In honor of those who have served and those that are currently serving around the world, let me say Thank You to all of you who have sacrificed your freedoms so that we may keep ours. For those who are currently serving or have served in Iraq, this is also your thread, your place to go to sound off, without fear of retribute, where you wont be judged or made to feel like crap for serving your country. This is a place where people need to show their respect. Consider it like Arlington, where I once saw a sign there that states...these are hallowed grounds, please treat it as such. So to all my BoxingScene freaks like me, you may come in to, but show some respect and treat these people with dignity...they deserve it. God Bless OUR TROOPS! Now....SOUND OFF!!!!!!

In honor of those who have served and those that are currently serving around the world, let me say Thank You to all of you who have sacrificed your freedoms so that we may keep ours. For those who are currently serving or have served in Iraq, this is also your thread, your place to go to sound off, without fear of retribute, where you wont be judged or made to feel like crap for serving your country. This is a place where people need to show their respect. Consider it like Arlington, where I once saw a sign there that states...these are hallowed grounds, please treat it as such. So to all my BoxingScene freaks like me, you may come in to, but show some respect and treat these people with dignity...they deserve it. God Bless OUR TROOPS! Now....SOUND OFF!!!!!!
WHOAAA!!!!

In honor of those who have served and those that are currently serving around the world, let me say Thank You to all of you who have sacrificed your freedoms so that we may keep ours. For those who are currently serving or have served in Iraq, this is also your thread, your place to go to sound off, without fear of retribute, where you wont be judged or made to feel like crap for serving your country. This is a place where people need to show their respect. Consider it like Arlington, where I once saw a sign there that states...these are hallowed grounds, please treat it as such. So to all my BoxingScene freaks like me, you may come in to, but show some respect and treat these people with dignity...they deserve it. God Bless OUR TROOPS! Now....SOUND OFF!!!!!!

that if you are going to post and you dont mind everyone knowing who you are...it would be great to know each others name and status....I will start it....I am Rodney Walbecq I served as a Navy Hospital Corpsman for 10 years. My Navy time wre the greatest years of my life and my officail active duty title was.... HM2 Rodney Walbecq USN/ Petty Officer Walbecq...Hospital Corpsman Second United States Navy Veteran

that if you are going to post and you dont mind everyone knowing who you are...it would be great to know each others name and status....I will start it....I am Rodney Walbecq I served as a Navy Hospital Corpsman for 10 years. My Navy time wre the greatest years of my life and my officail active duty title was.... HM2 Rodney Walbecq USN/ Petty Officer Walbecq...Hospital Corpsman Second United States Navy Veteran
Sorry not giving my last name but I'm Scott B served as an infantry soldier (11 Bravo)with the army for 2 years. I enlisted to CO B 1ST BN 104 INF out of Greenfield, Ma and got activated and served Homeland Security out of Fort Devins for 8 months. Most boring 2 years of my life and would never enlist again unfortunately to say. I was a Private First Class/E3 when I was discharged with a broken ankle.

This reminds me where the **** has El Sniper been? I like that guy he is a cool cat and a hero. :boxing:

This reminds me where the **** has El Sniper been? I like that guy he is a cool cat and a hero. :boxing:
ive noticed him in the boxing lounges lately but not sure when his last post was. hopefully everything is alright with him and he's safe.

In honor of those who have served and those that are currently serving around the world, let me say Thank You to all of you who have sacrificed your freedoms so that we may keep ours. For those who are currently serving or have served in Iraq, this is also your thread, your place to go to sound off, without fear of retribute, where you wont be judged or made to feel like crap for serving your country. This is a place where people need to show their respect. Consider it like Arlington, where I once saw a sign there that states...these are hallowed grounds, please treat it as such. So to all my BoxingScene freaks like me, you may come in to, but show some respect and treat these people with dignity...they deserve it. God Bless OUR TROOPS! Now....SOUND OFF!!!!!!

PROPS!!!!....and thank you to all Vets!

rocco....didn't know you'd served. I'd respected you before, as you know...that just went up 10 fold. Peace bro, thank you, and God bless.

El Sniper...Hope all is well.

PROPS!!!!....and thank you to all Vets!

rocco....didn't know you'd served. I'd respected you before, as you know...that just went up 10 fold. Peace bro, thank you, and God bless.

El Sniper...Hope all is well.
HEY MAN THANKS ALOT, RESPECT IS ALL I ASK FOR FROM PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU SAID MEANS ALOT SO THANK YOU.

HEY MAN THANKS ALOT, RESPECT IS ALL I ASK FOR FROM PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU SAID MEANS ALOT SO THANK YOU.

You're more than welcome, hoss.

Sorry not giving my last name but I'm Scott B served as an infantry soldier (11 Bravo)with the army for 2 years. I enlisted to CO B 1ST BN 104 INF out of Greenfield, Ma and got activated and served Homeland Security out of Fort Devins for 8 months. Most boring 2 years of my life and would never enlist again unfortunately to say. I was a Private First Class/E3 when I was discharged with a broken ankle.

that you didnt enjoy your time Rocco...regardless of what happened while you were in, you must admit it changed you for the better? For those who go to bootcamp, regardless what branch really, we all have a common bond that most civilians just cant relate to. (no offence to them) Bottom line...you served your country...period...and for that..my respects...!!!! Thanks for sharing.

This reminds me where the **** has El Sniper been? I like that guy he is a cool cat and a hero. :boxing:
I talked with El Sniper he was in the heat of it over in Iraq...I do hope he is well. Sometimes, your duty calls you away where there are no computers to log on to, so maybe he has just been real busy doing his thing...if anyone hears from him, let us all know...thanks...The Coagulator....

Sgt. James M. USMC 3rd FSSG Okinawa, Japan 1990-1994

Sgt. James M. USMC 3rd FSSG Okinawa, Japan 1990-1994

Hey Sarg....oooohhhhhhhraaaahhhhhhhhh!

WHOAAA!!!!


I know you're an 11b so I understand the misspelling it's hooah

You talkin' to me soldier?

Rockin' :boxing:

You talkin' to me soldier?

Rockin' :boxing:


drop and give me 20

drop and give me 20

Easily! :dance: Rockin' :boxing:

that if you are going to post and you dont mind everyone knowing who you are...it would be great to know each others name and status....I will start it....I am Rodney Walbecq I served as a Navy Hospital Corpsman for 10 years. My Navy time wre the greatest years of my life and my officail active duty title was.... HM2 Rodney Walbecq USN/ Petty Officer Walbecq...Hospital Corpsman Second United States Navy Veteran
my grandfather was a Navy petty officer :cool:

my grandfather was a Navy petty officer :cool:
do you know what he did in the Navy...what his job was?

anyone here ever did drown proofing, I done it a couple of times, but never at 0600 in an outdoor pool, Its 0815 and I'm hoping my nuts drop back down before lunch. Got to love CAV

Hats off to our military personal of the past, present and future! They keep us, well....us!

Rockin' :boxing:

that if you are going to post and you dont mind everyone knowing who you are...it would be great to know each others name and status....I will start it....I am Rodney Walbecq I served as a Navy Hospital Corpsman for 10 years. My Navy time wre the greatest years of my life and my officail active duty title was.... HM2 Rodney Walbecq USN/ Petty Officer Walbecq...Hospital Corpsman Second United States Navy Veteran
I served as a hospital Corpsman for 4 years, and am now a Lab Officer O-1E, Ive been stationed at Camp Lejune, Groton, Portsmouth, and Pensacola.

do you know what he did in the Navy...what his job was?
I know he programmed computers for them at the end ..i'm not real sure what he did on the ship. there was a web site all about the ship he was on but now all i see is a pic of him abd my grandmother where the site was :confused:

I know he programmed computers for them at the end ..i'm not real sure what he did on the ship. there was a web site all about the ship he was on but now all i see is a pic of him abd my grandmother where the site was :confused:
USS Mariano G Vallejo SSBN 658 ........http://www.ssbn658.org/Pages/comparty.htmlhttp://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g178/darrenshyrockford/monigold.jpg

I served as a hospital Corpsman for 4 years, and am now a Lab Officer O-1E, Ive been stationed at Camp Lejune, Groton, Portsmouth, and Pensacola.
good for you to convert over to Officer....Ensign right?...What years and where did you go to HM A School? Where are you stationed now?

USS Mariano G Vallejo SSBN 658 ........http://www.ssbn658.org/Pages/comparty.html

WWW.DDG8.com

Hats off to our military personal of the past, present and future! They keep us, well....us!

Rockin' :boxing:
did u get a chance to see any of the fights this weekend. I went to Don's this weekend. You know his good buddy the writer? We both know him, I just didnt want to use his name...he is trying to hook me up with some fights next month at the legendary Blue Horizon in Philli.....

WWW.DDG8.com
wow nice looking ship

wow nice looking ship
thats your grandpa and grandma eh? are they still with us?

did u get a chance to see any of the fights this weekend. I went to Don's this weekend. You know his good buddy the writer? We both know him, I just didnt want to use his name...he is trying to hook me up with some fights next month at the legendary Blue Horizon in Philli.....

Didnt see any of the big fights, again.

Does the writers name begin with an L. Hes a very smart guy, nice guy too. Is he hooking you up to work the cuts or just to watch them?

Rockin' :boxing:

good for you to convert over to Officer....Ensign right?...What years and where did you go to HM A School? Where are you stationed now?
I went in 08/2001, in Great Lakes. HM "A" school in SD is closed.....I think it closed in 99'.

I am now in transit from Pensacola to Milton FL.

thats your grandpa and grandma eh? are they still with us?
nah he killed her in 80 and he died in jail a few years ago

Didnt see any of the big fights, again.

Does the writers name begin with an L. Hes a very smart guy, nice guy too. Is he hooking you up to work the cuts or just to watch them?

Rockin' :boxing:

To actually work them...think he is doin' it as a favor to Don though...I think Don feels bad because he and I had a deal and part of that was to get my foot in the door and hasnt really been able to...he hasnt been active in the business in a while so his list of contacts isnt very long and some on the list he dont want me messin' with..if ya' know what I mean...I of course am just so glad to be in the mix with these guys and appreciate all the help they have already given me...I am so ready to go and I owe it to Bill and Don and another cutman bud...Im blessed....

nah he killed her in 80 and he died in jail a few years ago

forgive me...what can I say...you left me speechless...

I went in 08/2001, in Great Lakes. HM "A" school in SD is closed.....I think it closed in 99'.

I am now in transit from Pensacola to Milton FL.
I went to HM "A" school at Balboa also...after a couple years as a deck ape on a ship. Got to work in sickbay for about 1 of those years...then they sent me from the Persian Gulf all the way back around to Balboa..1985...my last tour was 90-93 at NSHS Great Lakes...a bunch of my students went to Storm....Being a Corpsman was awesome but the pay sucked...right?...thats probably one reason you deserted us for the O ranks...dont blame ya'...LOL....good to talk to ya'...

forgive me...what can I say...you left me speechless...
nah it's ok i forgave him a lond long time ago so did my mom and the rest other then my grandmothers sister ....i just wanted him to get out so i could get to know him but it's all good

I'm served in the Navy for 7 years. I was a Gunner's Mate 1st Class Petty Officer. I served aboard the USS Arleigh Burke FFG 51 in Norfolk, Virginia and I also was assigned to Special Boat Unit 22.

I'm served in the Navy for 7 years. I was a Gunner's Mate 1st Class Petty Officer. I served aboard the USS Arleigh Burke FFG 51 in Norfolk, Virginia and I also was assigned to Special Boat Unit 22.

good to hear from you...what years did you serve Gunny?

From 1992 to 1999.

I know you're an 11b so I understand the misspelling it's hooah
hey it's been awhile since i've had to say that never mind type it. but thanks for the correction sir!

From 1992 to 1999.
at the same time. I was in from 4/84 to 5/93

Ht2 Surface Warfare Ramos. I Enlisted In March '96 And Still Going. Did 4 Tours In The Gulf. Had Both Good And Bad Times. The Good Times Are Like No Other. Seen Stuff You Wouldn't Even Imagine. Although Challenging At Times, The Reward Is Well Worth It. Especially When You Have People Like Coagulator Who Apreciate The Thing Were Doing Out There. Thanks!!!

I have mixed feelings about the military. On the one hand I am very happy and proud that we have the strongest military on the planet. It makes me proud that I have relatives who fought in WWI and WWII and helped turn the tide of both of those conflicts. On the other hand I am at heart a man of peace. I can see the need to fight sometimes when the stakes are high enough such as WWII the Civil War etc. But i am not infavor of the war in Iraq and I think Vietnam was an unnessecary tragedy. As far as soldiers and military men go, I also have mixed feelings. I can respect that many people are able to learn skills, see different parts of the world and generally better themselves through military training and service. On the other hand I believe that in a lot of ways the military is one step up from prison. In fact I know of several people who litteraly chose the military over prison. The military has virtually no standards in recruitment and is therefore filled with some of the most brainless, useless people on the planet who can't do anything but march in a straight line and follow the orders of others. I also think that military service often times has a very negative effect on veterans returning from duty. many of them have trouble fitting back into civilized life and many of them have a violent streak that they have trouble controlling.

I have mixed feelings about the military. On the one hand I am very happy and proud that we have the strongest military on the planet. It makes me proud that I have relatives who fought in WWI and WWII and helped turn the tide of both of those conflicts. On the other hand I am at heart a man of peace. I can see the need to fight sometimes when the stakes are high enough such as WWII the Civil War etc. But i am not infavor of the war in Iraq and I think Vietnam was an unnessecary tragedy. As far as soldiers and military men go, I also have mixed feelings. I can respect that many people are able to learn skills, see different parts of the world and generally better themselves through military training and service. On the other hand I believe that in a lot of ways the military is one step up from prison. In fact I know of several people who litteraly chose the military over prison. The military has virtually no standards in recruitment and is therefore filled with some of the most brainless, useless people on the planet who can't do anything but march in a straight line and follow the orders of others. I also think that military service often times has a very negative effect on veterans returning from duty. many of them have trouble fitting back into civilized life and many of them have a violent streak that they have trouble controlling.
Those days are over. You can NEVER be recuited if you have had a felony. If you have had any jail time regardless of the charge, you must submit a waiver. The new military generation is much different. Standardized tests are now done to qualify for recruitment and certain jobs require a pretty high score. The choice of Jail or Military is long gone. Those days existed when manning was extremely low. Now the Military is actually turming people away, and forcing individuals to get out.

Ht2 Surface Warfare Ramos. I Enlisted In March '96 And Still Going. Did 4 Tours In The Gulf. Had Both Good And Bad Times. The Good Times Are Like No Other. Seen Stuff You Wouldn't Even Imagine. Although Challenging At Times, The Reward Is Well Worth It. Especially When You Have People Like Coagulator Who Apreciate The Thing Were Doing Out There. Thanks!!!
I understand it...thanks bro and remember IT IS WORTH IT. I dont need to tell you...the friends you make, the comraderie, the love of country and the love of serving your country...civilians sometimes just dont understand how much service people desire to serve them, their freedom, their liberty. HULL TECH.....ooooohhhhhrraaaaahhhhh my friend...I was a pecker checker/penis machinist...LOL....if you love your liberty thank a Vet...I love mine...so thanks...keep your head down brother, make it home safe!

Those days are over. You can NEVER be recuited if you have had a felony. If you have had any jail time regardless of the charge, you must submit a waiver. The new military generation is much different. Standardized tests are now done to qualify for recruitment and certain jobs require a pretty high score. The choice of Jail or Military is long gone. Those days existed when manning was extremely low. Now the Military is actually turming people away, and forcing individuals to get out.


That's good to know.

My real name is Mick Sanders, former Sgt Sanders in the British Royal Artillery, I served my country in Northern Ireland twice, Bosnia twice and in the first Gulf War amongst others.

I served from 1989 to 2003.

I obviously have great respect for all servicemen and women and wish them all well.
They do a thankless job in horrific environments for the good or not so good of their nations and the vast majority are people who are of the highest calibre and therefore I now employ a vast number of former service personnel.

I have mixed feelings about the military. On the one hand I am very happy and proud that we have the strongest military on the planet. It makes me proud that I have relatives who fought in WWI and WWII and helped turn the tide of both of those conflicts. On the other hand I am at heart a man of peace. I can see the need to fight sometimes when the stakes are high enough such as WWII the Civil War etc. But i am not infavor of the war in Iraq and I think Vietnam was an unnessecary tragedy. As far as soldiers and military men go, I also have mixed feelings. I can respect that many people are able to learn skills, see different parts of the world and generally better themselves through military training and service. On the other hand I believe that in a lot of ways the military is one step up from prison. In fact I know of several people who litteraly chose the military over prison. The military has virtually no standards in recruitment and is therefore filled with some of the most brainless, useless people on the planet who can't do anything but march in a straight line and follow the orders of others. I also think that military service often times has a very negative effect on veterans returning from duty. many of them have trouble fitting back into civilized life and many of them have a violent streak that they have trouble controlling.but no offence, you simply dont know what you are talking about. Most people in the military are peaceful people too. Nobody wants kill or go to war. But somebody has to do it B.B. If it aint you, then who, my friend, and following orders to include marching in a straight line is what makes these people better than most civilians...It takes a real man (or woman) to be able to follow orders no matter what! Most civilians can't humble themselves enough to do that. Bootcamp fixes that. And yes I have heard all the "oh they brainwash you" and "your not allowed to think for yourself". Correct...you have a job to do. There is no room for questioning your superiors in time of war. Questions can get your buddy or yourself killed, there is no time to question anything. I dont expect you to understand these things at my level or those who have served. Also, by reading what you wrote, truely being thankful for what these people do for you isnt clicking like it should...the only example of what kind of thankfulness you should have would be something like this..."your 16 years old lets say...and your absolutely psycho girlfriend of 3 weeks tells you she thinks she's pregant...you of course lose your mind and for 3 weeks she leads you to believe she is very late for her period...and then she has the test...and tells you false alarm...and you shit your ****in' pants because you are so thankful....multiply that thankfulness by 100 and that is how thankful you should be to these people because the bottom line..it aint you out there. Most youngsters today aint got what it takes to join the military and the standards for getting in are way tougher than when I (the loser at the time) went in. You better be clean as a whistle and smart to do anything besides a ground pounder toting a rifle, and then you better be the best shot out there. My experience with most youngsters today dont have the fortitude no the selflessness needed to SERVE. Anyway, B.B., there is merit to what you say, just very little. peace to you The Coag

My real name is Mick Sanders, former Sgt Sanders in the British Royal Artillery, I served my country in Northern Ireland twice, Bosnia twice and in the first Gulf War amongst others.

I served from 1989 to 2003.

I obviously have great respect for all servicemen and women and wish them all well.
They do a thankless job in horrific environments for the good or not so good of their nations and the vast majority are people who are of the highest calibre and therefore I now employ a vast number of former service personnel.
plus I love your name...reminds me of Micky Ward and Micky from the greatest boxing movies ever. Cut me Mick...and thanks to you for your selflessness and serving your GREAT NATION! We ponded ground during many of the same years...peace to you.

but no offence, you simply dont know what you are talking about. Most people in the military are peaceful people too. Nobody wants kill or go to war. But somebody has to do it B.B. If it aint you, then who, my friend, and following orders to include marching in a straight line is what makes these people better than most civilians...It takes a real man (or woman) to be able to follow orders no matter what! Most civilians can't humble themselves enough to do that. Bootcamp fixes that. And yes I have heard all the "oh they brainwash you" and "your not allowed to think for yourself". Correct...you have a job to do. There is no room for questioning your superiors in time of war. Questions can get your buddy or yourself killed, there is no time to question anything. I dont expect you to understand these things at my level or those who have served. Also, by reading what you wrote, truely being thankful for what these people do for you isnt clicking like it should...the only example of what kind of thankfulness you should have would be something like this..."your 16 years old lets say...and your absolutely psycho girlfriend of 3 weeks tells you she thinks she's pregant...you of course lose your mind and for 3 weeks she leads you to believe she is very late for her period...and then she has the test...and tells you false alarm...and you shit your ****in' pants because you are so thankful....multiply that thankfulness by 100 and that is how thankful you should be to these people because the bottom line..it aint you out there. Most youngsters today aint got what it takes to join the military and the standards for getting in are way tougher than when I (the loser at the time) went in. You better be clean as a whistle and smart to do anything besides a ground pounder toting a rifle, and then you better be the best shot out there. My experience with most youngsters today dont have the fortitude no the selflessness needed to SERVE. Anyway, B.B., there is merit to what you say, just very little. peace to you The Coag


Exactly, that's why I endeavour to employ ex service personnel, they are hard working, trustworthy, motivated and most importantly they have seen the real world and have a superb attitude to life, others and the world in general.

As an ex training instructor I saw the future of the young and to be fair its not great, the PlayStation generation (in general) are unfit, unmotivated and in a lot of cases dis-respectful of life in general, the forces molds these people into confident self resourceful people to be soldiers etc first and later on to be good people!

Exactly, that's why I endeavour to employ ex service personnel, they are hard working, trustworthy, motivated and most importantly they have seen the real world and have a superb attitude to life, others and the world in general.

As an ex training instructor I saw the future of the young and to be fair its not great, the PlayStation generation (in general) are unfit, unmotivated and in a lot of cases dis-respectful of life in general, the forces molds these people into confident self resourceful people to be soldiers etc first and later on to be good people!

You just hit the nail right on the head...I call them Generation Clueless.....

but no offence, you simply dont know what you are talking about. Most people in the military are peaceful people too. Nobody wants kill or go to war. But somebody has to do it B.B. If it aint you, then who, my friend, and following orders to include marching in a straight line is what makes these people better than most civilians...It takes a real man (or woman) to be able to follow orders no matter what! Most civilians can't humble themselves enough to do that. Bootcamp fixes that. And yes I have heard all the "oh they brainwash you" and "your not allowed to think for yourself". Correct...you have a job to do. There is no room for questioning your superiors in time of war. Questions can get your buddy or yourself killed, there is no time to question anything. I dont expect you to understand these things at my level or those who have served. Also, by reading what you wrote, truely being thankful for what these people do for you isnt clicking like it should...the only example of what kind of thankfulness you should have would be something like this..."your 16 years old lets say...and your absolutely psycho girlfriend of 3 weeks tells you she thinks she's pregant...you of course lose your mind and for 3 weeks she leads you to believe she is very late for her period...and then she has the test...and tells you false alarm...and you shit your ****in' pants because you are so thankful....multiply that thankfulness by 100 and that is how thankful you should be to these people because the bottom line..it aint you out there. Most youngsters today aint got what it takes to join the military and the standards for getting in are way tougher than when I (the loser at the time) went in. You better be clean as a whistle and smart to do anything besides a ground pounder toting a rifle, and then you better be the best shot out there. My experience with most youngsters today dont have the fortitude no the selflessness needed to SERVE. Anyway, B.B., there is merit to what you say, just very little. peace to you The Coag

I respect your seflessness Coag and Mickey. You deserve the respect of your country's and I am not trying to diminish that. Just trying to shed some light on some other issues having to do with military.

There was a story on 60 minutes not that long ago that showed the embarrassing lack of standards required to enter the military. Highschool dropouts, kids who had to sign their names with an "x" because they were illiterate... They also showed a long list of recent recruits with criminal backgrounds. This story wasn't that long ago maybe a couple years so thing s MAY have changed, but how long have we been in Afganistan and Iraq already? With no clear goal or exit strategy...Don't get me wrong I am very thankful to the military men and women who risk their life for my freedom. The thing is I don't really think the war in Iraq is actually making me safer. If anything it is increasing the number of terrorists and making the us more hated in the eyes of many around the world. You are a military men so you are going to defend them and I can respect that, but perhaps being so intrenched in the military dogma you fail to see what us civilians do. I completely agree with what you guys are saying about the "playstation generation" (good one by the way). A lot of these kids need a good kick in the ass and the military may just be the thing to teach them some responsibility and respect. Hell just look at some of the moron gangsta wannabes on this site and you can't help but weep for the future. :(

The thing is, and this may not be fair to the current generation of military men and women, but I have a hard time having the same level of gratitude towards someone fighting in Iraq as I do for those who fought in WWII. They were truely fighting for the world's freedom. I don't think spending 90 billion dollars a month in a place where we are losing countrymen everyday and have increased rather than decreased the threat to the US is something to be thankfull for.

If Iraq turns into a democracy of its own right, everything will have been worth it.

I respect your opinion and I hope you respect mine. There was a story on 60 minutes not that long ago that should the embarrassing lack of standards needed to enter the military they also showed a long list of recent recruits with criminal backgrounds. Don't get me wrong I am very thankful to the military men and women who risk their life for my freedom. The thing is I don't really think the Persian Gulf or the war in Iraq are actually making me safer. If anything it is increasing the number of terrorists and making the us more hated in the eyes of many around the world. You are a military man so you are going to defend them and I can respect that, but perhaps being part so intrenched in the military dogma you fail to see what us civilians do. I completely agree with what you guys are saying about the "playstation generation" (good one by the way). A lot of these kids need a good kick in the ass and the military may just be the thing to teach them some responsibility and respect. This may not be far to the current generation of military men and women but i have a hard time having the same level of gratitude towards someone fighting in Iraq as I do for those who fought in WWII. They were truely fighting for the world's freedom. I don't think spending 90 billion dollars a month in a place where we are losing countrymen everyday and have increased rather than decreased the threat to the US is something to be thankfull for.

and disagree with most as much....dont believe everything you see and hear..and I do get what you are saying...but let me ask you this...are you able to separate the difference between politics (why we are there) and the logistics (who is there) I never said you must agree with why we are there, but what I hope I can teach you today is there is no difference in the people from now to those in WW1 and WW2...they took the same oath, they left their loved ones just like our grandfathers, they are following orders just like our grandfathers did, they love our country just as much as our grandfathers did..so it is very important to separate the servicemembers from the politicians...but I do understand what you are saying because I dont support all the things we are over there for and Im ****ing pissed off at how much money we are blowing over there and how hard we are having it here. Michigan is 3% higher unemployment than the nation average and I think that if I had to serve my country with George Bush as my Commander and Chief I would blow my head off...but I am still able to serarate him from our troops. God Bless ya B.B. lets talk again soon eh?

If Iraq turns into a democracy of its own right, everything will have been worth it.

dont get sucked into the hype...they will only have a free people as long as we are there to inforce it, once we are gone, so is their freedoms...the end....

If Iraq turns into a democracy of its own right, everything will have been worth it.
Uhmmmm....It did not already.
Just do some research on how they treated women before the war and after.

Uhmmmm....It did not already.
Just do some research on how they treated women before the war and after.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN...AFTER THE WAR....DO YOUR RESEARCH RETARD...THE WAR AINT OVER....and when we pull out...so will freedom...I wont be looking for your rersponse because it's obvious you dont have the amo to fight this war against me...and for that...I am truely sorry....by the way...Ive been there...have you nutbag....

and disagree with most as much....dont believe everything you see and hear..and I do get what you are saying...but let me ask you this...are you able to separate the difference between politics (why we are there) and the logistics (who is there) I never said you must agree with why we are there, but what I hope I can teach you today is there is no difference in the people from now to those in WW1 and WW2...they took the same oath, they left their loved ones just like our grandfathers, they are following orders just like our grandfathers did, they love our country just as much as our grandfathers did..so it is very important to separate the servicemembers from the politicians...but I do understand what you are saying because I dont support all the things we are over there for and Im ****ing pissed off at how much money we are blowing over there and how hard we are having it here. Michigan is 3% higher unemployment than the nation average and I think that if I had to serve my country with George Bush as my Commander and Chief I would blow my head off...but I am still able to serarate him from our troops. God Bless ya B.B. lets talk again soon eh?
the same values is right coag, once you join you live by this the rest of your life enlisted still or not.

The Army Values

Loyalty: Bear true faith and allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, the Army, your unit, and other solidiers

Duty: Fulfill your obligations

Selfless Service: Put the welfare of the nation, the Army, and your subordinates before your own

Honor: Live up to all the Army Values

Integrity: Do what's right, legally and morally

Personal Courage: Face fear, danger or adversity(physical or moral)

I mean honestly what more could you ask for in a person once they swear themselves in, these people live by this and it shows in what they do for us and themselves everyday. We dont ever expect to be praised for what we do we just want respect for what we do.

Just figured I would post this to all of us former and current armed service men and women.

I am an American Soldier, a protector of the greatest nation on earth, sworn o uphold the Constitution of the United States

I will treat others with dignity and respect and expect others to do the same

I will honor my Country, the Army, my unit and fellow soldiers by living the Army Values

No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety which will disgrace my uniform, my unit or my country

Lastly, I am proud of my Country and it's Flag. I want to look back and say I am proud to have served my Country as a soldier.

Just figured I would post this to all of us former and current armed service men and women.

I am an American Soldier, a protector of the greatest nation on earth, sworn o uphold the Constitution of the United States

I will treat others with dignity and respect and expect others to do the same

I will honor my Country, the Army, my unit and fellow soldiers by living the Army Values

No matter what situation I am in, I will never do anything for pleasure, profit, or personal safety which will disgrace my uniform, my unit or my country

Lastly, I am proud of my Country and it's Flag. I want to look back and say I am proud to have served my Country as a soldier.

Hospital Corpsman Pledge

I solumnly pledge myself before God and these witnesses to practice faithfully all of my duties as a member of the Hospital Corps.

I hold the care of the sick and injured to be a privilege and a sacred trust and will assist the Medical Department Officer with loyalty and honesty.

I will not knowingly permit harm to come to any patient.

I will not partake of nor administer any unauthorized medication.

I will hold all matters pertaining to the private lives of patients in strict confidence.

I dedicate my heart, mind and strength to the work before me.

I shall do all within my power to show in myself an example of all that is honorable and good thoughout my Naval career.

Oh rah!

To any and all Active Duty people servin' overseas...good morning and how ya'll doin'? Hope all you dad's had the best Father's Day possible!!!!!!Thanks for your dedication and loyalty to our country and it's children

To all those away from home, loved ones, and friends for this 4th of July...Thank you....it takes me back to floating in the persian gulf and having burgers on the fantail on Sundays and holidays...boy did I miss home back then...did whatever I could to get my mind off of what I was missin' and on the tasked at hand. God bless all of you and know that we are proud of you and what you are doing soooo far from home...come home safe and take care of yourselves and your buddies!!!!