Why is it that some people while doing pushups in the 50 rep range but still eating lots of food, gain muscle? Isn't the muscle building area 6-12 reps? Is it still possible to gain muscle if one does sts of 50 squats, pushups, etc.

Depends on the person.

I gained more muscle and increased my bench by 100 pounds by just doing 10+ sets of 25 push-ups a day, then increasing the reps to 50, and hopefully moving up again soon.

Why is it that some people while doing pushups in the 50 rep range but still eating lots of food, gain muscle? Isn't the muscle building area 6-12 reps? Is it still possible to gain muscle if one does sts of 50 squats, pushups, etc.

6-12 reps r better for muscles mass (better 6-10, and 15+ for calves ;)). More reps costrict u to use too little weight for exercices, and muscle won't be stimulated enough for hypertrophy (if u really need it). Strenght periods r good for this target too.

Important is the recovery among series too.

Why is it that some people while doing pushups in the 50 rep range but still eating lots of food, gain muscle? Isn't the muscle building area 6-12 reps? Is it still possible to gain muscle if one does sts of 50 squats, pushups, etc.

Two things:

1. Genetics. Some people, usually the ones with a lot of explosive fibres in their natural make up, have an easy time growing. versatile2k6 from the board comes to mind.

2. It also depends on how much muscle you already have. If you're a stick, who hasn't done any training before, putting on a little muscle will come very naturally in the beginning, and it really takes very little muscle to look like something, if you have next to nothing to begin with. If you're Arnold size, 50 pushups won't do anything noticeable. :)

If you're trying to build strength I suggest using a pyramid workout plan. My friend is an amateur bodybuilder and gave me his strength conditioning program. It works really well, I saw huge improvements in about a month.

For Chest
I have no idea what you bench so I'm just going to start with 135, average weight for most people.

For warm ups, do 1 set of inlclined pushups or dips.

Bench Press Routine
1 set with 10 reps @ 105
1 set with 8 reps @ 115
1 set with 6 reps @ 125
1 set with 4 reps @ 135
1 set with 6 reps @ 125
1 set with 8 reps @ 115
1 set with 10 reps @ 105
*rest for about 1.5-2 minutes between sets*
*repeat workout routine at least twice, three times if possible*

Dumbbell Flyes
1 set with 8 reps @25
1 set with 6 reps @35
1 set with 4 reps @45
*rest for about 1.5-2 minutes between sets*
*repeat workout routine at least twice, three times if possible*

Cool down
1 set of inclined pushups or dips


You should increase weight every other week by 10-20 lbs. After 2 months return to a more normal workout routine, so your muscles don't have time to adapt so you can get a better workout.

Before I started out with this workout I was working out with 215 doing about 8 reps for 3 sets and I felt I wasn't getting any stronger. After I tried this workout for about 2 months my bench increased to about 50lbs, I was easily working out with 265 and maxing around 315.

He didn't mention strength ANYWHERE in this topic, so that post is just ridiculously misplaced...

Besides, a bodybuilding program like that is the LAST thing a boxer needs. Thanks, but no thanks.

So it is possible to gain some muscle in the high rep range? Not as much as 6-12, but still possible?

So it is possible to gain some muscle in the high rep range? Not as much as 6-12, but still possible?

Yes. Depends on your genes, and how much muscle you already have though. :)

im confused are u all saying put less weight on so u can do more reps or put more on so u can only do about 10?
which is better for muscle mass

8-12 reps is better for muscle mass. That doesn't mean it's impossible to gain a little the other way. Especially if you have very little mass to begin with. :)

Question. Isn't muscle building when the fibers break down and rebuild bigger/stronger. So reps shouldn't matter as long as you break down the fibers whether it's 5 reps or 50 reps? Am I correct?

Question. Isn't muscle building when the fibers break down and rebuild bigger/stronger. So reps shouldn't matter as long as you break down the fibers whether it's 5 reps or 50 reps? Am I correct?

Hypertrophy will be stimulated when u destroy ur muscle, yeah, but the hormon will make our muscles bigger. Hormons will be released by a lactic acid training, with big weights (75-85% of ur 1MR) and short series (6-10/12, depending by training type, ur training experience, genetic..). 50 reps make ur nervous stress over the stars :D

Hypertrophy will be stimulated when u destroy ur muscle, yeah, but the hormon will make our muscles bigger. Hormons will be released by a lactic acid training, with big weights (75-85% of ur 1MR) and short series (6-10/12, depending by training type, ur training experience, genetic..). 50 reps make ur nervous stress over the stars :DThere's also lactic acid being released by doing 50 reps or 500 reps.

There's also lactic acid being released by doing 50 reps or 500 reps.

Wrong. Many intensity, faster glucose's destroying = lactic acid. Doing 50reps at -50%1MR, u won't have fast glucose destroy, because u'll make aerobic training. As u know, aerobic training doesn't let u any mass gaining :)

you know, i hear most people talk about muscle building, sculptering, etc. why is it so many people neglect training the tendons?

you know, i hear most people talk about muscle building, sculptering, etc. why is it so many people neglect training the tendons?

What in the world do you mean? :confused:

What in the world do you mean?

training tendons, bro. you know, the tissue that connects the muscles to the bone.

I know what tendons are. How do you mean to train them, apart from the muscles?

lots of standing! :D

i'm actually not kidding about that either. there are many ways to strengthen tendons. i do not know them all and the shit i do know is not easily described in words, or rather it wouldn't help you by describing it to you, but here is a link to something i found that would be relative to boxing.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=46

lots of standing! :D

i'm actually not kidding about that either. there are many ways to strengthen tendons. i do not know them all and the shit i do know is not easily described in words, or rather it wouldn't help you by describing it to you, but here is a link to something i found that would be relative to boxing.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=46

Well, that's not really any different from what boxers do for explosive work in the first place. Not mine anyway... Does it have an effect on the tendons? Sure, but I wouldn't go as far as to call, or other plyometrics tendon training, as there are a number of other factors involved. Heck, any training that has an impact on muscles also has an impact on tendons.

Question. If I'm doing calisthenics, 2 days are high reps and 3 days or for strength/size, for the strength/size days, should I do 3x10 or 5x5 or less volume like 3x5.