Ok so just to set things up heres my vital stats.

Age: 16
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 116-118 pounds
Current Workout: Treadmill/Road 2 miles, Weights Every other day (upper body and lower body on same days)
Diet: I have started to completly cut out some things like soda, fried foods, but I dont want to stunt my growth as i am still young
Goal: To get up to around 125 before going into boxing at a gym, I want to do this in a healthy manor, without supplements if possible

I plan on joining a boxing gym later this year hopefully in the winter. I live in Hawaii so I can do roadwork year round, and im purchasing a heavy bag and speed bag soon. I'm just looking for some advice on how to get stronger or put on some more weight before starting boxing. Im fit, but pretty skinny admitedly. Need advice on a diet, workout, or anything you guys can think of. Thanks to anyone who helps, if you need more information let me know.

If you want to gain weight, eat more than you do now and weight train which you are. So over time, you'll gain the weight.

You are 5'8'' 116-118. Hah...that is very small. I assume you want to gain some weight, yeah?

My best advice is to eat and eat well. You are not going to gain any weight eating healthy...sorry to say. You might get stronger but you aint gonna get bigger. Eat well and hit the gym every other day. Max out on squats/deadlifts twice a week and do upperbody workouts on monday...lower body on tuesday and so on..

DO the pyramid. In the workout start at low weight, work your way up minimizing the reps but adding the weight and once you reach the 5th set you should be at your max and then move down again. PM me for more details.

Pyramid's no good. Why go heavy on the last set while using easy weight on the beginning sets? Straight sets are best for growth and strength. 5x5, 3x10, 6x3, etc. with consistent weight are good and once you get all reps, you add weight. It might not look good on paper, but it works.

LOL. If you think you're gonna get results like that, go for it. I laugh at you for doing that.

Honestly...straight sets. LMAO.

LOL. If you think you're gonna get results like that, go for it. I laugh at you for doing that.

Honestly...straight sets. LMAO.I really hope that's sarcasm. Why do you not go with straight sets?

Why do:

135x12
155x10
185x8
255x6

When you could do:

225x5
225x5
225x5
225x5

Then add weight the next week.

Lol. Your way makes no sense. You are seeing no progress doing what you are doing. You aren't gaining any strength.

Honestly, who told you that method? Did you read that shit?

I'm telling you; I've done this routie last year for the off-season football team and in 4-6 months, most players gained anywhere between 30-70 lbs. of muscle with a little increased bodyfat. I myself gained 40 lbs. and my bodyfat increased only by 2%.

Going out on something like 5x5 is way mroe beneficial than doing 3-4 easy "sets" then going to max only once. Doig straight sets also maxes on the last set but the weight is constant.

Who the hell said I was doing 3-4 sets. WHen I do an upperbody/lowerbody workout using the large muscles in my lower or upper body (whichever one it is) i always max at 7 sets.

Who the hell said I was doing 3-4 sets. WHen I do an upperbody/lowerbody workout using the large muscles in my lower or upper body (whichever one it is) i always max at 7 sets.Can you give me an example? And say in each set say how many reps you do and how many reps are failure if you went to max on that weight.

Example...squat. If I was a football running back I would do this. Not sure about what his max/strength level is.

This is the pyramid...all while adding weight the entire time. Keep in mind you need to know your limits and proper technique or you will injure yourself. IN other words, test yourself first.

1 set of 10 (where he does 9 and 10 comfortably but not too comfortably)
1 set of 8 (where 7 and 8 are not too comfortable)
1 set of 6 ....u know the rest..
1 set of 4 ....
1 set of 2 ....
1 set of 4 ....
1 set of 6 ....

Ok, so each rep is 1-3 reps shy of failure?

If you do the first set of 6 with 315 lbs. and the last 2 is hard. By the last set, there's no way you can increase weight AND do 6 reps.

A better way using 315 lbs.

315x6 (max being 11-12)
315x6 (max being 10-11)
315x6 (max being 9-10)
315x6 (max being 8-9)
315x6 (max being 6-7)
315x5 MAX (next week you go for 6 reps)

lol it seems that there is a battle between methods now.

Ok, so each rep is 1-3 reps shy of failure?

If you do the first set of 6 with 315 lbs. and the last 2 is hard. By the last set, there's no way you can increase weight AND do 6 reps.

A better way using 315 lbs.

315x6 (max being 11-12)
315x6 (max being 10-11)
315x6 (max being 9-10)
315x6 (max being 8-9)
315x6 (max being 6-7)
315x5 MAX (next week you go for 6 reps)

Oh my ****ing god. How are you gaining strength? All you're doing is lessoning the reps. I think that workout you just posted is for aesthetics..not for actual strength.

It's not really a battle. There's just no reasoning in doing pyramid sets except when warming up.

Oh my ****ing god. How are you gaining strength? All you're doing is lessoning the reps. I think that workout you just posted is for aesthetics..not for actual strength.Do a 5x5 routine for 2 months and I'll gaurantee you'll increase your squat by ATLEAST 30 lbs.

he cant be that skinny im 5 6" 112 and i still got at least 5-10pounds i can lose

he cant be that skinny im 5 6" 112 and i still got at least 5-10pounds i can loseDam. Something's wrong there :p Are you sure you don't need to gain muscle? Because there's a point where loseing fat won't help.

i've actually always been kind of skinny but since starting to work out im definatly getting bigger and heavier which i like.

I really hope someone knowledgable like PunchDrunk can come in this thread to clear up that doing straight sets is better.

Pyramid training is dumb. Way too many reps, and by the time you get to the actual heavy sets, you'll be too tired to actually lift as heavy as you could with proper warmup, and low rep sets.
In the pyramid smokin' proposes, you only get ONE set that is actually heavy, the middle one. The rest is just jerking off... how do you propose to gain strength, wasting your time doing 12 rep, 10 rep, and 8 rep sets WAY below your max?? That's not gonna gain you strength, it'll tire you out for the ACTUAL heavy sets, so you'll perform worse on those than you actually could.

No one who knows anything about strength training for athletes would recommend pyramid training.

Keep it short, simple and effective.

PunchDrunk is right. The only pyramid-type workout that does ANY good is the inverted pyramid, where you warm up, then start heavy and increase reps as you decrease weight. However, that type of workout is ONLY good on a cycle of about 4 weeks. Stay away from pyramids unless you are interested in increasing your one-rep max.

For a boxer who doesn't want to add bodyweight (and NO boxer should want to do that, unless there's a million dollar payday at a higher weight. None of you guys have that luxury problem :P), too many reps is not adviseable. Stay at 25 reps or less, all actual work sets included. The heavier you go, the less reps you need. 5x5 (25), 6x4 (24), 6x3, 4x3 even 3x3 and singles are good.
Another thing about excessive workload, is that you'll require more rest, meaning that the rest of your training can suffer for it. A boxer doesn't want that!

Thank you PunchDrunk. I knew I wasn't wrong :p...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PunchDrunk again.