View Full Version : stamina vs. "bench press"
deh707 05-22-2006, 09:52 PM let's say there's 2 versions of a guy named Bob. Bob A and Bob B.
they have 4 weeks to prepare for a sparring match.
they both weigh 205 pounds. (mostly fat).
both Bobs decide to do only ONE type of training.
Bob A decides to run/jog 4 miles a day.
Bob B decides to do the overrated benchpressing 120 a day.
after 4 weeks, who would win in a 6 round fight?
drez24 05-22-2006, 10:00 PM let's say there's 2 versions of a guy named Bob. Bob A and Bob B.
they have 4 weeks to prepare for a sparring match.
they both weigh 205 pounds. (mostly fat).
both Bobs decide to do only ONE type of training.
Bob A decides to run/jog 4 miles a day.
Bob B decides to do the overrated benchpressing 120 a day.
after 4 weeks, who would win in a 6 round fight?
Bob C wins by way of rocket launcher double KO.
deh707 05-22-2006, 10:01 PM haha where did C come from? halo?
yrrej 05-22-2006, 10:15 PM The one with the most heart. Neither one is doing enough exercise to get in shape.....
deh707 05-22-2006, 10:36 PM The one with the most heart. Neither one is doing enough exercise to get in shape.....
what does Bob A have to do to last longer in a long fight than Bob B?
more sprinting?
RAESAAD 05-22-2006, 10:38 PM Stamina is the most important thing if they are of equal skill at this point. :boxing:
Da Iceman 05-22-2006, 10:54 PM bob "a". power doesnt come from arms it comes from legs so the bench press would to absolutly nothing for him. and bob "a" wouldnt be tired and would be able to put up a good fight for 6 or even 8 rounds and have plenty left. while bob "b" would have the stamina of an average person and be tired after 1 or 2 rounds.
deh707 05-22-2006, 10:56 PM thanks for the replies. i thought A would win too. im tired of my friends saying benchpressing is the best for boxing.
Bob A pulls out of the fight from depression from having such an unoriginal name:p
eazy_mas 05-23-2006, 01:08 AM it a wierd question
it depends it like saying what if bruce lee used BJJ instead of kung fu
cant really tell some fight fight with there boxing skills
JDizzle79 05-23-2006, 01:10 AM i say defense ans chin play intot the mix as well...if the kid with all the stamina can't take a power punch, the fight is done
Brockton Lip 05-23-2006, 01:36 AM If I had to put money on it, I'd say Bob A.
enadeus 05-23-2006, 02:00 AM I'd say his opponent who does both ;)
Rockin' 05-23-2006, 02:37 AM The whole thing with the guys who love to lift heacyweights and look strong is that they have no endurance.
Bob A, running all of the time will help him but it will not fully condition your body for fighting. A great trainer that I had used to say that boxing is much like running a marathon, except somebodies beating the shit out of you the whole time your running in it.
Bob B would have fight for about 30 seconds. Then he would become fatigued. That same trainer used to say that fatigue will make cowards of us all.
Bob A by stoppage because Bob B had no gas to finish.
Rockin' :boxing:
Amaro 05-23-2006, 03:03 AM now that's a fight I wouldn't even think about watching lol
PunchDrunk 05-23-2006, 05:04 AM THis thread is stupid. It's oversimplified, no one should ever train like a or b for a fight ever.
By Rockin's logic, the best fighter in the world is a marathon runner!
cobracore 05-23-2006, 05:10 AM A wins, no doubt. Bench pressing won't do much for anything, really. It'll give you more strength - but not more punching power, more clinching and pushing strength, which is important, but not nearly as important as stamina.
A will be able to go for as many rounds as he needs before B runs out of gas. Even if their both featherfisted and granite chinned, B won't last for more than 2 rounds if he's just benching.
RichPorter 05-23-2006, 08:25 AM Due to the training implied we can assume that skill levels will not be a factor in the fight, what would be developing though is one boxer with the physique more like a boxer and one with a physique more like a brawler, in an unskilled match i would probably give the edge to the bench - presser as it would probably take fewer hits to damage his opponent, however with greater stamina and speed developed by running the other "bob" would be harder to catch and would probably be able to throw more punches and more consistantly, if both boxers had some level of skill, i would give the fight to the runner.
Kid Achilles 05-23-2006, 10:57 AM The presser would not hit much harder though. Power would be about the same, maybe a slight edge to the runner who will have stronger legs, abs, and lower back from all that running, as well as better balance and coordination. The difference in stamina would be decisive, although even the runner would tire fairly quickly because he hasn't done any sparring, hasn't hit the bags, hasn't made use of the jump rope.
The runner wins through superior conditioning if both have the same psychological makeup and experience in combat situations. He'll have a body that's harder and yet more relaxed, better balanced and more capable of working as a unit to deliver a swifter more damaging punch. The fight would not be pretty to watch but running is a better exercise to prepare an individual for boxing than benchpressing.
rocco1252 05-23-2006, 11:15 AM let's say there's 2 versions of a guy named Bob. Bob A and Bob B.
they have 4 weeks to prepare for a sparring match.
they both weigh 205 pounds. (mostly fat).
both Bobs decide to do only ONE type of training.
Bob A decides to run/jog 4 miles a day.
Bob B decides to do the overrated benchpressing 120 a day.
after 4 weeks, who would win in a 6 round fight?
if we had the same judges as juarez vs. barerra it would be a controversial decision for the less of the two opponents so I would say Bencher in this situation but if it was a normal in shape person he could last a few rounds more than the average bench pressing joe. Just remember the bigger your muscles the slower you are, the more energy it takes to throw them and your less flexable so the stamina should win in this case provided he fights smart and doesnt get mauled.
deh707 05-23-2006, 11:31 AM yeah i meant this fight to be unskilled, both guys only "know what they've seen in matches". just one guy with stamina and other just bench pressing (<-- the overconfident one).
Rockin' 05-23-2006, 11:33 AM By Rockin's logic, the best fighter in the world is a marathon runner!
The logic of this thread is the only thing in question. But still I would definately take a new kid that did his roadwork over a kid who just lifted weights.
PunchDrunk, read the 2nd paragraph of my original post again. And then tell me again that I said a marathon runner is a good fighter. I simply stated something that my trainer used to say to me. He would say that people think that running a marathon is hard. He would then tell me that running a marathon wasnt shit. Try boxing and then youll see what its like to run a marathon with somebody beating the shit out of you the whole way. And in the 1st sentence of that second paragraph I stated that running will help but will NOT fully prepare your body for fighting.
Rockin' :boxing:
PunchDrunk 05-23-2006, 11:54 AM The logic of this thread is the only thing in question. But still I would definately take a new kid that did his roadwork over a kid who just lifted weights.
PunchDrunk, read the 2nd paragraph of my original post again. And then tell me again that I said a marathon runner is a good fighter. I simply stated something that my trainer used to say to me. He would say that people think that running a marathon is hard. He would then tell me that running a marathon wasnt shit. Try boxing and then youll see what its like to run a marathon with somebody beating the shit out of you the whole way. And in the 1st sentence of that second paragraph I stated that running will help but will NOT fully prepare your body for fighting.
Rockin' :boxing:
I stand corrected. :)
PunchDrunk 05-23-2006, 12:00 PM yeah i meant this fight to be unskilled, both guys only "know what they've seen in matches". just one guy with stamina and other just bench pressing (<-- the overconfident one).
So, are we talking a hypothetical scenario, with two fighters who are EXACTLY the same (like clones or something), or an actual scenario, like you and a buddy of yours who bench presses?
The first one is just dumb, because it doesn't prove anything about anything in the real world.
The second one is dumb as well, because no one in here can say anything about who would win such a fight, without knowing the two guys in question.
Basically this thread is dumb, and I'm an even bigger idiot, for recognizing that and participating in it anyway... :rolleyes:
deh707 05-23-2006, 08:11 PM 2 clones of same dude. i was bored in class and just thought of it. cant a guy fantasize sometimes? im only human.
Kid Achilles 05-23-2006, 08:18 PM This isn't such a terrible question. He's essentially just asking what is a more important exercise for boxing, weight lifting or running. The answer is, of course, roadwork.
deh707 05-23-2006, 08:21 PM thanks Archilles
Bob B wins by knocking out Bob A from a low blow that isnt called
hemichromis 05-25-2006, 04:16 PM benchpress should adda nice lot of strength to the arms and shoulder and despite what alot of people say, arm power is very important for developing power in punches they are the way at which you transfer bodyweight into a punch so if they are weak they will take the impact instead of the opponent also most fights between the untrained are very short trials of strength more than anything
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