View Full Version : Duran vs. Tszyu


JuicyJuice
06-28-2006, 09:39 PM
What happens?

Azteca
06-28-2006, 09:44 PM
duran by late stoppage.

j
06-29-2006, 01:15 AM
tszyu by ko in 6.

oldgringo
06-29-2006, 09:07 AM
Duran stops him in the mid-late rounds. It'd be vince Phillips-esque.

Left2body
06-29-2006, 09:14 AM
Duran has one of the best beards ever. He didn't get stopped till very late in his career and even then it was at middle wieght. Duran also had great head movement and didn't plod in. The fight would hinge on if Tzu could keep the fight at a distance where he might have the edge or if Duran can keep the fight tight. Although Duran has a good shot even from a distance against a natural 140lber.

K-DOGG
06-29-2006, 02:24 PM
Duran would be in Tszyu's chest, smothering Kostya's power and beating on his ribs at the same time. Duran would get a later round stoppage, IMO; and possibly mid-rounds. Duran could punch at 140.

Azteca
06-29-2006, 05:24 PM
tszyu reminds me somewhat of joe louis. he had a fightplan and stuck to it well, but wasn't the best at improvising extempore within the plan. there have been times through his career where he needed to have a 'changeup pitch' - basically, he needed to at least SOME of the time be able to come forward and apply duran-style pressure better than he did.

too often, if he was forced onto the back foot, he did it somewhat halfheartedly, and was liable to catch counters. he had a tendecny to underuse a superb jab too. when he stuck to his jab more he looked a lot better even in his patchier performances, and then he would equalize with the right hand.

equally, for a guy who was indiscreet and powerful to the body with left hooks, funnily he didn't work much downstairs. certainly not as much as i would like.

duran would outwork him but tszyu may have the cuteness to make duran look less than duran-like. it would be fun while it lasted but duran's intensity prevails.

hellfire508
07-01-2006, 12:02 AM
I think it's a very tough matchup to pick. Tszyu seems to be underrated in the head-to-head sense. 140 is his domain, and I think he could make it his fight. His power was frightening, and I think Duran would attempt to swarm Tszyu. If Tszyu was at his best, he would nail Duran coming in all night with straight lefts and rights. Duran had an excellent chin, and would put some punishment on Tszyu. But I think once Duran had tasted some of Kostya's bombs, he would back off a little, and would attempt to outbox Kostya. Tszyu by decision.

dino
07-01-2006, 12:26 AM
duran by UD..probably would somether tszyu and tszyu wouldnt be able to get his punches off

ferocity
07-01-2006, 02:23 AM
tszyu reminds me somewhat of joe louis. he had a fightplan and stuck to it well, but wasn't the best at improvising extempore within the plan. there have been times through his career where he needed to have a 'changeup pitch' - basically, he needed to at least SOME of the time be able to come forward and apply duran-style pressure better than he did.

too often, if he was forced onto the back foot, he did it somewhat halfheartedly, and was liable to catch counters. he had a tendecny to underuse a superb jab too. when he stuck to his jab more he looked a lot better even in his patchier performances, and then he would equalize with the right hand.

equally, for a guy who was indiscreet and powerful to the body with left hooks, funnily he didn't work much downstairs. certainly not as much as i would like.

duran would outwork him but tszyu may have the cuteness to make duran look less than duran-like. it would be fun while it lasted but duran's intensity prevails.


before the phillips lose tszyu was a terror of a fighter, he was relentless, walked throw a lot of his opponets punchs, but after phillips he was more of a boxer and he used timing a lot to beat a fighter to the put or a jab to set everything up.

but duran v. tzyu, duran is all wrong for tzyu, tzyu had lots of problems with hatton and with duran it'd be worse. Duran woudl muall (sp) him, and pound and pound him. I think he'd get a tko. if the first tszyu showed up (before phillips) it'd be a war of wars but still duran would get a early tko. if the second tzyu showed up(after phillips) i think he'd give more movemnt and angle to duran but i still see a late tko.

do you happen to have tzyu v. hector lopez? I remember this was a war and lopez was a good fighter that a young tzyu fought, i remember this fight just being a war or wars.

McGoorty
07-19-2011, 08:02 AM
tszyu reminds me somewhat of joe louis. he had a fightplan and stuck to it well, but wasn't the best at improvising extempore within the plan. there have been times through his career where he needed to have a 'changeup pitch' - basically, he needed to at least SOME of the time be able to come forward and apply duran-style pressure better than he did.

too often, if he was forced onto the back foot, he did it somewhat halfheartedly, and was liable to catch counters. he had a tendecny to underuse a superb jab too. when he stuck to his jab more he looked a lot better even in his patchier performances, and then he would equalize with the right hand.

equally, for a guy who was indiscreet and powerful to the body with left hooks, funnily he didn't work much downstairs. certainly not as much as i would like.

duran would outwork him but tszyu may have the cuteness to make duran look less than duran-like. it would be fun while it lasted but duran's intensity prevails.
THROUGHOUT THE 90's TSZYU was far and away MY FAVORITE FIGHTER, but the direction his career took after the JUDAH and 2nd MITCHELL fight was a massive disappointment to me, I feel that his incredible inactivity and BAD management team destroyed him, he was pasr his prime when he fought HATTON and it was all needless as he had at least 2 years left of being truly formidable. I was astounded to see him sign with HATTON, a no-win situation, nothing left to prove at 140, I was hoping to see him go up to clinch a Welterweight Title, there were many belts at his mercy, but, he decided to take a year and a half off, MISTAKE. . That was one of the best analysis I've read on TSZYU by the way, it brought up some new TSZYU angles I havn't thought of before, Great.

hebi
07-19-2011, 11:49 AM
THROUGHOUT THE 90's TSZYU was far and away MY FAVORITE FIGHTER, but the direction his career took after the JUDAH and 2nd MITCHELL fight was a massive disappointment to me, I feel that his incredible inactivity and BAD management team destroyed him, he was pasr his prime when he fought HATTON and it was all needless as he had at least 2 years left of being truly formidable. I was astounded to see him sign with HATTON, a no-win situation, nothing left to prove at 140, I was hoping to see him go up to clinch a Welterweight Title, there were many belts at his mercy, but, he decided to take a year and a half off, MISTAKE. . That was one of the best analysis I've read on TSZYU by the way, it brought up some new TSZYU angles I havn't thought of before, Great.

Tszyu was my favorite as well, and yeah it was a shame it seemed like he could have done a lot more in the sport. I feel that when Tszyu fought Hatton, he still had his timing and precision at a very high level, he just didn't have the freshness for such a grueling fight. I really wish he could have gotten a shot at one of the big names.

As to the topic, Azteca made a great post and I agree with his assessment.