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NJFighter91
07-04-2006, 10:09 PM
Is variety is your training important and makes a difference? Right now I just do the basics and effective Squats, Pull-Ups, Sit-Ups, and Pushups. I do these 3-5 times a week depending on my schedule. Same exercise, are there any benefits to doing another exercise. Like for the first 3 weeks I do pushups, then the next 3 weeks are diamond pushups. Are there benefits to this in terms of gains?

yrrej
07-04-2006, 10:12 PM
Variety is essential to counteract boredom and ensure consistency, which is the most important thing, rather than the exercises themselves....

NJFighter91
07-04-2006, 10:17 PM
Variety is essential to counteract boredom and ensure consistency, which is the most important thing, rather than the exercises themselves....So switching exercises every 3-4 weeks is good? Like I choose 5 exercises and rotate them every 3 weeks?

PunchDrunk
07-05-2006, 04:41 AM
Remember that what makes training effective, is that it "shocks" to body, forcing it to adapt and become stronger/faster/more enduring. If you just do the same workout over and over, the shock effect goes away, and you'll get minimal to nothing out of it. Variety, variety, variety.

jason100x
07-05-2006, 11:07 AM
I think mixing up your routine is very good for the body, it can definitely help push you to new levels.

Try this for some ideas for variety:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15833023/an/0/page/0#15833023

NJFighter91
07-05-2006, 11:10 AM
Remember that what makes training effective, is that it "shocks" to body, forcing it to adapt and become stronger/faster/more enduring. If you just do the same workout over and over, the shock effect goes away, and you'll get minimal to nothing out of it. Variety, variety, variety.Ok. But if I do pushups everyday for months and every week, I can add another rep or two, that means I'm still progressing, so if I still add reps or weight even with the same exercise for months, do I still need to shock it?

PunchDrunk
07-05-2006, 12:48 PM
Ok. But if I do pushups everyday for months and every week, I can add another rep or two, that means I'm still progressing, so if I still add reps or weight even with the same exercise for months, do I still need to shock it?

You should maybe mix it up a little instead. Who needs to be able to do 500 pushups? Do different types of pushups; one arm pushups, handstand pushups etc. Do dips, bench and dumbell presses. Do pushups with claps, pushups where you fall from your knees to your hands and push back up explosively. Do medicine ball throws mimicking straight punches, high hooks, low hooks etc. The possibilities are endless, so why would you do the same exercise everyday for months? Different resistance, different rep schemes will keep you progressing in your training.

PunchDrunk
07-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Oh, but most of all; get a trainer who knows his ****, and train your boxing SKILLS! That's the most important at your age.

NJFighter91
07-05-2006, 02:19 PM
I think mixing up your routine is very good for the body, it can definitely help push you to new levels.

Try this for some ideas for variety:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/15833023/an/0/page/0#15833023Thanks, good link.

Oh, but most of all; get a trainer who knows his ****, and train your boxing SKILLS! That's the most important at your age.Yeah, I already do that; I just want calisthenics for the conditioning and endurance. That 500 pushup comment, that is actually my goal (long term though) :p

My calisthenics training and everything I do that's done outside the boxing gym is for endurance and I want to do high reps.

Right now, I do Pushups, Squats, Pull-Ups, and Sit-Ups everyday, 20 sets each. Reps are different (squats are 20 reps, pull-ups 5 reps, pushups 10 reps, sit-ups 50 reps.) And each week, I try to add 1-3 reps to each one of the 20 sets. So everyday is like an endurance day.

Would it be better if I had different things for different days. Let me explain.

2 days could be explosive days where I do plyometrics, another 2 days for exercises sticking in the 10 rep range and 1 day for endurance.

This good?

PunchDrunk
07-05-2006, 03:26 PM
Thanks, good link.

Yeah, I already do that; I just want calisthenics for the conditioning and endurance. That 500 pushup comment, that is actually my goal (long term though) :p

My calisthenics training and everything I do that's done outside the boxing gym is for endurance and I want to do high reps.

Right now, I do Pushups, Squats, Pull-Ups, and Sit-Ups everyday, 20 sets each. Reps are different (squats are 20 reps, pull-ups 5 reps, pushups 10 reps, sit-ups 50 reps.) And each week, I try to add 1-3 reps to each one of the 20 sets. So everyday is like an endurance day.

Would it be better if I had different things for different days. Let me explain.

2 days could be explosive days where I do plyometrics, another 2 days for exercises sticking in the 10 rep range and 1 day for endurance.

This good?

Yeah, that would definitely be better. The way you're doing it now will wear you out, and ultimately you'll be bored doing that much everyday, the same way. Besides, you'll get stronger up to a point, and your endurance will get better, but you won't get as explosive as you would if you work on that also.

NJFighter91
07-05-2006, 03:51 PM
Yeah, that would definitely be better. The way you're doing it now will wear you out, and ultimately you'll be bored doing that much everyday, the same way. Besides, you'll get stronger up to a point, and your endurance will get better, but you won't get as explosive as you would if you work on that also.Ok, so how's this?

Monday-Plyometrics
Tuesday-Endurance
Wednesday-10 rep range
Thursday-Endurance
Friday-Plyometrics

Plyometric days are 5 sets
Endurance days are 20 sets
10 rep range days are 10 sets

PunchDrunk
07-05-2006, 04:05 PM
Looks okay. Just be sure that you're rested enough for the plyometrics, as they're very demanding and the injury risk will be pretty high. :)

RAESAAD
07-05-2006, 04:11 PM
I agree I needs a variety in me girlz too.

NJFighter91
07-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Looks okay. Just be sure that you're rested enough for the plyometrics, as they're very demanding and the injury risk will be pretty high. :)Thanks a lot man.

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jason100x
07-05-2006, 08:16 PM
Variety is very important to stimulate your muscles and continue to progress in your development. And it's very important to figure out goals of what you wish to accomplish. Do you want to be be very strong, do you want to be extremely fast, do you want to be able to fight every minute of every round in top form? Now, obviously if you competitively you most likely want to have a balance of all of these things and you need to train to balance for all of these aspects.
I train for my own fitness and to be able to defend myself if I have to so I don't have to train as hard necessarily as someone who is aiming to fight professionally. I don't need to spend an hour (or more)in the gym. In fact I do all my working out at home using calisthenics, medicine balls, light dumbells for punching, ab roller and a swiss ball. When I go to my friend's house I hit the heavy bag. Just with that equipment or even less you can achieve alot. Push ups are an excellent tool, I do diamond pushups, hindu pushups, regular pushups, plyometric pushups ( where you push yourself up and clap) and one armed pushups, I just mix it up. Squats are excellent, I do regular bodyweight squats, squats with the medicine ball, hindu squats and (an exercise which has built up my leg strength by a considerable margin just in the last month) one legged squats. I do shadow boxing, just today I did five three minute rounds with 30 seconds of rest between rounds. Some rounds I hold weights in my hands, some rounds I don't just to mix it up.
I've made gains just in the last few months since I discovered the Ross Enamait books and website. I would recommend, with the questions you have, that you checkout www.rosstraining.com about your routine and how you should go about it. There's a forum and there are free articles which give you some perspectives on fitness and give you some sample workouts. His books explain much in the way of working out for aerobic conditioning vs. working out for anaerobic conditioning. All of the books are excellent but I think Infinite Intensity or Never Gymless would be the places to start. II gives you gives you a huge variety of workouts involving weights and NG is more bodyweight and resistance bands. He spends a lot of time explaining how to keep making progress if your workout gains slow down. But just with the forum and free articles you can learn a lot.
I hope that all helps.

NJFighter91
07-05-2006, 08:34 PM
PunchDrunk, did you get the points? Because it doesn't look like my points changed. And I don't know what your points were from before. If you got them, ok, if you didn't, tell me.

PunchDrunk
07-06-2006, 04:02 AM
PunchDrunk, did you get the points? Because it doesn't look like my points changed. And I don't know what your points were from before. If you got them, ok, if you didn't, tell me.

I honestly don't know. It doers look like I've got an awful lot of points, but it's not something that means anything to me, so next time save them for yourself. It's a waste giving them to me. It's the thought that counts though, so thank you, but next time keep 'em. :)