View Full Version : Tszyu Vs Mitchell II


theironone
10-07-2004, 11:26 AM
What do you guys think will be the outcome.
I think Mitch has a very good chance to win, purely on his activity level compared to Kostya's.
In the 1st fight T manhandled him alot and wore him out but I thought the fight was close til Mitch's knee went and could of gone either way even though I thought T was going to win, I think mitch will pull this out with a split dec, just be slightly too slick and fresh for an older oft-injured Tszyu.

LuKahnLi
10-07-2004, 12:01 PM
I think I will still go with Tszyu. I dunno, just got a feeling.

NichtGeflechten
10-07-2004, 12:17 PM
If Kostya wins he should retire immediately........if he loses he should retire immediately!

Hurlex
10-07-2004, 12:23 PM
KT i think will give everyone a surprise us with a ko...i think he'll get shambra around the 7-9

hasnt shambra been ko'ed in the past?

Klitschko=chicken
10-07-2004, 01:24 PM
This will be a good win for Mitchell but noone should get excited because Tsyzu has been so inactive latley.

theironone
10-07-2004, 01:26 PM
KT i think will give everyone a surprise us with a ko...i think he'll get shambra around the 7-9

hasnt shambra been ko'ed in the past?

Yes he has ltko 8 and ltko 9 to I believe stevie johnston and leavander ??? sorry guys the name escapes me and i can't be bothered to look it up at boxrec ;)

theironone
10-07-2004, 01:29 PM
Couldn't help myself Stevie in 8 and Leavander Johnson in 9 at lightweight

theironone
10-07-2004, 01:30 PM
If Kostya wins he should retire immediately........if he loses he should retire immediately!
Couldn't agree more but if it's another close call and sharmba gets the nod it could be rubber match time

neils7147933
10-07-2004, 01:33 PM
I maintained that Mitchell wins this one easily for a long time. My argument was that Tszyu has been inactive so long and Mitchell has fought good pros in the meantime.

Then Trinidad came back; I had Mayorga for the same reason.

So I guess Tszyu could look like he hasn't missed a beat. We'll just have to see a few weeks from now.

Looks like Johnny Tapia on the televised undercard; no opponent named yet.

mic573
10-07-2004, 02:18 PM
I think Mitchell will pull this one out. Kostya pulling out several times because of injuries just doesn't look good for him. It kind of tells me he's starting to breakdown. Tszyu is already a slow starter and with his inactivity it could make him start even slower putting Mitchell way a head on points. I say Mitchell about a close 8 to 4 in rounds maybe closer.

PRboxingfan
10-07-2004, 02:24 PM
I maintained that Mitchell wins this one easily for a long time. My argument was that Tszyu has been inactive so long and Mitchell has fought good pros in the meantime.

Then Trinidad came back; I had Mayorga for the same reason.

So I guess Tszyu could look like he hasn't missed a beat. We'll just have to see a few weeks from now.

Looks like Johnny Tapia on the televised undercard; no opponent named yet.

My thoughts, exactly. I still have Mitchell, tho, because I felt he was winning the first fight and, were it not for the knee injury, would've won. I don't think KT's inactivity level will help him, although, like Tito, it might not hurt him.

SM by UD.

jabsRstiff
10-07-2004, 02:31 PM
How Trinidad came back has no bearing on how Tszyu would handle the layoff.

Tszyu is coming back against a very slick, quick left hander.
That's a tall order. That's the kind of guy who you need time to figure out.

scap
10-07-2004, 03:23 PM
my predictions mean **** because I can't pick a fight to save my ass but here goes...

KT will beat up Sharmba and stop him around the 10 or 11th. Mitchel is a very tough guy to fight, hes so damn shifty but I have to look back on their first fight. It was very close however it was only close from a judging standpoint KT was killing him in there. I know a lot of people say he was throwing Mitchel down but I have watched that fight alot, Mitchel conveniently threw himself down alot of times, it just looked like Tszyu was the bad guy. I think a fighter at some point during a fight knows wheather or not he can 1)keep up a certain pace and 2)is going to get ko'd. In the first fight I understand the knee was a problem for Mitchel but I have no doubt in my mind after watching that fight over and over and over that Sharmba knew he could not keep up with the torrid pace that KT had set and that the end was coming, he could either try and gut it out and take a serious beating or call it quits on account of the knee. Yeah his knee was probably not 100% but it got alot worse when KT stepped in the ring, KT will win, but then again my recent track record says that it looks good for a shifty sharmba mtichel, can't wait for this one!

whdempsey
10-07-2004, 04:15 PM
Tzyu is gonna win this by knockout. Certainly, I have to agree that his layoff does give me pause, but apparently he's been weight training like a madman. Keep in mind that before his inactivity he was an incredibly strong 140 pounder, and I have to say that he's gonna manhandle Sharmba when they get in close, just like the first fight. Eventually, all that wear and tear on Mitchell's body (don't forget this guy is no younger than Tzyu) will force him to take the count. The kind of pressure Tzyu exerts is exactly what is needed to beat Mitchell.

abdiel2k3
10-07-2004, 04:24 PM
nope sorry but tszyus time of reckoning is upon us
its time for tszyu to pay for what he did to chavez
his time ha come
and shamba is gonna rip him apart

whdempsey
10-07-2004, 05:03 PM
nope sorry but tszyus time of reckoning is upon us
its time for tszyu to pay for what he did to chavez
his time ha come
and shamba is gonna rip him apart

Ah, yes. The time has come for Mitchell to defend his proud Mexican heritage.

techn9ne
10-07-2004, 05:05 PM
i am going to be there ringside

you guys will see me be the first to jump up when Tszyu KO's mitchell!

ZOO is the truth!

Sir_Jose
10-07-2004, 06:17 PM
What do you guys think will be the outcome.
I think Mitch has a very good chance to win, purely on his activity level compared to Kostya's.
In the 1st fight T manhandled him alot and wore him out but I thought the fight was close til Mitch's knee went and could of gone either way even though I thought T was going to win, I think mitch will pull this out with a split dec, just be slightly too slick and fresh for an older oft-injured Tszyu.


Im going for Tszyu in this fight, but I have a feeling that Mitchell will come out on top. Tszyu has just been off way to long.

make no mistake about it Prime Tszyu beats Prime Mitchell everday, but this aint Prime Tszyu.

Yarmez
10-07-2004, 06:21 PM
I think Kostya Is Going to win, I have a sneeky feeling ,I Live In Australia, and I have been lucky enough to see the Trainign of Tszyu, and man he looks better then ever, he is fully ripped, fit is quick, and he is sparring with great fighters like lovemore n'dou, who alot of people thought beat mitchell a while ago, I think Mitchell isn't good enough, he punches like a fairy as well.

I go Tszyu TKO in 12

MetalVomit
10-07-2004, 06:37 PM
I think Kostya Is Going to win, I have a sneeky feeling ,I Live In Australia, and I have been lucky enough to see the Trainign of Tszyu, and man he looks better then ever, he is fully ripped, fit is quick, and he is sparring with great fighters like lovemore n'dou, who alot of people thought beat mitchell a while ago, I think Mitchell isn't good enough, he punches like a fairy as well.

I go Tszyu TKO in 12


I like Tszyu and Mitchell, Kostya is a machine, but machines get rusty when they arent being used enough

Yarmez
10-07-2004, 06:45 PM
If trinidad is any indication, that's not the case with all fighters, but if tyson is any indication, you could be right.

But i still go with tszyu.

MetalVomit
10-07-2004, 08:54 PM
If trinidad is any indication, that's not the case with all fighters, but if tyson is any indication, you could be right.

But i still go with tszyu.


right, but trinidad fought a fighter made for him, someone who will just stand there and take it in the face. no way Tito would land 60% of his shots against a fighter that actually moves. tito was exposed by Oscar and Bernard. I still love tito though, dont think im bashin him

doomeddisciple
10-07-2004, 11:19 PM
Does anyone here not realise that MItchell has over 50 pro fights, and he's only had 6 since loosing to KT.

Now everyone's going on about activity and Tszyu being injured - and I'm not saying it will be easy - But Tszyu has already fought Mitchell - He knows what to expect - He knows how hard he hits and has seen enough of him latley to know that

A) Kostya hits a hell of a lot harder and more accurately than Lovemore N'Dou

B) Yes, KT is getting on a bit, but for as much as KT could get old in the ring - Mitchell is NO spring chicken.

C) KY has a huge psycological advantage - Everytime I see Tszyu Vs Mitchell I, I think - Mitchells corner must have used a crow bar to get Sharmba out of his dressing room - He looks like he's about to throw up with fear.

I'm taking Tszyu as I'm a fan and I think he's just plain better than Mitchell -which is no disrespect to Sharmba, he's a top class pro, but Tszyu will win.

WillieW
10-08-2004, 05:57 AM
The big question is inactivity. KT has been out for 2 years and Mitchell has been very active compared to most active fighters.

Pros for Mitchell: No stranger to the ring, I think he has had 6 fights in the last 2 years(guessing can't be bothered to look it up). Slick punch and clinch style, perfect to neutralize a hard puncher.

Cons for Mitchell: No power. Went five years without a stoppage, there isn't anything there to keep KT at bay. Has been stopped twice, not sure if this will factor since it was early in his career; but it should be noted. He has been active, but against less than steller opposition...sometimes guys get used to fighting at the same level, this could affect his performance.

Pros for KT: Power! That right hand is rested and should be ready to go, power is the last thing to go. Skill-wise KT has it; very patient and can adjust during a fight. While he has been inactive, he hasen't let himself go; he always looks like he is close to his fight weight, never out of shape. He may have some ring rust, but he dosen't have any ring damage.

Cons for KT: Ring rust is the main factor, he will have some...its all a matter of how he compensates. Slow starter, will he let too many rounds go? Mentality, does he still have the desire to fight?...I think he does.



There it is. I think KT will take it on points, but I say that with about a 75% surety.

guru
10-08-2004, 08:57 AM
mitchell has over 50 fights, but has beaten one top jr welterweight or even a decent one for that matter.....

mic573
10-08-2004, 10:13 AM
I think Tszyu is just going to give away too many early rounds. He will come on late but it would be too late. Mitchell by close decision.

urdaddyinAZ
10-08-2004, 03:19 PM
Just got my tickets......and this is my first "big fight" live. I've been a huge KT fan for years and I hope he still carries alot of the skills with him that he had before the injury. My heart says KT.....brain says Sharmba. I do feel confident about one thing....if it goes to the cards I think Mitchell wins. I think Kostya needs to knock him out, which is a very very distinct possibility.

Hurlex
10-08-2004, 04:18 PM
mitchell , mexican? what the hell..where he from..i thought he was black

techn9ne
10-08-2004, 04:25 PM
look its a newbie!

ebaum's world was down so i was unable to provide the image that goes with that:(

whdempsey
10-08-2004, 08:34 PM
mitchell , mexican? what the hell..where he from..i thought he was black
Ha, nah man, Mitchell's black. I was making fun of another poster who said Tzyu was gonna get piad back for beating a Mexican legend. My point was that what Kostya did to an old JC Superstar has no bearing on what happens November sixth.

Hurlex
10-08-2004, 08:46 PM
oh lol..i was about 2say thanks for making that clear...i knew i wasnt high or anything

El Jesus
10-08-2004, 09:35 PM
I maintained that Mitchell wins this one easily for a long time. My argument was that Tszyu has been inactive so long and Mitchell has fought good pros in the meantime.

Then Trinidad came back; I had Mayorga for the same reason.

So I guess Tszyu could look like he hasn't missed a beat. We'll just have to see a few weeks from now.

Looks like Johnny Tapia on the televised undercard; no opponent named yet.



i dont understand how you can rate someone thats been active ove r someone who has been active in the case of mayorga/trinidad.

mayorga looked bad in his last 2 fights, and not only that, he had to move up a little to fight trinidad and had never fought at 160. Im wondering how you could have possibly picked mayorga based on that desicion that tito had been "inactive".

chubb5000
05-03-2005, 10:57 AM
Haaaaaa, suck my balls, Australians all told ya tszyu crush sharmba. TSZYU CREW MOFOS!!! How did sharmba except to win, he was wearing a skirt, a crap skirt. ohhh man just kidding guys. Kostya just outboxed him, sharmba danced too much, rats tail forever. Twirlers never

Journeyman
05-03-2005, 03:42 PM
i cant believe people are still talking about this fight...Tszyu showed his class in the post fight interview.