View Full Version : WINNER PAID -- Pro or Amateur...


10-20-2002, 08:19 AM
academiachuteboxe... PLEASE EXPLAIN SOMETHING for me...

:?:

You are an amateur MMA fighter. Yet, Chris Mize pays the winner of his MMA fights $100 for the victory. Doesn't that void amateur status???

I can understand the hotel accomodations -- but paying an 'amateur' fighter doesn't seem legit.

Secondly, you won you fight on his card, therefore you were paid $100. When promoters ask do you tell them about the money???

Please clarify. What do you other guys think? Cast your vote now.

Thanks.
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10-20-2002, 12:52 PM
Come'on guys VOTE!

DOGGx0
10-20-2002, 03:11 PM
I voted yes.

Because it is true, that if you get money for a fighting... you are a Proffessional fighter.

If you are fighting C level, B level or A level.... as long as you are getting paid.. you are a pro. Amatures do free shows for exposure, face, record.

-Dogg

Bella
10-20-2002, 06:21 PM
Im with you guys. Amateur status is for no compensation, but as dogg mentioned I can understand the hotel accomodations.

academiachuteboxe
10-20-2002, 07:37 PM
Good question/topic. I am not sure how to answer that to be honest with you. Think about this...you can fight in an amateur toughman contest and win $500 but that does not make you a pro boxer.

I think the line between "pro" and amateur in these local organizations is thin. Now- we all know that UFC, KOTC, Pride, etc fighters are pro. However, on these small cards there are always a couple of "pro" fighters. I think that is simply determined by the # of fights that one has. I think I remembering that once someone has 8 fights they can be considered pro. However, I am not sure about all of this so maybe someone else can chime in.

All I know is this....I am not complaining about getting the $100 :)

Sorry this didn't help more.

10-20-2002, 09:51 PM
WHO VOTED "NO" AND WHY???

TuffGuy
10-21-2002, 02:46 AM
Well maybe this will clarify things. If you fight in open handed shows they arent put on your pro record. You are paid for them though. Kage Kombat and some of the other shows that feature a pancration style are usually considered ametuer fights when it comes to your record. These fights will not show up on your record if and when you do become pro. You are paid regardless if you win or lose. The winner is paid the fee for fighting and the winners purse. The loser recieves the money for showing and fighting only.
Ask pro fighters if theses guys are pros though. Majority of them will say yes. The biggest differences are skill level. That is the biggest difference between A level fighters, B level fighters and C level fighters. I would classify Kage Kombat as a C level show. To sum it all up I would say yes you are a pro fighter the minute you fight in an organized show and recieve money.

10-21-2002, 06:54 AM
I think academiachuteboxe must of cast the only 'NO' vote.

Allison
10-21-2002, 08:14 AM
In boxing, being paid for a fight doesn't constitute being a professional.

10-21-2002, 08:17 AM
What country are you referring to Allison?

pål johnsen
10-21-2002, 08:55 AM
i voted yes!

Allison
10-21-2002, 09:14 AM
Thats under IBF regulation. I mean, of course you could wear a little sticker on your shirt that says "Professional Boxer", but it doesnt mean ****. To be legally considered a professional, you have to be licensed as one, which isnt completely easy from what I've heard. The association wants to analyze your amatuer passbook, and there are in depth medical examinations..Also, you have to fill out tax forms and give up financial information.

academiachuteboxe
10-21-2002, 09:50 AM
Well- I have no idea. I don't consider myself a pro fighter but yes, this next show will be the second time I have been paid to fight.

10-21-2002, 06:37 PM
I hope you win your next fight, and you collect another $100.

Detective Mosely
10-22-2002, 05:35 AM
this is all semantics....
is there no such thing as a paid amateur? is the difference that a pro fighter always gets paid, but the amateur only gets paid for the win?

this is all of the top of my head, but i kinda like that explanation...