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NexBesThang
08-02-2006, 10:21 PM
Is it possible to get a physique like Roy Jones off of just calisthenics and what would a nutrition plan be. I eat a good breakfast and a small lunch. When I get home from school I do some push ups, chin ups, crunches and then I go out and run. My goal is to get in good condition by February which is when I'll start going to a boxing gym. If anyone has any sugggestions on whether I should shadowbox along with that and an order of what to do those exercises in with my schedule it would be greatly appreciated.

NJFighter91
08-02-2006, 11:09 PM
Is it possible to get a physique like Roy Jones off of just calisthenics and what would a nutrition plan be. I eat a good breakfast and a small lunch. When I get home from school I do some push ups, chin ups, crunches and then I go out and run. My goal is to get in good condition by February which is when I'll start going to a boxing gym. If anyone has any sugggestions on whether I should shadowbox along with that and an order of what to do those exercises in with my schedule it would be greatly appreciated.Depends on your genetics. Someone naturally skinny won't gain much on calisthenics in terms of thick muscle. A naturally fatter person would.

But the thing is, I used to worry lots about my calisthenics and stuff but realized that I'm training for function and my physique doesn't come to mind much. If I'm going to eat and workout to look better, I would bodybuild, but I'm not.

I say just do your calisthenics and running but don't get anal about them. Those are supplementary work to your real boxing work (sparring at best, bagwork, etc.) And just eat healthy foods.

Oatmeal
Potatoes
Wheat Bread
Bananas
Tuna Fish
Lean Beed
Steak
Whey
Milk
Olive Oil

There's TONS of mroe healthy foods out there but that's mainly what I eat.

Ringo
08-02-2006, 11:16 PM
NJFighter is totally right on this one. What you can gain from any type of workout is based upon genetics and how you go about performing the exercise. Calisthenics alone are pretty much aerobic in nature, not good for muscle size and strength increase, just good for stamina and prevention of strength degregation. Good list of healthy foods, too. Also, a lot of "weight gain" and such depends on WHEN you eat. Protein and sugar after exercise, carbs before bed and when you wake up. Thats if you want to bulk, I mean.

NJFighter91
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Yeah, post-workout is my favorite meal because of the sugars. When I can't get a fruit or something, I just buy a pack of Skittles....or two :D

warriorsingh84'
08-03-2006, 12:27 AM
what if your trying to lose weight? should you still have the sugars and protein after a workout, I thought you were supposed to eat a medium sized carb meal with protein??

NJFighter91
08-03-2006, 12:32 AM
what if your trying to lose weight? should you still have the sugars and protein after a workout, I thought you were supposed to eat a medium sized carb meal with protein??In my experience, the only difference between losing weight and gaining weight is the calories. More calories than metabolism, you gain weight and less calories than metabolism, you lose weight. That's simplified. You can get more complicated but there's no need for boxing IMO.

platinummatt
08-03-2006, 08:22 AM
I dont know how people can say about how bodyweight exercises only do certain things. Whats different from a pushup to a bench press of the same weight?

Ringo
08-03-2006, 09:51 AM
Weight loss deals with calories and carbs. Yes, you should still have the sugar and protein after a workout for the purposes of muscle building. But, eliminate the carbs before bed and decrease the overall amount you eat during the day. Remember, about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is a good muscle building foundation.
The difference between a pushup and a bench press of equal weight is balance. The ground isn't shaky or unstable. Doing a bench press, areas of your arms that are involved in clenching your hand, your stabilizer muscles, and parts of your lower back/legs are often incorporated. If you do a pushup correctly, the exercise is much more isolated to the outer chest/tricepts/shoulders.

NJFighter91
08-03-2006, 01:37 PM
I dont know how people can say about how bodyweight exercises only do certain things. Whats different from a pushup to a bench press of the same weight?In general bodyweight exercises are better. They work the whole body as a unit because it stabilizes the whole body. Weights may not slow you down but I think that bodyweight exercises are far superior especially with all the variations that can be done.

My ultimate goal is to do 10 planche pushups which will obviously take years of practice and training ;)

This is how hard a planche pushup is...Doing a bodyweight bench press on a stability ball with you're feet up. (Parallel to the floor)

Smokin'
08-03-2006, 01:48 PM
NJFighter, tell us how your training has been going? Have you been improving your conditioning and in turn your boxing has improved?

NJFighter91
08-03-2006, 03:16 PM
NJFighter, tell us how your training has been going? Have you been improving your conditioning and in turn your boxing has improved?LOL, I thought you might ask about this. The thing with plyometrics is...is that I don't feel the targeted muscle. When I do clap pushups, I don't feel it in my chest, only in my arms.

With what I'm doing now, I've gained strength and endurance. I've tried to keep my weight steady or lose some off and my body can now support more weight because of the strength.

While sparring, I feel more flexible and my muscles don't get tired as fast.

The plyometrics did give me faster hands but I became more stiff and not as flexible.

yrrej
08-03-2006, 05:16 PM
It's impossible to get a physique like Roy Jones because there is only 1 Roy Jones.....

NexBesThang
08-03-2006, 05:49 PM
Thats true. Alright ya'll, I appreciate everything. Thanks

NexBesThang
08-03-2006, 05:54 PM
One more thing, if I do calisthenics and then my joggin after school, would I eat a meal with carbs and protein?

NexBesThang
08-03-2006, 06:05 PM
what is the most effective way to do a pull up, such as grip and length of hands?

Smokin'
08-03-2006, 06:16 PM
LOL, I thought you might ask about this. The thing with plyometrics is...is that I don't feel the targeted muscle. When I do clap pushups, I don't feel it in my chest, only in my arms.

With what I'm doing now, I've gained strength and endurance. I've tried to keep my weight steady or lose some off and my body can now support more weight because of the strength.

While sparring, I feel more flexible and my muscles don't get tired as fast.

The plyometrics did give me faster hands but I became more stiff and not as flexible.

Well, what plyo's did you do? You are training incorrect if you become stiff and inflexible just because of plyo's, which i assume you're saying.

NJFighter91
08-04-2006, 01:44 AM
Well, what plyo's did you do? You are training incorrect if you become stiff and inflexible just because of plyo's, which i assume you're saying.I did Box Pushups, Clap Pushups, Squat Jumps, Depth Jumps, Hurdles.

Smokin'
08-04-2006, 01:46 AM
LOL, what about medicine ball training? You were training wrong, mufugggggga.

NJFighter91
08-04-2006, 01:48 AM
Well, I do medicine ball work at the boxing gym with the trainer and other fighters. What I posted it what I do myself at home.

Smokin'
08-04-2006, 01:49 AM
Iuno. You are pretty new to working out it seems. Medicine ball explosive movements are extremely effective and they sure as hell don't make you stiff. They are meant to increase core strength and improve flexibility.

NJFighter91
08-04-2006, 01:54 AM
Iuno. You are pretty new to working out it seems. Medicine ball explosive movements are extremely effective and they sure as hell don't make you stiff. They are meant to increase core strength and improve flexibility.No, not that new to working out. I know medicine balls and other explosive movements are supposed to be good, but I just don't respond well to them.