View Full Version : In Hawaii, I asked if they were Filipino. They said "No. We are Ilocano!"


SnoopySmurf
06-16-2006, 09:44 AM
Why? Ilicanos ARE Filipinos. Why do some Ilocanos feel that they are not Filipinos?

edmendoza101
06-16-2006, 09:53 AM
Why? Ilicanos ARE Filipinos. Why do some Ilocanos feel that they are not Filipinos?



Dictator mentality!
:D :D :D

Chups
06-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Why? Ilicanos ARE Filipinos. Why do some Ilocanos feel that they are not Filipinos?
It could be that they are joking...or ignorant. You could have followed that up with....Ilocanos are Filipinos right? Or joked around by telling them you are Pampangueno. :D

"O really?? I'm Pampangueno....if you had told me you were Filipinos I would have beaten you up....LOL"

SnoopySmurf
06-16-2006, 11:12 AM
It could be that they are joking...or ignorant. You could have followed that up with....Ilocanos are Filipinos right? Or joked around by telling them you are Pampangueno. :D

"O really?? I'm Pampangueno....if you had told me you were Filipinos I would have beaten you up....LOL"

No, they weren't joking. They would ask me if I'm Ilocano and I'd no, I'm Filipino and they just shake their head.

My sister said that it's very common for Ilocanos in Hawaii to say this. It could be that they've had long hard and painful history here in Hawaii (slave wages to work in sugar cane fields) and then we "non-Ilocanos" just strolled in and had it easy.

Chups
06-16-2006, 12:00 PM
No, they weren't joking. They would ask me if I'm Ilocano and I'd no, I'm Filipino and they just shake their head.

My sister said that it's very common for Ilocanos in Hawaii to say this. It could be that they've had long hard and painful history here in Hawaii (slave wages to work in sugar cane fields) and then we "non-Ilocanos" just strolled in and had it easy.


Screw them for not sharing the fruits of their labor! :D LOL

Plat
06-16-2006, 06:02 PM
who knows....

flipside
06-16-2006, 11:27 PM
Why? Ilicanos ARE Filipinos. Why do some Ilocanos feel that they are not Filipinos?
an explanation for their behavior can be rooted in the way that the philippines is geographically, since we are a country of islands we identify each other from being bisaya, ilokano etc instead of being one nation it has been a problem ever since the spanish era, the reason why the revolution didnt work well was because everyone was just out for themselves and no national revolution, kapampangans were fighting for pampanga, cavitenos for cavite and such, this phenomenon is known as regionalism and it certainly is not good for our country if we really want to be better, we must strip ourselves with regionalism and instead of classifying each other by being ilokano bisaya etc we should be all proud to be filipino


whew!

xzworks
06-17-2006, 02:19 AM
an explanation for their behavior can be rooted in the way that the philippines is geographically, since we are a country of islands we identify each other from being bisaya, ilokano etc instead of being one nation it has been a problem ever since the spanish era, the reason why the revolution didnt work well was because everyone was just out for themselves and no national revolution, kapampangans were fighting for pampanga, cavitenos for cavite and such, this phenomenon is known as regionalism and it certainly is not good for our country if we really want to be better, we must strip ourselves with regionalism and instead of classifying each other by being ilokano bisaya etc we should be all proud to be filipino


whew!

tama..ako'y taas noong TAGALOG..lol.. :D

+= El Jefe=+
06-17-2006, 02:23 AM
ok let me get this straight
Philipino (pinoy) = someone fromt the philipine islands
Hawai is part of the Hawaian Islands, so how the **** are hawaians philipinos???

Papa Ace
06-17-2006, 03:40 AM
Why? Ilicanos ARE Filipinos. Why do some Ilocanos feel that they are not Filipinos?

the philippines is composed of many regions each having his own unique distinction. ilocanos is just under one of those regional classification. ilocanos were the very first regional minority to immigrate in hawaii. and now they form part (if not the biggest) of the population of hawaii. the history of filipinos living in hawaii started during a mass immigration of ilocano natives in hawaii. ironically, 2006 (this year) marks the 100th year (centennial celebration) of that immigration phenomenon.

read on: http://www.filipinosinhawaii100.org/chronology.asp

edmendoza101
06-17-2006, 03:42 AM
No, they weren't joking. They would ask me if I'm Ilocano and I'd no, I'm Filipino and they just shake their head.

My sister said that it's very common for Ilocanos in Hawaii to say this. It could be that they've had long hard and painful history here in Hawaii (slave wages to work in sugar cane fields) and then we "non-Ilocanos" just strolled in and had it easy.




I remember in my high school days, we been invited by a girlfriend from Batangas (Fiesta).During the course of the "happenings" when we're a bit groggy na,a group of burly guys with guns in their waist came and drank with us (invited cops from Manila )One guy stand up and asked" who among you guys are Ilocano?" he thought of asking the question coz he knew just like them we're also guest from Manila.A friend of mine whose parents are Ilocano but was born and raised in Manila quickly said "Me sir". Quickly the guy asked him if he can speak ilocano. Friend of mine said" No sir I was born and raised in Manila. The guy arrogantly told him " begin talking ilocano kid,you're in Ilocano Country".

Marcos time pa to mga tol!

:D

Kaloocboy
06-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Just like in Okinawa, if you ask them if they are Japanese, they say no, I'm Okinawan!

Chups
06-19-2006, 01:33 PM
And I guess the Texans. :D Are you Americans? No we're Texans.

Mr. Ryan
06-19-2006, 03:11 PM
ok let me get this straight
Philipino (pinoy) = someone fromt the philipine islands
Hawai is part of the Hawaian Islands, so how the **** are hawaians philipinos???
There are alot of Hawaiians that are of Filipino descent. Many of them are just expatriates who their families moved to Hawaii a long time ago or something. Brian Viloria is a Filipino who grew up in Hawaii, for instance.

kg21mvp
06-19-2006, 09:42 PM
There are alot of Hawaiians that are of Filipino descent. Many of them are just expatriates who their families moved to Hawaii a long time ago or something. Brian Viloria is a Filipino who grew up in Hawaii, for instance.
yeah and he is ilocano..

people will say that they're ilocano and not filipino partly because of the regionalism in the philippines..

magicjordan
06-19-2006, 09:45 PM
yeah and he is ilocano..

people will say that they're ilocano and not filipino partly because of the regionalism in the philippines..
also american idol "jasmin trias" hawaiian ilokano.

kg21mvp
06-19-2006, 09:47 PM
also american idol "jasmin trias" hawaiian ilokano.
tama ka dyan brolets! kaya nga nakapsok un sa top3 e dahil sa filipino contigent dyan sa USA e dami nagvot para sa kanya

magicjordan
06-19-2006, 09:50 PM
tama ka dyan brolets! kaya nga nakapsok un sa top3 e dahil sa filipino contigent dyan sa USA e dami nagvot para sa kanya
tol! marami raw talagang filipino sa hawaii halos 75% daw ang sabi ng kaibigan kong taga hawaii ewan ko lang totoo.

kg21mvp
06-19-2006, 09:53 PM
tol! marami raw talagang filipino sa hawaii halos 75% daw ang sabi ng kaibigan kong taga hawaii ewan ko lang totoo.
hehe ayos pala e, palagay ko halos lahat ng sikat sa mundo may lahi na pINOy LOL

loui_ludwig
06-20-2006, 07:36 PM
Ilocanos are a proud of their heritage.

But what i notice among asians, latinos, and whites, if they lived in Hawaii, u ask them what nationality/race they are, they say their Hawaiians.

Alibata
06-21-2006, 07:00 PM
Ilocanos are a proud of their heritage.

But what i notice among asians, latinos, and whites, if they lived in Hawaii, u ask them what nationality/race they are, they say their Hawaiians.

First, Hawaiian is not a nationality, Hawaii is an American state. I am from Los Angeles, hence, an Angelino. Polynesian is the native race of people of the Hawiian Islands. However, non-polynesian people have been living in Hawaii for a very, very long time and have probably never been anywhere else but Hawaii. I think that makes them Hawaiian. Off the subject, I read somewhere that Polynesians are decended from Filipinos or Malays which account for the many linguistic similarities in language. One of which, Tae' the word for **** is the same in both tagalog and polynesian. There are many words that are similar or the same. All in all Pinoys are proud and those who are not, **** em.

xzworks
06-21-2006, 11:58 PM
sakopin na natin ang hawaii. sugod mga kapatid!

SnoopySmurf
06-22-2006, 12:47 PM
My sister who lives in Oahu said that some Ilocanos don't want to be called Filipino. I'd understand if they ~lived in~ the Philippines. But they're in Hawaii. When a Filipino asks if they're Filipino, they sometimes say "No, I am Ilocano!"

That's the point I'm trying to make. If an American asks a white guy in Manila if he's American, I doubt he would say "I'm not American, I'm a Marylander!" :)

flipside
06-24-2006, 09:49 PM
My sister who lives in Oahu said that some Ilocanos don't want to be called Filipino. I'd understand if they ~lived in~ the Philippines. But they're in Hawaii. When a Filipino asks if they're Filipino, they sometimes say "No, I am Ilocano!"

That's the point I'm trying to make. If an American asks a white guy in Manila if he's American, I doubt he would say "I'm not American, I'm a Marylander!" :)
check my reply in the first page and you'll know why

vErDuGo
06-26-2006, 06:39 PM
ok let me get this straight
Philipino (pinoy) = someone fromt the philipine islands
Hawai is part of the Hawaian Islands, so how the **** are hawaians philipinos???

Fiilipinos makes up 1/4 of Hawaii's whole population.
I got lots of Ilocano relatives there.

Brian Viloria
Jesus Salud
Andy Ganigan
Ben Villaflor are some of the Pinoy boxers who lives in Hawaii.

flipside
06-26-2006, 09:47 PM
Fiilipinos makes up 1/4 of Hawaii's whole population.
I got lots of Ilocano relatives there.

Brian Viloria
Jesus Salud
Andy Ganigan
Ben Villaflor are some of the Pinoy boxers who lives in Hawaii.
i thought bj penn was filipino somewhat!LOL!

SnoopySmurf
06-26-2006, 11:46 PM
check my reply in the first page and you'll know why

I read that and i disagree with it. Like I said, in the Philippines that would apply. But when someone asks them what Nationality they are while outside of the Philippines, Ilocano is not a nationality.

flipside
06-27-2006, 12:10 AM
I read that and i disagree with it. Like I said, in the Philippines that would apply. But when someone asks them what Nationality they are while outside of the Philippines, Ilocano is not a nationality.
that also applies outside since filipinos come from the philippines right? its an inherent trait among filipinos

SnoopySmurf
06-27-2006, 01:03 AM
that also applies outside since filipinos come from the philippines right? its an inherent trait among filipinos

Actually, no. When we are asked where we are from, we say "The Philippines". I'd say abou 98% of the world's population wouldn't know what is or where Ilocanos are from.

flipside
06-27-2006, 01:16 AM
Actually, no. When we are asked where we are from, we say "The Philippines". I'd say abou 98% of the world's population wouldn't know what is or where Ilocanos are from.
your opinion is different from mine

that is that

No Ceiling
10-11-2009, 05:21 AM
ano kaya sa tinging ng mga hawaiian-ilocano k pacquiao ngayon

edmendoza001
10-12-2009, 10:38 PM
Me kilala akong Ilokano dito di lang pandak super barat pa! :banghead::banghead:


si foster boy! Makavetlog

Bwahahahaha!!!

-MAKAVELLI-
10-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Me kilala akong Ilokano dito di lang pandak super barat pa! :banghead::banghead:


si foster boy! Makavetlog

Bwahahahaha!!!




man, i REALLY hurt your feelings didn't i? i've never seen anyone get this obsessed with his master :D

edmendoza001
10-12-2009, 10:46 PM
man, i REALLY hurt your feelings didn't i? i've never seen anyone get this obsessed with his master :D






Yes Master Vetlog! :headbang:

-MAKAVELLI-
10-12-2009, 10:54 PM
Yes Master! :headbang:



as long as you know who owns you :dance:

Alexandros
10-13-2009, 01:13 AM
because filipino is tagalog and i hate tagalog sometimes i wish negros occ. and ilolo would form a seperate state. I hate learning that language its not my language i dont want nothing to do with tagalog or any of it etc i don't wanna speak id rather speak english or my own dialect than tagalog... but still they force us to learn it and i got tagalog subjects from elementary to college and it fukin suck i dont even try to study that shyt.

That is why here always talk in english as much as possible even in pinoy section because i hate speaking in tagalog i love my own dialect i think its unfair that tagalog is the one we prioritize the tagalogs did not even conquer us yet they have the right to impose their stuff on others, so to be fair either implement english as offical language or we from our seperate state. :haha: :haha:

nujabes77
10-13-2009, 01:34 AM
ilokanot kadadakelan... pati ti butbuto nyahhahahahahahahahhaha

Keith Richards
10-13-2009, 01:47 AM
because filipino is tagalog and i hate tagalog sometimes i wish negros occ. and ilolo would form a seperate state. I hate learning that language its not my language i dont want nothing to do with tagalog or any of it etc i don't wanna speak id rather speak english or my own dialect than tagalog... but still they force us to learn it and i got tagalog subjects from elementary to college and it fukin suck i dont even try to study that shyt.

That is why here always talk in english as much as possible even in pinoy section because i hate speaking in tagalog i love my own dialect i think its unfair that tagalog is the one we prioritize the tagalogs did not even conquer us yet they have the right to impose their stuff on others, so to be fair either implement english as offical language or we from our seperate state. :haha: :haha:

its got something to do with this
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/3727/tagalog2.htm

jst liike in mexico, they have no choice but to speak/learn spanish.

vErDuGo
10-13-2009, 01:53 AM
ilokanot kadadakelan... pati ti butbuto nyahhahahahahahahahhaha

Ilokano ti kauttogan.
Pati nwang, iyyoten da. :banghead:

Alexandros
10-13-2009, 02:47 AM
its got something to do with this
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/3727/tagalog2.htm

jst liike in mexico, they have no choice but to speak/learn spanish.

iba naman yan e kasi ung spanish foreign naman un parang universal. Eh satin pareho2x lng naman tayo mga tribu2x na meron sariling language sana dapat para fair walang meron lalamang dapat spanish nalang o english ang main language para fair sa lahat at hindi tagalog. Kakainis mag salita ng tagalog!!! pero wala kna magawa fuuuuuukk!!!"peeleft:

Ung tagalog meron pang mga grammar at sentence mga pandiwa, pambalana, patangi, panaklaw mga anu anu pa yun kakabwist eh sa samatala sa cebuano o ilongo wala naman nyan di naman ginagawa yan pero sa tagalog andaming arte fuk it !!
kaya lagi ako nag aabsent sa pilipino namin :haha: :haha:

nujabes77
10-13-2009, 02:52 AM
Ilokano ti kauttogan.
Pati nwang, iyyoten da. :banghead:



naimas ti ag shapel ti babai na ilokana





lolz @ the shapel word :firedevil

Keith Richards
10-13-2009, 03:14 AM
iba naman yan e kasi ung spanish foreign naman un parang universal. Eh satin pareho2x lng naman tayo mga tribu2x na meron sariling language sana dapat para fair walang meron lalamang dapat spanish nalang o english ang main language para fair sa lahat at hindi tagalog. Kakainis mag salita ng tagalog!!! pero wala kna magawa fuuuuuukk!!!"peeleft:

Ung tagalog meron pang mga grammar at sentence mga pandiwa, pambalana, patangi, panaklaw mga anu anu pa yun kakabwist eh sa samatala sa cebuano o ilongo wala naman nyan di naman ginagawa yan pero sa tagalog andaming arte fuk it !!
kaya lagi ako nag aabsent sa pilipino namin :haha: :haha:


but you speak tagalog pretty good?
i can feel your pain haha. im native tagalog speaker. i remember not liking tagalog subject in high school and elementary. wow i havent heard these pandiwa, pambalana, patangi, panaklaw in years and forgot what they mean.

chef_jjb
10-16-2009, 09:54 PM
HAHAHAHA!!! uki-ni-na-yo amin! :lol1:

mimeyo
10-23-2009, 05:44 AM
but you speak tagalog pretty good?
i can feel your pain haha. im native tagalog speaker. i remember not liking tagalog subject in high school and elementary. wow i havent heard these pandiwa, pambalana, patangi, panaklaw in years and forgot what they mean.

at least we have a national language kaysa naman sa wala..
:)