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Neuraxis
10-05-2004, 03:04 PM
Good article from another site about Wladimir.

Last Saturday’s Klitschko vs. Williamson fight appeared to be the Broadway version of the life and times of Lennox Lewis by Emanuel Steward, with Wladimir Klitschko playing the heralded hero.

Klitschko, not earlier known for emulating Steward’s American style of fighting, looked nervous, tentative and out of place in his second stint under the tutelage of the famed trainer of champions. For all of Steward’s acclaim, the sudden switch to the style that worked wonders for both Lewis and fighting legend Thomas Hearns has muted many of the positives the younger Klitschko used to bring to the ring.

It was apparent from early in the fight that the cautious approach would be extremely awkward for the 1996 Olympic gold-medallist

Klitschko did in fact do a fair job of re-enacting Lewis’ fights against Evander Holyfield, David Tua and Ray Mercer. However, he did not replicate very well the Lewis that harpooned Francis Botha, Shannon Briggs, Henry Akinwande and Andrew Golota.

There were flashes of the old Klitschko early in the fight, specifically in the second round, with Wladimir landing several power shots that stunned Williamson. But at just the moment when Klitschko was to come out with his best Lennox Lewis vs. Henry Akinwande, he suddenly switched to Lewis-Holyfield. Williamson appeared confused and unwilling to follow the script, doing his best Shannon Briggs for the audience. The hugging and hanging on was more extemporization from an obviously fearful Williamson. He then proceeded to dance around the ring like Nureyev in Swan Lake to the obvious chagrin of the viewing public.

In the 4th, Williamson went into his best Oliver McCall ersatz, which resulted in a knockdown. In truth, Klitschko was off-balance and moving back at the time the right-hand landed, thereby aiding the punch that didn’t seem to really stun Wladimir. To his credit, Klitschko went into an impromptu of Lewis in his fight with Hasim Rahman part 2, and succeeded in regaining a point in the mind of two of the judges, only losing the round 10-9, despite the knockdown. It was the first time the Ukrainian stared adversity straight in the eyes and responded with his heart on his sleeve. It was a moral victory of sorts, although his attempts at clinching were sloppy and not nearly what Steward had wanted from his pupil.

The fight came to an abrupt end at the end of round 5 because of a large gash on Klitschko’s forehead just above his right eye, the result of the fighters’ heads clashing violently just before the bell had rung. Referee Jay Nady immediately recognized the accidental head-butt and ring doctor, Margaret Goodman, advised that the fight be stopped because of the severity of the cut. It was a disappointing ending to a bout that lacked the necessary pizzazz to magnetize the audience.

In hindsight, the fight looked a lot worse than it was. Williamson pranced around the ring, waiting for what his handlers hoped would be a fatigued Klitschko to gradually deteriorate. Klitschko’s output was not high, which made it unlikely that fatigue would be an issue. The 6’7 inch 244-pounder was content to bide his time and jab all night. It was conservative and perhaps expected in light of the strange way the Brewster fight had ended.

Dr Steelhammer left many questions unanswered. He did prove that he could get up from a knockdown and fight back admirably. He also showed some mean spirit in the beginning of the fifth round that has been sorely lacking from about the Mercer fight. Most importantly, Klitschko emphatically cried out via Saturday’s performance that he cannot fight the way Manny Steward would like him to. There was very little Wladimir Klitschko pre-Sanders on exhibit. Bottled up and conventional, Klitschko is a shell of his former self. Gone was the once fluidness associated with his aesthetically pleasing style. Instead he looked gangly and awkward at times, which only served to have Klitschko’s finger that much closer to the panic button.

Emanuel Steward would be well advised to concede that Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko are not that similar. Klitschko has faster hands and doesn’t plant as well with his feet as the British fighter did in his run as champion. Klitschko can move around the ring quite comfortably when allowed to. He is off-balance and out of tune when trying to throw combinations from a flat-footed stance. He also handled several crisp shots from Williamson without much difficulty. Which means his chin is not nearly the problem that amateur pundits have been so eager to accentuate in their attempts to bury the 28-year old. He doesn’t need to fight overtly cautious, as the skills and talent are there to be a champion fighting his own unique style.

Emanuel Steward has stated on the record that he sees in Klitschko a lot of Lewis. He may have forgotten that Klitschko, arguably, has better offensive skills than Lennox ever possessed. His best defence is still the punishment he can unleash on his opponents.

Klitschko replicating Lewis will never get Wladimir anywhere near the top of the heavyweight heap. He will continue to labour and let mediocre fighters like Williamson dictate the length and tempo of the fight.

Wladimir Klitschko had it right for the most part against Brewster. The same fight plan for Saturday’s duel would have resulted in the one-sided knockout-victory Klitschko’s unrelenting critics require to even grant him a place in the heavyweight mix. That style would also dominate the greater majority of the division and put out on display the best offensive tools in the heavyweight division in years.

The Sanders fight did more than bring the Wladimir Klitschko express to a grinding halt. It appears to have changed the mental make-up of a once proud and confident fighter. If the identity crisis continues, we may very well never see the old Wladimir Klitschko.

Torino
10-05-2004, 03:16 PM
What site posted that? That is the opinion I've been trying to argue on this site.

I still believe that Wladimir can get back to his old self with his old trainer and a few W's

Winter
10-05-2004, 03:16 PM
This is a very good article. It was good. I need to see the old Wladimir again. This article was very truthful. I like how this article talked about the amateur pundints. I don't want to ever hear them. I only want to hear the true experts talk. II think Wladimir will be champion again. Thank you for this article.

Neuraxis
10-05-2004, 03:35 PM
I'm glad to see you guys enjoyed. Its a great article about what we have been talking about all along here. How long until some idiot comes in here and says Wlad's style hasn't changed?

techn9ne
10-05-2004, 03:50 PM
Wlad needs to switch to Ronnie Shields or Buddy McGirt in my opinion

techn9ne
10-05-2004, 03:50 PM
maybe even Roger Mayweather and uses the head tucked under the shoulder defense!

Neuraxis
10-05-2004, 04:08 PM
maybe even Roger Mayweather and uses the head tucked under the shoulder defense!

Or someone who has worked with him before like Tommy Brooks.

BrooklynBomber
10-05-2004, 05:38 PM
Wladimir's new style sucks.

MetalVomit
10-05-2004, 05:49 PM
good looking out on the wlad article

The Fix
10-05-2004, 05:57 PM
wlad needs buddy mcgirt. he has helped gatti and tarver greatly.... thanks neuraxis for the bad karma ,what a *****

Neuraxis
10-05-2004, 06:36 PM
wlad needs buddy mcgirt. he has helped gatti and tarver greatly.... thanks neuraxis for the bad karma ,what a *****

That's because I had noticed that I had received bad karma for a post I made disagreeing with something you said. Sorry if it wasn't you, but I suspect that it was. Its a lot better now being able to see who gives you what.

BrooklynBomber
10-05-2004, 09:28 PM
I think that he needs Roach. Wlad will never e good defensive wise. Does not have the size for a good defense. His best defense would be an offense and Roach is execellent at that.
Oh, and by the way what does Neuraxis means?(no offense)

techn9ne
10-05-2004, 10:34 PM
instant karma is gonna get get you... who do u think you are laughing in the face of love

-john lennon

The Fix
10-05-2004, 11:53 PM
That's because I had noticed that I had received bad karma for a post I made disagreeing with something you said. Sorry if it wasn't you, but I suspect that it was. Its a lot better now being able to see who gives you what.

ive never given bad karma to nobody there is no point, everybody is intitled to thier own opinion. i will give good karma though to a post that i agree with or if i like a person

Hurlex
10-06-2004, 12:11 AM
i think roach could help wlad..he can keep his old style but teach him different ways to use it..or mcgirt would be good also

Neuraxis
10-06-2004, 12:35 AM
ive never given bad karma to nobody there is no point, everybody is intitled to thier own opinion. i will give good karma though to a post that i agree with or if i like a person

Ok, my mistake, I'll make sure to give you some good Karma when I am able to again.

MetalVomit
10-06-2004, 12:49 AM
i completely forgot that wlad had Freddie Roach for a minute. I was hyped about that, and i forgot. I like Freddie Roach, look at the job he has done with James Toney. Plus my friend has glasses like him.haha

Neuraxis
10-06-2004, 12:55 AM
What would everyone here say was Wladimir's best performance? That is what fight did Wlad look the best in?

MetalVomit
10-06-2004, 01:12 AM
only saw highlights of the byrd fight. the best i saw Wlad was against Ray Mercer, which, i know haters, doesnt mean much. Either way he was tremendousn in thatfight

Neuraxis
10-06-2004, 01:16 AM
only saw highlights of the byrd fight. the best i saw Wlad was against Ray Mercer, which, i know haters, doesnt mean much. Either way he was tremendousn in thatfight

Which is the exact answer I was looking for. Guess who was involved in the training of Wladimir for that fight? You guess it folks Tommy Brooks.

MetalVomit
10-06-2004, 01:18 AM
Wlad looked ridiculous in that fight. i just happened to be taping it, it was the first time i ever saw wlad actually fight, i called all of my friends and had them see it. offensively, i simply could not believe it.

TheFairPole
10-06-2004, 05:30 AM
I don't care how old Mercer was in that fight... He was on a really good winning streak knocking guys out!!! He never had done to him what Wlad did!!! That was a excellent performance!!! Mercer had NO chance!!! I was actually worried a bit for Wlad until Mercer went down from that loud ass left hook in the 1st round!!! We need that Wlad back!!!

leff
10-24-2004, 12:56 PM
Now steward takes care of boxing style and tactic, and sdunek takes care of getting him into shape. Wlad needs too get back too his old style, manny wants too clone LL but Wlad never gonna ne LL , Wlad gonna be Wlad and let him fight that way.

lmnorw
02-26-2005, 08:56 PM
what wladimir need is to fight like he used to before sanders knocked him out just go for the ko's if you lose you lose but at least you lose like a man..the old wladamir would of knocked williamson out.but hey what do you mean he began to fight like shannon briggs?lol did you watch shannon briggs fight lennox?he jumped all over him and hurt him on more than on occasion and if he had better stamina who knows he might of won that fight..

Kimmy
02-26-2005, 09:04 PM
The damage is done to Klitscko. He seems to beeffected by the Sanders loss and i think any half decent fighter with a good punch can get him out of there. If David Tua were to jump on him he`d take him out. If Rahman jumped on him and went right hand crazy, he`d do it, so might Golota. I read the article and agree with most of it but the demons have seeded inside Klitscko head and Manny Steward won`t be able to remove them come a big fight!

freirui
02-26-2005, 10:01 PM
Wladimir Klitschko will be champion again!!!

joeboxer
02-26-2005, 10:07 PM
wlad might be a champion but he will never be the champion. especially if he won't fight his brother.

Slipx
02-26-2005, 10:09 PM
good article

and this is my opinion.

Once you fight on the world class level, it's hard to change styles..if you are a bull, that's your style..i think it has to do with a person's personality and mental makeup

imo you should never change styles, if you box from age 15 -24 in a boxer puncher style, you should stay that..now certain modifications to your own style, like maying adding a jab or stepping in with a jab (gatti) I highly approve of, but still,not all fighters can adapt to it like gatti did. i think klischko should ask manny to train him with his old style, if manny rejects like he did with hamed, tell him later and goto Dundee or Roach

RwK
02-26-2005, 10:11 PM
good article

and this is my opinion.

Once you fight on the world class level, it's hard to change styles..if you are a bull, that's your style..i think it has to do with a person's personality and mental makeup

imo you should never change styles, if you box from age 15 -24 in a boxer puncher style, you should stay that..now certain modifications to your own style, like maying adding a jab or stepping in with a jab (gatti) I highly approve of, but still,not all fighters can adapt to it like gatti did. i think klischko should ask manny to train him with his old style, if manny rejects like he did with hamed, tell him later and goto Dundee or Roach


I agree. Except I think a cord should be attached to Chris Byrd and any opponent he faces. He can keep his style, however; he needs to start cracking. :boxing:

Neuraxis
02-26-2005, 10:29 PM
what wladimir need is to fight like he used to before sanders knocked him out just go for the ko's if you lose you lose but at least you lose like a man..the old wladamir would of knocked williamson out.but hey what do you mean he began to fight like shannon briggs?lol did you watch shannon briggs fight lennox?he jumped all over him and hurt him on more than on occasion and if he had better stamina who knows he might of won that fight..

Have you seen Wlad vs. Shufford, Botha, or McCline? I'd say he hardly went for the KO outright during those fights. He has with the exception of a few fights been a very cautious fighter.