View Full Version : Who do you concider a legend in MMA?


realkaps
11-27-2002, 12:36 PM
Who do you guys think are legends of this sport and what makes them a legend??

Tanner Rhoden
11-27-2002, 12:46 PM
Royce Gracie - for starting it all
Ken Shamrock - helped get the sport where it is today
Rickson Gracie - for helping the sports popularity grow in Japan
Dan Severn - first wrestler to have great success in the UFC
Marco Ruas - first complete fighter
Don Frye - second complete fighter...solved the riddle of the guard
Maurice Smith - first striker to win a title in UFC
Bas Rutten - dominated pancrase for almost 4 years straight....and won the UFC title
Mark Coleman - winner of numerous UFC's and the winner of the Pride GP
Kazushi Sakuraba - first man to defeat a Gracie in MMA competition

Jay Pan ROKK
11-27-2002, 12:57 PM
1. Rickson Gracie, the first that went worldwide chaleging and winning fights.
2. Royce Gracie for 3 tournaments at the first UFCs.
3. Ken Shamrock
4. Marco Ruas, the first true MMArtist.
5. Marc Coleman the first GnP, a Master.
6. Frank Shamrock, he has everything.
7. Tank Abbot, the first bad guy.
8. The Great Sakuraba, The Gracies Hunter.
9. Inoki, the one that dare to start big MMA events in Japan.
10. Don Frye

Bzob
11-27-2002, 01:12 PM
I think it would have to go to Royce, With out his influence over ufc...It would have been.....well Ken Samrock wicking everyones ass

Mr. Beelzebub
11-27-2002, 01:13 PM
Royce Gracie - Do I need to say why?
MArco Ruas - The first complete fighter to showcase his skills in the UFC, he redefined the sport and set a trend to be followed.
Kazushi Sakuraba - Master of submission, constant innovator.

pl johnsen
11-27-2002, 01:18 PM
[quote:7b2318a106="TannerNoBjj"]Royce Gracie - for starting it all
Ken Shamrock - helped get the sport where it is today
Rickson Gracie - for helping the sports popularity grow in Japan
Dan Severn - first wrestler to have great success in the UFC
Marco Ruas - first complete fighter
Don Frye - second complete fighter...solved the riddle of the guard
Maurice Smith - first striker to win a title in UFC
Bas Rutten - dominated pancrase for almost 4 years straight....and won the UFC title
Mark Coleman - winner of numerous UFC's and the winner of the Pride GP
Kazushi Sakuraba - first man to defeat a Gracie in MMA competition[/quote:7b2318a106]

+ frank and maybe tank!

=)

realkaps
11-27-2002, 01:20 PM
[quote:df3b43445c="pl johnsen"][quote:df3b43445c="TannerNoBjj"]Royce Gracie - for starting it all
Ken Shamrock - helped get the sport where it is today
Rickson Gracie - for helping the sports popularity grow in Japan
Dan Severn - first wrestler to have great success in the UFC
Marco Ruas - first complete fighter
Don Frye - second complete fighter...solved the riddle of the guard
Maurice Smith - first striker to win a title in UFC
Bas Rutten - dominated pancrase for almost 4 years straight....and won the UFC title
Mark Coleman - winner of numerous UFC's and the winner of the Pride GP
Kazushi Sakuraba - first man to defeat a Gracie in MMA competition[/quote:df3b43445c]

+ frank and maybe tank!

=)[/quote:df3b43445c]

Agreed......

Tanner Rhoden
11-27-2002, 01:28 PM
I didn't add Frank or Tank because I don't really consider them legends. Tank didn't really do anything good for the sport. He was a fat, out of shape, beer drinking brawler. Frank wasn;t added cause he didn't do anything new for the sport. If you have Frank, you should also have Tito. Would you have Tito listed as Legend? I don't think so.

wondermut
11-27-2002, 01:41 PM
I agree with the tan man.

Jay Pan ROKK
11-27-2002, 01:44 PM
Hey Tanner, Tito and Frank are not just one person, they are very different two fighters, Frank fought in many organizations with all kinds of rules, while Tito only fought at UFC, plus Frank has a win over Tito.

realkaps
11-27-2002, 01:53 PM
Hmmm I didnt think about it like that, but I still see Frank as a legend.....

Tanner Rhoden
11-27-2002, 02:44 PM
When I think of a legend, I think of someone that changed the sport in some way. I don't see how Frank changed it.

Please don't get me wrong, I think Franks an outstanding fighter, one of the best, but he's not a legend in my eyes.

This is only my opinion by the way. No need to take it personal. If you think he's a legend, great.

realkaps
11-27-2002, 02:47 PM
I didnt take anything personal......

HockeyFighter
11-27-2002, 02:47 PM
My list. Most have been mentioned already so I won't provide reasons for them.
Ken Shamrock
Bas Rutten
Dan Severn
Don Frye
Royce Gracie
Oleg Taktarov - all heart, never gave up and took alot of punishment that kind of caught up with him later in his career, he deserves to be in with these other guys

Tanner Rhoden
11-27-2002, 03:18 PM
[quote:01e2339a85="kaps"]I didnt take anything personal......[/quote:01e2339a85]

I wasn't talking to you

Zen
11-27-2002, 06:24 PM
I'd say you guys have it covered pretty well, there's probably a bunch of Asian guys that we are missing, that were before our time.

Piedra
11-27-2002, 06:37 PM
from Brazil Marco Ruas,Royce Gracie, Ucraine non other than Igor and soon Fedor,From the USA Shamrock, Coleman and Severn.

realkaps
11-27-2002, 07:19 PM
[quote:2ba5e55f0e="TannerNoBjj"][quote:2ba5e55f0e="kaps"]I didnt take anything personal......[/quote:2ba5e55f0e]

I wasn't talking to you[/quote:2ba5e55f0e]

My bad, carry on......

Leather
11-27-2002, 07:45 PM
-Rickson and Royce Gracie....no words
-Don Frye: a complete atlete
-Frank Shamrock: I'n my opinion he's a MMAmaster
-Ruas: the essence of Valetudo
-Sakuraba: Gracie Hunter
-Guy Mezger: the elegance in fights
-Bas Rutten: an exemple of strong and discipline
-John Hess: the worst fighter in MMA history!!! (joke)

casp3r
11-27-2002, 08:38 PM
joe son = toughest balls in MMA
fred ettish = master of the fetal fighting

seldomTap
11-27-2002, 09:02 PM
[quote:f7b9100ddc="Snoop Dogg"]I'd say you guys have it covered pretty well, there's probably a bunch of Asian guys that we are missing, that were before our time.[/quote:f7b9100ddc]

Very good point...

I would say
Royce
Ken
Maurice Smith
Dan Severn
MArco Ruas
Bas
Rickson

momita
11-27-2002, 11:58 PM
I would have to agree on the choices, but I see MMA evolving, it is the young fighters who will improve and bring new challenges to this sport. The legends created it, but with each new generation, it will become even more exciting. And more accepted for being what it is, the greatest & most exciting combined sport ever. The young new fighters are improving the techniques that the legend makers started with. I wait for the day for MMA to be on weekly tv, like other sports. And each of the legends you all mentioned can be thanked for that!

realkaps
11-28-2002, 12:21 AM
Good post Flame Resistant......

pl johnsen
11-28-2002, 12:26 AM
omg! im so sorry! how could i forget my idol mr igor vov!!!

he is a ****ing legend! he took sak and kerr(2 times) oleg and gary(2 times)

and he has like 60-70 fights!

Jay Pan ROKK
11-28-2002, 07:36 AM
[quote:07f280acc7="kaps"][quote:07f280acc7="TannerNoBjj"][quote:07f280acc7="kaps"]I didnt take anything personal......[/quote:07f280acc7]

I wasn't talking to you[/quote:07f280acc7]

My bad, carry on......[/quote:07f280acc7]No problem here also, it is just a nice conversation intead of one side opinion.

realkaps
11-28-2002, 07:38 AM
Agreed.....

Jay Pan ROKK
11-29-2002, 07:42 AM
Me thinks ... no objective answer up to know ...

What is a Legend? What makes one fighter a Legend?

momita
11-29-2002, 05:31 PM
Jay Pan ROKK- What is a Legend? What makes one fighter a Legend?

Well, putting it that way. A legend is someone "[b:2fc0908d02]everyone[/b:2fc0908d02]" knows, world wide. Like Bruce Lee. What makes that legend is what he is known for. But since we are talking MMA, I'm thinking so far, Tito will be remembered because he is [b:2fc0908d02]the[/b:2fc0908d02] bad boy of cagefighting, and whoever does his publicity gets him out there, more than some of the other fighters. But before even he is known worldwide, big things will have to happen, more coverage to the ordinary public, know what I mean? The media will have to stop looking at [b:2fc0908d02]this[/b:2fc0908d02] sport as "that underground chicken fighting stuff". So, to be a true legend, and [b:2fc0908d02]not just to those who love MMA[/b:2fc0908d02], we have to find a way to get this more recognized, [b:2fc0908d02]EVERYWHERE[/b:2fc0908d02].

badguy
11-29-2002, 05:54 PM
[quote:5013e5d41b="TannerNoBjj"]Royce Gracie - for starting it all
Ken Shamrock - helped get the sport where it is today
Rickson Gracie - for helping the sports popularity grow in Japan
Dan Severn - first wrestler to have great success in the UFC
Marco Ruas - first complete fighter
Don Frye - second complete fighter...solved the riddle of the guard
Maurice Smith - first striker to win a title in UFC
Bas Rutten - dominated pancrase for almost 4 years straight....and won the UFC title
Mark Coleman - winner of numerous UFC's and the winner of the Pride GP
Kazushi Sakuraba - first man to defeat a Gracie in MMA competition[/quote:5013e5d41b]


Maurice smith is definitely not a legend in mma he did something nice but nbot a legend.

DOGGx0
11-30-2002, 07:10 PM
[quote:1e1bb2511e="TannerNoBjj"]I didn't add Frank or Tank because I don't really consider them legends. Tank didn't really do anything good for the sport. He was a fat, out of shape, beer drinking brawler. Frank wasn;t added cause he didn't do anything new for the sport. If you have Frank, you should also have Tito. Would you have Tito listed as Legend? I don't think so.[/quote:1e1bb2511e]

he is a legend in my book