A talentless bum. I think this dude is a tool for the UFC to draw fans. The UFC will continue to pay him well and parade him for this very reason. He is slow and has zero skills. Dude moves around the ring like he is holding back a poop. According to him if one defeats him any other way than standing, it is not a real win because he continually challenges people stating that they will get knocked out. This is a nice underhanded way to discredit a fighter. Rampage busted him up and I don't know why he is proud of his win against Randy; he has never done to anyone what Randy has done to him; embarass, humiliate, and break him. He got his bootae handed to him on a plattter. Boz was even hesistant to bet on him in the rematch. I think Vitor could have beaten him. Many people simply allow the hype to overpower them: Chucks striking, his powerful punches, and his "best takedown defense in MMA", Paleaze. Anyone with the will can turn Chuck Liddell canned ham. Since he thinks he can beat anyone, Dana should put him against AA so AA can bust him up.

so its settled. u must fite him to show how much of a shitty fighter he is. . this is the only way we will ever know for sure how badd he stinks. so talk to dana white and let me know when the fights gonna be. cant wait to see whos gonna get there ass handed to him first or better yet simply just knocked the fuk out. ..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I do however have the right to criticize just as one can appreciate, but dumbasses like yourself pull this same stupid comment everytime someone let's it role. I do not need to prove shit! So I guess I just scored a knock against you. :cool:

I do however have the right to criticize just as one can appreciate, but dumbasses like yourself pull this same stupid comment everytime someone let's it role. I do not need to prove shit! So I guess I just scored a knock against you. :cool:

wow. weakest fukin attempt of a comeback i ever heard. uh ,ok sure whatever u say.

A talentless bum. I think this dude is a tool for the UFC to draw fans. The UFC will continue to pay him well and parade him for this very reason. He is slow and has zero skills. Dude moves around the ring like he is holding back a poop. According to him if one defeats him any other way than standing, it is not a real win because he continually challenges people stating that they will get knocked out. This is a nice underhanded way to discredit a fighter. Rampage busted him up and I don't know why he is proud of his win against Randy; he has never done to anyone what Randy has done to him; embarass, humiliate, and break him. He got his bootae handed to him on a plattter. Boz was even hesistant to bet on him in the rematch. I think Vitor could have beaten him. Many people simply allow the hype to overpower them: Chucks striking, his powerful punches, and his "best takedown defense in MMA", Paleaze. Anyone with the will can turn Chuck Liddell canned ham. Since he thinks he can beat anyone, Dana should put him against AA so AA can bust him up.


wow. use a paragraph for christ sakes. actually on second thought shut the **** up. it would save people from reading this bullshit

A talentless bum. I think this dude is a tool for the UFC to draw fans. The UFC will continue to pay him well and parade him for this very reason. He is slow and has zero skills. Dude moves around the ring like he is holding back a poop. According to him if one defeats him any other way than standing, it is not a real win because he continually challenges people stating that they will get knocked out. This is a nice underhanded way to discredit a fighter. Rampage busted him up and I don't know why he is proud of his win against Randy; he has never done to anyone what Randy has done to him; embarass, humiliate, and break him. He got his bootae handed to him on a plattter. Boz was even hesistant to bet on him in the rematch. I think Vitor could have beaten him. Many people simply allow the hype to overpower them: Chucks striking, his powerful punches, and his "best takedown defense in MMA", Paleaze. Anyone with the will can turn Chuck Liddell canned ham. Since he thinks he can beat anyone, Dana should put him against AA so AA can bust him up.

huh? i'm not a Chuck fan at all, but to say that he has no skills is discrediting him more than need be. he works his game in the octagon better than most. he uses the cage to benefits, and makes the other person play his game. it's a great psychological fight. his sprawl is really good and i don't remember the last time he was taken down (it was prolly against Rampage). he has KO power and decent accuracy.

there's no way in hell Dana is gonna put him up against Arlovski. first off they're in different weight classes. not to say that Arlovski couldn't go down to fight Chuck, or vice versa, but that ain't happening. you have a better chance of seeing Vera vs Chuck. next up, Chuck has a punchers chance. he could KO Arlovski if Arlovski isn't careful. vice versa applies here as well, but i don't think that Chuck has gone up against any good strikers. but whose chin is more suspect? considering that Arlovski just got knocked out, people will prolly say him.

i know you don't like him, but you gotta respect the man for what he's done so far.

wow. weakest fukin attempt of a comeback i ever heard. uh ,ok sure whatever u say.

because just like a punk you want to deny. I guess you must have used the same logic that you did in your first attempt. It's ok, delude yourself and continue to remain confident. He who never recognizes the truth will always have to answer to it.

wow. use a paragraph for christ sakes. actually on second thought shut the **** up. it would save people from reading this bullshit
Maybe you should learn how to use syntax or better yet shut "da" **** up and post a picture of your ass as it would be better looking than your face.

huh? i know you don't like him, but you gotta respect the man for what he's done so far.

What has Chuck done? He once accused Ortiz of being boring but he is a snoozer. All Chuck does is jab and lean in with a hard right. When he gets taken down he will brace against the fence and stand up, who can't? Try pulling that shit in Pride. People are just intimidated by him. I recognize Chucks moves and that is why I'm tellin' ya he's a bum.

What has Chuck done? He once accused Ortiz of being boring but he is a snoozer. All Chuck does is jab and lean in with a hard right. When he gets taken down he will brace against the fence and stand up, who can't? Try pulling that shit in Pride. People are just intimidated by him. I recognize Chucks moves and that is why I'm tellin' ya he's a bum.

he did try that in pride and was successful against a very good opponent in Alistair Overjeem. He just happen to run into one of the 3 guys at MW at the time who could beat him in Rampage Jackson

you are really retarded... first he does have good take down defense, he wrestled for years and he was a good wrestler. second if everyone could use the cage to block the take down then why is he pretty much the only one that can do it? i dont see a lot of other fighters able to not be taken down like chuck. third boxing is boxing, he is good enough to knock out almost every person he has gone up against. if he wasnt then how the hell is he knocking people out. fourth you were talking about vitor... he knocked him down and won. and last, pride has different rules, chuck doesnt have great endurance, and you are a dumbass.

What has Chuck done? He once accused Ortiz of being boring but he is a snoozer. All Chuck does is jab and lean in with a hard right. When he gets taken down he will brace against the fence and stand up, who can't? Try pulling that shit in Pride. People are just intimidated by him. I recognize Chucks moves and that is why I'm tellin' ya he's a bum.

he also knocked Tito the **** out. he's avenged every loss he's had in the UFC (only two). i already said it, the guy works his game well enough that people have to play it. and you're right it won't work in PRIDE cause there's no cage. he's has a winning record in PRIDE. he's 2-1 with wins over Mezger and Overeem, while i think the Overeem of today would stand a better chance against Chuck, Rampage showed Chuck what he didn't have. since then Chuck has won 5 straight. and not against any real cans.

i recognize most of Chuck's repertoire too, it's jab, low kick, overhand right, sprawl and punch flurry. just because you can recognize the moves doesn't correlate to anyway of him being a bum. you have an opinion and you're entitled to it. but having an opinion doesn't mean it's the truth.

he also knocked Tito the **** out. he's avenged every loss he's had in the UFC (only two). just because you can recognize the moves doesn't correlate to anyway of him being a bum. you have an opinion and you're entitled to it. but having an opinion doesn't mean it's the truth.
Tito stood there and took it. Horn could have took him out but like I said before these dudes don't fight the fight they believe the hype. I recognize his moves to know that he is an athlete without much skill. He has displayed very little in the ring because he chooses to and I can surmise why. If the ***** wants to box send his ass elsewhere and let him stand up with some real heat. He is no GSP, Randy Couture, or Vitor Belfort; he's a one dimensional athlete. The dude above you even said Chuck does not have endurance, and he didn't beat Belfort by KO. I can ****ing throw punches. It's been said numerous times and you have even acknowledged it that anyone has a punchers chance. You can learn from him how to beat him but he is nothing.

Have you also noticed that Chuck looks like he might be pregnant and could possibly deliver an alien baby? :D

Tito stood there and took it. Horn could have took him out but like I said before these dudes don't fight the fight they believe the hype. I recognize his moves to know that he is an athlete without much skill. He has displayed very little in the ring because he chooses to and I can surmise why. If the ***** wants to box send his ass elsewhere and let him stand up with some real heat. He is no GSP, Randy Couture, or Vitor Belfort; he's a one dimensional athlete. The dude above you even said Chuck does not have endurance, and he didn't beat Belfort by KO. I can ****ing throw punches. It's been said numerous times and you have even acknowledged it that anyone has a punchers chance. You can learn from him how to beat him but he is nothing.

Have you also noticed that Chuck looks like he might be pregnant and could possibly deliver an alien baby? :D

and once again , ignorance speaks. i fukin luv it. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:

Tito stood there and took it. Horn could have took him out but like I said before these dudes don't fight the fight they believe the hype. I recognize his moves to know that he is an athlete without much skill. He has displayed very little in the ring because he chooses to and I can surmise why. If the ***** wants to box send his ass elsewhere and let him stand up with some real heat. He is no GSP, Randy Couture, or Vitor Belfort; he's a one dimensional athlete. The dude above you even said Chuck does not have endurance, and he didn't beat Belfort by KO. I can ****ing throw punches. It's been said numerous times and you have even acknowledged it that anyone has a punchers chance. You can learn from him how to beat him but he is nothing.

Have you also noticed that Chuck looks like he might be pregnant and could possibly deliver an alien baby? :D


that makes no sense at all. why would Tito want to stand there and take it? Horn tried his best to take Chuck down and got stuffed for about 4 rounds. everyone in the UFC has an incentive to win. money. why would Tito get his ass beat in a half ass attempt at a match? just to get paid? Tito was the most recognizable star the UFC had at the time. he had everything to gain by beating Chuck, but he didn't.

psychology is a part of the game. if the opponent falls for it, that's on them. if you want to see a ground fight you really should watch a Dean Lister match. and i wouldn't even bring up Vitor, that guy has won 1 of his last 5. and the guy he won over wasn't up to par of the other 4 guys. not to discredit Jason Rea. GSP has proven himself as a welterweight contender. Randy was beaten by Chuck in the rubber match. not very good people to use as examples. Vitor hasn't done anything with his hype, GSP is in a different weight class and a different type of fighter and Randy was beaten by Chuck.

you're right i did say he has a strikers chance. the thing is, he sets up his shots and works his game. that in itself is a pretty big skill. he works everything off his jab and his sprawl. just cause he doesn't go to the ground doesn't mean that he can't.

to say he doesn't have much skill is to say that you could take him out. to say that he doesn't have much skill also says that everyone else in Chuck's weight class on the UFC roster isn't very talented. and by saying that you can stand there and punch means you can take out the guys that Chuck has beaten. good luck trying to get out of an armbar when Sobral locks it in, or when Overeem goes for the guillotine, and you better hope that Randleman doesn't decide to try to suplex you like he did to Fedor.

you have an opinion and you don't like the guy. that's fine. but to discredit him on a forum is being a computer gangsta. talk a lot of shit til the person you're talkin shit about gets in your face. i'd love to see you go up against Chuck in the ring.

yah the guy above me said that he doesn't have endurance. i think Chuck disproved that point when he went 4 rounds with Horn. but i do have to agree with the other thing that the guy above me said you are a dumbass.

What has Chuck done? He once accused Ortiz of being boring but he is a snoozer. All Chuck does is jab and lean in with a hard right. When he gets taken down he will brace against the fence and stand up, who can't? Try pulling that shit in Pride. People are just intimidated by him. I recognize Chucks moves and that is why I'm tellin' ya he's a bum.


What has Chuck done???? You can't be serious. Lets see, he is 2-1 in Pride, with KO wins over Mezger and Overeem. In IVC he beat Pele. In the IFC he KO'ed Steve HEath with a kick to the head. In NG 11 he submitted Ken Williams with a rear naked choke. In the UFC he has KO'ed or TKO'ed Paul Jones, Kevin Randlemen, Renato Sobral, Tito Ortiz, Randy Coutre (2x) Jeremy Horn, and Vernon White.

He has also beaten Belfort, Jeff Monson, Murilo Bustamante, Amar Suloev, Noe Hernandez.


Look at the list of fighters he has fought. Name one top notch fighter that comes close to who he has fought.

The only time Horn tried to take him down was as a reaction to being hit.

I was comparing the other fighters to Chuck not against him. These fighters are more well rounded and versatile. Like I said, Chuck should step into the boxing ring and feel some real heat. He is slow, predictable, and boring. I am judging Chuck in his discipline and not against an opponent. If I was playing the UFC game I would never pick him as a fighter.

To say he doesn't have much skill is just that. If it was was anything else then no one could comment or criticize any work of art or what not.

I have my opinion and I don't like the guy; he is a proud winner and a poor loser and that may be why he is not humble; he only wants to pat people oon their heads. I would surmise the aforementioned is just Chuck trying to play it cool when he is embarassed. Though Chuck claims that Tito is a punk I would say the same of him. Yeah, and one day my little cousin kicked me in the balls and too me out.

I think you should reassess your statements because you could be deceiving yourself with you analysis.

and once again , ignorance speaks. i fukin luv it. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:
What amazes me is how you have nothing to say that is of any value but just like a punk all you have are one liners. Maybe you should take off that icon and allow your words to define you as Unit has done.

What has Chuck done???? You can't be serious. Lets see, he is 2-1 in Pride, with KO wins over Mezger and Overeem. In IVC he beat Pele. In the IFC he KO'ed Steve HEath with a kick to the head. In NG 11 he submitted Ken Williams with a rear naked choke. In the UFC he has KO'ed or TKO'ed Paul Jones, Kevin Randlemen, Renato Sobral, Tito Ortiz, Randy Coutre (2x) Jeremy Horn, and Vernon White.

He has also beaten Belfort, Jeff Monson, Murilo Bustamante, Amar Suloev, Noe Hernandez.


Look at the list of fighters he has fought. Name one top notch fighter that comes close to who he has fought.
Yes, Chuck has beatin many opponents but I am contending Chuck as skilled martial artist. To me he is possibly the most boring one in all of MMA. Like many others I believe that he does not fight the people he needs to, which would make for a more interesting match up and probably bring out the best in Chuck Liddell.

He's a one dimensional fighter with a good chin, sprawl and ko power. and that's it.

A "bum" is too much though.

Liddell is the single most boring fighter in MMA today.. Go watch horn/liddell 2 let me konw what round you fall asleep in..

Chuck fought a very smart fight against Horn. But I shouldn't expect you to know that. Chuck lost to Jeremy back in the day. Chuck stood back and waited for Jeermy to come in. Jeremy can roll on the ground against anybody and only a fool would rush in on him. Chuck is ther to win, first and formost, and then entertain the fans.

He's a one dimensional fighter with a good chin, sprawl and ko power. and that's it.

A "bum" is too much though.



Wandy Silva is the same. Dan Henderson. Cro Cop. Mark Hunt. Are you saying the same things about them, or you just busting on the UFC??

thank you zep, thats what i am saying. everyone compares ufc and pride. fighters are fighters! you will have fighters that fight the same style in pride, ufc, and all the other mma groups.

Chuck fought a very smart fight against Horn. But I shouldn't expect you to know that. Chuck lost to Jeremy back in the day. Chuck stood back and waited for Jeermy to come in. Jeremy can roll on the ground against anybody and only a fool would rush in on him. Chuck is ther to win, first and formost, and then entertain the fans.

Horn was out on his ffeeet half the fight.. the only reason liddell fights may SEEM exciting is because of his opponent pressing the action.. Take the couture fights. when did chuck make any attempt to advance on his opponent?? randy was constantly advancing.. Liddell/ortiz One of the shittiest fights ever with exception to the KO.. Lidell is lame plain and simple..

If his opponents don't press the fight the fight is usually dragged out..
Your telling me that was reasonable for chuck to finish horn in the 4th??

He had the chance to TKO him in the 1st second and third.. I was laughing at how pathetic it truly was..

P.S
chuck is their to fight and engage his opponent. not poke peeps in the eyes and back peddle the entire fight.. any moron can do that..

Wanderlei silva(many others) seems to have no problem winning with forward aggression.. silva is even taking on TOP Hw's, that's a true fighter..

Name one 40yr old fighter wanderlei has fought??
Cant do it can ya?? His competition is and has been top notch.. the same can't be said for liddell.. After all he fougth that same 40yr old man 3x then beat up on lil jeremy horn who hasn't fought TOP competition in some time..

Since your new to MMA i just thought i would enlighten you a little.

that makes no sense at all. why would Tito want to stand there and take it? Horn tried his best to take Chuck down and got stuffed for about 4 rounds. everyone in the UFC has an incentive to win. money. why would Tito get his ass beat in a half ass attempt at a match? just to get paid? Tito was the most recognizable star the UFC had at the time. he had everything to gain by beating Chuck, but he didn't.

psychology is a part of the game. if the opponent falls for it, that's on them. if you want to see a ground fight you really should watch a Dean Lister match. and i wouldn't even bring up Vitor, that guy has won 1 of his last 5. and the guy he won over wasn't up to par of the other 4 guys. not to discredit Jason Rea. GSP has proven himself as a welterweight contender. Randy was beaten by Chuck in the rubber match. not very good people to use as examples. Vitor hasn't done anything with his hype, GSP is in a different weight class and a different type of fighter and Randy was beaten by Chuck.

you're right i did say he has a strikers chance. the thing is, he sets up his shots and works his game. that in itself is a pretty big skill. he works everything off his jab and his sprawl. just cause he doesn't go to the ground doesn't mean that he can't.

to say he doesn't have much skill is to say that you could take him out. to say that he doesn't have much skill also says that everyone else in Chuck's weight class on the UFC roster isn't very talented. and by saying that you can stand there and punch means you can take out the guys that Chuck has beaten. good luck trying to get out of an armbar when Sobral locks it in, or when Overeem goes for the guillotine, and you better hope that Randleman doesn't decide to try to suplex you like he did to Fedor.

you have an opinion and you don't like the guy. that's fine. but to discredit him on a forum is being a computer gangsta. talk a lot of shit til the person you're talkin shit about gets in your face. i'd love to see you go up against Chuck in the ring.

yah the guy above me said that he doesn't have endurance. i think Chuck disproved that point when he went 4 rounds with Horn. but i do have to agree with the other thing that the guy above me said

very well stated . :cool:

he also knocked Tito the **** out. he's avenged every loss he's had in the UFC (only two). i already said it, the guy works his game well enough that people have to play it. and you're right it won't work in PRIDE cause there's no cage. he's has a winning record in PRIDE. he's 2-1 with wins over Mezger and Overeem, while i think the Overeem of today would stand a better chance against Chuck, Rampage showed Chuck what he didn't have. since then Chuck has won 5 straight. and not against any real cans.

i recognize most of Chuck's repertoire too, it's jab, low kick, overhand right, sprawl and punch flurry. just because you can recognize the moves doesn't correlate to anyway of him being a bum. you have an opinion and you're entitled to it. but having an opinion doesn't mean it's the truth.

Chuck is not a bum...