View Full Version : David Tua VS Mike Tyson
Rane-Ex54 05-24-2006, 12:08 PM If they both fought today?
Same styles, but I always considered Tua a smarter, more deciplined version of Tyson, who can take a punch and is better in later rounds. If this fight happened tommorow I would pick Tua.
mgkirkpatrick 05-24-2006, 12:26 PM hmm shit.. i dont know enough about tua atm but if he's still in the game he'd probably win.. but im a tyson nut hugger so ill lock in b) tyson
RAESAAD 05-24-2006, 12:31 PM Tua TKO 3.
hugh grant 05-24-2006, 04:40 PM If Tyson woz anywhere near his prime Tyson wud beat Tua. But now its who cudnt beat Tyson type debate.
THE REAL NINJA 05-24-2006, 06:27 PM Tyson wins, his much faster hands would connect more often to do the damage. in his prime it was true that his defense was impregnable his style was impetuous . No one could find away to stop him until he took the night off with Buster who gave the world the blueprint on how to beat Tyson....if Tyson is in his prime with cus at his side he pulls out a dec or late tko
SquareCircle 05-24-2006, 07:37 PM tua by ref stoppage or KO in 5
tua's chin was tested by ibeabuchi, tyson never fared waters like that
tommyhearns804 05-24-2006, 08:21 PM If they fought today or 10 years ago Tua would always win.Tua has showed he could take a punch.You know never being hurt or knocked down as a pro.To bad Tyson can't say the same.
Today Tua in no more than 2 rounds but i will give a younger Tyson 3 rounds before he quits or gets knocked out.
Dempsey 1919 05-25-2006, 04:10 AM If they fought today or 10 years ago Tua would always win.Tua has showed he could take a punch.You know never being hurt or knocked down as a pro.To bad Tyson can't say the same.
Today Tua in no more than 2 rounds but i will give a younger Tyson 3 rounds before he quits or gets knocked out.
tua is too one dimensional. prime tyson would just pick him apart.
tua is too one dimensional. prime tyson would just pick him apart.
i agree prime tyson probably uds tua, but the question was if it happent today, if so tua in 5
6OVER6LORD6 05-25-2006, 10:42 AM If they fought today or 10 years ago Tua would always win.Tua has showed he could take a punch.You know never being hurt or knocked down as a pro.To bad Tyson can't say the same.
Today Tua in no more than 2 rounds but i will give a younger Tyson 3 rounds before he quits or gets knocked out.
you're right, cause tyson was already out of his prime '96, and tua was close to his
Prime vs. prime, tyson. tua wasn't nearly as fast as tyson was, and prime tyson had heart enough to stay in there with him when tua didn't fall
Most likely though, the fight would be stopped on cuts that could go either way
THE REAL NINJA 05-25-2006, 11:12 AM what age are some of you that think Tyson was never any good and all hype ???????????? Tyson fought guys with good power maybe not Tua power but Ruddock in 91 was one of the hardest hitters around ...some people go as far to say Frank Bruno was one of the most powerful hitters ever ...Bonecrusher Smith didnt get his name by being soft...how long did it take Lewis to take a way post prime Tyson out again ?
Dempsey 1919 05-25-2006, 03:33 PM what age are some of you that think Tyson was never any good and all hype ???????????? Tyson fought guys with good power maybe not Tua power but Ruddock in 91 was one of the hardest hitters around ...some people go as far to say Frank Bruno was one of the most powerful hitters ever ...Bonecrusher Smith didnt get his name by being soft...how long did it take Lewis to take a way post prime Tyson out again ?
good points.
tommyhearns804 05-25-2006, 04:28 PM what age are some of you that think Tyson was never any good and all hype ???????????? Tyson fought guys with good power maybe not Tua power but Ruddock in 91 was one of the hardest hitters around ...some people go as far to say Frank Bruno was one of the most powerful hitters ever ...Bonecrusher Smith didnt get his name by being soft...how long did it take Lewis to take a way post prime Tyson out again ?
Rudduck was trash.He is built up kind of like Liston is to make Ali look good.Who the hell did Rudduck ever beat?Bruno could punch but had a glass chin and even at that he buckled Tyson with a slapping uppercut when he was moving backward in their first fight.Bonecrusher is just a name.He never knocekd out a world class fighter with a good chin.Lewis toyed with Tyson.He could of ended in one round if he wanted too but he knew Tyson couldn't hurt him so he played with Tyson until he finally knocked him out.
When did Tyson ever show heart?When did Tyson show anything period against a heavyweight with super skill and still in their primes?Tua didnt need to be as fast as Tyson was against bums.The point is nobody ever showed they could even wobble Tua as a pro.Tyson never showed he could be hurt and come back and win.
Tyson never had a real prime.Its like saying Tye Fields is great in his prime.Who the hell did Tye Fields fight?You can give me names and say well Tyson beat this guy and he was good but These guys were bums.Tyson avoided any guy who he knew would crush him.From a old slower weaker Foreman to guy like Bowe and Shannon Briggs who both called him out at some point in times in their careers.And if you dont believe Tyson was still in his so called physical prime in 96 then you are a idiot.What was he then 30 years old?And most of his fights ended quickly because of the bums he was fighting so he wasnt hit much.
Tyson was still in shape but he was fighting guys who were no longer payed by King to take a dive.Well Bruce Seldom was but fighters Holyfield and Lewis weren't.Even a shot Holyfield could go 12 with Lewis and Lewis ran from Holyfield the whole time.Tyson could do nothing against Lewis but prey it would be over soon.
Tyson would and could never even beat somebody who had a good chin and was there to win.Tua wins easily like i said.
Pugnacious_Z 05-26-2006, 03:14 AM Tommyhearns, i think every1 will agree with me when i say Your the dumbest **** in this forum. you talk to much shit for ur own good. you just said Lewis cudve finished Tyson in 1 round, dats shows ur fuken stupidity retard. watch that fight and listen to what emanuel steward is telling lewis in between rounds, hes tellin him to finish tyson quikly but lewis just cudnt do it until the 8th, and even then tyson wasnt out of it. Tyson wud drop Tua, Tua doesnt have the chin every1 thinks he has, every1 whos faced him has ran awar from him like he was a plague or sumthing.
THE REAL NINJA 05-26-2006, 10:14 PM lol whatever "people build up Liston to make Ali look better" :eek: Bowe and Briggs called Tyson out at times 1.when they were not in line for a shot at Tyson 2. Tyson was in jail and it was just talk 3.Briggs said he wanted to fight Tyson after Mike had been beat by Holy and far past his prime ...Holyfield has one of the best chins ever and Lewis was fighting a boxing match "styles make fights" Manny wanted Lewis to take Tyson out because Tyson can land big at any time ...no matter what Ruddock was or was not in skill, he was one of the hardest hitters ever same for Bruno ....Foreman made his title run when Tyson was in jail the time was never right and was not hyped that much at the time in the first place ....Bonecrusher fine drugs got to him and the rest from that time more then lack of skill ....Tye Fields um ok you are right on that one :confused:
THE REAL NINJA 05-26-2006, 10:17 PM lol whatever people build up Liston to make Ali look better :eek: Bowe and Briggs called Tyson out at times 1.when they were not in line for a shot at Tyson 2. Tyson was in jail and it was just talk 3.Briggs said he wanted to fight Tyson after Mike had been beat by Holy and far past his prime ...Holyfield has one of the best chins ever and Lewis was fighting a boxing match "styles make fights" Manny wanted Lewis to take Tyson out because Tyson can land big at any time ...no matter what Ruddock was or was not he was one of the hardest hitters ever same for Bruno ....Foreman made his title run when Tyson was in jail the time was never right and was not hyped that much at the time in the first place ....Bonecrusher fine drugs got to him and the rest from that time more then lack of skill ....Tye Fields um ok you are right on that one :confused:when tyson got out he was over muscled the look of a fighter has nothing at all to do with time and what is going on inside of the fighter.Case in point Holmes was a better fighter late 30's-40 then Holyfield but Holyfield looks better at that age
aljon 05-27-2006, 02:02 PM Tua TKO 1, Prime Tyson KOs Tua in 1st
joeytrimble 05-27-2006, 03:09 PM wanna know what i find funny....these guys wanna say tua would win because he took punches from ike ibeu...
yes guys thats it... tua would when because he stood there like a lump on a log while ike beat his brains in ...might i add this is pure hindsight but MIGHT I ADD ...tua hasnt been the same since!
so just because tua got a carear altering hammering at the hands of ike dosnt make it possbible for his chin to be unmatched!
your telling me a fat shit tua could beat a prime tyson?!?! your talking a fat 5'10 bald dude whos head is so ****ing big you could land a jet on it ....and tyson wouldnt be able to connect with that?
something tells me this guy thought that thunderbox shit was real
VERSATILE2K9 05-27-2006, 03:16 PM ok jus cause he took good shots from other fighters doesnt mean he wont go down when facing tyson
JDizzle79 05-27-2006, 03:18 PM wanna know what i find funny....these guys wanna say tua would win because he took punches from ike ibeu...
yes guys thats it... tua would when because he stood there like a lump on a log while ike beat his brains in ...might i add this is pure hindsight but MIGHT I ADD ...tua hasnt been the same since!
so just because tua got a carear altering hammering at the hands of ike dosnt make it possbible for his chin to be unmatched!
your telling me a fat shit tua could beat a prime tyson?!?! your talking a fat 5'10 bald dude whos head is so ****ing big you could land a jet on it ....and tyson wouldnt be able to connect with that?
something tells me this guy thought that thunderbox shit was real
Tua proved a lot when he knocked Ruiz out in 19 seconds
VERSATILE2K9 05-27-2006, 03:24 PM Tua proved a lot when he knocked Ruiz out in 19 seconds
ahahah no he didnt
joeytrimble 05-27-2006, 05:07 PM tyson proved alot when he knocked out one of the greatest lightheavyweights of all time mike spinks in 50 something seconds...
and dont dare try to compair ruiz to spinks because we both know spinks would jinx that ass
paul750 05-29-2006, 01:12 PM Tua had a lot of skills, except good fundamental boxing ability. But Tyson was a guy who came to his man and attacked, thats the way he fought, and that would give the iron chined, strong willed, powerful Tua, chances. It would be a dangerous fight for Tyson. styles make fights. Tyson fought better boxers in his time, but i don't think he ever fought a guy like Tua before, who had that sort of chin and power.
Yaman 05-30-2006, 06:22 PM Styles do make fight, but Tyson was not a swarming fighter like most people thing. He could box really good if he needed to. But if Tyson went up in a slugging fest with David Tua(That would be the best thing ever) he would be carefull because Tua had a very big punch, BUT, Tyson was superior to Tua when it came to slugging. He could move faster, better handspeed, better powerfull combo's and great headmovement. There you have Tua loading up on big bombs, one at a time, Tyson would throw up to 5 punches.
So i think Mike Tyson would always win. Even from McNeely to Holyfield(Not after).
ceboxer15 06-24-2006, 07:27 PM Tua by KO in either rounds 5 or 6
Zigga 06-24-2006, 10:48 PM When both in there prime, Tua isnt even on Tysons level.
VERSATILE2K9 11-07-2007, 11:04 PM throwwwwwwwwwback
TysonHagler 11-08-2007, 12:14 AM throwwwwwwwwwback
:rofl: @ you bumpin a 1 year old thread.
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