platinummatt
07-15-2006, 11:12 AM
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View Full Version : for more power platinummatt 07-15-2006, 11:12 AM http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson80.htm NJFighter91 07-15-2006, 02:56 PM Hitting the heavy bag is the best thing to do for your punching power. Southpaw Stinger 07-15-2006, 03:35 PM Hitting the heavy bag is the best thing to do for your punching power. Definatly. Improve punching power and technique by actually punching, not by lifting weights. PunchDrunk 07-15-2006, 06:01 PM Of course technique and actually punching is the most important thing. No one said it wasn't. At a certain point, you do need other stuff to keep improving. It's like the stamina for boxing isn't JUST built by sparring, though that IS the most important thing. Cockyb 07-15-2006, 06:20 PM obviously doin the right kind of weight circuits improves the power of ur shots, but improving ur technique i feel has the greater impact! my coach worked on my right hand, purely by technique to improve it, and in my next fight i KO'd my oponent with it lol! no joke! good coincidence init! simply put, improving technique and doin weights accordingly improves ur punching power! its hard to xplain describe the weight circuits dat u shud b doin, differs for each person u c! safe speedoverpower0 07-15-2006, 06:42 PM I think it would be quite good! Its only two days a week and the rest can be boxing, thats a good mix I believe. I guess if you wanted you could put both into the one day. Im gonna give it a try. Not disagreing with what you were saying that technique is better. but wouldn't both be great!? PunchDrunk 07-15-2006, 07:21 PM Both are better, anyone should be able to see that. Is just sparring better than sparring AND roadwork? Of course not. That said, I think the program in that link is kinda weak... hemichromis 07-16-2006, 05:06 AM that kind of workout will make you too tense when you through a punch because when you are uppercutting a aweight you have to think about stopping it and this creates tension in the wrong muscles. tis workout will also make short work of your elbows and shoulders!! heavybag is the best way to go PunchDrunk 07-16-2006, 09:32 AM that kind of workout will make you too tense when you through a punch because when you are uppercutting a aweight you have to think about stopping it and this creates tension in the wrong muscles. tis workout will also make short work of your elbows and shoulders!! heavybag is the best way to go Wrong. You should always think about reversing a punch, and get it back to your guard. That doesn't creat tension, that creates SNAP. What's wrong with that program is that it isn't clear whether it's a strength program or an explosive program. Those weights for the uppercuts are too heavy for explosive work, and the exercise in itself is to specific ("functional") for strength work. Elbows and shoulders will be just fine if you know what you're doing. All training will "make short work" of you, if you don't know what you're doing. That said, I'm not excited about that workout either, but the reasons you state aren't the right ones. :) platinummatt 07-16-2006, 11:04 AM hmmm explosive? anyone have any explosive programs??? thankyou! hemichromis 07-16-2006, 12:45 PM Wrong. You should always think about reversing a punch, and get it back to your guard. That doesn't creat tension, that creates SNAP. :) yes but if you have a weight in your hand you are gonna start reversing it sooner or hyperextend your elbow! PunchDrunk 07-16-2006, 02:32 PM yes but if you have a weight in your hand you are gonna start reversing it sooner or hyperextend your elbow! Hyperextend your elbow on an uppercut?? How the hell do you even straighten your arm all the way on an uppercut? :confused: Even on a straight punch, it's not a problem as long as you turn your hand properly. You'd know this if you ever tried it, of course. :rolleyes: mayweather 07-16-2006, 04:46 PM hmmm explosive? anyone have any explosive programs??? thankyou! yeah man ill make one up hold on mayweather 07-16-2006, 04:50 PM for explosiveness try something like this deadlifts jump squats powercleans hang cleans push press do all of those lifts with sort of a, linear 5 x 5 template. so lets say if your 5 rep max for a lift is 200 lbs, start with 150 for 5 reps the next set is 170 for 5 reps then do your 3 work sets with 200 for 5 reps each good luck with your strenght and explosivness this is a strength/explosive workout you will not see many gains with hypertrophy by using 5 x 5 any more questions just ask platinummatt 07-16-2006, 04:58 PM woah nice one. I doubt I can do this stuff but thanks loads for the effort! good K and points awarded mayweather 07-16-2006, 05:03 PM woah nice one. I doubt I can do this stuff but thanks loads for the effort! good K and points awarded yeah man if you have access to a squat rack with enough weight like at a gym then you can do it. i didnt mean specifically do those weights. that was just sort of a way to show the ratio of your work sets to your warm up sets dont feel overwhelmed this is a pretty simple routine that somebody could do i didnt go to complex cus it sounds like you dont lift too much any questions or things you are interested in please ask hemichromis 07-17-2006, 02:52 PM Hyperextend your elbow on an uppercut?? How the hell do you even straighten your arm all the way on an uppercut? :confused: Even on a straight punch, it's not a problem as long as you turn your hand properly. You'd know this if you ever tried it, of course. :rolleyes: i was using an uppercut as an example you opbviously cant hyperextend on an uppercut but you can on a straight punch and you will if you punch air with heavy weights whether you turn your hand or not! platinummatt 07-17-2006, 03:03 PM I dont lift much I mainly do bodyweight exercises. I also cant do lifts like that because of a spine condition. Do you know any bodyweight exercises for explosiveness? Thankyou PunchDrunk 07-17-2006, 06:19 PM i was using an uppercut as an example you opbviously cant hyperextend on an uppercut but you can on a straight punch and you will if you punch air with heavy weights whether you turn your hand or not! Don't use an example that doesn't work next time then, because it shows you don't know what you're talking about! Yes, you CAN hyperextend on a straight punch. If you don't do it right. I don't hyperextend, my fighters don't hyperextend. Do you hyperextend? What does that tell you? ;) yrrej 07-17-2006, 08:21 PM The bench press and military press aren't necessary. For the rest, just practice boxing movements nice and easy with 8 pound barbells in each hand. Most of the power comes from mass, acceleration, and leverage. And it comes at different angles than than the standard weightlifting exercises. j 07-17-2006, 11:15 PM i would not recommend bodybuilding to increase power. strongman type "weightlifting" will be better if you want to go that route. but i agree with some here, practice punching = better punching. funny thing though, i haven't heard anybody talk about positioning and timing yet. these two things have a fairly big effect on your punching power. you can punch extremely hard, but if you can't hit a clean punch, your power is basically useless. one thing i think i can also add is - use only as much as necessary. using more than nec. is a waste. Hunna 07-19-2006, 02:23 AM http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson80.htm ppl seem to forget, u get maximal power out of ur punch from utilising larger muscles = in legs, and back muscles, provided right technique and placement. look at Ali and Tyson style, they had different styles but heavily relied upon strong thighs and calves to launch attacks... both had strong legs. in some cases, u have odd cases of guys who are arm punches and techniques doesnt fully take advantage of leg power, however, they use technique so long, they become efficient and generate strong punches with it. e.g. Foreman mayweather 07-19-2006, 11:41 PM I dont lift much I mainly do bodyweight exercises. I also cant do lifts like that because of a spine condition. Do you know any bodyweight exercises for explosiveness? Thankyou yeah man think about some depth jumps and medicine ball work clap pushups depth pushups stand ups, start at situp position and stand up with someone holding your feet.-mayweather does em this should have some good exercises http://exrx.net/Lists/PowerExercises.html look to the left and all under "plyometrics" should be great for the bodyweight portion of ur routine anymore questions just ask Cockyb 07-20-2006, 05:17 AM [QUOTE=j]funny thing though, i haven't heard anybody talk about positioning and timing yet. these two things have a fairly big effect on your punching power. you can punch extremely hard, but if you can't hit a clean punch, your power is basically useless. [QUOTE] great post! timing is essential! if the opponent sees ur big power shot coming it simply wil not hurt him as much, however if u can time ur shot to perfection, so u for instance counter with a left hook wen ur oponent throws a right, u cud wel KO him! obviously u need the right technique and gud power to be able to KO oponents but timing is a key point! Obdeboondocks 07-20-2006, 12:40 PM great thread was looking for a weight lifting routine for the next month or so and found it. thank you. platinummatt 07-20-2006, 12:48 PM yeah man think about some depth jumps and medicine ball work clap pushups depth pushups stand ups, start at situp position and stand up with someone holding your feet.-mayweather does em this should have some good exercises http://exrx.net/Lists/PowerExercises.html look to the left and all under "plyometrics" should be great for the bodyweight portion of ur routine anymore questions just ask Cheers! good k and points mayweather 07-20-2006, 02:10 PM Cheers! good k and points haha thanks again man want anything else just ask |