im just curious to know what you guys think is to old to get into boxing and be serious about it!

Honestly, if you want to be a PBF, Roy Jones, or a DelaHoya of an era you have to start early. Like at least 9 or 10. If you want to be a good fighter, maybe great. I think the latest you can start is 17, but that's just me. Some fighter's have natural talent, but learning to how parry, slip, counterpunch, feint takes years of practice in the gym.

During your early teens is a great time to start. After 18 you might not reach your full potential but you could still be a good fighter.

Foreman started at 16 but he was blessed with size and great strength.

If you want to be a pro boxer then you definetely should start real young, early/mid teens at the latest. I remember reading the Bernard Hopkins won his first tournament at the age of 9. So if you wanna be a world class fighter like B-Hop, then you have to start real young. But, if your like me and you do it for the fitness part of it and you just really love boxing then its really never too late. I joined my local boxing gym at 28, and it`s one of the best things i`ve ever done. I`m 6-3, and since I`ve started boxing I`ve gone from 235 lbs to about 205, and I spar a couple times a week. So basically what I`m saying is if you wanna be world champion start young. If not then it`s really never too late.

Even then guys like Rocky Marciano, Ray Mercer, Jess Willard and Michael Grant started when they were older than twenty. There were many more but Marciano is the only all time great I can think of who started after the age of twenty.

Even then guys like Rocky Marciano, Ray Mercer, Jess Willard and Michael Grant started when they were older than twenty. There were many more but Marciano is the only all time great I can think of who started after the age of twenty.

Yeah, heavyweights can get away with starting a bit later it seems, generally all of the great lighter weight fighters start pretty young.

To add to this, I think that the reason why so many great fighters start young is because young fighters are very coachable. You never see a nine year old thinking he knows more than his coach.

I remember watching the contender last year...and i think it was joey gilbert who started when he went to college...he was pretty good..had the heart of a lion and done a pretty good job against Manfredo...

Anything is possible..

Even then guys like Rocky Marciano, Ray Mercer, Jess Willard and Michael Grant started when they were older than twenty. There were many more but Marciano is the only all time great I can think of who started after the age of twenty.
yea
to bad he didn't start earlier because he would have been able to have more then 12 amateur fights



I don't know what the age is for if you want to be pro but i mean i see guys in my gym that are in there 60's just doing it to keep in shape so in all honesty your never to old to start, but if you want to be a champ earlier is better

i started at 19. and i have alot of what ppl have that have been in boxing for years. its like i cheated on a video game to jump levels :D

Aint no cheatin' when its comes to jumping levels. 19 is in no way too kate to start. You tell those guys that say that that they are just "hatin'". You will have to work harder then the guys who started before you but you can do whatever you set your mind and heart too. Take 2 to 3 years in the amatuers and fight as often as you can. Sparring is important and you will need it almost constantly to grow like you'll need to in such a short time. But I believe that you can do it. Work ethic is everything right now.

Rockin' :boxing:

Aint no cheatin' when its comes to jumping levels. 19 is in no way too kate to start. You tell those guys that say that that they are just "hatin'". You will have to work harder then the guys who started before you but you can do whatever you set your mind and heart too. Take 2 to 3 years in the amatuers and fight as often as you can. Sparring is important and you will need it almost constantly to grow like you'll need to in such a short time. But I believe that you can do it. Work ethic is everything right now.

Rockin' :boxing:


no way i'll stay in the amatuers for that long. im always in fear something will happen to me and i wont be able to box ne more. but when it comes down to it exprience and really **** cause when your in the ring its u and him. and like tyson once said every1 has a game plan before they get hit.plus my body is still growing muscle at a extreme speed. i might be hitting in august 185 or something. maybe im suppost to be up there. hell it could even be a sign :D

earlier is mo better, u got get used to it b4 u can dish it, but there have been exceptions to that rule b4

Its your life Mystyal, you will do as you see fit. Just trying to help you see things that you have not seen yet.

Rockin' :boxing:

im just curious to know what you guys think is to old to get into boxing and be serious about it!


How old are you ?
Younger the better. You gain a wealth of experience in the amatuers. All the top boxers had extensive amatuer experience. But as long as your coordinated , tough and willing to the work then I geuss starting late wouldnt be so bad either.

Its your life Mystyal, you will do as you see fit. Just trying to help you see things that you have not seen yet.

Rockin' :boxing:


yeah i know. but not every1 can adjust to the amatuer fighting style. my style is already a pro like style im really calm and calculate my punches instead of throwing all crazy.stayin in the amatuer's for 2 or 3 years is long as hell i would be a pro at 23 oe 24 way to long for me.jus need to sharpen my skills and go at it. i already told myself if boxing doesnt work out im going back to school so theres no biggie there.

yeah i know. but not every1 can adjust to the amatuer fighting style. my style is already a pro like style im really calm and calculate my punches instead of throwing all crazy.stayin in the amatuer's for 2 or 3 years is long as hell i would be a pro at 23 oe 24 way to long for me.jus need to sharpen my skills and go at it. i already told myself if boxing doesnt work out im going back to school so theres no biggie there.


How many amatuer bouts have you had so far Mystyal?

Rockin' :boxing:

How many amatuer bouts have you had so far Mystyal?

Rockin' :boxing:


****in 0. ahaha i have 1 coming on june 24th i hope it doesnt get canceled like the other 1.

You say that you are calm and composed. That is during sparring. In the fight you will deal with new things. Trust me when I say that.

Its your call Mystyal, you can tell me all that you want about how its this and its that, but once the bell rings for an actual bout you will see what I mean.

The whole thing with me commenting is to try and make you wait on the pros abit. Focus and train to beat the best ams around you. When you can do that then I would say maybe.

Rockin' :boxing:

You say that you are calm and composed. That is during sparring. In the fight you will deal with new things. Trust me when I say that.

Its your call Mystyal, you can tell me all that you want about how its this and its that, but once the bell rings for an actual bout you will see what I mean.

The whole thing with me commenting is to try and make you wait on the pros abit. Focus and train to beat the best ams around you. When you can do that then I would say maybe.

Rockin' :boxing:


reason why i have waited for 2 years.even with amatuer fights your not guarenteed to kick every1s ass. i've hurt national amatuer champions before. u can have all the experience in the world but once that brain gets rattled all that gets thrown out the window. am i right or wrong?

reason why i have waited for 2 years.even with amatuer fights your not guarenteed to kick every1s ass. i've hurt national amatuer champions before. u can have all the experience in the world but once that brain gets rattled all that gets thrown out the window. am i right or wrong?

Oh your right, most definately. But the thing that you must look at is when you do face one of these early pros with extensive amatuer experience, who do you believe will be eating them first. Whos brain will be rattled first. On one hand you have you and 0 to maybe one fight. In this hand you have him. Say 79 amatuer bouts. Your second pro fight meaning only your 3rd possibly 4th match ever. Whose brain, in that situation would you think may rattle first?

Rockin' :boxing:

Oh your right, most definately. But the thing that you must look at is when you do face one of these early pros with extensive amatuer experience, who do you believe will be eating them first. Whos brain will be rattled first. On one hand you have you and 0 to maybe one fight. In this hand you have him. Say 79 amatuer bouts. Your second pro fight meaning only your 3rd possibly 4th match ever. Whose brain, in that situation would you think may rattle first?

Rockin' :boxing:


it depends on how good u r also. jus cause u have no amatuer background doesnt mean u suck ne 1 can throw a punch u jus gotta obviously get out the way. what im sayin is dont let the perception of ppl having amatuer fights being better then ppl without them.i can go out and ko some world amatuer champs and all there 10years of training and experience is thrown out the window cause when it comes down to it i can hit harder then them.i hope u dont think jus cause some1 has little to no fights that there going to be confused and not know what to do ahaha.i've been hit by all weight classes and i still kept my calm and executed what i needed to do.my style is more a pro style like i stated before.but yeah i can get my brains rattled but cant they also or r they superior to felling hard blows? in my opinion its who ever get get your ass first

OK......

Rockin' :boxing:

earlier is mo better, u got get used to it b4 u can dish it, but there have been exceptions to that rule b4

exactly, i've made comments to freinds in the past, you have to get used to taking a punch and they look at me like im crazy. glad im not the only one who belives this, i know from experiance this to be true.

it depends on how good u r also. jus cause u have no amatuer background doesnt mean u suck ne 1 can throw a punch u jus gotta obviously get out the way. what im sayin is dont let the perception of ppl having amatuer fights being better then ppl without them.i can go out and ko some world amatuer champs and all there 10years of training and experience is thrown out the window cause when it comes down to it i can hit harder then them.i hope u dont think jus cause some1 has little to no fights that there going to be confused and not know what to do ahaha.i've been hit by all weight classes and i still kept my calm and executed what i needed to do.my style is more a pro style like i stated before.but yeah i can get my brains rattled but cant they also or r they superior to felling hard blows? in my opinion its who ever get get your ass first

i think once you have your amature fight you'll have a better understanding of what you want to do next.


i got a fight of one of my team-mates who fought a guy named "baby tyson" good fight both had power but my team-mate had more skills to give angles and move out the way, he was able to see punchs better.

what im saying is the amatures are their so you can learn to box and you can go up against many different styles that you will face at the pro level.

if you want to go pro right away go ahead and good luck. and you know you got to record your fight and post it here, and with a good camara :boxing:

Baby Tyson? I swear there was a kid younger than me with that nickname in West Virginia. Not the same one is it Ferocity?

I'd say start before your twenty for amateur purposes, but if its for fitness like some guys at my gym, it doesnt really matter.

After reading through this thread basically everyone says the only way your going to become rich and famous is if you start boxing really young! I started when I was 14 and I still am that age, but anyway it does take the gifts of being tall, lean, and having a good reach you can't teach someone height or reach and I have both of those things. For someone as big as myself (6'0 or6'1) I have the best movement out of any of the other people i've seen try to move.

im just curious to know what you guys think is to old to get into boxing and be serious about it!
to box id say about 27 but to train for boxing there aint really an age , well there isnt really an age to box but i woulnd start boxing later than 27 :)

How many fights does a really good pro boxer usually average per year? Because after Amateur boxing I plan to go pro, but i'm interested to see how many fights I'd ussually get per year and basically the better you are the more you get paid right?

it depends on how good u r also. jus cause u have no amatuer background doesnt mean u suck ne 1 can throw a punch u jus gotta obviously get out the way. what im sayin is dont let the perception of ppl having amatuer fights being better then ppl without them.i can go out and ko some world amatuer champs and all there 10years of training and experience is thrown out the window cause when it comes down to it i can hit harder then them.i hope u dont think jus cause some1 has little to no fights that there going to be confused and not know what to do ahaha.i've been hit by all weight classes and i still kept my calm and executed what i needed to do.my style is more a pro style like i stated before.but yeah i can get my brains rattled but cant they also or r they superior to felling hard blows? in my opinion its who ever get get your ass first

Mystyal, you're ****in' delusional... That is some of the mpost naive **** I've ever read. If you really think you can KO a world amateur champ, that really makes me doubt that you've sparred national champs, 'cause if you had, you'd know better.
We've all seen your sparring vids, and let me tell you, while you look like a talented beginner, you wouldn't be able to TOUCH a world champion. THAT is the reason you're gonna get rattled. And guess what? You don't even know it yet, because you've never been in a fight. I guess your trainer knows, since he hasn't gotten you an amateur fight in TWO YEARS. :eek:
Bottom line is that the people on here, who have real life boxing experience are telling you the truth, and you just don't want to hear it. Oh well, it's your pride and your health that's gonna get bruised BADLY one of these days, when you take that step over the edge.

Mystyal, you're ****in' delusional... That is some of the mpost naive **** I've ever read. If you really think you can KO a world amateur champ, that really makes me doubt that you've sparred national champs, 'cause if you had, you'd know better.
We've all seen your sparring vids, and let me tell you, while you look like a talented beginner, you wouldn't be able to TOUCH a world champion. THAT is the reason you're gonna get rattled. And guess what? You don't even know it yet, because you've never been in a fight. I guess your trainer knows, since he hasn't gotten you an amateur fight in TWO YEARS. :eek:
Bottom line is that the people on here, who have real life boxing experience are telling you the truth, and you just don't want to hear it. Oh well, it's your pride and your health that's gonna get bruised BADLY one of these days, when you take that step over the edge.


u r drunk i didnt say i could ko a world champion it was an example :rolleyes: and what makes amatuer champions so much better then me. do they have some sort of superpowers that make them stronger and move alot faster or r they ppl theat jus have more experience then i do.and my trainer has been wanting me to fight but things have gotten in the way and i wanted to work on my skill first,cant jus rely on power when fighting.

and a few sparring videos on here can tell u how i fight :confused: u should know better then that. ;)

Where the videos of people training at? I've heard like everyone has things on them and other stuff...

Where the videos of people training at? I've heard like everyone has things on them and other stuff...

search in the training and nutrition threads

I was 14 when istarted and pro at 21. 14 is a good age.

Rockin' :boxing:

Yeah I plan to go pro after college or even sooner, if I don't mess my health up in the meantime.

Yeah I plan to go pro after college or even sooner, if I don't mess my health up in the meantime.


thats what my concern is. **** can happen down the line.

Damn there are tons of pages, I wish the forums were set up with a multimedia part..I'm mainly worried about like a car accident then I am worried about getting something broke or strained, because I have enough confidence in my defense techniques and my movement to evade anything thrown at me.

Damn there are tons of pages, I wish the forums were set up with a multimedia part..I'm mainly worried about like a car accident then I am worried about getting something broke or strained, because I have enough confidence in my defense techniques and my movement to evade anything thrown at me.


yeah i know then i'll regret not gettin some money out of it. or i'll be scrambling to try to make some money like tarver. heres a video of me sparring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ITK_960_8

I hope your quicker then that when you actually throw your punches and combos. Damn at first I thought I was seein a young mike tyson sparring, You weren't joking about doing what he does. The only thing I have to say is that string your punches together, you did it at some times, but some other times you was just throwing ones and twos. You'll be more effective throwing combos and stringing your punches, because most of the time your going hit your opponent with something or get him walking into a punch.

I hope your quicker then that when you actually throw your punches and combos. Damn at first I thought I was seein a young mike tyson sparring, You weren't joking about doing what he does. The only thing I have to say is that string your punches together, you did it at some times, but some other times you was just throwing ones and twos. You'll be more effective throwing combos and stringing your punches, because most of the time your going hit your opponent with something or get him walking into a punch.


1 thing that sucks by putting videos on here is that they slow your speed down alot. its no where clear to realtime speed. and i wish i coulda put more combos together but it would either run or tie up.and i tended to not go full on him as u can see as me backing up sometimes.watch some of tysons old fights when ppl tie him up all the time or run. he cant get no combos off. this is a good video on what im talkin abouthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qEZtSIGR8o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iOPYieEc_g

Yeah I noticed it got slow as hell whenever you guys got closer to the camera. At the start it looked like you was just stretching your arm out and thats about it. People ran from Tyson and tied him up to contain his power though Evander Holyfield and Lewis have been about the only two successful.

Yeah I noticed it got slow as hell whenever you guys got closer to the camera. At the start it looked like you was just stretching your arm out and thats about it. People ran from Tyson and tied him up to contain his power though Evander Holyfield and Lewis have been about the only two successful.


thats all ppl do to me is tie me up or run. which suxs,i guess its a good thing knowing u have the power to make ppl do it though.only time ppl fight me straight up is when they dont know me.

And I bet that's when your at your strongest in a sparring matc. I've only sparred like three times, but i've done well, except the first time I had sparred I had to manage with the 'dont blink' problem, because I was starting out and I blinked after I threw a jab and when I opened my eyes I got hit over the top with a right hand and it floored me. That hasnt happend a single time as of yet, though.

And I bet that's when your at your strongest in a sparring matc. I've only sparred like three times, but i've done well, except the first time I had sparred I had to manage with the 'dont blink' problem, because I was starting out and I blinked after I threw a jab and when I opened my eyes I got hit over the top with a right hand and it floored me. That hasnt happend a single time as of yet, though.


i tend to just squent when i go in. since im short im going straight where the danger is

What I've seen happen to people they get fitted with too big of head gear when they put their chin down the top of the headgear starts to slide into they're range of vision. If, I get hit with something I just narrow my eyes more then they already are.

What I've seen happen to people they get fitted with too big of head gear when they put their chin down the top of the headgear starts to slide into they're range of vision. If, I get hit with something I just narrow my eyes more then they already are.


i hate headgear. since im short and i dip for my punches my view is gone cause of my headgear.and it starts to slide down.and i have to pick it up as u can see in the video

Yeah I noticed that when you had your head down and your sparring partner stepped away you didn't notice for like a second or two.

u r drunk i didnt say i could ko a world champion it was an example :rolleyes: and what makes amatuer champions so much better then me. do they have some sort of superpowers that make them stronger and move alot faster or r they ppl theat jus have more experience then i do.and my trainer has been wanting me to fight but things have gotten in the way and i wanted to work on my skill first,cant jus rely on power when fighting.

and a few sparring videos on here can tell u how i fight :confused: u should know better then that. ;)

Yes you did: "i can go out and ko some world amatuer champs and all there 10years of training and experience is thrown out the window cause when it comes down to it i can hit harder then them." That is what you said, word for word. And you still talk like a world champion is no better than you. You just don't get it. Yes they're better than you. Why? Because of the one thing you don't have, EXPERIENCE. Guys like that will know what you're gonna do next before you do, and you won't be able to lay a glove on them. Since you have NO experience, you have no idea how important it is, and that is why you should listen to the people here who do have experience.
I'll tell you what those things getting in your way are, your ego and your foolish pride.
Yes, a few sparring vids, plus the fact that you have ZERO fights can tell me how you fight. You know why? Because I have 20 years of experience in boxing as a boxer and trainer.

Look, it's clear that you won't listen to well meant, good advice, so you can have the last word here, I'm done. Good luck, you'll need it.

Dude, I just looked at your clip again. You're not bad for a beginner (your boxing has beginner written all over it), you've got talent. But you're not a fraction of being as good as you THINK you are.

Reality will come crashing down.

Yes you did: "i can go out and ko some world amatuer champs and all there 10years of training and experience is thrown out the window cause when it comes down to it i can hit harder then them." That is what you said, word for word. And you still talk like a world champion is no better than you. You just don't get it. Yes they're better than you. Why? Because of the one thing you don't have, EXPERIENCE. Guys like that will know what you're gonna do next before you do, and you won't be able to lay a glove on them. Since you have NO experience, you have no idea how important it is, and that is why you should listen to the people here who do have experience.
I'll tell you what those things getting in your way are, your ego and your foolish pride.
Yes, a few sparring vids, plus the fact that you have ZERO fights can tell me how you fight. You know why? Because I have 20 years of experience in boxing as a boxer and trainer.

Look, it's clear that you won't listen to well meant, good advice, so you can have the last word here, I'm done. Good luck, you'll need it.

time to be conceded. yes i will be champion yes i will dominate and yes i will rub it in all ppl's faces that ever doubted my ability.only ppl that know this will happen r the 1s that see my in person.

and u dont have to have tons of experience to have raw talent and power.and ok u have 20years and? doesnt mean **** jus shows you've been waiting to long to find a champion.

when it comes down to it i know my skills and talent unlike ne 1 else. i wouldnt be sayin the **** i say if i didnt believe this. and if u think having little amatuer background would have u murdered in the pros then tell tyson and foreman that who held raw talent
:rolleyes: im done. :cool: :boxing:

Dude, I just looked at your clip again. You're not bad for a beginner (your boxing has beginner written all over it), you've got talent. But you're not a fraction of being as good as you THINK you are.

Reality will come crashing down.


i'll make sure to remind all the pros i've sparred also. and if u didnt read my threads on these sparring videos then u have little room to comment my friend very little

i'll make sure to remind all the pros i've sparred also. and if u didnt read my threads on these sparring videos then u have little room to comment my friend very little
I did look at those threads, hence the AGAIN.

All the pro's you're sparring? Pro's like you or REAL pro's? Why don't you post those vids instead of ones against petrified noobs, that are afraid to throw punches back at you?

Look, I'm not saying that I doubt your talent or power. I'm just saying that talent and power will get you nowhere against a guy who ALSO has talent and power AND experience, as most world champions do. ;)

Mystyal = talent + power
World champion = talent + power + big time experience

The fact that you can't tell the difference between those two equations, is what's gonna get you hurt.

If you do become a world champion without amateur experience, I'll admit I was wrong. I'll even post a thread about it.
However, when you get your ass handed to you, I'll expect you to post a vid, an admit I was right. Deal?

I did look at those threads, hence the AGAIN.

All the pro's you're sparring? Pro's like you or REAL pro's? Why don't you post those vids instead of ones against petrified noobs, that are afraid to throw punches back at you?

Look, I'm not saying that I doubt your talent or power. I'm just saying that talent and power will get you nowhere against a guy who ALSO has talent and power AND experience, as most world champions do. ;)

Mystyal = talent + power
World champion = talent + power + big time experience

The fact that you can't tell the difference between those two equations, is what's gonna get you hurt.

If you do become a world champion without amateur experience, I'll admit I was wrong. I'll even post a thread about it.
However, when you get your ass handed to you, I'll expect you to post a vid, an admit I was right. Deal?


all i gotta say is i cant satisfy all the critics :D and of course i will post a video. u cant obviously see the talent over the internet so i cant fully blame u for what u say. so i'll leave it at that

all i gotta say is i cant satisfy all the critics :D and of course i will post a video. u cant obviously see the talent over the internet so i cant fully blame u for what u say. so i'll leave it at that

Neither I nor Rockin1 were trying to critizise you, but to help you. :)

Neither I nor Rockin1 were trying to critizise you, but to help you. :)


understandable. but i would love for u guys to see me in person training and fighting. its totally different. somethings i do u wont believe unless u see it for yourself. so no need to mention or brag about it

Mystyal I could kick your ass. You can't box your video sucks, you look like a slow, weak, useless version of me. I could whip yo punk @ss.

Mystyal I could kick your ass. You can't box your video sucks, you look like a slow, weak, useless version of me. I could whip yo punk @ss.
uhhhhhhhhhhh.ok :confused:

just a reminder of the poll hoskins.http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72536&page=1&highlight=greatestiam ahahaha. im shocked u still show your face with that blowout

My name is RONALD HOSKENS, IM THE FUTURE WORLD CHAMPION!

Dont live in your fantasy world for too long..someone would take you back to reality..wait he's banned :D

Probably best before the age of 20. I think if your already someone who stays in top shape, age won't matter too much.

i think it depends mostly on your ability to pick up on things. if youre a quick learner and a fairly natural athlete, you can get away with starting later in life. you probly wont be a crazy-slick boxer like pbf, who practically grew up in the ring, you can make it work.

the earlier the better, but ive only recently started training (im gonna be 19 in august) and im optimistic.

There's a guy at my gym who's a Masters Division heavyweight, he's 40 and has only been boxing a couple of years -- he does Masters Division fights fairly regularly, I guess. He's in the gym pretty much every night, though. He's got a real textbook style, sharp and fast, great feet, and he annihilates people who've been boxing way longer. He's not the world champion or anything, but he gets respect and that's got to count for something.

just a reminder of the poll hoskins.http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72536&page=1&highlight=greatestiam ahahaha. im shocked u still show your face with that blowout


MAN ITS A ****IN POLL AN OPINION NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS, YOU COULDNT LAST WITH ME AT THIS POINT, AGAIN ONCE I POST SOME VIDS YOULL SEE WHY

MAN ITS A ****IN POLL AN OPINION NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS, YOU COULDNT LAST WITH ME AT THIS POINT, AGAIN ONCE I POST SOME VIDS YOULL SEE WHY


like i said i should be around your area in july so go scoop me up

like i said i should be around your area in july so go scoop me up


yo check it man if your catching a plane to chi or from chi or whateva take a cab to the train station which shouldnt be more then 25$ you can then get a train ticket from CHI-KZOO for no more then 20$(17) and if you do that i will personally come get you from kalamazoos train station!

Um..just a comment, but don't mind me..I've heard you say 'wait til I post some videos, now your ass is ****ed!' a million times, but I only have this to say..HURRY THE **** UP.

Rarely does a fighter with no experience in any martial art make it in boxing professionally after the age of 20. However, boxing training is good exercise at any age. Probably people shouldn't actually fight competitively after the age of 50 or so. Too much danger of serious permanent injury.