EXCLUSIVE Trinidad KO'S De La Hoya Fight!
By G. Leon

Tito-DLH II, Nothing More Than A Dead Issue!

October 05, 2004 - After speaking with Don Felix Trinidad Sr. for over an hour, ********** can be the first to assure you that Trinidad-De La Hoya II is DEFINITELY NOT an option for Trinidad. In fact it's not even a discussion. According to Papa Trinidad, "Tito will be embarrassed fighting a guy who lost his last three fights! What can a guy like that do for Tito's legacy in boxing? We're not here to rip the fans off, we appreciate our fans and the people who spend their hard earned money to watch these fights. Why should we defraud the public for a guy that basically quit?" Members don't want to miss what else Papa Trinidad had to say in tomorrow's exclusive interview. Remember when Don Felix talks, "it's the same as Tito Trinidad speaking," as Tito recently told **********.com.

lmao
man they that scared of facing DLH again?

EXCLUSIVE Trinidad KO'S De La Hoya Fight!
By G. Leon

Tito-DLH II, Nothing More Than A Dead Issue!

October 05, 2004 - After speaking with Don Felix Trinidad Sr. for over an hour, ********** can be the first to assure you that Trinidad-De La Hoya II is DEFINITELY NOT an option for Trinidad. In fact it's not even a discussion. According to Papa Trinidad, "Tito will be embarrassed fighting a guy who lost his last three fights! What can a guy like that do for Tito's legacy in boxing? We're not here to rip the fans off, we appreciate our fans and the people who spend their hard earned money to watch these fights. Why should we defraud the public for a guy that basically quit?" Members don't want to miss what else Papa Trinidad had to say in tomorrow's exclusive interview. Remember when Don Felix talks, "it's the same as Tito Trinidad speaking," as Tito recently told **********.com.

If they weren't interested in the fight, I don't know if they would be going out of their way to insult Oscar.

This sounds like pre-fight hype to me.

I'd like to see Trinidad take on a Raul Marquez or some other tough veteran before he schedules his next p4p opponent. Give Hopkins a chance to defend his belt one more time, then go after him. In the meantime, a Marquez or a Joppy rematch or maybe Maselino Masoe.

If they weren't interested in the fight, I don't know if they would be going out of their way to insult Oscar.

This sounds like pre-fight hype to me.

I'd like to see Trinidad take on a Raul Marquez or some other tough veteran before he schedules his next p4p opponent. Give Hopkins a chance to defend his belt one more time, then go after him. In the meantime, a Marquez or a Joppy rematch or maybe Maselino Masoe.


Hopkins is closing a deal with sturm...I see no reason for tito to fight marquez, I say put sturm against hopkins and tito against taylor and then the winners go at it...

I know Hopkins is fighting in Jan., that's why I said he should let Bernard have his title defense and fight someone else in the meantime. I don't think it's a good fight for Taylor at this time. He needs a few guys a step up from Bunema but not in the Trinidad class to gain experiences and confidence. Tito should take a tune-up. If he fought Masoe, he would hold a belt, though Hopkins would be super-champ of that organization, and 'Nard could pride himself in being truly "undisputed". That is until the WBA stripped him again...

Oscar won the first fight, i dont care if the lord Jesus Christ tells me different. I am not an Oscar fan, i just know what i saw. You dont lose a fight running the last 3 rounds when you won AT LEAST 8 of the first 9. I would respect Tito more if he didnt try to act like he won that fight. He acts like he conquered DLH.

Oscar won the first fight, i dont care if the lord Jesus Christ tells me different. I am not an Oscar fan, i just know what i saw. You dont lose a fight running the last 3 rounds when you won AT LEAST 8 of the first 9. I would respect Tito more if he didnt try to act like he won that fight. He acts like he conquered DLH.

Good post. I pretty much agree.

****in Tito And His ****face Dad Scared Tha **** Out Of Dlh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oscar won the first fight, i dont care if the lord Jesus Christ tells me different. I am not an Oscar fan, i just know what i saw. You dont lose a fight running the last 3 rounds when you won AT LEAST 8 of the first 9. I would respect Tito more if he didnt try to act like he won that fight. He acts like he conquered DLH.


exactly man
that's tha one and only reason i despise tito so much
i like everythin else bout him but for that reason i ****in hate him sooooooo much
that pisses me off
he didnt beat tha golden boy he took a beating
and he robbed tha golden boy

TheGreatest, that is THE funniest post i have ever seen. Thanks. haha

Oscar won the first fight, i dont care if the lord Jesus Christ tells me different. I am not an Oscar fan, i just know what i saw. You dont lose a fight running the last 3 rounds when you won AT LEAST 8 of the first 9. I would respect Tito more if he didnt try to act like he won that fight. He acts like he conquered DLH.

The interview with don trinidad at ********** covers this topic and I truly believe it isnt a form of saying **** you you arent worthy of fighting us and you are not a big fight for us is pretty idiotic considering a few months back they even stated that tito wants the big money fights and now it isnt anything about money but big money fights...It also came across to me that they are even scared of dlh, and avoiding him completely....

Tito looked impressive saturday it is true, but mayorga was tailor made for tito, put him in with a mover who boxes and tito would look like mayorga....Felix doesnt handle movers well and dlh and hopkins both move.


Taylor needs to **** or get off the top it is as simple as that, I was a big fan of his seeing him fight 4 times and win his wbc continental titles but this bull****ting around the bush has gone on to damn long and he isnt even lining a matchup next.....

I want taylor fighting ikeke/eastman/sturm/hopkins/trinidad...It's time for Jermain to step it up.....Throw taylor in with vargas as far as I am concerned I just want him to fight a damn good fighter.....

The interview with don trinidad at ********** covers this topic and I truly believe it isnt a form of saying **** you you arent worthy of fighting us and you are not a big fight for us is pretty idiotic considering a few months back they even stated that tito wants the big money fights and now it isnt anything about money but big money fights...It also came across to me that they are even scared of dlh, and avoiding him completely....

Tito looked impressive saturday it is true, but mayorga was tailor made for tito, put him in with a mover who boxes and tito would look like mayorga....Felix doesnt handle movers well and dlh and hopkins both move.


Taylor needs to **** or get off the top it is as simple as that, I was a big fan of his seeing him fight 4 times and win his wbc continental titles but this bull****ting around the bush has gone on to damn long and he isnt even lining a matchup next.....

I want taylor fighting ikeke/eastman/sturm/hopkins/trinidad...It's time for Jermain to step it up.....Throw taylor in with vargas as far as I am concerned I just want him to fight a damn good fighter.....

I've heard Taylor is working on an opponent for Dec. 4 and one name being tossed around is Eastman. Can't remember what site I saw that on...

tito been running from dlh for a long time b4 dlh fought sturm and hopkins, tito said in an interview hes not giving dlh a rematch, but begs for the hopkins rematch. dlh doesnt help titos legacy? if he fights him and beats his ass he would shut every1 up about the 1st fight and if he takes a tune up it will prove hes scare, he said hes trying to build hes legacy higher, your not going to accomplish it by beating up tune ups. besides middleweight is not dlh's weight

p4p-good point about the legacy ordeal...One quick note though, trinidad said he wants no tune-ups he needs none because he is a big name fighter and wants to fight big names, I want to see him destroy everyone in his wrecking ball path and not fight one bum either...I want to see what tito is made of, props to him for destroying mayorga but mayorga left everything at 147 and is more one dimensional then felix trinidad is.


neils-just watched an interview with lou dibella, it is good to hear him trash talk taylor sort of, he practically said jerman needs to step it up in the next couple of fights and then he would be ready for hopkins (how conveinent though taylor takes 6 months to fight and in a fight or 2 be ready for hopkins, when hopkins will be out not to far from now....


Dibella said jermain will also be fighting William Joppy on December 4, good fight I will give credit. I like joppy as a fighter great fighter, has a powerful jab to match taylors and might be just as fast and packs a punch...But considering Joppy has been off for over a year and battling legal problems and all that mumbo jumbo it still solves nothing in my point of view.....

p4p-good point about the legacy ordeal...One quick note though, trinidad said he wants no tune-ups he needs none because he is a big name fighter and wants to fight big names, I want to see him destroy everyone in his wrecking ball path and not fight one bum either...I want to see what tito is made of, props to him for destroying mayorga but mayorga left everything at 147 and is more one dimensional then felix trinidad is.


neils-just watched an interview with lou dibella, it is good to hear him trash talk taylor sort of, he practically said jerman needs to step it up in the next couple of fights and then he would be ready for hopkins (how conveinent though taylor takes 6 months to fight and in a fight or 2 be ready for hopkins, when hopkins will be out not to far from now....


Dibella said jermain will also be fighting William Joppy on December 4, good fight I will give credit. I like joppy as a fighter great fighter, has a powerful jab to match taylors and might be just as fast and packs a punch...But considering Joppy has been off for over a year and battling legal problems and all that mumbo jumbo it still solves nothing in my point of view.....

Joppy's still a step up. People forget how young Taylor is. The Jeff Lacys winning belts after 18 pro fights aren't the norm. I think we get too anxious with fighters sometime. Then there's the other extreme - but I won't name any names because everytime I do that certain Englishman jumps on me.

Joppy's still a step up. People forget how young Taylor is. The Jeff Lacys winning belts after 18 pro fights aren't the norm. I think we get too anxious with fighters sometime. Then there's the other extreme - but I won't name any names because everytime I do that certain Englishman jumps on me.


True joppy was a former champion but I am anxiously awaiting taylor to fight an active middleweight.....Felix Sturm vs Jermain Taylor would be a war and if any of them wants big fights and want to make a name for themselves they need to fight, Once tito/dlh/hopkins is gone we really have no great middleweights....However this fight might take years to make!

I like taylor and try to give him credit but he always fights fighters who are inactive.

They dont want anything to do with DLH, they know they got a gift the 1st time out.

They dont want anything to do with DLH, they know they got a gift the 1st time out.


hell ya bro

exactly man
that's tha one and only reason i despise tito so much
i like everythin else bout him but for that reason i ****in hate him sooooooo much
that pisses me off
he didnt beat tha golden boy he took a beating
and he robbed tha golden boy

Are you 11 years old or retarded??? It's gotta be one or the other.

Yes, Tito put a gun to the judges' heads and forced them to score the fight like crap. He also told Oscar if he didn't run like a ***** in the final four rounds, he would have his family killed.

Bad decision? Absolutely.

Tito's fault?? You're a dumbass. :)

its not tito's fault, but the way he talks about that fight. he acts like he conquered delahoya, and for that, although im a fan of his, i kind of resent it. he is not being truthful to himself.

You're totally entitled to your opinion on that matter, but to say that "Tito robbed Oscar" is just poppy****. Poppy****, I say.

You're totally entitled to your opinion on that matter, but to say that "Tito robbed Oscar" is just poppy****. Poppy****, I say.


Yeah, i must have missed whoever said tito robbed oscar. i just cant believe how much credit he gives himself for it. that's all

Once tito/dlh/hopkins is gone we really have no great middleweights....
De La Hoya LOST both his fights at middleweight, even though the judges gave him the first one. Feel free to call him a great Welterweight, but "Great" and "Middleweight" don't belong in the same sentence as "Oscar De La Hoya", unless you're saying something like:

"Oscar De La Hoya was given a gift in the decision against possible future great Middleweight Felix Sturm"

or

"After 7 boring rounds, action picked up in the 8th, then Oscar De La Hoya was KOd by the great Middleweight Champion Bernard Hopkins in the 9th"

Back on topic, I honestly don't think there is a compelling reason, except money, for Tito to fight DLH at middleweight. Sure, Oscar can move, but it would make for a boring fight, and if Tito did catch him, DLH would be KOd again.
The choice is basically, DLH running and throwing light tap flurries in the last 5 seconds or him standing and fighting Tito and getting KOd. As much as I would like to see DLH KOd, I don't think I would plunk down $60 to see it.
DLH has already proven that he can't carry the weight at 160. People say he showed balls in standing in against Hopkins, but I honestly believe that he stood in because he would have become exhausted trying to move as he did earlier in his career. I have nothing to back that opinion up, but it's just an opinion.

i personally would like to see hopkins vs sturm and maybe jermain taylor fight tito or even howard eastman

i think eastman can throw a few of these guys some problems, i think he owuld be harder to brake down

he does get put on his arse a lot like but always seems to win, he needs a serious challenge and fight in america

i personally would like to see hopkins vs sturm and maybe jermain taylor fight tito or even howard eastman

i think eastman can throw a few of these guys some problems, i think he owuld be harder to brake down

he does get put on his arse a lot like but always seems to win, he needs a serious challenge and fight in america

If Sturm is beaten handily by Hopkins, he may be a middleweight "flash in the pan." If he looks good, even in defeat, he'll likely retain a high ranking and get some more fights against big American names. I'd like to see him vs. Taylor within the next couple years.

Sturm will give Hopkins trouble in the first 3-4 rounds with his speed, jab, and movement. Look for Felix to win the first 4 rounds as B-hop is notorious for starting slow. After that, he will have a hard time getting back on top of the mountain, but he will still pull out a SD over Sturm. It will be controvercial, tho. People will say it was given to him so that he could fight Tito in a rematch because there was some sort of verbal agreement, same as with DLH when he got the gift decision against Sturm.

Sturm, the two-time scape goat.

Remember where you read it first!

Eastman deserves a title shot or a 'name', I'd like to see Tito against him, he's a legit top 5 middleweight contender so why not.
He wouldn't beat Tito or X but does deserve a chance.
Sturm would lose to X on points , he would maybe give a little trouble at the start but Bernard would 'old man' him out of the fight, far too seasoned in my opinion.
I'd like to see Tito vs DLH II maybe at catchweight of 158 or 157, and I think Tito would redeem himself and stop DLH, he killed himself to make 147 and I think that showed in his last few fights at that weight, also take into account DLH IS only a blown up welter so should never be fighting higher than 155 - 156 and he's past his prime, I think he's considerably slower nowadays and Tito would not struggle to find him like he did in their first fight.
Shame Mayorga's retiring too, I loved watching him fight and his build up crap, remind me of Toney with all his trash talking, totally full of **** as far as i'm concerned, it just used to make me smile

If Sturm is beaten handily by Hopkins, he may be a middleweight "flash in the pan." If he looks good, even in defeat, he'll likely retain a high ranking and get some more fights against big American names. I'd like to see him vs. Taylor within the next couple years.


Didnt sturm dominate taylor in the amateurs?

I know the amateurs is different from the pros case and point cotto vs pinto, but I think felix has had better opposition then jermain and would probably pull out a decision....Felix has had more experience then jermain although both are very green however whenever this matchup comes to fruition (if it does) will greatly depend on the outcome.

I agree this could just be hype from the Trinidad camp to try to squeeze more money from DLH if they were to fight, but i have to say I agree with Papa Trinidad.

We all know what would happen if Tito was to fight Oscar and win. People would be saying exactly what Papa is saying. All the haters would come out with their bull**** and say, Oscar lost his last 3 fights!!, he lost to Sturm, he got KOed by a body shot from Hopkins, hes old!, and all that ****. If Tito did fight Oscar and win no one would give him any credit, so whats the point of taking the fight after Oscars last 3 performances.

Saying that, people will have the smae type of bull**** excuses if he ever beats Bernard.

I agree this could just be hype from the Trinidad camp to try to squeeze more money from DLH if they were to fight, but i have to say I agree with Papa Trinidad.

We all know what would happen if Tito was to fight Oscar and win. People would be saying exactly what Papa is saying. All the haters would come out with their bull**** and say, Oscar lost his last 3 fights!!, he lost to Sturm, he got KOed by a body shot from Hopkins, hes old!, and all that ****. If Tito did fight Oscar and win no one would give him any credit, so whats the point of taking the fight after Oscars last 3 performances.

Saying that, people will have the smae type of bull**** excuses if he ever beats Bernard.

You are probably the only one here that gives Trinidad the respect he deserves. That's very cool. Regardless of the first Trinidad-DLH fight(I scored it 114-114 by the way),DLH has not done anything impressive in years. Why should Trinidad be so worried about getting DLH now. What's the emergency? DLH was a great fighter but he stopped being one the moment he left welter.
He has not done anything world class since beating a slightly shot Fernando Vargas.

Well said...still I would like to see Tito vs DLH @160, DLH cann't stand in front of tito like he did to hop..he would get KO. That would be so sweet! :D

he cant stay in front of tito like he did to hopkins? last time i checked hopkins was a bigger stronger fighter than tito. if they do fight again all dlh has to do box like he did last time and dont **** up the last 3 rounds and ur precious trinidad will get his ass kicked again.

thats funny Tito isn;t scared of DLH he beat him and DLH lost a bunch of fights hes washed up. Tito see's this and relizes that his career will not be helped by beating him yet again its basically a waste of time.

thats funny Tito isn;t scared of DLH he beat him and DLH lost a bunch of fights hes washed up. Tito see's this and relizes that his career will not be helped by beating him yet again its basically a waste of time.

Nice avatar. Rick's not going to like it though

You are probably the only one here that gives Trinidad the respect he deserves. That's very cool. Regardless of the first Trinidad-DLH fight(I scored it 114-114 by the way),DLH has not done anything impressive in years. Why should Trinidad be so worried about getting DLH now. What's the emergency? DLH was a great fighter but he stopped being one the moment he left welter.
He has not done anything world class since beating a slightly shot Fernando Vargas.


I give Tito all the respect in the world myself. He simply didnt win that fight, that's all. I dont see a point to Tito/Oscar II since Tito NEEDS Bernard.

DLh was KO by B-Hop via bodyshot, will everyfighter he now faces attack to the body the whole fight? (like Tarver vs jones,in which Glen Johnson did with Jones the whole fight, stayed close and never stopped punching) DLH can take a punch,in the last 3 rounds of the DLH vs Trinidad fight, tito landed some nice punches that would have put down just about anyone. @ 160 this would be a great fight,Being that Oscar comes in in top shape like he did in the Hopkins fight.