View Full Version : Trinidad vs. Taylor poll,no haters please!
Exciterx24 10-05-2004, 07:44 PM I hope you guys are as objective as possible. Now that you have seen Trinidad again. What do you think would happen if these two fight in 4 or 5 months? I think Trinidad TKO's and ruins him after a fairly competitive fight.
mic573 10-05-2004, 08:02 PM The fighters who give Tito trouble are movers and Taylor isn't much of a mover in my eyes. His jab could be a problem for Tito but everytime he throws it he brings it back down to his waist leaving himself open for the righthand. I think Taylor pulls ahead in the first four rounds but by the mid rounds Tito starts to takeover and stops him in the later rounds. Experience counts for alot and experience along with some punishing punches will beat Taylor.
Exciterx24 10-05-2004, 08:04 PM The fighters who give Tito trouble are movers and Taylor isn't much of a mover in my eyes. His jab could be a problem for Tito but everytime he throws it he brings it back down to his waist leaving himself open for the righthand. I think Taylor pulls ahead in the first four rounds but by the mid rounds Tito starts to takeover and stops him in the later rounds. Experience counts for alot and experience along with some punishing punches will beat Taylor.
I like your opinion but did you vote?
Pound4Pound1986 10-05-2004, 08:07 PM im going twith taylor by late ko and i dont even like the guy the reason? i really dont like tito either :D :cool: :D
Exciterx24 10-05-2004, 08:08 PM im going twith taylor by late ko and i dont even like the guy the reason? i really dont like tito either :D :cool: :D
I asked posters to be objective.
borikua 10-05-2004, 08:16 PM Trinidad by TKO or KO.
people are just too high on taylor.
he is big strong has a good jab but :
-he has only fought blown ups welters
-his chin has never been tested , NEVER.
-his has a good jab but his arsenal lacks hooks and uppercuts in combos , he just enjoys his reach and strenght with a jackhammer jab.
-he has problems making weight (he looks like a light heavyweight).
and people think he can beat a hall of famer , with a complete arsenal and boxing deadliest punch ? with world championship experience ?
come on taylor has never fought under pressure in the mandala bay or MSG .
right now tito kills him even if he is a future hall of famer. he has just never faced anybody dangerous and you think he can handle tito ?
lol
neils7147933 10-05-2004, 09:38 PM I would be worried if I was in Taylor's corner about his "backhand" left jab. If the ref got on him and he had to adjust his punch he might get caught with a straight shot from Tito. I don't know if he's taken as big of a puncher, either. Still, I like the true middleweight in a head-to-head. I think Taylor will only get better, though. I don't think the fight should happen now. Taylor needs another guy ranked 6-15 to help him develop.
jpboxer3 10-05-2004, 10:06 PM Right now,I think Tito would KO Taylor just because Taylor has never fought any big punchers like a Tito Trinidad.Who knows,Taylor might just be another FV :confused:...
Tha Greatest 10-05-2004, 10:13 PM taylor who will be tha greatest middleweight ever will win by a ko
SonnyG8R 10-05-2004, 10:32 PM If they fought today I think I'd go with Tito by decision.
I'd like to see this fight, but I'm not sure taylor is ready for it.
Hurlex 10-05-2004, 11:27 PM i put tito by UD..but if i could cahnge it..i would ..i agree also i think he can ko taylor..taylor has only fought blown up guys or bums..or old guys..anyway tito wins
mexway 10-05-2004, 11:58 PM At this point in there carear id say tito by ko simply becuase taylor has not had enought time to mature now in say three years if trinidad is still around and taylor has been in some tougher matches i think he could win a sd
jabsRstiff 10-06-2004, 06:57 AM taylor who will be tha greatest middleweight ever will win by a ko
Please....take that back.
Jermain Taylor will only be the biggest disappointment in your life as a boxing fan.
You're this high on him, after seeing him pound on nothing but used-up 154lbers ?
The guy does have talent....but he also leaves his head way up in the air.
If he does nothing but feast on low-end guys, & then steps up to meet guys like Hopkins or Trinidad, he will be a sitting duck for them.
Explosivo 10-06-2004, 01:02 PM people are just too high on taylor.
he is big strong has a good jab but :
-he has only fought blown ups welters
-his chin has never been tested , NEVER.
-his has a good jab but his arsenal lacks hooks and uppercuts in combos , he just enjoys his reach and strenght with a jackhammer jab.
-he has problems making weight (he looks like a light heavyweight).
and people think he can beat a hall of famer , with a complete arsenal and boxing deadliest punch ? with world championship experience ?
come on taylor has never fought under pressure in the mandala bay or MSG .
right now tito kills him even if he is a future hall of famer. he has just never faced anybody dangerous and you think he can handle tito ?
lol
I agree with you for exactly the reson you stated, Taylors chin has not been tested and Tito just has too much power and experience.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-06-2004, 01:15 PM i think taylor could last til the middle to later rounds but everyone under estimates titos power. and i think tito is coming back to take over the middles. with b-hop on the exit he is probably able to do just that. not that he can't be beat but he will be one of the top guys if not the top.
acquitted 10-07-2004, 12:38 AM taylor by ko late rounds..too big too strong..if de la hoya can beat trinidad and vargas can almost beat him other then tito low blowing him...taylor rapes him..
Hurlex 10-07-2004, 12:42 AM styles make fights dude...i think taylor can keep tito away at all and will have his chin tested and it wont be pretty he's tall and 160...he light for his height meaning his chin may sufer from low weight...either way tito checks is chin and sends him home..i bet he wont last aslong as mayorga did
ghostbear 10-07-2004, 02:19 AM I was wondering about this fight too. It doesn't need to happen right now. Taylor is still developing as a fighter and is coming along very well. Vargas was young and doing well when they threw him in there with Trinidad. There are too many similarities and I don't want to see another good prospect wasted because he was rushed into big fights too early. I like Taylor and I think he just needs some more time and a few competitive fights before he makes his attempt to take over middleweight.
Sweet Dick Willy 10-07-2004, 02:40 AM He couldnt KO freddy Cuevas and that guy is a welterweight punching bag with no punch. Taylor doesn't have the power to stop Trinidad and definitely not the skill. he's been protected and figthing fighters without a punch for the past 4 years for obvious reason. Taylor must not have a chin and his people know it. Tito has better skills, better chin, better punch and has been tested by far better opponents. Until Taylor proves otherwise this is a blowout
Sir_Jose 10-07-2004, 03:21 AM I hope you guys are as objective as possible. Now that you have seen Trinidad again. What do you think would happen if these two fight in 4 or 5 months? I think Trinidad TKO's and ruins him after a fairly competitive fight.
I love how everyone who doesn't think Tito could walk on water is labeled a hater
I love how everyone who doesn't think Tito could walk on water is labeled a hater
i do not believe tito can walk on water .
but i do believe he changed water in wine and that don felix is GOD.
Explosivo 10-07-2004, 12:22 PM taylor by ko late rounds..too big too strong..if de la hoya can beat trinidad and vargas can almost beat him other then tito low blowing him...taylor rapes him..
I didnt know Vargas almost beat Trinidad? When did that happen?
Explosivo 10-07-2004, 12:30 PM I love how everyone who doesn't think Tito could walk on water is labeled a hater
Im curios where you got that impression after looking at the posts on this thread?
acquitted 10-07-2004, 04:34 PM He couldnt KO freddy Cuevas and that guy is a welterweight punching bag with no punch. Taylor doesn't have the power to stop Trinidad and definitely not the skill. he's been protected and figthing fighters without a punch for the past 4 years for obvious reason. Taylor must not have a chin and his people know it. Tito has better skills, better chin, better punch and has been tested by far better opponents. Until Taylor proves otherwise this is a blowout
that was 3 years ago loser
Sweet Dick Willy 10-07-2004, 05:40 PM Taylor fought Freddy Cuevas in August of 2003. Go look it up.
Let's look at the great competition Taylor has fought since that journeyman welterweight who he beat by decision.
Rogelio Martinez: A career JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT whose a favorite punching bag of house fighters on Solo Boxeo.
Alex Rios: A favorite punching bag of anyone with promise. Lost to "Cowboy" James Coker before fight with Taylor, was knocked out by Terry Norris in 1996. That was the SHOT version. Like a fighter who loses to Meldrick Taylor now. Was KO'd by Raul Marquez in one round in 1994.
Alex Bunema: A career WELTEREIGHT/JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT. Had a draw with Carlos Bojorquez who has absolutely no skill whatsoever.
By 25 pro fights, Oscar de la Hoya fought(let's comapre Taylor to him since Taylor is an Olympian with promise and being promoted by HBO as a superstar): John John Molina (a world champion), Rafael Ruelas (a world champion with a record of 43-1 w/34 KOs), Julio Cesar Chavez (a legend though past his best); James Leija (a world champion though small) and Genaro Hernandez (a world champion switch hitter who was taller and bigger than Oscar).
Don't hand me this crap about Taylor taking it slow and he's so great. If a fighter is the goods, you put him in with real competition. Compare Taylor to Oscar and every other fighter who turned out to be the real deal and by the time they had 25 pro fights, they'd answered every question about them.
Taylor is a FRAUD until he steps up and proves he's not
Sir_Jose 10-07-2004, 06:23 PM Im curios where you got that impression after looking at the posts on this thread?
I got the impression from the title and the way Tito fans act when say he is anything , but our lord and savior.
jack_the_rippuh 10-07-2004, 09:03 PM It would be a boring fight. In the end however, for one reason or another, Tito gives up..
Exciterx24 10-07-2004, 10:03 PM [QUOTE=jack_the_rippuh]It would be a boring fight. In the end however, for one reason or another, Tito gives up..
Impressive nonsense.
anthetamine 10-08-2004, 08:46 AM Howard eastman will end taylors chances of facing trinidad so soon
eastman will beat him in the WBC eliminator, tito will get beat by hopkins
tito will beat de la hoya (after hopkins steps up)
eastman will be defeated by tito
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-08-2004, 08:50 AM Until I see Taylor fight some better fighters. My vote is for tito. Gotta say though, its the toughest call I've ever had to make.
jabsRstiff 10-08-2004, 08:54 AM Taylor has been beating half-assers from 154.
If you put Bunema or Marquez in with Tito....I'll guarantee they are dismissed by him in far more brutally effiecient fashion than what was shown by Jermain.
bandito 10-08-2004, 05:38 PM taylor who will be tha greatest middleweight ever will win by a ko
greatest ever!! ha ha ha. yeah, the greatest super middle to fight only jr middles!! it's okay if he fights a few, but all of his fights!! come on!!
tito by 8th round ko!!
acquitted 10-10-2004, 04:22 PM taylors style is not to go for the knock-out unless he has 2..he jabs the hell outta ppl the hole fight...then right hands em...unlike mayorga..taylor wouldnt just stand in trinidads face and exchange with him..trinidad would eat jabs all night...trinidad isnt good against ppl who has quick hands and actually fights him...de la hoya easily outboxed trinidad in their fight..and taylor would do the same
Sweet Dick Willy 10-10-2004, 05:01 PM Taylor jabs from the waist (open for lead right hands) and he doesn't have the quick feet to get out of the way. Holds his chin up when he punches. Look at Taylor when he 's punching. He aint been exposed because hes' fighting undersized and shot fighters. The second he fights a live body he's toast. Tito is a pipe dream. Taylor would never sign to fight him. Someone else like a Syd Vanderpool type will knock milk dud head off his rocker!
comepana 10-10-2004, 05:24 PM For me it would be like the Trinidad V Reid fight IMO.Just saw the DLH V Tito fight in an obgetive matter.How in the world people can said DLH won all the first rounds,that's insane.All is because of the HBO comments on Oscar,and the people going crazy with every oscar's flashes.Whatch carefully the fight without volume,DLH was dancing to much,he did an awesome job with his jab.He was just trying to win rounds at the last second with fast flashes that didn't land clearly after all.The fight was good but don't live up to the hype.Larry has it at 115-114 for Oscar,I have it 115-114 for Tito or 114-114 draw With a 10-10 first round Tito(2,4,10,11,12) Oscar(3,5,6,7,8,9)
Don't get me wrong i'm a big Oscar fan and big Tito fan.IMO it was a close fight(not controvercial) it was fare a close win for Oscar or Tito or even better a draw.Just hope a rematch at 160 with oscar fighting toe-to-toe with tito.
Sweet Dick Willy 10-10-2004, 05:37 PM We can argue DLH -Tito all night on how to score that fight. I had it a draw. The point is that doesnt have anything to do with Tito vs. Taylor.
If the fight was proposed, I have no doubt Tito and his camp would sign it tomorrow. Taylor and his camp, however, would not. Why is that?
Because they're not confident. They know Jermain is all hype and aren't sure he can back up what HBO has done to promote him as the next great thing. They said the same about Michael Grant and Wlad Klithcsko. See where they ended up? On the canvas counting sheep!. LOL
comepana 10-10-2004, 05:47 PM On the Taylor-Trinidad i said it would be like a replay of Tito-reid fight.Taylor is young and not ready to take on the 160 elite IMO.
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