View Full Version : Mexican Trio Want Manny Next!


Rick Reeno
10-04-2004, 11:59 PM
Mexican trio Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera and Oscar Larrios are all
targeting Manny Pacquiao as their prefered next opponent.

In an interview, counting down to Morales V Barrera 111 WBC Championship
Super Featherweight blockbuster, Erik stressed that in his opinion a fight
against Manny would be a tougher prospect for him than the one he's
currently training for. He also disagreed that this final clash with Barrera
makes better business sense than meeting Manny in the ring. [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=72)]

Pound4Pound1986
10-05-2004, 12:03 AM
wow its going to be complicated to give them what they want, yo Rick why is this on the forums?

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-05-2004, 12:19 AM
Dont u mean Juan Manuel Marquez he wants manny.

It's all about the money i believe. So Manny will probably end up fighting Morales. Instead of finishing unfinished business against Marquez and risking a loss that might cost him a big money fight against El Terrible.

Zhen
10-05-2004, 12:31 AM
A Mexican quad all wants to fight one fighter. Didn't Larios move up just to face Pacquiao?

Rick Reeno
10-05-2004, 01:19 AM
all news auto archives in here for people that miss stories and can give comments

Epie2
10-05-2004, 01:57 AM
It's ironic 4 fighters "declaring" they want to fight the Pacman and yet the Pacman has no one to fight.

Pound4Pound1986
10-05-2004, 01:59 AM
It's ironic 4 fighters "declaring" they want to fight the Pacman and yet the Pacman has no one to fight.

he has a fight schedule in the manilla

chito
10-05-2004, 05:03 AM
he has a fight schedule in the manilla

what fight is that? there's no final words from manny's camp. all are just prospects! is st. clair the one you are talking about?

psychopath
10-05-2004, 05:10 AM
Yeah . . .yeah . . . yeah . . . here we go again. These clowns better put up or shut up. These are the same ****s they said before, but comes negotiation time . . . it all turns out as HOT AIR. Here's MANNY's priority fights . . . MoRALES; HARISSON; CHI . . . the rest? Eat your heart out gentlemen after giving team Pac so many run arounds you ****I'N wait for your turn to get a crack at the number one pound for pound featherweight . . . ha . . . ha . . . ha it's payback time! :cool:

psychopath
10-05-2004, 05:16 AM
what fight is that? there's no final words from manny's camp. all are just prospects! is st. clair the one you are talking about?


Brother consider that a done deal . . . all parties have already agreed verbally . . . just waiting for the formal signing of documents.

And take note that it's not a walk in the park for Pacquiao. St. Claire is a campaigner in the 130 and 135 who have fought and stayed with some of the best. He lost 3 of those fights but he mixed it up with the big guys until the last round and never got kayoed.

grayfist
10-05-2004, 06:22 AM
This is just what Manny needs to get him looking beyond St. Clair. :rolleyes: It would be foolish of Pac to think of any fight other than the next one. And if St. Clair is the next on the calendar, then it has to be St. Clair he should be thinking of.

Boxing is a seldom forgiving bizniz. Most often, fans see a star as one who's only as good as his last fight.

Pacman should tell his management group to shape up and do what they're there to do: Get him THE FIGHTS! Earn their keep! In the meantime, he should focus on St. Clair.

Only after the ink is dry on a contract vs. either Morales, Larios or Barrera (or all of them), should Manny think of them. :mad:

ELPacman
10-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Ok well good luck. Because of all the chickens around here and nobody signing any fight contracts with him, Manny has just flown back to the Ph. I don't blame him. Why would you train for nothing when you have no idea who your training for? Staying in shape and training are two different things. Manny always stays in shape though he doesn't seem to enjoy training to prepare for nothing. All these names have been thrown out though nothing is signed so who knows when we'll see Manny in the ring again. Of course next year though.

psychopath
10-05-2004, 04:31 PM
This is just what Manny needs to get him looking beyond St. Clair. :rolleyes: It would be foolish of Pac to think of any fight other than the next one. And if St. Clair is the next on the calendar, then it has to be St. Clair he should be thinking of.

Boxing is a seldom forgiving bizniz. Most often, fans see a star as one who's only as good as his last fight.

Pacman should tell his management group to shape up and do what they're there to do: Get him THE FIGHTS! Earn their keep! In the meantime, he should focus on St. Clair.

Only after the ink is dry on a contract vs. either Morales, Larios or Barrera (or all of them), should Manny think of them. :mad:


Your are very sharp grayfist . . . reading between the lines . . . Yeah this looks like nothing but distractions being instigated by the other quarters . . . I also find the timing of the release of this article really questionable. And to think that all these Mexicans just recently avoided that confrontation with Pacquiao now they all want Pacquiao at the same time . . . funny ****. :D

Verbl_Kint
10-05-2004, 04:39 PM
he has a fight schedule in the manilla
He's fighting Gairy St. Clair, his last resort to get a good fight after the entire North American Continent ducked him.

lapulapu
10-05-2004, 06:21 PM
Your are very sharp grayfist . . . reading between the lines . . . Yeah this looks like nothing but distractions being instigated by the other quarters . . . I also find the timing of the release of this article really questionable. And to think that all these Mexicans just recently avoided that confrontation with Pacquiao now they all want Pacquiao at the same time . . . funny ****. :D

These mexican chickens are fighting each but still dreaming they'll have guts to fight PACMAN.

Now they know that their chicken fight needs meaning, they need to mention PACQUIAO so people will interest in their fakeboxing!

m00ks
10-05-2004, 06:37 PM
Well I read that Manny Pacquiao won't be staying for long. He plans to retire after a rematch with MAB, JMM and superfight w/ Morales. He wanted to make Freitas his final match till he lost to Chico. Man! I thought he'd stick around for a lot longer than 4 fights. He'll retire before he's 30!

lapulapu
10-05-2004, 06:57 PM
Well I read that Manny Pacquiao won't be staying for long. He plans to retire after a rematch with MAB, JMM and superfight w/ Morales. He wanted to make Freitas his final match till he lost to Chico. Man! I thought he'd stick around for a lot longer than 4 fights. He'll retire before he's 30!


Manny has still 6 years before going to politics. He'll run for president.
Now don't say he's not qualified. The people will vote him anyway. Actually, the politicians there are nervously eyeing him now. It's not just his opponents in the ring that are shaking!!!

m00ks
10-05-2004, 07:03 PM
Manny has still 6 years before going to politics. He'll run for president.
Now don't say he's not qualified. The people will vote him anyway. Actually, the politicians there are nervously eyeing him now. It's not just his opponents in the ring that are shaking!!!

Please I hope Manny isn't even considering it, cuz I'm telling with the way things are going, he WILL win. I'm just praying it's not in his list of plans.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Well I read that Manny Pacquiao won't be staying for long. He plans to retire after a rematch with MAB, JMM and superfight w/ Morales. He wanted to make Freitas his final match till he lost to Chico. Man! I thought he'd stick around for a lot longer than 4 fights. He'll retire before he's 30!

So will Morales.

Warriors like these dont really see much of a career after 30. Example JC. Chavez. He was on a steep decline after 30.

m00ks
10-05-2004, 07:50 PM
So will Morales.

Warriors like these dont really see much of a career after 30. Example JC. Chavez. He was on a steep decline after 30.

I guess it's best for their health considering the fact that they both started at an early age. It would be a shame to see them go though...I mean just thin of teh featherweight division later on when the elite decides to hangem up. MAB will be going soon, Pac at 30, JMM is already 31. Who's left in the same caliber?

psychopath
10-05-2004, 07:52 PM
If indeed these TRIO wants Manny Pacquiao then by all means start the informal talks or pre-negotiations now. The team with the better offer get's the first shot at Manny Pacquiao.

At the same time team PAC should also be on their toes trying to arrange a fight with Harrison or Chi this early. They should have learned their lessons on their sad experience of failed negotiations and change their ****I'N STYLE of waiting for the last moment before moving their LAZY BUTTS.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-05-2004, 08:08 PM
I guess it's best for their health considering the fact that they both started at an early age. It would be a shame to see them go though...I mean just thin of teh featherweight division later on when the elite decides to hangem up. MAB will be going soon, Pac at 30, JMM is already 31. Who's left in the same caliber?

Someone will always show up. Only a matter of time.

Just like Morales showed Zaragoza to hang up the gloves and Pacquiao told Barrera, someone will come and tell them.

grayfist
10-06-2004, 12:29 AM
Your are very sharp grayfist . . . reading between the lines . . . Yeah this looks like nothing but distractions being instigated by the other quarters . . . I also find the timing of the release of this article really questionable. And to think that all these Mexicans just recently avoided that confrontation with Pacquiao now they all want Pacquiao at the same time . . . funny ****. :D Why, THANKS for the accolade ("sharp"), pal! In as much as I don't get too many, I'll take it! ;) Ha! Ha! Ha! Thanks again!!! :)

psychopath
10-06-2004, 12:52 AM
Why, THANKS for the accolade ("sharp"), pal! In as much as I don't get too many, I'll take it! ;) Ha! Ha! Ha! Thanks again!!! :)



No problem you deserve it . . . I always find your posts very sensible and nicely presented. Keep punching BROTHER! ;)

grayfist
10-06-2004, 01:03 AM
No problem you deserve it . . . I always find your posts very sensible and nicely presented. Keep punching BROTHER! ;)Wow!!! When it rains, it pours!!! Thanx again!!! And, yes, I will... :)

psychopath
10-06-2004, 04:35 AM
Someone will always show up. Only a matter of time.

Just like Morales showed Zaragoza to hang up the gloves and Pacquiao told Barrera, someone will come and tell them.


That's the cycle of life . . . a new generation will always be born to begin a new era . . . nobody wins against TIME.

DR. FREECLOUD
10-06-2004, 03:57 PM
they could all beat that clown. and as far as manny for prez?!?!? goes to show you what kinda country that is. the lord has truely blessed me.

grayfist
10-06-2004, 04:49 PM
they could all beat that clown. and as far as manny for prez?!?!? goes to show you what kinda country that is. the lord has truely blessed me.Pardon my asking...which country has has made you feel you have the Lord's blessings? :confused:

m00ks
10-06-2004, 05:02 PM
He's prolly a mexican who says he got blessed for having the ability to climb the fence and seek refuge in the arms of uncle Sam.

grayfist
10-06-2004, 05:23 PM
He's prolly a mexican who says he got blessed for having the ability to climb the fence and seek refuge in the arms of uncle Sam.Figures... Hi pal! :)

m00ks
10-06-2004, 06:55 PM
Figures... Hi pal! :)

Sup fist, long time no talk.

grayfist
10-06-2004, 08:15 PM
Sup fist, long time no talk.Ha! Ha! Ha! was out only a few days. Have been scanning the posts in the past two. Enjoying myself!!!! Especially your threads/posts. :) Great to be back, Buddy! Luv it here! :D

DR. FREECLOUD
10-07-2004, 10:12 AM
He's prolly a mexican who says he got blessed for having the ability to climb the fence and seek refuge in the arms of uncle Sam.

actually i was born and raised in the united states. land of the free and home of the brave. don't blame the mexicans for pacs camp not getting the fights for him. obviously pac has realized this too.

Sir_Ivan
10-07-2004, 12:22 PM
i respect Pacquaio's talent. but i do think Morales can put up a good chance of winning against him. i dont think so with MAB, JMM and Larios. i saw Pacquiao's punches and how MAB had bad time taking it. Pac havent showed it to JMM because of his left hand injury shown after the fight. Larios doesnt even come close to either of the two. but with Morales, nobody had shown convincing proof that they can beat him. not even MAB. so, i'd like to see how good Pac realy is when he fights Morales. i just hope Arum doesnt do anything foolish again.

psychopath
10-07-2004, 07:07 PM
i respect Pacquaio's talent. but i do think Morales can put up a good chance of winning against him. i dont think so with MAB, JMM and Larios. i saw Pacquiao's punches and how MAB had bad time taking it. Pac havent showed it to JMM because of his left hand injury shown after the fight. Larios doesnt even come close to either of the two. but with Morales, nobody had shown convincing proof that they can beat him. not even MAB. so, i'd like to see how good Pac realy is when he fights Morales. i just hope Arum doesnt do anything foolish again.


I'm not sure if I got it right but there was an article before that says Arum is losing control of promoting the fights of these Mexican fighters, and as I understand his last promotion for Eric is this MAB/mORALLES fight on November.

Is there any further update on that news? Anybody?

m00ks
10-07-2004, 07:10 PM
actually i was born and raised in the united states. land of the free and home of the brave. don't blame the mexicans for pacs camp not getting the fights for him. obviously pac has realized this too.

I ain't blaming mexicans for anything. Your comment just didn't sit too right with me.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-08-2004, 12:45 AM
I'm not sure if I got it right but there was an article before that says Arum is losing control of promoting the fights of these Mexican fighters, and as I understand his last promotion for Eric is this MAB/mORALLES fight on November.

Is there any further update on that news? Anybody?

Erik will remain a top rank, Bob Arum fighter. It said in that article i believe u are referring to. It had to do with investigations, Erik happens to be the cleanest thing Arum has so thats why he did not get rid of him and signed to the "new" company.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
10-08-2004, 12:49 AM
I ain't blaming mexicans for anything. Your comment just didn't sit too right with me.

And therefore you made an assumption you took a shot at Mexicans. Your comment was just as insulting as what you took insult to.

m00ks
10-08-2004, 11:27 AM
And therefore you made an assumption you took a shot at Mexicans. Your comment was just as insulting as what you took insult to.

yep. eye for an eye. only people who have made comments like that about my race were mexicans so I was quick to assume.

kepsy
10-08-2004, 01:01 PM
they could all beat that clown. and as far as manny for prez?!?!? goes to show you what kinda country that is. the lord has truely blessed me.

Ok, I got a beef with this pappy. Do you even know Manny's qualifications for you to make these assumptions about our country? For all you know he could hold a degree like some boxers (I'm not sure either, I have not been in the Philippines for a while).
You guys had Ronald Reagan for pres once and I think he won because he was popular but not because he was the best qualified individual to be prez at the time. I can see why mooks took offense to your statement, I found it offensive as well.

DR. FREECLOUD
10-08-2004, 06:01 PM
Ok, I got a beef with this pappy. Do you even know Manny's qualifications for you to make these assumptions about our country? For all you know he could hold a degree like some boxers (I'm not sure either, I have not been in the Philippines for a while).
You guys had Ronald Reagan for pres once and I think he won because he was popular but not because he was the best qualified individual to be prez at the time. I can see why mooks took offense to your statement, I found it offensive as well.

ok look i mean no disrespect to anyone from filippines. i apologise to those that took this offensive. however kepsy, manny dropped out of high school at the age of fifteen and went to work in a bakery. so i seriously doubt that he has any degrees. he is a very good boxer without a doubt. but i seriously would not think he is presidential material.

kepsy
10-08-2004, 06:50 PM
Ok, fair enough I didn't know that he dropped out of high school, but so did Henry Ford. That's all i'm saying. I don't personally know him, but just because he's a high school dropout I don't assume he's got no street smarts. A lot of high school dropouts become successful businessmen. From what I heard he's opening businesses and obtaining real estates in the Philippines to fall back on once he's off boxing. I thought that was pretty smart.
We're cool, no apologies necessary. We're just voicing out opinions, right?

DR. FREECLOUD
10-08-2004, 08:07 PM
Ok, fair enough I didn't know that he dropped out of high school, but so did Henry Ford. That's all i'm saying. I don't personally know him, but just because he's a high school dropout I don't assume he's got no street smarts. A lot of high school dropouts become successful businessmen. From what I heard he's opening businesses and obtaining real estates in the Philippines to fall back on once he's off boxing. I thought that was pretty smart.
We're cool, no apologies necessary. We're just voicing out opinions, right?

you got it man. yes you can be very successful even though you drop out. but president would be stretching it. i think it is very smart of him to be a business man and make money off of his money. larry holmes did the same thing. alot of them do. perhaps because i am american and america would never in these days have a president that was a highschool drop out. abe lincoln was a middle school drop out. but that was then and this is now. well i'm out guys. have a good night.

phallus
10-08-2004, 10:47 PM
Usually the way things work these days is those who drop out of school do so because they have something better to move on to and the ones who graduate end up working for minimum wage at a fast food place...besides businessmen never learn much in school, to be a good businessman you've just got to be ruthless and opportunistic ( born not learned) , and the less education you have the richer you can become. An ignorant muther****er can become president, just look at G. W. Bush!

grayfist
10-08-2004, 11:30 PM
I'd rather have Manny President of the Philippines than have a Pappy Secretary of State or National Security Adviser of this country-- much less president-- and conduct foreign policy. I wouldn't even make him White House Security Guard, much less Homeland Security chief. The name alone smacks...

For years, Americans have been often labeled in many foreign shores as "Ugly", as in, "Ugly American". Pappy makes Americans deserve such a label.

From what I could see in this thread, Filipinos were talking about their own country and their prospects. Pappy's meddling was, at best, uncalled for. He should learn that if one doesn't have anything nice to say about any other person's country, one should just shut one's trap up! Any American who doesn't learn that does a terrible disservice to his fellow-Americans and mocks American heritage!

If there's only one American who thinks the way that Pappy does, that's one too many! :mad:

He feels blessed that he's in America?! He should! The likes of him MUST! It was obviously from a roll of the dice that he is!But I'm convinced that America has not been blessed with his presence! :p

Sorry fellas!!! :)

DR. FREECLOUD
10-08-2004, 11:47 PM
Usually the way things work these days is those who drop out of school do so because they have something better to move on to and the ones who graduate end up working for minimum wage at a fast food place...besides businessmen never learn much in school, to be a good businessman you've just got to be ruthless and opportunistic ( born not learned) , and the less education you have the richer you can become. An ignorant muther****er can become president, just look at G. W. Bush!

interesting that you feel that way. however bush did graduate from both highschool and college. and really graduating from highschool doesn't mean **** these days. its college you have to get through. and the statement you made about the less education you have the richer you can become cracks me up. btw, i have never seen you here before so a big welcome to you. i think you should take a look at the 10 richest people in the world and see what type of education they have.

1. bill gates=harvard university(although he did drop out, but for christs sakes he was at harvard)
2. warren buffett=University of Pennsylvania, BA/BS Columbia University, MS
3. karl albrecht=self made
4. Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud= Menlo College, BA/BS Syracuse University
5. paul allen=Washington State University(also a drop out but was one of the founders of microsoft with mr. #1)
6. alice l walton= Trinity University of San Antonio, Bachelor of Arts / Science
7. Helen Walton= University of Oklahoma, Bachelor of Arts / Science
8. jim walton=inherited
9. john t walton=inherited
10. rob walton= University of Arkansas, Bachelor of Arts / Science Columbia University, Doctor of Jurisprudence

as you can see you either have to be born into money or you have to get an education if you truely want to be rich.

DR. FREECLOUD
10-09-2004, 12:15 AM
I'd rather have Manny President of the Philippines than have a Pappy Secretary of State or National Security Adviser of this country-- much less president-- and conduct foreign policy. I wouldn't even make him White House Security Guard, much less Homeland Security chief. The name alone smacks...

For years, Americans have been often labeled in many foreign shores as "Ugly", as in, "Ugly American". Pappy makes Americans deserve such a label.

From what I could see in this thread, Filipinos were talking about their own country and their prospects. Pappy's meddling was, at best, uncalled for. He should learn that if one doesn't have anything nice to say about any other person's country, one should just shut one's trap up! Any American who doesn't learn that does a terrible disservice to his fellow-Americans and mocks American heritage!

If there's only one American who thinks the way that Pappy does, that's one too many! :mad:

He feels blessed that he's in America?! He should! The likes of him MUST! It was obviously from a roll of the dice that he is!But I'm convinced that America has not been blessed with his presence! :p

Sorry fellas!!! :)


actually there were no dice rolled at all. infact my heritage in this country goes further back than most of the people in this country. before any of the white men who came here were even a discharge from a 2 second pleasure running down thier mothers leg. don't even talk to me about heritage.

grayfist
10-09-2004, 01:35 AM
actually there were no dice rolled at all. infact my heritage in this country goes further back than most of the people in this country. before any of the white men who came here were even a discharge from a 2 second pleasure running down thier mothers leg. don't even talk to me about heritage.So you talk about heritage then: What is it that has been handed to you? The one that allows you to knock other people's country? Proud of that, are we? :confused:

I have such great respect for those who were here before any white man even had the faintest idea that this place existed. Am I now to think they handed down such a heritage? Is that what you're telling everyone reading this site?

Pardon me, but I have always assumed that, more than many other cultures, the native American culture gives great respect for all of nature's right to be here. People are part of nature-- regardless of what nation they belong.

You tell us: what do other descendants of those who were here before the white man have to say about heritage you seem to avow as part of theirs?

The heritage that I spoke of is colorless. It is borne out of mutual respect among men (yes, persons, if you will) of all nations. I erred in labeling it "Amerrican"; it is much, much more. It is a shared heritage of all of humanity. If it is not, it should be. And, it's way past the time that we help make it.

bigsmoothh
10-09-2004, 09:43 PM
wtf does heritage or presidential **** has to do with this? in mexico no matter how poor you are and then how rich you get theres a way you will become president. You will have to have your **** done and have alot more than streets smart to be in ANY type of election. not even jc. chavez could be pres., is pac runnin for pres. a joke or something. if not WHY would you guys pick him as a pres. when the guy cant even talk right?

psychopath
10-11-2004, 06:34 AM
wtf does heritage or presidential **** has to do with this? in mexico no matter how poor you are and then how rich you get theres a way you will become president. You will have to have your **** done and have alot more than streets smart to be in ANY type of election. not even jc. chavez could be pres., is pac runnin for pres. a joke or something. if not WHY would you guys pick him as a pres. when the guy cant even talk right?


That's a big joke . . . . Manny said he is seriously considering going into politics after his retirement from boxing at the age of 31 but he didn't specifically said he is running for presidency.

Realistically the highest post he can target is to be a town mayor. Nothing higher than that.