Mosley Vs. Estrada On The Verge Of Being Added To ESPN PPV!
By G. Leon

Jameel McCline-Calvin Brock Looking Good As Well!
February 08, 2005 - Main Events April 23 PPV on ESPN is rapidly becoming MUST SEE TV for all fight fans. As you know, WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito versus undefeated interim champion Kermit "The Killer" Cintron is the planned Main Event, and in what should be no surprise to BT readers, WBA lightweight champion JuanDiaz will face the always exciting Ebo Elder on the undercard. **********.com now understands that a heavyweight showdown between Jameel McCline and unbeaten Calvin Brock is in the works and looking good, as is former three division champion "Sugar" Shane Mosley's return to the welterweight division to take on up and coming contender David Estrada. Carl Moretti from Main Events was unavailable for immediate comment. Mosley's representative Judd Burstein, informed **********.com, "We've been in serious negotiations and all I'm waiting for is a proposed contract." We will continue to keep you updated so stay tuned! Remember Where You Heard It First! (4PM ET)

How much will ESPN PPV charge for this fight?20-30buks?

Thanks Spinks,

thats lame of them to make this a ppv fight, estrada, as great of a fighter as I think he is, is not ppv material yet, neither is mccline or margarito.. mosely isn't even ppv material. I'm not wasting 20 bucks on this **** but I will watch the reruns on hbo/shotime/foxsportsnet.

Jesus that is a good card. Its got my buy as well!

How much will ESPN PPV charge for this fight?20-30buks?

wow, if all 4 fights come off that could be ppv of the year man, good ****

you guys must be rich, as much of a boxing fan as I am, I already pay 105 a month for direct tv, that's 1260.00 a year, I dont need to spend more money on something that will come on hbo in like 24 hours after the event.

you guys must be rich, as much of a boxing fan as I am, I already pay 105 a month for direct tv, that's 1260.00 a year, I dont need to spend more money on something that will come on hbo in like 24 hours after the event.

WOW! you wouldnt spend 20 bucks on a card like that?..
:eek:

you guys must be rich, as much of a boxing fan as I am, I already pay 105 a month for direct tv, that's 1260.00 a year, I dont need to spend more money on something that will come on hbo in like 24 hours after the event.

i doubt it would get replayed, half the excitement for me is watching it live, actually alot of the high is watching it in realtime, i love it. if i already know what happened it ruins it for me, ill spend whatever i have to for good boxing

i doubt it would get replayed, half the excitement for me is watching it live, actually alot of the high is watching it in realtime, i love it. if i already know what happened it ruins it for me, ill spend whatever i have to for good boxing

well I respect that . spoken like a true fan of puglilism.

yar if they don't replay it I'll spend 30 for it,otherwise, gonna just have to not read any boxing forums for 48 hrs until I see the fight.

WOW! you wouldnt spend 20 bucks on a card like that?..
:eek:

nah, not if it's replayed. if it isn't replayed, though, sure I would.

wow, this would be the greatest 4 fight card ever billed, i dare to say.

that's one helluva boxing card i'm buying

Look what happens, you give us cult fans something worth paying for and we are all over it...what a ****ing card...hey Don and Bob-check out what ESPN is doing maybe you could learn something from the new kids on the block!

Probably one of the best cards in a LONG time, the whole card from start to finish has some exciting fights on it, which is hardly to be said for most big time ppvs. Each fighter in my book are fighting credible opponents and it will make good fights. I cant imagine ESPN charging 50 bucks for this card (although it might as well be worth it compared to others) but I feel even $34.95 is a bit steep, personally $24.95 would seal the deal. HBO did that with the Spadafora vs Holbaek card and Kushner does it with his Heavyweight Heroes billings, so I would gladly throw it down. However if that card wasnt on PPV, My god could you imagine the ratings? Toney vs Booker drew in 1.0 (1 million viewers), When Cintron appeared on NBC's boxing series it got about a 1.3. This would pull in some MEGA ratings for the network and would be a perfect opportunity for them to put Pro boxing back on the broadcast network and make it seem as if top quality fights could be made and still not have to be on PPV. But the purses will be far to high for ESPN's checkbook to even consider this.

Hell Mosley alone is probably banking a good bit, Im also curious to see who they say Mosley fights under now...Could be King or GBP, I predict Finkel myself.

Now that's a PPV card!

I'd buy it.

But I'm in Blighty, which means I can't.

This country is sh*t, football has a monopoly on televised sport.

So gay, so very, VERY gay.

it sounds good. i might buy it even though i hate ppv. i hope espn charges like 9.99 though because more people will buy it that way

it sounds good. i might buy it even though i hate ppv. i hope espn charges like 9.99 though because more people will buy it that way


I doubt it will be that low, it carries marquee names. I know ESPN put on a few fight cards last year if anyone could remember the prices they charged for those then that would possibly give you the best idea, although that is one jam packed card that could easily be charged $49.99

Hell Yeah great card,no don kind right?,,,anyway..this is what a ppv card is about and for those who say margarito and cintron arnt main event status...u surely have not seen them fight

Mosley Vs. Estrada On The Verge Of Being Added To ESPN PPV!
By G. Leon

Jameel McCline-Calvin Brock Looking Good As Well!
February 08, 2005 - Main Events April 23 PPV on ESPN is rapidly becoming MUST SEE TV for all fight fans. As you know, WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito versus undefeated interim champion Kermit "The Killer" Cintron is the planned Main Event, and in what should be no surprise to BT readers, WBA lightweight champion JuanDiaz will face the always exciting Ebo Elder on the undercard. **********.com now understands that a heavyweight showdown between Jameel McCline and unbeaten Calvin Brock is in the works and looking good, as is former three division champion "Sugar" Shane Mosley's return to the welterweight division to take on up and coming contender David Estrada. Carl Moretti from Main Events was unavailable for immediate comment. Mosley's representative Judd Burstein, informed **********.com, "We've been in serious negotiations and all I'm waiting for is a proposed contract." We will continue to keep you updated so stay tuned! Remember Where You Heard It First! (4PM ET)

What irritates me the most about this is I seem to remember that ESPN 2 was one of the main channels that was in the habit of complaining all the time about ppv charges, and how those fights should be free and they would end up hurting the sport. Maybe I'm confusing them with someone else, but it seems to me that Kellerman and Kenny (and maybe even Atlas) usually atleast mentioned that once during each show....that these promoters, etc.. that kept demanding ppv prices were bad for the sport. Help!! Am I confusing them with another channel or what?? :confused: I'll rent the damn thing, but I wont be very happy about it cause on that channel boxing has always been free (other than the normal monthly cable bill I pay to get ESPN 2)

i'll pay it. i love the card if it actually happens. but not more than 29.99.

Probably one of the best cards in a LONG time, the whole card from start to finish has some exciting fights on it, which is hardly to be said for most big time ppvs. Each fighter in my book are fighting credible opponents and it will make good fights. I cant imagine ESPN charging 50 bucks for this card (although it might as well be worth it compared to others) but I feel even $34.95 is a bit steep, personally $24.95 would seal the deal. HBO did that with the Spadafora vs Holbaek card and Kushner does it with his Heavyweight Heroes billings, so I would gladly throw it down. However if that card wasnt on PPV, My god could you imagine the ratings? Toney vs Booker drew in 1.0 (1 million viewers), When Cintron appeared on NBC's boxing series it got about a 1.3. This would pull in some MEGA ratings for the network and would be a perfect opportunity for them to put Pro boxing back on the broadcast network and make it seem as if top quality fights could be made and still not have to be on PPV. But the purses will be far to high for ESPN's checkbook to even consider this.

Hell Mosley alone is probably banking a good bit, Im also curious to see who they say Mosley fights under now...Could be King or GBP, I predict Finkel myself.

Yeah, about that...last spring was the second time that NBC gave boxing a try on Sat's..and it was during the day so it didnt overlap with any night time boxing. Apparently the first season of doing that went so well (the ratings) that they not only did it again the next spring, but they increased the number of fights ..I remember watching 5 Sat's in a row last time! Last spring they had not only Cintron but also: Rocky Juarez, Francisco "Panchito" Bojado, Juan Diaz?? ; in other words NBC kicked ass (for free!!) for several weeks, back to back. Theyre supposed to do it again this coming spring and hopefully there will be twice as many fights scheduled. If you can stand Raul Marquez commentating (I'm use to him by now thanks to HBO Latino :D ), then it's all good! :D God I LOVE it!!!!!

Dont buy the pay per view, wait for the rerun, repeat, than they will notice, and have to lower their prices, and get right.

are u guys sure they will rerun it tho?

Yeah, about that...last spring was the second time that NBC gave boxing a try on Sat's..and it was during the day so it didnt overlap with any night time boxing. Apparently the first season of doing that went so well (the ratings) that they not only did it again the next spring, but they increased the number of fights ..I remember watching 5 Sat's in a row last time! Last spring they had not only Cintron but also: Rocky Juarez, Francisco "Panchito" Bojado, Juan Diaz?? ; in other words NBC kicked ass (for free!!) for several weeks, back to back. Theyre supposed to do it again this coming spring and hopefully there will be twice as many fights scheduled. If you can stand Raul Marquez commentating (I'm use to him by now thanks to HBO Latino :D ), then it's all good! :D God I LOVE it!!!!!


They got really good ratings all above 1.0, I realize those are not primetime numbers or anything but hardly anybody is home or even watching tv on saturdays at 3 to 5pm in which the card aired (except maybe us) I think if NBC would put it in a primetime slot it would have done some pretty good numbers, but that is a huge risk and unfortunately NBC will use the contender ratings to probably determine their future on boxing. Although you dont have to be an expensive cable subscriber to get NBC and that would pull in more ratings. One thing not to forget is that nbc/abc ruled boxing for many years on television in the past and constantly aired Ali and Leonard fights. So SOMETHING must have been done right.

Im also curious to see the kind of ratings HBO/Showtime fights pull in, It was rumored that to become an HBO exclusive fighter you had to pull in ratings around the 3.0 mark. I cant believe it, however you put Oscar De La Hoyas ass on a primetime slot on any of those channels (abc/nbc/fox/cbs) and in a ring and you can bet your behind that their would be ratings above the 6.0 mark, which would have done better numbers than JOEY. :D

Hell Yeah great card,no don kind right?,,,anyway..this is what a ppv card is about and for those who say margarito and cintron arnt main event status...u surely have not seen them fight

Margarito vs Cintron in my book are not when fighting certain fighters but when in their with a drawing name or in this case fighting themselves, it will make for a very interesting and exciting match between two sluggers.

Are you people serious? That card is garbage and guys are acting like its the Revenge card from 94.

Diaz vs Elder- EASY fight for Diaz anyone who thinks Elder will even be competative is blinded by his entertaining style and not looking at his actual skills.

Mosley vs Estrada- Mosley is washed up and this is still an EASY win for him.

McCline vs Brock- Someone want to tell me what either of these two guys have ever done to be regarded as good?

Margarito vs Cintron- Good fight

Are you people serious? That card is garbage and guys are acting like its the Revenge card from 94.

Diaz vs Elder- EASY fight for Diaz anyone who thinks Elder will even be competative is blinded by his entertaining style and not looking at his actual skills.

Mosley vs Estrada- Mosley is washed up and this is still an EASY win for him.

McCline vs Brock- Someone want to tell me what either of these two guys have ever done to be regarded as good?

Margarito vs Cintron- Good fight

These are all top names, please tell me a card that has had major players in their divisions from beginning to end in the past 5 years?

Are you people serious? That card is garbage and guys are acting like its the Revenge card from 94.

Diaz vs Elder- EASY fight for Diaz anyone who thinks Elder will even be competative is blinded by his entertaining style and not looking at his actual skills.

Mosley vs Estrada- Mosley is washed up and this is still an EASY win for him.

McCline vs Brock- Someone want to tell me what either of these two guys have ever done to be regarded as good?

Margarito vs Cintron- Good fight

It's a good card...but I won't pay more than 30 buks for it.

No there not Brock, McCline, Estrada and Elder will never be top guys in there divisions and are not considerd "Major Players".

Shane Mosley is sliding big time.

Best card in recent memory

DLH vs Sturm
Hopkins vs Allen
Castillo vs Lazcano

No there not Brock, McCline, Estrada and Elder will never be top guys in there divisions and are not considerd "Major Players".

Shane Mosley is sliding big time.

Best card in recent memory

DLH vs Sturm
Hopkins vs Allen
Castillo vs LazcanoLOL, thats the best card in recent memory :rolleyes:, best card has to be
Margarito vs Santos
Cotto vs. Pinto

or
Ruiz vs. Golota PPV

No there not Brock, McCline, Estrada and Elder will never be top guys in there divisions and are not considerd "Major Players".

Shane Mosley is sliding big time.

Best card in recent memory

DLH vs Sturm
Hopkins vs Allen
Castillo vs Lazcano

That card was ridiculous, Hopkins fought a guy for the 3rd time even though the 1st 2 fights were not even competitive. Juan Diaz is a champion at his weight and, I consider him a major player in that division. He doesnt hold that belt for nothing and Ebo will take it.

DLH vs Sturm wasnt even competitive in that fight.

Their hasnt been a good ppv card in years, These fights SHOULD be exciting to watch and a bit better matchups then we had gotten accustomed to in 2004.

That card was ridiculous, Hopkins fought a guy for the 3rd time even though the 1st 2 fights were not even competitive. Juan Diaz is a champion at his weight and, I consider him a major player in that division. He doesnt hold that belt for nothing and Ebo will take it.

DLH vs Sturm wasnt even competitive in that fight.

Their hasnt been a good ppv card in years, These fights SHOULD be exciting to watch and a bit better matchups then we had gotten accustomed to in 2004.


Im sorry did you just say Ebo Elder is going to take Juan Diaz's belt?

You had the undisputed Middle weight Champion, The Ring Lightweight Champion and the biggest draw in boxing on one card.

Now I know its no Calvin Brock/Jameal McCline, but I mean come on.

They got really good ratings all above 1.0, I realize those are not primetime numbers or anything but hardly anybody is home or even watching tv on saturdays at 3 to 5pm in which the card aired (except maybe us) I think if NBC would put it in a primetime slot it would have done some pretty good numbers, but that is a huge risk and unfortunately NBC will use the contender ratings to probably determine their future on boxing. Although you dont have to be an expensive cable subscriber to get NBC and that would pull in more ratings. One thing not to forget is that nbc/abc ruled boxing for many years on television in the past and constantly aired Ali and Leonard fights. So SOMETHING must have been done right.

Im also curious to see the kind of ratings HBO/Showtime fights pull in, It was rumored that to become an HBO exclusive fighter you had to pull in ratings around the 3.0 mark. I cant believe it, however you put Oscar De La Hoyas ass on a primetime slot on any of those channels (abc/nbc/fox/cbs) and in a ring and you can bet your behind that their would be ratings above the 6.0 mark, which would have done better numbers than JOEY. :D

I had forgotten that Spinks..youre right, they did use to show alot of boxing but stopped for some reason years ago. I'm just glad that the ratings were good enough that they risked another season of it, and another one coming up! The only problem with prime time is if it's on Sat (like in the past) then they will occasionally go up against a fight on HBO and/or Sho..that could be a problem and would definately affect the ratings. I dont believe that just cause it's on HBO or Sho that it will be a better fight so I'd probably choose the NBC over them if I was forced to pick, but alot of fans dont think that way..they had better stick to daytime or do it on a different day of the week. :confused:

I had forgotten that Spinks..youre right, they did use to show alot of boxing but stopped for some reason years ago. I'm just glad that the ratings were good enough that they risked another season of it, and another one coming up! The only problem with prime time is if it's on Sat (like in the past) then they will occasionally go up against a fight on HBO and/or Sho..that could be a problem and would definately affect the ratings. I dont believe that just cause it's on HBO or Sho that it will be a better fight so I'd probably choose the NBC over them if I was forced to pick, but alot of fans dont think that way..they had better stick to daytime or do it on a different day of the week. :confused:

Showtime usually broadcasts the first Saturday of every months and HBO usually does on in the middle or end. NBC shouldnt have to but could plan according to HBO's schedule. Although NBC wouldnt want to step aside for another channel. Although it would benefit them in the long run. Saturday evenings would be perfect, Better yet do it when their is high tv ratings and everybody is home. USA had success on Tuesday nights, Monday or Tuesday nights in prime slots would be great to put boxing on in the evenings. Everybody is home, FX also had success with their Toughman Series oddly enough.

Showtime usually broadcasts the first Saturday of every months and HBO usually does on in the middle or end. NBC shouldnt have to but could plan according to HBO's schedule. Although NBC wouldnt want to step aside for another channel. Although it would benefit them in the long run. Saturday evenings would be perfect, Better yet do it when their is high tv ratings and everybody is home. USA had success on Tuesday nights, Monday or Tuesday nights in prime slots would be great to put boxing on in the evenings. Everybody is home, FX also had success with their Toughman Series oddly enough.

Interesting..I dont watch FX that much, and definately have never seen that Toughman show. I'm sure that the guys at NBC are smart enough to plan around any big fights that might come on HBO or Showtime so we can watch it all. ;) So far I've been more than pleased with what NBC has offered..and they surprised me by showing such good fights from the very beginning..they didnt take any time to 'warm up' or anything before they had some good action going on. I loved every minute of it and really look forward to next spring!

Best time, for boxing on regular TV, is Sunday, prime time, like football, easy time slot, everybodys home, no competion

Are you people serious? That card is garbage and guys are acting like its the Revenge card from 94.

Diaz vs Elder- EASY fight for Diaz anyone who thinks Elder will even be competative is blinded by his entertaining style and not looking at his actual skills.

Mosley vs Estrada- Mosley is washed up and this is still an EASY win for him.

McCline vs Brock- Someone want to tell me what either of these two guys have ever done to be regarded as good?

Margarito vs Cintron- Good fight

I like the card because there are for the most part some big names on the card, but your right only one fight on the card figures to be a guarantee for a competitive fight and that would be Cintron/Margarito.

I agree that Ebo is not a very good fighter he is way overrated on this site, he is a B level fighter at best that will beat a lot of average guys but when he has to step up his comp he will always lose. What Im not sure of is how good Diaz is, granted I think he beats Ebo but I think it will be a pretty good scrap for a while, maybe even the entire fight...Im just not sold on the Baby Bull yet.

As for Mosely...he should be able to outclass Estrada but I love watching David fight, he comes at you and wings punches all night long-it is too bad he does not have real power.I think he at least makes the fight fun for a few rounds because he will pressure Mosley until he gets ko'd-basically he will force shane to knock him out and that will be fun too watch.

McCline is a ***** and Brock is certainly nothing special.

$19-$29 bucks would be fine by me. Not a great card but I think it will get my attention and my money. Jose please don't make fun of anything I have said, your putting me down over the LL threads really hurt...right on dude.

Juan Diez vs Ebo Elder? Now that's gonna be a FIGHT! Both nonstop throwing punching machines. I'll be looking forward to the results on that one!

$29.99 Is what the Suggested Retail Price will be.

$29.99 Is what the Suggested Retail Price will be.

Thats not too bad..much better than the usual $50! :eek:

Thats not too bad..much better than the usual $50! :eek:


Indeed each of those fights are easily worth the $7.49 each. :D

Mosley Vs. Estrada On The Verge Of Being Added To ESPN PPV!
By G. Leon

Jameel McCline-Calvin Brock Looking Good As Well!
February 08, 2005 - Main Events April 23 PPV on ESPN is rapidly becoming MUST SEE TV for all fight fans. As you know, WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito versus undefeated interim champion Kermit "The Killer" Cintron is the planned Main Event, and in what should be no surprise to BT readers, WBA lightweight champion JuanDiaz will face the always exciting Ebo Elder on the undercard. **********.com now understands that a heavyweight showdown between Jameel McCline and unbeaten Calvin Brock is in the works and looking good, as is former three division champion "Sugar" Shane Mosley's return to the welterweight division to take on up and coming contender David Estrada. Carl Moretti from Main Events was unavailable for immediate comment. Mosley's representative Judd Burstein, informed **********.com, "We've been in serious negotiations and all I'm waiting for is a proposed contract." We will continue to keep you updated so stay tuned! Remember Where You Heard It First! (4PM ET)

Yeah I know what you mean, this has become a legitimate PPV now. :cool:

I will enjoy Brock vs McClean, havent seen Brock in action yet.

I hope ESPN stays under the 30 dollar mark. Otherwise Im in agreement with Tracylee on this one, they will come off as hypocrytes. ESPN did do a lot of *****ing about PPV (and rightfully so). It sounds like a great card for the money. They just need to avoid the tempation to increase the price if this is successful. If this PPV goes good, and I think it will, ESPN will have the ammo to put a serious hurting on Showtime and HBO.

No there not Brock, McCline, Estrada and Elder will never be top guys in there divisions and are not considerd "Major Players".

Shane Mosley is sliding big time.

Best card in recent memory

DLH vs Sturm
Hopkins vs Allen
Castillo vs Lazcano


Is this a joke Jose? I know that your are a "golden fan", but to say that this is the best card in recent memory...you must have a very short memory.

I like it when there's a nice all around card for a PPV, not just one pretty big fight and like 3 BS ones. For 29.99 I think I'll but it.

Indeed each of those fights are easily worth the $7.49 each. :D

Definately! Breaking it down like that helps when debating on whether to buy it or not ;) I too think it will be worth it

It looks like it is going to be an expensive couple of months for me.

I know I am getting Tito Wright, and I will be geting this one.

I am not sure about the Barerra Fana one, but I will probably not get it.

And I think there is another one that I am excited about but I can't remember it right now. Maybe Gatti Mayweather?

I thought that McCline is fighting Lyockovich, that guy that just beat Guinn.

Catch the replays or download them the next day...It is ridiculous dishing out that much...

Thanks Spinks,

thats lame of them to make this a ppv fight, estrada, as great of a fighter as I think he is, is not ppv material yet, neither is mccline or margarito.. mosely isn't even ppv material. I'm not wasting 20 bucks on this **** but I will watch the reruns on hbo/shotime/foxsportsnet.
I have to agree, it is kinda dumb to make it pay perview, but shelling out twenty bucks for three competitive fights sounds a whole lot better than fifty for two washes. Really, as long as they keep doing creative matchmaking and don't try to raise the price on us, they will consistently get my buy.

I hope ESPN stays under the 30 dollar mark. Otherwise Im in agreement with Tracylee on this one, they will come off as hypocrytes. ESPN did do a lot of *****ing about PPV (and rightfully so). It sounds like a great card for the money. They just need to avoid the tempation to increase the price if this is successful. If this PPV goes good, and I think it will, ESPN will have the ammo to put a serious hurting on Showtime and HBO.


cool, I'm glad somebody else remembers that (thought I was losing it there for a min! :confused: )

I hope ESPN stays under the 30 dollar mark. Otherwise Im in agreement with Tracylee on this one, they will come off as hypocrytes. ESPN did do a lot of *****ing about PPV (and rightfully so). It sounds like a great card for the money. They just need to avoid the tempation to increase the price if this is successful. If this PPV goes good, and I think it will, ESPN will have the ammo to put a serious hurting on Showtime and HBO.
doubtful
this one might do good
but then theyll learn why u dont put both ur top prospects against one n other
becuz then ur left with one
after cintron n margarito
who else do they have?
im not to interested in payin to see juan diaz
or mosley