View Full Version : New rule for MMA


badguy
11-29-2002, 05:46 PM
I think there should be a standing eight count in MMA. This would virtualy end controversy for quick match stoppages. It would give the ref sometime to look at the fighter and then determine if the match should end. and if the fighter can continue we all get to see more fighting in a match that otherwise might have been stoped to early. this gives the fighter taking the beating to show he is not done and can continue rather than just stopping the fight because he is inactive.

Kimura
11-29-2002, 05:49 PM
Works for me.

HockeyFighter
11-29-2002, 06:29 PM
Hmmm, interesting. Could be good.

Leather
11-29-2002, 06:49 PM
Good, better than an inutile stoppage...

realkaps
11-29-2002, 06:50 PM
What happens if a fighter is beating the crap out of the other guy, so the ref stops it for the standing 8 count, lets the fight continue and the guy who got the count some how pulls of a victory, it kinda screws the guy who was winning in the first place.....

Kimura
11-29-2002, 06:53 PM
[quote:521f931c2c="kaps"]What happens if a fighter is beating the crap out of the other guy, so the ref stops it for the standing 8 count, lets the fight continue and the guy who got the count some how pulls of a victory, it kinda screws the guy who was winning in the first place.....[/quote:521f931c2c]I am by no means a Tito fan, but that happened to Tito in his first fight against Mezger. Tito definitely got screwed when McCarthy temporarily stopped the fight to check Guy's bleeding, then Guy went on to guillotine Tito.

badguy
11-29-2002, 06:59 PM
Just like in boxing well thats the way it is. Its better than a guy who loses a fight because of a quick stoppage. the fighter loses the fans lose ect. He still gets a 10-8 round decision and has to fight another round the same way in boxing. It makes no sense not to have a standing eight its fair. If a fighter is ok to go it goes on if not the ref can stop it after the count or before he finishes. It would make the refs job easier aswell

badguy
11-29-2002, 07:01 PM
Its the fighters resposibility not to get caught in a sub. Ask the same fighter who has to give his apponent a standing eight if he would appreciate some over zellus ref stopping the fight early on him.

realkaps
11-29-2002, 07:06 PM
Both valid points, but if a ref jumped in and saved a guy I was about to finish and he came back to beat me I would be pissed.....

badguy
11-29-2002, 07:08 PM
YOU WOULD BE PISSED IF A REF STOPPED A FIGHT ON YOU TOEARLY AFTER YOU HAVE DOMINATED FOR THREE ROUNDS AS WELL

realkaps
11-29-2002, 07:12 PM
Yes this is true as well, look next to the "A" key on your keyboard, notice the key that says "Caps Lock", press it......

ParazIT
11-29-2002, 07:41 PM
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH ROTFLMAO @ Kaps!!!!!!

James Fulton
12-01-2002, 12:51 PM
Standing 8 count = bad.

Guys punching eachother with 4 oz. gloves on, KOing someone but they get up before the 10 count, then getting KO'd again... again... etc.

People would be more retarted than boxers. In a few years they'd all be walking around like Muhammad Ali.

Also, it would be unfair in some situations. For example a guy gets a simple knockdown... naturally he's gonna pounce on him and start pounding but if the ref starts counting, he prevents the other guy from going to the ground and finishing.

I think it's fine the way it is. Sometimes a bad stoppage will happen, but the referees are getting better.

realkaps
12-01-2002, 01:37 PM
Thats what I was trying to say, James is correct.....

handjobs4dollars
12-01-2002, 03:00 PM
Yes but if there on the ground are you going to make them stand up again or restart in same postion. You work hard for a postion, your going to want to keep it.

seldomTap
12-01-2002, 10:26 PM
I don't like it...James has made a pretty good point, and Kimura cited and incident where something similar happened.


Think of some of the fights that have been stopped and most of the time, I say the ref gets it right. Normally when the guy underneath has eaten 6 or so punches, he isn't protecting anymore, he isn't trying to escape anymore, he is pretty much taking it and trying to cover up a bit.

fact is, early stoppages are always going to happen, they happen in boxing and kickboxing, they will happen in MMA, and no one who has ever walked in a ring,ocatgon or any other type of stage, has ever thought they were done when the ref stopped them, and judges decisions always go the wrong way!

miller8966
12-02-2002, 12:50 AM
this is stupid,it's fine how it is