ya ya i dont care how much u dont like sturm but seriously if hopkins does beat eastman he HAS TO fight sturm unless he dumps the wbo AND the wbc title if im not mistaken ( i think sturm is number 2 or 3 in wbc standings) so will hopkins throw the wbo to avoid fighting sturm and possibly the wbc?

After 20 defenses, I don't think he's worried about titles anymore. He's after money.

Sturm isn't a big money fight unless Felix beats someone with a big name.

I'm surprised Bernard's "looking to" Glen Johnson at this point. But it appears with Johnson's 2 wins at the end of '04 that he's in better shape than Sturm. Sturm should have used the momentum from the DLH fight and fought another Top 10 opponent.

Actually he doesn't have to fight Sturm...First Trinidad is the mandatory also and most likely he will fight the winner of Tito-Winky cuz that's the only big payday for him right now...Nard needs to fight another star like Tito, Winky, or Taylor to make a ppv...

After 20 defenses, I don't think he's worried about titles anymore. He's after money.

Sturm isn't a big money fight unless Felix beats someone with a big name.

I'm surprised Bernard's "looking to" Glen Johnson at this point. But it appears with Johnson's 2 wins at the end of '04 that he's in better shape than Sturm. Sturm should have used the momentum from the DLH fight and fought another Top 10 opponent.
dont respond to these retarded threads
your only encouraging him
lol

how is this a retarded thread? and moeny cant play a factor in this because B hop HAS to fight sturm or he loses his titles and if tito loses and sturm beats bert wpuldnt that move him into number 1 in wbc cause tito lost?

how is this a retarded thread? and moeny cant play a factor in this because B hop HAS to fight sturm or he loses his titles and if tito loses and sturm beats bert wpuldnt that move him into number 1 in wbc cause tito lost?

Do you actually know Strum? Or are you from the same village or something, I don't get it.

After 20 defenses, I don't think he's worried about titles anymore. He's after money.

Sturm isn't a big money fight unless Felix beats someone with a big name.

I'm surprised Bernard's "looking to" Glen Johnson at this point. But it appears with Johnson's 2 wins at the end of '04 that he's in better shape than Sturm. Sturm should have used the momentum from the DLH fight and fought another Top 10 opponent.

Well, if it only would've been that easy for Felix. After he fought (and beat) DLH there were no too many opportunities for him to get his hands on any Top 10 opponent because most of them had already fights scheduled or are in a career (re)building process. Sturm is a high risk for medicore money.

That being said he fought some decent competition in Robert Frazier for the worthless WBO Intercontinental Title and knocked out former World Champ Hassine Cherifi (who is spent though). If I'm right he's got a fight scheduled against Bert Schenk (former WBO Champ). I really hope that he doesn't end up as a milk cow in handpicked fights for German TV.

I'd love to see him in action against Hopkins or Trinidad ... even Taylor'd be great. That's exactly what his career needs if he has (and he should've) the ambition to become the next undisputed Middleweight Champion.

This guy is my favourite fighter so I might be a bit biased.

Well, if it only would've been that easy for Felix. After he fought (and beat) DLH there were no too many opportunities for him to get his hands on any Top 10 opponent because most of them had already fights scheduled or are in a career (re)building process. Sturm is a high risk for medicore money.

That being said he fought some decent competition in Robert Frazier for the worthless WBO Intercontinental Title and knocked out former World Champ Hassine Cherifi (who is spent though). If I'm right he's got a fight scheduled against Bert Schenk (former WBO Champ). I really hope that he doesn't end up as a milk cow in handpicked fights for German TV.

I'd love to see him in action against Hopkins or Trinidad ... even Taylor'd be great. That's exactly what his career needs if he has (and he should've) the ambition to become the next undisputed Middleweight Champion.

This guy is my favourite fighter so I might be a bit biased.

Good post...Sturm needs to fight more here in the US, He needs to go against Taylor or Trinidad...

The only reason Hopkins would avoid Sturm is to avoid a pointless and meaningless exsercise that won`t pay out that much! If Hopkins ventures away from the middleweight division is has nothing to do with Sperm, i mean sturm.
Tito offers a decent payday at middleweight but considering their fight a few yrs ago not much of a challenge. Glen Johnson would bring lightheavyweight reconition but little else. I would venture to say, and this sounds a bit rediculous, the biggest payday for Hopkins would be Zab Judah. Hopkins can make 154 and if Judah were to come up that would be a huge payday with little risk. I`m sure Judah nut huggers will make some excuse as to why Judah would win, but that ok, it`ll only help sell the fight.
Apart from that, i can`t see any meaningful fights for Hop, he`d just have to tread old groud!

yeah omg first person i think to post that felix sturm vs jt would be real nice to see some skill from both these guys jt has shown some i want him to actually fight some1 with power to see his chin

[QUOTE=Kimmy]The only reason Hopkins would avoid Sturm is to avoid a pointless and meaningless exsercise QUOTE]

Amen to that

yeah man, Who the hell is sturm???? I dont want to see that fight. Maybe after Sturm beats sumone good then he might have a chance against Jermain Taylor whos the goign to hold the titles, since B_HOP would be retired by that time

Sturm is a sack of **** with a jab. I'd knock him out.

A sack of **** with a jab, huh? You don't have any respect for a guy who dedicates his life to the sport that you love, who tortures his body and soul so that you can see him compete? And you describe yourself as a boxing fan? ...what a joke.

Most people here haven't seen a fight of Felix besides the DLH one, yet they keep talking and talking as if they could judge a fighter on one fight. What other fights of Felix Sturm have you seen Kimmy? What did he improve in his last two outings? What was his best performance? What was his worst? Boxrec.com won't help you there mate. I've seen a lot of Hopkins and I aknowledge him as a great champion. Does that mean that I have to think that he doesn't get older and that there are no people out there with the style and ability to beat him on a given night? ...please.

If I don't know about someone or something I ask, research or I keep my mouth shout. Some of you should consider that the next time before they decide to share their valuable opinion.

ya ya i dont care how much u dont like sturm but seriously if hopkins does beat eastman he HAS TO fight sturm unless he dumps the wbo AND the wbc title if im not mistaken ( i think sturm is number 2 or 3 in wbc standings) so will hopkins throw the wbo to avoid fighting sturm and possibly the wbc?


i'd rather see him fight Jermain Taylor

ya ya i dont care how much u dont like sturm but seriously if hopkins does beat eastman he HAS TO fight sturm unless he dumps the wbo AND the wbc title if im not mistaken ( i think sturm is number 2 or 3 in wbc standings) so will hopkins throw the wbo to avoid fighting sturm and possibly the wbc?


Bro STURM is really a good fighter . . . but Sturm is not that awesome for him to intimidate BH into dumping his belts just to avoid him :p Common it doesn't make sense at all.

Do you actually know Strum? Or are you from the same village or something, I don't get it.

This is a ridiculous thread.

Hopkins woould not get touched by sturm

This is a ridiculous thread.

Hopkins woould not get touched by sturm


Hopkins has said it before hes not vacating his belts for no one, its f_cking hilraious, how he faced better opponents than sturm, which brings a less threat, and now hes going to throw a belt away to avoid that fight?...sturm aint superman, we all saw what a blown up welterweight did with sturm, it was a draw, but guys how the hell did a guy who started at 130 gave trouble to a middleweight, DLH skills are far better than sturm and thats what helped him in that fight, or else sturm would of knock DLH the f-ck out..

Sterum is much better than people give him credit for but he will get koed by bhop. ;)

i don't think hopkins will have the titles after he fights eastman

Sterum is much better than people give him credit for but he will get koed by bhop. ;)

hes good i give him that but the topic is that Hopkins is going to throw his titles away to not face him, L M F A O !

I think hopkins knows he can kill him, so no he wont throw away his titles to duck him.
peace

sturm would be number 1 contender if all belts excpet wbc if tito and eastman lose.

ya ya i dont care how much u dont like sturm but seriously if hopkins does beat eastman he HAS TO fight sturm unless he dumps the wbo AND the wbc title if im not mistaken ( i think sturm is number 2 or 3 in wbc standings) so will hopkins throw the wbo to avoid fighting sturm and possibly the wbc?

B-Hop scared of Sturm???
seriusly are you doing crack man??

If Hopkins beats Eastman, he's dropping the titles and looking for a bigger fight regardless of who his mandatory is.

Oh yeah Sturm is a man too be feared for sure...with his big 7 knock outs. :D gimme a freakin break

Oh yeah Sturm is a man too be feared for sure...with his big 7 knock outs. :D gimme a freakin break

Or ten. Ten, seven, whatever.

Who Gives A **** Whos #1 Contender!

We All Know Tito Is The #1 Contender

Felix Sturm is a piece of Euro-**** with no power.

Go kill yourself SturmRules.

SturmRules- I like Sturm n he is a good boxer, but your actin like he is the greatest and that everyone is scared of him, u talk about him in a way that makes everyone else hate him, he's got lots of potential, and dont listen to others sayin he sucks cuz he doesnt, but Hopkins aint duckin him.

sturm is nothing. if he deserved a shot against hopkins he would have beaten the smaller out of shape dlh. i thought sturm might have won that fight but he should have stopped dlh.

Felix Sturm is a piece of Euro-**** with no power.

Go kill yourself SturmRules.


first of all cant u get banned for that?

second of all i never said B-hop was scared of sturm all i said is that would B-hop trash a title so he didnt haev to fight sturm cause he is going to have to. u all say he wont that means he is gonna fight sturm lmao wake up guys and read a little clearer

Listen up and listen good. Nard has said, more times than I can count, that all he cares for is the 20th defense and, after that, he has nothing left to fight for. Eastman is #20 and, after that fight, he's just looking for money. Everyone knows he's the Undisputed Middleweight Champion and he doesn't need the belts to prove it. Does Kostya Tszyu need all the belts to proclaim his reign at 140? Nope! Neither does B-Hop.

Hopkins will fight for money after Eastman, period. He will fight Tito or Winky (the winner) or will move up to 175 and fight Johnson, whichever brings the most $$ to his bank account. He is only going to fight once or twice after the Eastman fight and he is going to retire before the end of the year. He has said so in countless interviews because it's a promise he made to his mother before she passed (not to fight past 40 years old). He turns 41 next January so all his fighting has to be done by then.

Also, he said after the DLH fight that he doesn't care for the WBO belt because he doesn't want to pay the sanctioning fees for another organization. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Winky and just lets the belts go to the "regular" champions so he can fight who he wants to fight and not have to worry about sanctioning fees since the money will be there regardless.

first of all cant u get banned for that?

second of all i never said B-hop was scared of sturm all i said is that would B-hop trash a title so he didnt haev to fight sturm cause he is going to have to. u all say he wont that means he is gonna fight sturm lmao wake up guys and read a little clearer

Like Hop cares about the titles
he is 40 and we all know he is the
best middle weight in the world
he doesnt need titles to prove it.

40 and he is better than anyone else
doesnt that say something??

If Sturm says he feels he's not yet ready for Tito...the thought of fighting Hopkins will make him **** on himself..

so rightuppercut and prbox the answer is yes Hop would throw away belts to not fight sturm

so rightuppercut and prbox the answer is yes Hop would throw away belts to not fight sturm

yeah now on to the next question
even if b-hop gave him a fight
could Sturm win???
does he stand a chance against the Executioner??

I say Hell NO

they'll never fight so we wont know will we?

they'll never fight so we wont know will we?

They wont,
yet we all know the answer.

so rightuppercut and prbox the answer is yes Hop would throw away belts to not fight sturm
Yes, I think he would allow the WBO to take their title back instead of fighting Sturm. Actually, I don't think it will matter. The organizations will give him an exemption (allow him to fight one fighter before his mandatory) to fight Tito/Winky because the sanctioning fees for that fight would be 10x what they would for Sturm/Hopkins. After that fight, however, expect to hear Hopkins anounce his retirement. He won't even have to get rid of any titles and still not fight Sturm.