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lil rocky 07-06-2006, 11:00 PM how many days a week do you think somebody should workout each body part
rite now i work chest and arms monday wed friday
shoulders back and legs tuesday thursday saturday
is that to much please give advice thanks.
Erbad 07-06-2006, 11:02 PM how many days a week do you think somebody should workout each body part
rite now i work chest and arms monday wed friday
shoulders back and legs tuesday thursday saturday
is that to much please give advice thanks.
At my gym we work all of our body parts in a single practice. Quite brutal, but very very good after effects.. :D
lil rocky 07-06-2006, 11:43 PM how many days do you do that a week
Erbad 07-06-2006, 11:47 PM how many days do you do that a week
3 days a week, but we're suppose to do them at home too. Which I do that as well.
NJFighter91 07-07-2006, 01:20 AM I workout every bodypart everyday. This is mainly because I do just calisthenics. If you're doing weights, I would suggest an Upper/Lower body split.
Rane-Ex54 07-07-2006, 09:44 AM yeah calisthenics are they way to go...the every day do something different is a weightlifters work out unless your doing tons of reps on one lower weight. I'm an advocate of dismissing lifting to many weights...it will slow you down in the ring. I actually internally laugh at half the guys at my gym, with there obese arms and skinny ass legs, never doing cardio. O I'd love to dance around the ring with them and box the hell out of um. haha
TysonK.O. 07-07-2006, 02:20 PM yeah calisthenics are they way to go...the every day do something different is a weightlifters work out unless your doing tons of reps on one lower weight. I'm an advocate of dismissing lifting to many weights...it will slow you down in the ring. I actually internally laugh at half the guys at my gym, with there obese arms and skinny ass legs, never doing cardio. O I'd love to dance around the ring with them and box the hell out of um. haha
im confused are u saying tha if u lift alot then it will slow u down,cause thats how i lift weights,is it wromg?
Rane-Ex54 07-07-2006, 02:29 PM yeah thats pretty much what i'm staying. Lifting weights will slow your punches down, due to muscle gain and stiffness. I think if done it should be done in moderation. Boxing excercises like, heavy, speed bag, jump rope, medicine ball, push ups, sit ups, running, shadow boxing, mit work, and sparring is what you should be doing.
Rane-Ex54 07-07-2006, 02:33 PM I don't use weights at all, except for the occasional dumb-bells I have at my apt. Ali never used weights.
PunchDrunk 07-07-2006, 03:22 PM yeah thats pretty much what i'm staying. Lifting weights will slow your punches down, due to muscle gain and stiffness. I think if done it should be done in moderation. Boxing excercises like, heavy, speed bag, jump rope, medicine ball, push ups, sit ups, running, shadow boxing, mit work, and sparring is what you should be doing.
You simply don't know what you're talking about. You can (and should) lift weights for other gains than muscle mass. Explosiveness (which makes for faster, harder punches) is dependent on max strength. 100m runners (just to name an obvious example) know this. Their steps are anything but slow, if you catch my point, and they do LOTS of weights. There's no "magic" that makes arms slower from weights, but legs faster, sorry.
3 things make these guys so fast: 1. Genetics 2. Running technique, and 3. increased explosiveness through weight training. Much in the same way, there's 3 things that'll make a fast/powerful puncher: 1. Genetics 2. Punching technique, and 3. weight training. For a boxer it's entirely possible to be a good puncher without the weights, if the 2 first are covered. But why not incorporate the third (except if you don't know how to do it right, of course!), to make a genetically gifted, technically skilled puncher even better?
And what's this stiffness you're talking about, and how will it slow punches down? Weight training for athletes is NOT bodybuilding. Get it through your thick skulls people! :rolleyes:
platinummatt 07-07-2006, 03:24 PM I do simple exercises. I do pullups, pushups and hand grips one day, and crunches the next day. I might start doing neck exercises to. I go to gym mon and wen
Erbad 07-07-2006, 03:29 PM I do simple exercises. I do pullups, pushups and hand grips one day, and crunches the next day. I might start doing neck exercises to. I go to gym mon and wen
If you box or do anything contact like spar, I would really do neck exercises so you don't screw yourself up, if you get rocked.
jadagod 07-07-2006, 04:28 PM sorry to but in but what are the neck exercises?
i been boxin for 2 months and i love everypart but i aint dun any neck exercise that i remember, i seen a guy who was a bouncer when i ust to go to the gym(weight lift not boxing) and he ust to lay down raise his back off the ground and roll back and forth on his head
it look crazy, is that the kind of thing u mean?
platinummatt 07-07-2006, 06:31 PM yeh, you can get weights to do it to. They improve the muscles in your neck helping take the shock of a punch making it less likely you get ko
Rane-Ex54 07-07-2006, 06:38 PM You simply don't know what you're talking about. You can (and should) lift weights for other gains than muscle mass. Explosiveness (which makes for faster, harder punches) is dependent on max strength. 100m runners (just to name an obvious example) know this. Their steps are anything but slow, if you catch my point, and they do LOTS of weights. There's no "magic" that makes arms slower from weights, but legs faster, sorry.
3 things make these guys so fast: 1. Genetics 2. Running technique, and 3. increased explosiveness through weight training. Much in the same way, there's 3 things that'll make a fast/powerful puncher: 1. Genetics 2. Punching technique, and 3. weight training. For a boxer it's entirely possible to be a good puncher without the weights, if the 2 first are covered. But why not incorporate the third (except if you don't know how to do it right, of course!), to make a genetically gifted, technically skilled puncher even better?
And what's this stiffness you're talking about, and how will it slow punches down? Weight training for athletes is NOT bodybuilding. Get it through your thick skulls people! :rolleyes:
Punch Drunk. I don't think you got were my message was coming from. If you read what he's doing its increased mass muscle weight training. That's body building. The definition of body building is building up mass in the body to put it simply enough, right?? If you gain to much arm/ body mass you will slow down your punches. That's a fact. Now just like I said weights are good in moderation. It just seems to me this dude is weight lifting to get big. And thats totally different then a boxer's regimine. Shit on it all you want but I think most boxers would agree w/ me.
PunchDrunk 07-07-2006, 07:48 PM Punch Drunk. I don't think you got were my message was coming from. If you read what he's doing its increased mass muscle weight training. That's body building. The definition of body building is building up mass in the body to put it simply enough, right?? If you gain to much arm/ body mass you will slow down your punches. That's a fact. Now just like I said weights are good in moderation. It just seems to me this dude is weight lifting to get big. And thats totally different then a boxer's regimine. Shit on it all you want but I think most boxers would agree w/ me.
Well, maybe I partly misunderstood what you said then. Sorry 'bout that.
I wouldn't recommend building mass either, but not necessarily because it slows you down, depending on what you mean by that. Most really big guys actually end up lifting some pretty heavy weights. Now, having raised their max strength to impressive levels, their explosive potential has been increased as well. Fact is, a lot of these beefy guys hit pretty hard. The REAL problem with massive muscles is that they take a lot of energy and oxygen, so in that way, yes, they will slow you down, because you'll tire FAST.
But remember, we're talking guys with massive arms, not 14 year olds, who might not even be able to put on 10 lbs of muscle. A kid like shouldn't really be worried about getting Bob Sapp arms anytime soon.
I agree this kid sounds like he wants to gain mass, which I told him in another thread to forget about if he wants to be a boxer.
Queensdawg 07-07-2006, 11:33 PM so what do you think would be more effective, a lil bit of every muscle everyday, or focusing on one muscle per day..
Erbad 07-08-2006, 02:27 AM so what do you think would be more effective, a lil bit of every muscle everyday, or focusing on one muscle per day..
If you want some quick results I would go with working every muscle, but if you don't have anything big coming up just do one muscle per day so you don't kill yourself during one practice session.
PunchDrunk 07-08-2006, 07:24 AM so what do you think would be more effective, a lil bit of every muscle everyday, or focusing on one muscle per day..
Full body workout. No split program bodybuilding crap for athletes!
NJFighter91 07-08-2006, 12:51 PM Full body workout. No split program bodybuilding crap for athletes!Push/Pull/Legs, Upper/Lower, in addition to Full Body are best. Any workout that works with the bodies mechanics and plane movement and not a body part.
yrrej 07-08-2006, 03:47 PM Hit the bag.........
PunchDrunk 07-08-2006, 08:34 PM Great advice, but it has nothing to do with the topic.
If you don't know the answer, it's okay to just not post.
Zamora 07-10-2006, 10:50 AM well said punch drunk - how does weight lifting slow you down - every athlete and professional sportsmen/women do some form of weights except many boxers dont - i do know that ricky hatton started doing weights recently which allowed him to move up in weight. to the original topic - my personal opinion is try and work out every body part in one session but make try and change your workout every 3 - 4 weeks to maximise your overall gains. you could easily do just 3 workout sessions a week doing cardio on the non-workout days and you would get better results than what your doing now - another advantage of working every body part is that because you are doing it frequently then you build muscular endurance and strength.
TysonK.O. 07-10-2006, 02:47 PM Well, maybe I partly misunderstood what you said then. Sorry 'bout that.
I wouldn't recommend building mass either, but not necessarily because it slows you down, depending on what you mean by that. Most really big guys actually end up lifting some pretty heavy weights. Now, having raised their max strength to impressive levels, their explosive potential has been increased as well. Fact is, a lot of these beefy guys hit pretty hard. The REAL problem with massive muscles is that they take a lot of energy and oxygen, so in that way, yes, they will slow you down, because you'll tire FAST.
But remember, we're talking guys with massive arms, not 14 year olds, who might not even be able to put on 10 lbs of muscle. A kid like shouldn't really be worried about getting Bob Sapp arms anytime soon.
I agree this kid sounds like he wants to gain mass, which I told him in another thread to forget about if he wants to be a boxer.
i kind of want to gain mass cause im only 110 pounds and im skinney so i doubt it will slow mw down
PunchDrunk 07-10-2006, 03:07 PM i kind of want to gain mass cause im only 110 pounds and im skinney so i doubt it will slow mw down
You're 14, right? You'll gain mass and weight automatically as you get older. My advice to you is to stop worrying about getting bigger, and start focusing on learning how to box (if that's still something you want to do). You WILL get bigger, no matter what, but becoming a boxer takes a lot of hard work.
The Big Baby 07-10-2006, 03:24 PM I wouldn't recommend building mass either, but not necessarily because it slows you down, depending on what you mean by that. Most really big guys actually end up lifting some pretty heavy weights. Now, having raised their max strength to impressive levels, their explosive potential has been increased as well. Fact is, a lot of these beefy guys hit pretty hard. The REAL problem with massive muscles is that they take a lot of energy and oxygen, so in that way, yes, they will slow you down, because you'll tire FAST.
But remember, we're talking guys with massive arms, not 14 year olds, who might not even be able to put on 10 lbs of muscle. A kid like shouldn't really be worried about getting Bob Sapp arms anytime soon.
I agree this kid sounds like he wants to gain mass, which I told him in another thread to forget about if he wants to be a boxer.
:biggthump
All u're sayin' is right! Boxer shouldn't think at mass (younger one too), he should to look at weight training from boxer's eyes: weight shouldn't help u to built up muscular mass, they MUST only to make ur strenght go upto stars. Doing it, train ur explosive movements (with weights) for speed gainin' and in order to get off stiffness. To raise up dumbel/barbel weights (never cables or machines!), make base exercices for everybody 3-4-5 times a week with much weight as u can. Remember to ciclize ur body's best training types (there r many!), for not to get strenght/mass accustomed.
Bags will cry after ur punches ;)
TysonK.O. 07-10-2006, 04:48 PM You're 14, right? You'll gain mass and weight automatically as you get older. My advice to you is to stop worrying about getting bigger, and start focusing on learning how to box (if that's still something you want to do). You WILL get bigger, no matter what, but becoming a boxer takes a lot of hard work.
thanx for the advice
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