Manny Steward's pick, from Michael Woods over at maxboxing -

Also, and ponder this before you hit the bookie: Manny likes Hatton to upset Tszyu. "I'm going with Hatton," Steward said. "I like his activity level. And Hatton is the bigger man. His style can give Tszyu problems. It's the right time for Ricky. He's tired of being protected."


Steward also admitted he pulled the plug on the Harris/Hatton fight, as he didn't like Viv's chances. Obviously has a high opinion or Ricky then.

Using Manny Steward as a predictor of fights is like saying vaseline can affect your boxing performance.

Ok, Maybe I'm ripping a little too hard on Manny. But I don't see Tsyzu having that much problem with Hatton.

Manny must be on Hatton's payroll, somehow.

It's a ploy. Steward knows better.

Is it possible that Manny knows Hatton from his days training Lennox? I just thought that they'd be bound to run into each other now and then. Probably why he likes him. I respect Steward quite a bit but I can't see him being right with this one. People always count Kostya out...

maybe i thoght it was interesting he came clean on harris as well.
ive not read anyone writing off zoo tho Bomb?
if anything other way round i have it 60-40 in zoo's favour but i dont think its going to be as one sided as many make out on here.

just my thoughts.

I think Hatton will bully zoo, if he can avoid the right hand of zoo on his way in, and get zoo pushed back Hatton has the power to hurt zoo and slow him down with them big body shots.

This fight depends on zoo's counter punching if he fights like he did against phillips Hatton will win, He wasn't that great on the back foot against Tackie but Tackie couldn't hurt him. This is what makes this such a good fight if hatton does get inside he has the power to hurt zoo.

Steward is saying this because he knows that people who bet on boxing will watch the interview, and place their bets in hatton's favor.

While Steward will have 250,000.00 on tszyu in round one probably.

I think Hatton will bully zoo, if he can avoid the right hand of zoo on his way in, and get zoo pushed back Hatton has the power to hurt zoo and slow him down with them big body shots.

This fight depends on zoo's counter punching if he fights like he did against phillips Hatton will win, He wasn't that great on the back foot against Tackie but Tackie couldn't hurt him. This is what makes this such a good fight if hatton does get inside he has the power to hurt zoo.

When quick, click boxers can't avoid it backing up how do you expect Hatton to do it coming in?

And did I just hear you say Hatton will BULLY Tszyu?!?!? :D

When quick, click boxers can't avoid it backing up how do you expect Hatton to do it coming in?

And did I just hear you say Hatton will BULLY Tszyu?!?!? :D

Yes Hatton will try every rough tactic possable,and get away with it.

I think allot of people will be shocked at Hatton`s performance. Hatton has been forced to fight allot of guys who shouldn`t be in the ring with him ut against decent comp ( tackie and Philips ) he beats them up. I pick Hatton to defeat Zoo. I`m not a Hat nut hugger, i`ve just seen about 30 of this guys fights and i tell you he is the real deal.

Hatton will KO Kostya Zoo

I think allot of people will be shocked at Hatton`s performance. Hatton has been forced to fight allot of guys who shouldn`t be in the ring with him ut against decent comp ( tackie and Philips ) he beats them up. I pick Hatton to defeat Zoo. I`m not a Hat nut hugger, i`ve just seen about 30 of this guys fights and i tell you he is the real deal.

he's the real deal when he beats somebody real. Wasn't Phillips closing into 40 years old when Hatton beat him?

Yes Hatton will try every rough tactic possable,and get away with it.

Tszyu's well know for his ability to fight rough, i know Hatton could bully most other light welters easily but i really doubt he could do it to Tszyu.

I'm pretty shocked Manny picks Tszyu, i wasnt expecting it but thats not saying i dont believe him, its a good styles match.

he's the real deal when he beats somebody real. Wasn't Phillips closing into 40 years old when Hatton beat him?

Yeah, but Phillips wasnt much better/faster in his 20's. It was a good win against a good stepping stone opponent. But IMO Hatton would do a lot better against Tszyu after fighting someone at Vivian Harris's level.

he's the real deal when he beats somebody real. Wasn't Phillips closing into 40 years old when Hatton beat him?

As he was when he took Mitchell to a split decision 5 months earlier. He was 34 when he beat KT I think.

It's just a marketing scheme to attract interest to the fight. These are supposed to be two of the best fighters in boxing and Steward would make the sport look uncompetitive if he said Tsyzu was just gonna murder him, like most fans are saying. I mean really, boxing looks bad enough already. We don't need one of our best contenders looking like dog****.

Tsyzu by KO

As I once said Hatton is gonna shock the world.... and fall 3 times from one punch. Its gonna be even bigger than the chicken dance. :D But seriously, dont listen to Manny, he has been smoking some good rasta lately and doesnot know what he is talking about. He is a great trainer but a ****ty analyst. hate to say it to British fans(well actually I am enjoying it) but Kostya is a sure bet in this fight.

As I once said Hatton is gonna shock the world.... and fall 3 times from one punch. Its gonna be even bigger than the chicken dance. :D But seriously, dont listen to Manny, he has been smoking some good rasta lately and doesnot know what he is talking about. He is a great trainer but a ****ty analyst. hate to say it to British fans(well actually I am enjoying it) but Kostya is a sure bet in this fight.
Yeah, there's just no way that "experts" can accurately predict Hatton's performance in this fight. How could they? The man has never been in the ring with anybody like Zoo.

Yeah, there's just no way that "experts" can accurately predict Hatton's performance in this fight. How could they? The man has never been in the ring with anybody like Zoo.

The opposite is true too

Manny Steward's pick, from Michael Woods over at maxboxing -

Also, and ponder this before you hit the bookie: Manny likes Hatton to upset Tszyu. "I'm going with Hatton," Steward said. "I like his activity level. And Hatton is the bigger man. His style can give Tszyu problems. It's the right time for Ricky. He's tired of being protected."


Steward also admitted he pulled the plug on the Harris/Hatton fight, as he didn't like Viv's chances. Obviously has a high opinion or Ricky then.

This is the kind of logic that is killing Wladimir. The guy clearly must have hit his head after Lewis retired.

Hey dont listen to the experts. They all have the same boxing knowledge as a good boxing fan. So if you follow boxing long enough and have been boxing yourself you dont need to listen to the junk they say. USE YOUR HEAD. I mean I can write an article predicting an outcome of any fight and I will have as much credibility as ony other "expert".

As he was when he took Mitchell to a split decision 5 months earlier. He was 34 when he beat KT I think.

Still, a 24 year old Hatton vs a 39 year old Phillips. Youth is a big asset, specially with Hatton's overwhelming style. Phillips can't keep up. Hatton too active...

This is the kind of logic that is killing Wladimir. The guy clearly must have hit his head after Lewis retired.
Hell ye. Guy is trying to teach him some weird tricks and poor kid keeps on loosing :mad:

The opposite is true too

Tszyu's better than anyone Hatton ever face but i think it would be easy enough to find sparring partners to mimic him, i doubt Tszyu could say the same about Hatton.

Tszyu's never faced a style like Hattons, its impossible to predict the outcome.

The opposite is true too
Yeah, you're right to a certain extent. I think Zoo has seen opponents that are closer to Hatton's level than vice versa. He's seen superior speed in Judah and simply commenced to make him do the tango in front of thousands. He's seen a workhorse fighter in Sharmba Mitchell and easily disposed of him after being off for like two years. And these are just his most recent fights.

Still, a 24 year old Hatton vs a 39 year old Phillips. Youth is a big asset, specially with Hatton's overwhelming style. Phillips can't keep up. Hatton too active...

I agree mate and I think KT will have the same problem. Hatton was only 24 when he fought Phillips and still learning. He's without doubt a better fighter now.

Yeah, you're right to a certain extent. I think Zoo has seen opponents that are closer to Hatton's level than vice versa. He's seen superior speed in Judah and simply commenced to make him do the tango in front of thousands. He's seen a workhorse fighter in Sharmba Mitchell and easily disposed of him after being off for like two years. And these are just his most recent fights.

I agree 100% that you can't compare the level of opposition yet but I don't think anyone could have dealt with his victims any better than Hatton did. Alot of the people on here make out Zoo to be indestructable but 6 months ago they were saying Mitchell was gonna take him. KT has flaws just as Hatton does and it could be that Hatton has the tools to exploit them. I think that Hatton would have more problems with a super-slick boxer than KT, right hand bomb aside.

Tszyu's never faced a style like Hattons, its impossible to predict the outcome.

I know mate and the wait's killing me. :D

I agree 100% that you can't compare the level of opposition yet but I don't think anyone could have dealt with his victims any better than Hatton did. Alot of the people on here make out Zoo to be indestructable but 6 months ago they were saying Mitchell was gonna take him. KT has flaws just as Hatton does and it could be that Hatton has the tools to exploit them. I think that Hatton would have more problems with a super-slick boxer than KT, right hand bomb aside.
Well said.

I know mate and the wait's killing me. :D

Can you imagine what it will be like fight night :eek:

I just hope he goes out and takes it too Tszyu, no ****ing around!!

Can you imagine what it will be like fight night :eek:

I just hope he goes out and takes it too Tszyu, no ****ing around!!

The atmosphere's going to be electric. He needs to get into him from the off to set the tone if he's gonna win.

Can you imagine what it will be like fight night :eek:

I just hope he goes out and takes it too Tszyu, no ****ing around!!

are you going to be there?????

The atmosphere's going to be electric. He needs to get into him from the off to set the tone if he's gonna win.

He normally does and i think its key to success, shame Tsyzu has the power to win with one shot.

I've never seen so many fighters lose confindence as quickly as Hattons opponents do, i think a lot of fighter under estimate him, hopefuly Tszyu will do the same.

are you going to be there?????

No, i left my girl in charge of ticket ordering and she forgot.

She's still making up for it with blow jobs!! :D

He normally does and i think its key to success, shame Tsyzu has the power to win with one shot.

I've never seen so many fighters lose confindence as quickly as Hattons opponents do, i think a lot of fighter under estimate him, hopefuly Tszyu will do the same.

I know mate. I'm sure they see flaws when they watch his videos but doing something about them is a different matter when he's pounding on them non-stop. :D

I seem to remember about 80% of "experts" also saying that Sharmba would be too good for KT and that the lay-off would hurt KT, and Sharmba will put to much presure on KT etc.................

This is going to be the BIGGEST moment in Hatton's life and he is basically stepping into the ring with a legend, whose power with the one punch Hatton is most susceptible too, has been demonstrated time and again. Nobody thinks that he may be a bit nervous and even cautious in the first couple of rounds?

I say this because if he does not come out with all guns blazing from the opening bell, he is going to get hurt, and real bad.

I think that if he does what alot of people seem to think he will and pressure KT from the opening bell it is his best chance to throw KT off his game. BUT, we are talking about one of the smartest, most gifted and patient boxers in the world today and if Hatton blinks or hesitates at all, this fight is not going to last long. Nobody is as clinical a finisher as KT.

I know ya all british cheering for the underdog in hatton and compare how before Tszyu fought Mitchell everybody were saying Kostya gonna get laid out and than he won and compare that everybody is saying that Hatton is gonna get KTFO'ed and he is gonna win but it is completely different this time. Most people were picking Mitchell because of the 2 year layoff and most thought that it will affect Tszyu greatly and in Hatton's case he (Hatton) did not have any Layoffs and gonna fight his 100%.
Also dont listen to all these experts better go to some bookie site(Vegas bookies are the best at picking winners) and ask them.
These guys know the deal. BTW most of the bookies picked Kostya to beat Mitchell and not vice-versa. And dont even hope that Kostya will underestimate Hatton. He learns too well from his own mistakes.

I don't really trust Steward I mean he predicted naseem would tko mab in 3 rounds and we all know how that turned out.

What are the odds on the fight? I'm assuming that they favor Tsyzu, but by how much? And do you think the odds in England will favor Tsyzu more heavily so that they wouldn't have to make such a large payoff if Hatton pulled it off?

I know that Tszyu is heavily favored in Vegas and I heard that english bookies also favor him heavily. Dont know the odds though. I am not the player type.

I agree mate and I think KT will have the same problem. Hatton was only 24 when he fought Phillips and still learning. He's without doubt a better fighter now.

I like Hatton's technical skills, activity level mostly his body work, I just don't know who to blame for his lack of big name opponents, him or Warren so I guess I kinda blame it on both. I'd actually give him more of chance its just that Tszyu hits SOO DAMNN HAAARRD at this weight it doesn't seem human. The difference in this fight would be Hatton's chin and if it holds, it actually looks real good for him in my book.

I know that Tszyu is heavily favored in Vegas and I heard that english bookies also favor him heavily. Dont know the odds though. I am not the player type.

UK odds favour Tszyu but i dont think the bookies favour him heavily, its not worth a bet on either!!

Tszyu 1/2

Draw 25/1

Hatton 6/4

It's just a marketing scheme to attract interest to the fight. These are supposed to be two of the best fighters in boxing and Steward would make the sport look uncompetitive if he said Tsyzu was just gonna murder him, like most fans are saying. I mean really, boxing looks bad enough already. We don't need one of our best contenders looking like dog****.


fights sold out mate.
you cant get a ticket for love nor money.
sold out in a week 22 thousand. so no need for marketing

are you going to be there?????

of course. :)

of course. :)

you lucky **** .... the MEN w/ ricky fighting seems like MSG when tito fights .... bananas

you know what i'm doing june 4th .... getting married. i'm going to need to ask someone on this board to send me a text message to my cell phone or something cuz i'm going to be thinking about that mf'in fight the ENTIRE reception.

i need to be slick about it cuz my girl told me she doesn't want to hear anything about it during our big day.

you lucky **** .... the MEN w/ ricky fighting seems like MSG when tito fights .... bananas

you know what i'm doing june 4th .... getting married. i'm going to need to ask someone on this board to send me a text message to my cell phone or something cuz i'm going to be thinking about that mf'in fight the ENTIRE reception.

i need to be slick about it cuz my girl told me she doesn't want to hear anything about it during our big day.


WAS ON THE FONE AT 10.01 THE DAY THE TICKETS CAME OUT (came on sale at 10). I could have gone press but im going with my mates, plus i wanna enjoy it not be sat there with a pen attached to my wrist all night.

You sure you wanna get married mate if she is anti boxing? just joking dude, wish you all the best and much happiness with your good lady.

I would text ya but i cant promise that at 4 am british time ill remember......but will give it a go if you pm me closer too, just dont blame me if i do forget ill do my best.. :)

http://www.britishboxing.net/news.p...9251995a62c1ed3

last time i was there. :cool:

I like Hatton's technical skills, activity level mostly his body work, I just don't know who to blame for his lack of big name opponents, him or Warren so I guess I kinda blame it on both. I'd actually give him more of chance its just that Tszyu hits SOO DAMNN HAAARRD at this weight it doesn't seem human. The difference in this fight would be Hatton's chin and if it holds, it actually looks real good for him in my book.

I actually gave this a lot of thought and came to the conclusion that these guys are really smart. I'm actually surprised they are stepping up the competition level so high. Think about it. If you are a professional boxer selling tons of tickets to win fights against lower risk opponents and you can keep doing it, why stop? This is a business first. So I think whoever kept him at the same level always fighting at MEN be it him or Warren really did him a major service. And now he gets his chance to silence his critics. And unless he really disappoints in his fight with Tsyzu he will still be able to sell tickets at the MEN.

simple answer is he wants it and the fans want it.

we are fed up with seeing him fight the likes of stewart and oliveria we need to see if he can be a great and how good he is.

as long as he perform s well and doesnt disgrace himself his stock wont suffe, it didnt hurt gatti did it! ;)

simple answer is he wants it and the fans want it.

we are fed up with seeing him fight the likes of stewart and oliveria we need to see if he can be a great and how good he is.

as long as he perform s well and doesnt disgrace himself his stock wont suffe, it didnt hurt gatti did it! ;)


Very true. And how amazing would a Gatti Hatton fight be? I would want it in NYC though or at least Atlantic City. That would be a great fight that could lead to another trilogy.

yeah two come forward fightewrs with big hearts ship it in!!! :cool:

He's seen a workhorse fighter in Sharmba Mitchell and easily disposed of him after being off for like two years.

Sharmba Mitchell is no damn workhorse. He is a boxer first, and he tried that **** and got whacked, just like Judah.

Hatton is a real workhorse, and he has more of a chance than those other two fools of winning. Sometimes the way to kill the beast is to overwhelm him.

Don't underestimate Hatton just because he was protected for seemingly so long.

What I'm saying is, boxers can't touch Zoo, you have to bang him. You can't play with him and try to outsmart him or he will just time you and whack you. Hatton isn't going to worry about that, he's just going to attack that body, and Zoo certainly could fold.

This fight is a pick-em.

http://www.britishboxing.net/news.p...9251995a62c1ed3

last time i was there. :cool:

my girl's a convert. she really enjoys the sweet science, just that, shes also turned into the anit-bride so i don't wanna piss her off on our day.

dude, the link is a dead one. i get "page cannot be displayed" .... i'll pm close to fight date so you can HOPEFULLY text me! and send me some pics too from the MEN!

my girl's a convert. she really enjoys the sweet science, just that, shes also turned into the anit-bride so i don't wanna piss her off on our day.

dude, the link is a dead one. i get "page cannot be displayed" .... i'll pm close to fight date so you can HOPEFULLY text me! and send me some pics too from the MEN!

Baya excited about a Hatton fight, WTF :eek:

*elveiel sits down and takes a deep breath*

Ok, Maybe I'm ripping a little too hard on Manny. But I don't see Tsyzu having that much problem with Hatton.


Neither do I. I like Manny alot, and have serious respect for him and his knowledge of the sport, but totally disagree with him on this. And as for Rick being tired of the protection, if thats true why is this fight taking place in England? I know all about the air times, etc..but we all know that it could just as easily be worked out and take place here or in Australia.

Neither do I. I like Manny alot, and have serious respect for him and his knowledge of the sport, but totally disagree with him on this. And as for Rick being tired of the protection, if thats true why is this fight taking place in England? I know all about the air times, etc..but we all know that it could just as easily be worked out and take place here or in Australia.

Its like banging my head against a brick wall!!

Its like banging my head against a brick wall!!

I hate that I've made you even think that cause I've said the same thing about debating with some of the Klitschko fans before..and I didnt mean it in a nice way either :(
I'll leave the matter be where youre concerned from now on okay

I hate that I've made you even think that cause I've said the same thing about debating with some of the Klitschko fans before..and I didnt mean it in a nice way either :(
I'll leave the matter be where youre concerned from now on okay

****ing hell TL, i'm only joking!! :D its not like your views on this fight come as a shock to me :p

****ing hell TL, i'm only joking!! :D its not like your views on this fight come as a shock to me :p

I know..I've never been a "quiet" person when it comes to opinions :D

you lucky **** .... the MEN w/ ricky fighting seems like MSG when tito fights .... bananas

you know what i'm doing june 4th .... getting married. i'm going to need to ask someone on this board to send me a text message to my cell phone or something cuz i'm going to be thinking about that mf'in fight the ENTIRE reception.

i need to be slick about it cuz my girl told me she doesn't want to hear anything about it during our big day.

Married huh? Early congrats to you and her then :)

Baya excited about a Hatton fight, WTF :eek:

*elveiel sits down and takes a deep breath*

dude, our spats came in under the context that "hatton is the greatest" type stuff. never did i say i didn't like him, hes one of the fuqqin' most exciting fighters out there - i think he'll lose to tzuyu, but if he, God forbid, beat tzuyu ... i'll ... i'll ... i wouldn't know what the hell to do dude.

two thing's are for certain - we'll have a VERY exciting british 140lb champ w/ all the major belts and i'll have to take a lot of **** from you and the whole lot at www.rickyhitmanhatton.com.

i'll be very excited for the UK, that they FINALLY have a bonafide world champion and i won't knock a good champ, ever, even if you do like him. but i'm one to never back away from eating crow ... anything for the better of our sport!

Married huh? Early congrats to you and her then :)

why, thank you :)

dude, our spats came in under the context that "hatton is the greatest" type stuff. never did i say i didn't like him, hes one of the fuqqin' most exciting fighters out there - i think he'll lose to tzuyu, but if he, God forbid, beat tzuyu ... i'll ... i'll ... i wouldn't know what the hell to do dude.

two thing's are for certain - we'll have a VERY exciting british 140lb champ w/ all the major belts and i'll have to take a lot of **** from you and the whole lot at www.rickyhitmanhatton.com.

i'll be very excited for the UK, that they FINALLY have a bonafide world champion and i won't knock a good champ, ever, even if you do like him. but i'm one to never back away from eating crow ... anything for the better of our sport!

Wow, you wrote all that for me!! I've never said Hatton the greatest, thats a little too much pressure to put on a good talent. I just think he's got ability and he takes too much **** for his fight locations.

Take the message as it was intended baya, a joke. Our little spat is just a joke.

P.s. Cotto aint all that :p

My opinion of Steward continues to worsen. The man is an idiot

Wow, you wrote all that for me!! I've never said Hatton the greatest, thats a little too much pressure to put on a good talent. I just think he's got ability and he takes too much **** for his fight locations.

Take the message as it was intended baya, a joke. Our little spat is just a joke.

P.s. Cotto aint all that :p

i'm very aware that it was a joke you fool, i just ... realized that i think, i may like hatton a lot more than i've ever admitted to.

i think i gotta yack now ....

i'm very aware that it was a joke you fool, i just ... realized that i think, i may like hatton a lot more than i've ever admitted to.

i think i gotta yack now ....

i know, the fact you have turned out to be quite cool makes me wanna yack, i had got used to the idea of thinking your an ******* too much.

Once people forget the bull**** sounding the Hatton situation and watch the guy, he's got some talent. He's also a very good fighter to watch.

I know you think Tszyu will win, but who do you want to win?

why, thank you :)

why, youre welcome :D

I agree 100% that you can't compare the level of opposition yet but I don't think anyone could have dealt with his victims any better than Hatton did. Alot of the people on here make out Zoo to be indestructable but 6 months ago they were saying Mitchell was gonna take him. KT has flaws just as Hatton does and it could be that Hatton has the tools to exploit them. I think that Hatton would have more problems with a super-slick boxer than KT, right hand bomb aside.

When I saw Hatton in his first fight, I tipped him as a future champion. He has improved immensely. Importantly, he has not sustained damage.
If he has learned the tools of the trade, he should be capable of avoiding (to a large degree) the predictable right hand of Zoo's.

I am of the opinion that he is too strong for Zoo. A fascinating work rate is in his favour.

Prediction: Zoo meets his match. If not, then Zoo is a great in my estimation. Because, it's going to take a great fighter to beat Hatton at this stage of his career. Zoo does take a punch well though. But, I've never seen anyone really attack his body, the way that Hatton is sure to do.

i know, the fact you have turned out to be quite cool makes me wanna yack, i had got used to the idea of thinking your an ******* too much.

Once people forget the bull**** sounding the Hatton situation and watch the guy, he's got some talent. He's also a very good fighter to watch.

I know you think Tszyu will win, but who do you want to win?

i want hatton to win, my fear is that he'd never leave the UK ... but then again if you beat KT in convincing fasion ... i guess that makes you the next best thing in the 140's and you fight where ever the fuqq you wanna fight.

if he does indeed beat him, i'll be glad cuz he seems like a good young champ.

him and cotto is all i want, in a very heterosexual boxing type of way. imagine a fight btwn them two, they'd never talk **** to each other. i figure them to be real respectable.