View Full Version : how effective is standup?


Napol
12-01-2002, 03:40 PM
standup is definetly effective, but this depends on the person ur fighting. if they fight on the ground and have a good shoot its going to be hard to make ur stand up efefective. i love to watch two guys stand toe to toe!! but thats hard to come by. i have seen tons of street fights in my life, and only one time have i seen two guys stand toe to toe. it was an awsome fight!!! my personal opinion is that u need to know stand up as much as u need to know what ur doing on the ground.

handjobs4dollars
12-01-2002, 03:47 PM
My goal in a street fight is get them to the ground.Because most people don't know how to fight from the ground. But how do you get them to the ground. The answer is striking. So in my training i've been doing alot of striks and them shoot staright for a takedown. I also have been doing some defending of this. I wear the mits well someone is hitting them and trying to stop the takedown.

DOGGx0
12-01-2002, 04:12 PM
i have not trained to much stand up. i have trained a little muay tai for a few months.

when i fight, my goal is to shoot at their legs or someting and get them on the ground. i am a small guy, so i can't stand too long, but i can manuvuer preaty well on the ground cause of my size which makes me able to beat the piss outta someone. i can work some kind of submission with punches and knees, maaaaaaaaaad elbows and such. and i ain't gotta worry about nothing else. i can get up and roll out and they are alredy placed on the floor, as i made them.

however, stand up is vital, cause if you don't have the takedown, especially on a person that is tremndous in size..... you have to exchange a few and recieve a few. as long as you can land some powerful punches in accoradance with your take down...... you are straight.

Waylander
12-01-2002, 04:17 PM
I just put the one hitter quitter on em, they always go to the ground like glass joe.

Seriously, you have to have standup in your repetoire, all fights start standing.

realkaps
12-01-2002, 04:17 PM
Stand up is effective, although in a streetfight I can use stand up for only so long before I start to get winded and they get the best of me so I usualy go for a head and arm and control the fight from the ground.......

James Fulton
12-01-2002, 04:19 PM
95% of fights end up going to the ground.

100% of fights start standing.

Standup is very vital, especially when fighting someone with a sprawl.

DOGGx0
12-01-2002, 04:24 PM
i agree with James.

it is very vital, very much needed.... i think not as much as ground work cause if you get punched to the ground, then you can work your ground game.

but it is very vital, cause in trying to get to the ground with no stand up game can end up in a KO. so you have to be well rounded if you want to win. but to answer the question..... it is NEEDED.

seldomTap
12-01-2002, 09:00 PM
Stand up is very important IMO...but even more important is being able to read your opponent and see what he is going to do. Being able to read what someone is going to do is priceless

Napol
12-01-2002, 09:47 PM
thats true. its a nice feeling to know ur one step ahead. but thats a skill that take hella time to learn. u cant learn that on the street. u would have to be fighting like 3 times a week.

seldomTap
12-01-2002, 10:56 PM
Thats true...I guess the closest you could get to it is by training Vale Tudo almost exclusively, only sparring. You would soon pick up how people carry themselves for different types of fighting...

VulgarTheClown
12-02-2002, 02:25 AM
I have only Boxed for about 2 1/2 months but i can definately say it is quite usefull especially if the person you are fighting doesn;t knw owhat they are doin.

Kimura
12-02-2002, 10:58 AM
The number 1 heavyweight today is not only a great grappler, but an excellent stand up fighter as well, Antonio Nogueira.

Piedra
12-04-2002, 04:48 PM
stand up is great but if you are not a versed fighter you are lost with a bjj expert or a wrestler.

DOGGx0
12-04-2002, 06:19 PM
[quote:16f3e1f3dc="Piedra"]stand up is great but if you are not a versed fighter you are lost with a bjj expert or a wrestler.[/quote:16f3e1f3dc]

^ what he said

Jeremy Jackson
12-16-2002, 01:22 AM
These days stand up is very important. I believe you should learn stand up first then ground. Because every fight starts standing. So the way I look at it my opponent is mine for a couple of seconds.

scorpion

Itfihtr
12-16-2002, 01:30 AM
Well if you deliver a a heavy shot to one of the three buttons,you will either knock him out,or set yourself for the shoot.
I could not understand this day in time,tryin to compete without the knowledge of both.

True_Warrior4
12-20-2002, 01:41 PM
ITS VERY AFFECTIVE

Kempo Chris
02-25-2003, 12:00 AM
Stand in my opinion is the most important part o fightin. Im not saying ground work isnt important, because i know it is. But a truly great standup fighter will not let a fight go to ground unless he wants it to.

demitri
02-25-2003, 07:28 PM
Stand up is a key element for any fighter. You have to learn to be able to throw a punch, and put your body into it. Kicks can very easily keep your opponent at bay, setting up a nice combo can give you a window of oppurtunity to shoot. Grappling is important, but striking is as well. You need to able to punch, kick, grapple, and submit. If not, it'll either be a very long day, or a very short one.

Curly Howard
02-25-2003, 07:51 PM
Welcome to the forums demitri

Curly Howard
02-26-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Kyokushinkai
STFU noob :fu:

not in here :nonono:

submission_guy
02-26-2003, 12:37 AM
IMO they are both equally important, but if you dont hvae any stand up skills then you had better take it down asap or you will get KTFO.

submission_guy
02-26-2003, 03:51 AM
i guess it would work both ways, if i got taken down by someone that knew bjj or somthing and i wasn't back up asap they would easily land a sub...

Desperado
02-28-2003, 06:37 PM
Having experience and knowledge of decent standup game is crucial in successfully surviving a brawl. Although 2/3 of fights end up on the ground, giving your opponent some wicked strike-combos will daze him/her, and unconsciously lower their confidence in being able to go toe to toe with you. Thats why they'll shoot for a shoot...but with good spwaling skills and speedy reflexes, being an awesome striker can prevent them from even being in a ground brawl with you. And most likely if the fight is...say a bar fight or street encounte, most likely it'll be some jumping, so being able to execute swift strikes will balance it out...especially if they're unorthodox and you're skilled.