View Full Version : If Islam is such a peace-loving culture...
GhosT^x0 11-25-2002, 01:50 PM .... then why am I only hearing about these ****s in reports of suicide bombings & women beating. I mean, ****. These people expect to be treated like equals and like humans and they want the USA to support them and not be mean to them, then they go and pull **** like this.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20021122_343.html#photocap
The reasoning behind this can't possibly be anything less than absurd. Here's to GhosT^x0 being glad he wasn't born muslim.
Waylander 11-25-2002, 01:53 PM Close off our borders and lets fix our problems I say. We can worry about the rest of the world when we have achieved as close to a utopia as humans can get.
zioxoiz 11-25-2002, 01:54 PM fighting and rioting over a news paper article, almost as dumb as rioting over Sporting events.... oh wait...
In all seriousness, yeah i know if i see some comment about Miss World marrying some muslim dood, i know that makes me want to go out and kill a ton of people, ****ing morons.
GhosT^x0 11-25-2002, 01:57 PM Islam angers GhosT^x0.
People who feign empathy with Islam to look open-minded, or up on current events, piss me off too. It's like this one ******* the other day who was sitting here in all honesty trying to tell me that the Muslim people are peaceful, and that their religion is based on peace.... meanwhile, their same religion is telling them not to beat off, not to honor women, not to have any kinda fun whatsoever, that they'll be rewarded for killing themselves as long as they're screaming something to Allah while they do it, and a whole slew of other ****... and on top of all that, as peaceful as they're supposed to be, they've been fighting each other for hundreds of years, over stupid **** like this.
Grrrr.
GhosT^x0 11-25-2002, 01:58 PM Oops.
All religions are a piece of **** though, take Catholic religion, they forbid priest and nuns to have intercourse or to have lust full thoughts, but at the same time is goes against all that is right and natural. When the discovery of the new world the Christian/Catholic religion also managed to caused severe pain to those that did not think like them... take Santeria for example, that is African religions (GODS) transformed to catholic images so they would not be beaten for praying to other Gods.
The concept of all religions are the same, be good, kind, thoughtful, mindfull, peace, not war...but when crazy people start to lead and power becomes an issue it all goes down hill. What men has created can not be perfect...there for religion isn't either.
zioxoiz 11-25-2002, 02:11 PM praise the devil, you dont hear about those satanist getting into riots do you!
Purity 11-25-2002, 02:17 PM islam is the newest of all major world religions.
history has shown us that all monotheistic (i think that's the word) religions tend to have very zealous, confused, and hostile followers in the first 1,000 or so years.
these knuckleheads will mellow out in a few 100 years probably
handjobs4dollars 11-25-2002, 02:29 PM Almost all religion has had times when, it was based on beating the **** out of others. So saying that one reliogion is evil, is pointless.
realkaps 11-25-2002, 02:33 PM I think I read somewhere that there are more Muslims than any other religion....
Aaron Bizarre 11-25-2002, 02:52 PM religion is dying out slowly over the years. less people go to church as time goes by and put more faith in science. You can pray to God but its going to be a doctor taht helps your child through Cancer. Then again science has furthered weapons and put them in the hands of religious fanatics of all kinds and has taken credit for such monstrous devices as the A-Bomb,Mustard and phosphorus gas weapons and various other examples of progress that lead to shame.
guess it is like how the old saying goes, you take your good with your bad.
handjobs4dollars 11-25-2002, 03:02 PM Their is no such thing as an evil religion, just people who take it too far.
ParazIT 11-25-2002, 03:06 PM this thread sucks
All religions are retarded, not just Islam - although they try their hardest to sink below the rest.
Piedra 11-25-2002, 08:20 PM Islam is the most stupid religion of all but I would like to have peace in this ****ty world so **** anyone that uses a turbant
Bad Boy USA 11-25-2002, 08:29 PM [quote:e3214ac07e="gman"]Almost all religion has had times when, it was based on beating the **** out of others. So saying that one reliogion is evil, is pointless.[/quote:e3214ac07e]
There is a point. It's that Islam hasn't made the progressive changes like other modern religions to become contemporary and applicable to current times. Sure, there were Christian crusades, Jewish crusades, but the only major religion today that is still stuck in caveman mode is Islam.
A lot of people will say, "Militant Islam" and Islam are not the same. But when has there EVER been a major Islamic religious leader come out and say flat out... the people of al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah, etc etc and all their sympathizers are not Muslims and are going to hell? Never! Because they are all on the same side.
seldomTap 11-25-2002, 10:08 PM I would say that Islam hasn't developed like a majority of other religions due to the areas it is most prevalent being almost 3rd world areas, and the devotion these people have to it...
Personally, I trust no one normally anyways, so now anyone who resembles a middle eastern person is suspect number 1 in my eyes
Bumble Bee Tuna 11-26-2002, 02:28 AM One can even argue that science is a religion itself, just uses different criteria and methods.
Aaron Bizarre 11-26-2002, 08:55 AM [quote:c36ec3ef55]A lot of people will say, "Militant Islam" and Islam are not the same. But when has there EVER been a major Islamic religious leader come out and say flat out... the people of al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah, etc etc and all their sympathizers are not Muslims and are going to hell? Never! Because they are all on the same side.[/quote:c36ec3ef55]
or maybe they dont have the privelidge of freedom of speech cause they are under tyranical leadership. The government wont speak out cause its better to have terrorists on your side then systematically tearing your regime apart.
Im sure the US had the blood thirsty religious fanatics of Al-Queda in mind when the CIA trained them to fight the russians only to have it backfire in our face. The sad part is the US created this monster and now they cant control it.
so now you get:
"Death to USA and Israel" from the Muslim militant side directed at the US and Israeli civilian populace.
and
"Bomb Iraq and the rest of those turban wearing ****s" from the US and Israli populace knowing very well that some of these bombings will be killing innocent lives.
in the same boat, have to try and make peace or it will never stop.
Fallout 11-26-2002, 10:53 AM Humans are just ****ed up. We kill beat and rape each other in the name of god.
Who dumb is that? Do you think God really wants all these things carried out in his name?
academiachuteboxe 11-26-2002, 10:58 AM Its because they are all crazy diaper heads and they are in a cult. If this offends you - **** off.
[quote:7560150479="academiachuteboxe"]Its because they are all crazy diaper heads and they are in a cult. If this offends you - **** off.[/quote:7560150479]
but what about all the massacres the Christian religion have committed over the years? KKK members are also Christians, and they have committed atrocities…
Aaron Bizarre 11-26-2002, 11:20 AM liek the reverand Jim Jones and the waco cult. whenever you bring these up people say "they are just crazy, they are not really living the word of God"
when you get a Muslim Religious fanatic they all MUST DIE!!!!! never the possibility that they maybe the bad apple in the bunch. They instantly become representatives for the religion they front for thier homicide.
Bad Boy USA 11-27-2002, 03:00 AM [quote:bf39ee6319="Kato"][quote:bf39ee6319="academiachuteboxe"]Its because they are all crazy diaper heads and they are in a cult. If this offends you - **** off.[/quote:bf39ee6319]
but what about all the massacres the Christian religion have committed over the years? KKK members are also Christians, and they have committed atrocities…[/quote:bf39ee6319]
Yeah, but atleast Christian leaders like the Pope have apologized and flat out said that they were wrong. Never hear a Islamic Mullah say that about people who kill in the name of their religion.
pål johnsen 11-27-2002, 03:05 AM [quote:ece3998ce7="ParazIT"]this thread sucks[/quote:ece3998ce7]
we agree all the time, but not now!! :?
It's not about the religon. People just dont like to belly up to the responsibility of their own actions, so they find a scape goat. These people have found their religon to blame, which is funny since it's teachings are so opposite compared to what their actions are. But instead of having to say, "We are pissed at the US" they say, "Allah is bringing vengence upon you." Totally takes the blame off of them, in their own eyes at least.
You are going to find radicals in everything. Not only religon. Take enviromentalists for example. Industrialists. Gothics. Anything that can be taken too far, someone will do it. It's these people who are most remembered, and therefore remembered as whatever they associated themselves with.
[quote:823c43eb60="Bad Boy USA"][quote:823c43eb60="Kato"][quote:823c43eb60="academiachuteboxe"]Its because they are all crazy diaper heads and they are in a cult. If this offends you - **** off.[/quote:823c43eb60]
but what about all the massacres the Christian religion have committed over the years? KKK members are also Christians, and they have committed atrocities…[/quote:823c43eb60]
Yeah, but atleast Christian leaders like the Pope have apologized and flat out said that they were wrong. Never hear a Islamic Mullah say that about people who kill in the name of their religion.[/quote:823c43eb60]
yeah well... we could go on forever about the the Catholic Church and keeping their molestations a secret for years upon years. The only reason why there is such an apology its because it has become a public issue, it has gotten out of their grasp.
Fact is all religions suck ass because they have been fit to benefit others, to gain power, to control. The concept behing religions it good and if you read, they are all the same. John Lennon sang imagine, and that was pretty too.
pål johnsen 11-27-2002, 12:49 PM here is what i think! it all sucks! if u believe in satan,god,allah or what ever!! its all stupid! and in this day and age its sick that people still do! i can understand why like 500 years ago but hey! humans have allways been like this! if there is something we dont understand or dont have the solution to, we make some **** up and believe in that!
dumb.
(but thats just me!!)
LukeDothSucketh 11-27-2002, 03:42 PM People do bad things when they come from bad places. The most concentrated areas with Muslims in them are in **** holes like the midle east and Africa. People overseas sympathize with them because they share things in common. I just say nuke Iraq and see what happens.
[quote:9c1eea5df4="LukeDothSucketh"]People do bad things when they come from bad places. The most concentrated areas with Muslims in them are in **** holes like the midle east and Africa. People overseas sympathize with them because they share things in common. I just say nuke Iraq and see what happens.[/quote:9c1eea5df4]
what about all the bad places in the US? all the **** holes here in the USA... should we nook them too? because we do have to really ****ed up individuals too, so... is that an option too?
GhosT^x0 11-27-2002, 04:07 PM The day some ****head with a copy of the Quoran (or whatever that ****ed up Allah book is called) decided he was mad at America is the day hundreds of years of middle-eastern counter culture got ****canned.
Ya see, as a world power, America has a huge responsibility to maintain composure, promote peace and advocate our spot as a defining & prominent presence among the pantheon of the world's nations. People see an attack on America, and suddenly, every newspaper in the world is printing stories on it. How we respond sets the tone for the way the world continues to function, whether other countries want to deny it or not. No matter how much other nations despise, envy, hate, disapprove of or condemn America, there is no denying that we represent one side of the axis upon which this world turns, based on our role today. Our economy, our technology, our military... we are mighty as a people, and this is a huge part of why other nations hate us.
Islam, for example, is an oxymoron within itself... there is no such thing as a nation of Islam, yet they constantly refer to this as some type of overseeing entity in their actions and their ways. Bad Boy is right... they are all on one side, and the differentiation between radical Islam and non-radical Muslims is consistently blurred by empathetic world powers who claim no responsibility for the actions of their own people. The examples we set are set in direct contrast to the messages relayed by their actions, and because of this, those local to the conflict find it easier to strongly stand against one side. Which side? Depends really on where ya live.
The day I see "suicide bomb" or "terrorist" under the definition of "peace", I'll believe that Islam is more than a ****ed-up preconception of how some dude behind the counter at 7-11 wants to see the world work. That may be harsh... but so was watching hundreds of our fathers, mothers, brothers an sisters crushed beneath 2 collapsing buildings because one caveman sandcrab **** had a bad turbin day.
Piedra 11-27-2002, 05:05 PM Im sick and tired of these islamic extremists next time I see one one with a turbant its going to be a dead man haha.
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