View Full Version : If Hatton Beats Tyzsu????


hitterwitter
02-08-2005, 02:26 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??

Mr. Ryan
02-08-2005, 02:28 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??
First things first, Hatton will lose very badly. Second, when Tszyu wins, I think he'll go up to 147 and fight Judah.

Cletus Funk
02-08-2005, 02:31 PM
Stop your hating and answer the question Asian :p

england4ever
02-08-2005, 02:33 PM
I thnk hatton has a chance if he keeps himself covered. I believe it will raise his reputation but i still feel he will have to cross the sea before he becomes truly recognised as great.

PessimisticPug
02-08-2005, 02:34 PM
Ricky Hatton would be hurt by Tyzsu, if not damaged for good. Hatton still has alot of amatuer in his fight, I'm not saying that he isnt skilled or tough but Tyzsu is a seasoned professional and one of the better ones at that. Hatton beating Tyzsu would be like Eithiopia beating the U.S in a war. Hattons managers are too smart to throw their cash cow in with that little monster of a fighter..........Rockin'

hitterwitter
02-08-2005, 02:34 PM
First things first, Hatton will lose very badly. Second, when Tszyu wins, I think he'll go up to 147 and fight Judah.

I think Tszyu will win but he' already said he wont fight Judah again because Judah said he woudn't give Tszyu a rematch if he Won the first fight.

But i said if Hatton wins? if it goes to the cards Hatton will get the decision, with the fight being in manchester.

theironone
02-08-2005, 02:36 PM
Thats bull**** man, this isn't italy, if zoo beats him down for 12 rounds then he gets the nod, which he will but in about 8

Cletus Funk
02-08-2005, 02:37 PM
Hattons managers are too smart to throw their cash cow in with that little monster of a fighter..........Rockin'

The fight's in June and sold out.

I don't think Hatton's style could be less amateurish to be honest. He's gonna break up that old man. :D

The1God
02-08-2005, 02:37 PM
My opinion will definately change if he beat KT. I don't think low of him. His problem is Frank Warren. Hatton will fight anybody and give it his best. I personally think KT will beat him. But if Hatton wins he will get what ever he wants and he should. He should go out and beat the hell out of Shamba Mitchell for bad mouthing him. But no money there. I wish him lots of luck!

Arrington
02-08-2005, 02:37 PM
Hatton needs to win by KO to prove himself

PessimisticPug
02-08-2005, 02:37 PM
is that fight already scheduled?....Rockin'

loangunZ
02-08-2005, 03:14 PM
I've never seen someone work the body like hatton, but if he wins over Zoo he needs to move his fights to america to become well know and respected. They seem alittle to protective of him and I think some of his fights in the past could have gone differently had he not been always fighting out of his backyard.

borikua
02-08-2005, 03:33 PM
If Hatton beats Tszyu, he'll be the top dog at 140...The winner should face Cotto or Harris to unify...I'm would love to see Cotto-Hatton, two of the best body punchers in boxing P4P..

The1God
02-08-2005, 03:52 PM
Hatton needs to win by KO to prove himself

Not true. He has proved a lot up to now.

Hurlex
02-08-2005, 04:11 PM
hatton would have to actully be beating Kostya and get a ud or ko him to gain my respect,if kostya dominates him and Hattons ko's Kostya by some lucky shot or BS call because there in his country then it wouldnt prove anything...rememner kostya will have to be at his best i can see it now,poit deductions left and right for KT or a BS call..he will have to ko hatton to get a Split D,...anway KT wins in 5rounds or less

PRboxingfan
02-08-2005, 04:22 PM
I'm not looking for a UD. He needs to KO or win decisively (a UD in Manchester is worthless because the judges might be a bit biased). If he does win (which I doubt), then he will be #2 on my P4P list, right behind Lil' Floyd.

baya
02-08-2005, 04:58 PM
if hatton beats tzuyu .....


a pig will fly out of my ass.

baya
02-08-2005, 05:01 PM
I'm not looking for a UD. He needs to KO or win decisively (a UD in Manchester is worthless because the judges might be a bit biased). If he does win (which I doubt), then he will be #2 on my P4P list, right behind Lil' Floyd.

WHOWA!!! calm down dude! even if a pig did manage to find its way out of my ass on june 4th, i wouldn't put him at #2 on ANY p4p list.

Warrior Spirit
02-08-2005, 05:03 PM
if hatton beats tzuyu .....


a pig will fly out of my ass.

LOL, good ****ing call!

Slipx
02-08-2005, 05:08 PM
just in case someone missed my last post about this

but hattons opponents have a total of 353 losses
and tszyu's opponents have a total of 118 losses

Most of the time I don't trust numbers but I sure as hell trust those.

PRboxingfan
02-08-2005, 05:10 PM
WHOWA!!! calm down dude! even if a pig did manage to find its way out of my ass on june 4th, i wouldn't put him at #2 on ANY p4p list.
Why not? Don't you become the man by beating the man? I'd replace Tszyu (currently #3 behind Mayweather and Hopkins) with the man who beat him. Oh, I see, I put #2 before, I meant #3, that was a typo.

baya
02-08-2005, 05:19 PM
Why not? Don't you become the man by beating the man? I'd replace Tszyu (currently #3 behind Mayweather and Hopkins) with the man who beat him. Oh, I see, I put #2 before, I meant #3, that was a typo.

dude, no where near the top 5 ... **** the top 10 ... dude you need longevity, good opposition and champoinship calibre intangibles, esse. theres no WAY you can tell all that from hattons first test to put him at #3. there's no way a win over KT would warrant placement above pac, wright, barrera, corrales, judah, johnson and morales.

IMHO.

Floydmayweather
02-08-2005, 06:26 PM
If he beats Zoo i would put him in the top 10.

baya
02-08-2005, 06:35 PM
If he beats Zoo i would put him in the top 10.

problem is, nobody asked you.



















just kidding :)

Mr. Violence
02-08-2005, 08:36 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??



Yes of course if he beats Tszyu...that is an incredible feat...I'll respect him if he can do it.

elveiel
02-08-2005, 08:45 PM
if hatton beats tzuyu .....


a pig will fly out of my ass.

With your ass being inactive because the **** comes out of your mouth, i wouldnt be suprised that your ass finds something else to do. :p :D

Sir_Jose
02-08-2005, 08:49 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??


Of course peoples opinion of him will change, but dont worry he wont beat Tszyu.

If and when he does get blown out of the water people will jump all over him and say that he was a fraud all along and then he is going to have to work 10x harder to gain respect and he wont be able to pull that whole no you have to come to my country to fight me BS he'll have no choice.

Mech.
02-08-2005, 08:50 PM
I'm not looking for a UD. He needs to KO or win decisively (a UD in Manchester is worthless because the judges might be a bit biased). If he does win (which I doubt), then he will be #2 on my P4P list, right behind Lil' Floyd.


Yeah i agree, he would have to at least visibly hurt/wobble Tszyu to get his cred.

Sir_Jose
02-08-2005, 08:50 PM
With your ass being inactive because the **** comes out of your mouth, i wouldnt be suprised that your ass finds something else to do. :p :D

hahaha


Now thats good stuff

elveiel
02-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Why not? Don't you become the man by beating the man? I'd replace Tszyu (currently #3 behind Mayweather and Hopkins) with the man who beat him. Oh, I see, I put #2 before, I meant #3, that was a typo.

I dont think i would rank him that high, if he beats Tszyu then i'd put him top 10.

Beating a great fighter like Tszyu would put him firmly in the top 10, but IMO a fighter needs more than 1 big win to desereve P4P top 5.

Sir_Jose
02-08-2005, 08:53 PM
Guys get to the top of the p4p list for doing it over an amount of time against the best avalable to you not just because they had one good win.

Hatton would not be p4p if he beat Tszyu.

elveiel
02-08-2005, 08:58 PM
Guys get to the top of the p4p list for doing it over an amount of time against the best avalable to you not just because they had one good win.

Hatton would not be p4p if he beat Tszyu.

Other fighters have beaten lesser P4P opponets and got their place, beating Tszyu(IMO P4P number 2) should get him decent ranking and respect.

NAB
02-08-2005, 09:04 PM
If Hatton wins, I'll eat my hat & ask for several more.

SonnyJ
02-08-2005, 09:27 PM
no way hatton beats tszyu. but if he did beat him i'd have to give him credit for beating the best junior welterweight ever! :)

PRboxingfan
02-08-2005, 09:51 PM
dude, no where near the top 5 ... **** the top 10 ... dude you need longevity, good opposition and champoinship calibre intangibles, esse. theres no WAY you can tell all that from hattons first test to put him at #3. there's no way a win over KT would warrant placement above pac, wright, barrera, corrales, judah, johnson and morales.

IMHO.
If people are going to humor me with the idea of Hatton beating KZ then I will humor them with a top 5 ranking for the lad.

On the real, tho, if he does beat Kostya he deserves to be at #10 at least. Tarver broke on the scene for beating Roy, why can't Ricky bust on the scene if he beats Kostya? No higher than 10, tho.

patto1984
02-08-2005, 09:52 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??


thats just crazy talk!

mic573
02-08-2005, 10:01 PM
If Hatton beats Tszyu I would place him at the 10 spot and he would gain back some of the respect I had for him when I first started watching him fight. I don't see that though. Kostya by decision.

bandito
02-08-2005, 10:15 PM
tszyu will stop hatton, but win or lose, hatton will still need to come to the states no matter what!! the money and big fights will be here. not everyone is going to go to england!!

davico
02-08-2005, 11:22 PM
IF Hatton is able to beat KT I don't think there is any doubt that he will gain respect as a boxer. I don't think you could put him up in the top 5 #for#, but he would definitly have to be classed as the top 140 pounder. If the fight goes to the cards and he gets a hometown decision, I think that Frank Warren and by default Hatton will lose all credibility and he will be forced to fight in the US, because KT would be the last person to go over there, Title or not.

Personally I feel that KT will win by late round stoppage, but win or lose I think he is going to 147.

Cletus Funk
02-09-2005, 03:47 AM
Guys get to the top of the p4p list for doing it over an amount of time against the best avalable to you not just because they had one good win.

Hatton would not be p4p if he beat Tszyu.

Jose, a few of the generally recognised top 10 on this forum have had just that, 1 good win, and arguably some haven't even had that.

Put it this way, how many of your top 10 have beaten someone of KT's calibre? Not even BHop has if you don't count him beating up on smaller guys. Hatton should easily be classed as top 10 if he wins because it will prove he's the real deal.

The Golden Boy
02-09-2005, 04:40 AM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

If grandma had a dick she'd be grandpa!!! It ain't gon happen.

J !
02-09-2005, 06:40 AM
ok if hatotn beats Zoo i see him taking on the mandatory IBF challenger, its not gonna be a straight unification bout.

The after mayweather has fought Gatti, the following will happen:

If gatti wins, unification, if mayweather wins gatti fights hatton the winner fights Cotto.

I dont think mayweather will figure to be honest he isnt big enoug box office and has proved **** all at light welter as yet, I can see gatti beating Floyd at 140.

Gatti hatton has box office written all over it, two all action styles that will smash PPV recs for the smaller weights.

elveiel
02-09-2005, 07:14 AM
Jose, a few of the generally recognised top 10 on this forum have had just that, 1 good win, and arguably some haven't even had that.

Put it this way, how many of your top 10 have beaten someone of KT's calibre? Not even BHop has if you don't count him beating up on smaller guys. Hatton should easily be classed as top 10 if he wins because it will prove he's the real deal.

I agree,

How could the number 1 in the best division in boxing(140) not be in the P4P rankings? If Hatton wins he's in my top 10 P4P list.

elveiel
02-09-2005, 07:18 AM
ok if hatotn beats Zoo i see him taking on the mandatory IBF challenger, its not gonna be a straight unification bout.

The after mayweather has fought Gatti, the following will happen:

If gatti wins, unification, if mayweather wins gatti fights hatton the winner fights Cotto.

I dont think mayweather will figure to be honest he isnt big enoug box office and has proved **** all at light welter as yet, I can see gatti beating Floyd at 140.

Gatti hatton has box office written all over it, two all action styles that will smash PPV recs for the smaller weights.

I think times running out for Gatti to beat Mayweather, IMO Gatti would have beat Mayweather last year but now Mayweathers growing into the weight well i'm picking him to win, If Mayweather has another 6 months for his body to progress he'll give anyone at 140 hell.

J !
02-09-2005, 07:23 AM
Maybe Mate But Sparring Sessions Agianst the Likes Of Brussels Prove Nothing.

elveiel
02-09-2005, 07:31 AM
Maybe Mate But Sparring Sessions Agianst the Likes Of Brussels Prove Nothing.

I know, he wasnt in the same league as Mayweather. :D

I'm fine with him taking a warm up but he needs to fight one of the top guys now.

baya
02-09-2005, 09:13 AM
With your ass being inactive because the **** comes out of your mouth, i wouldnt be suprised that your ass finds something else to do. :p :D

i bow to this come back

LuKahnLi
02-09-2005, 09:35 AM
If Hatton beats Tszyu, then we know the apocalypse is near.

Mr. Untouchable
02-09-2005, 10:02 AM
It won't happen, Hatton hasn't faces anyone like tszyu ever in his career. Hatton is going to get bloodied and battered

J !
02-09-2005, 10:08 AM
LLOYD HONEYGUN HADNT FOUGHT ANYONE LIKE DON CURRY NIETHER AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

hmm all this based on 9 mins action in the past 2 years against a feather fisted sharmba mitchell, be careful gents you may end up looking a little silly.

this wont be a one sided a beatdown i assure you.

im working on article as to the reasons for the BBN why which ill post the link to once its done.

its 60-40 in zoo's favour in my book but i wont make my final mind up til i see what hatton looks like at the weigh in.

m00ks
02-09-2005, 12:17 PM
If Hatton beats Tszyu I'll dress as a woman.

MexicanWarrior
02-09-2005, 01:06 PM
If Hatton did beat Tyzsu would it change peoples opinions of him or does he still have to go to America to prove himself.

Who would he fight next if he won??

If Hatton beats him
ill let you castrate me.
how abou that??

theironone
02-09-2005, 01:22 PM
Any excuse to show off your secret weekend fetishes

scramwarrior
02-09-2005, 03:34 PM
When Douglas beat Tyson I didn't see many people say Douglas was the best heavyweight in the world because there were other proven heavyweights in the world like Holyfield. This situation would be similar to that. Hatton would get respect only if he beats Zoo convincingly. Any close decision for Hatton in his own hometown would probably make fans think less of Hatton than some already do. It's kinda unfair I know, but it's not anyone's fault except Hatton and Frank Warren due to the fact that they've already pissed alot of fans off with their never-leave-home, never-fight-anybody-good philosophy.