If the rematch occurs and tyzsu won again where would you place him as an all time great..undisputed jnr welterweight
undisputed welterweight..

Not as much as it should, he beat the champ in two rounds.

Juda is the one that needs Zoo, he was embarrassed and if he wants to ever be conisdered above Kt then he will have to make that fight happen and win of course.

Zoo would beat him again probably in a much tougher fight and he would have beaten Spinks inside of 4 or 5 rounds.

if kostya wasnt Russian do you think he would get more reconistion..

eh there is no telling but I think what makes him great besides his in ring boxing and toughness is his persona outside of teh ring he is very well spoken.

sweet dick is that you in the photo? clearly a prime heavyweight contender ;-) ;-)

It would probably put him top 30 all time and make him the #1 guy all time at 140.

it would raise him a little higher but not much.

I would say he is top 20 all time.

It depends who he beat for the titles.

A win over Judah again while collecting titles won't do much.

It depends who he beat for the titles.

A win over Judah again while collecting titles won't do much.


he'd probably have to beat dlh, too, at least. i don;t think KT will get the recognition he deserves, but i still really don't know how good he really is

he'd probably have to beat dlh, too, at least. i don;t think KT will get the recognition he deserves, but i still really don't know how good he really is

I think most of us dont know how good he really is. He needs bigger victories over livelier opponents. A win over Cotto would do a lot for him.

I think most of us dont know how good he really is. He needs bigger victories over livelier opponents. A win over Cotto would do a lot for him.
he's fought plenty of lively opponents. i rate diosbelys hurtado as one of his best.

he's fought plenty of lively opponents. i rate diosbelys hurtado as one of his best.
No he hasnt. Hurtado and Mitchell are nothig to brag about

Juda is the one that needs Zoo, he was embarrassed and if he wants to ever be conisdered above Kt then he will have to make that fight happen and win of course.

Zoo would beat him again probably in a much tougher fight and he would have beaten Spinks inside of 4 or 5 rounds.
I dont think Zoo can beat Spinks. He is too defensive. I dont think Zoo has the speed to catch him. He caught Zab and Mitchell but Spinks is much more defensive. He wont give Zoo any openings just like he didnt give Mayorga

I dont think Zoo can beat Spinks. He is too defensive. I dont think Zoo has the speed to catch him. He caught Zab and Mitchell but Spinks is much more defensive. He wont give Zoo any openings just like he didnt give Mayorga


Tszyu is much bigger puncher with better skills than Mayorga, he'd knock Spinks out

Tszyu is much bigger puncher with better skills than Mayorga, he'd knock Spinks out
He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him

He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him


Zab is smaller than Spinks, he reached him. Tszyu is stronger, i can see him cutting the ring down to size, Spinks isn't a big puncher, Tszyu could even take Spinks shots if he has to to get inside. Tszyu would do what Zab did, but it'll be uglier for Spinks

tszyu never has trouble landing on boxers with a superior reach. that's not gonna save spinks.

Zab is smaller than Spinks, he reached him. Tszyu is stronger, i can see him cutting the ring down to size, Spinks isn't a big puncher, Tszyu could even take Spinks shots if he has to to get inside. Tszyu would do what Zab did, but it'll be uglier for Spinks
Zoo is nowhere near as fast as Judah and Zab still took a long time to reach him. No way Zoo is fast enough to reach Spinks. Zoo wouldnt be able to cut the ring off on a defensive fighter. He did that with Zab and Mitchell because they were being offensive. Spinks is defensive and in retreat 95% of the time.

If he were to win the Undisputed title and then go on to beat Oscar and Mosley, you would have to put him as an all time great.

He is a tremendous fighter as it is.

Tyszu vs DLH would be a great fight, to very smart boxers, both have natural power in there hands, DLH is going to be more dangerous moving back down in weight. this would be the fight everyone wants to see.

Whats Judah done to start calling out DLH if these 2 fight DLH would kill him.

I can't see either guy beating Oscar at 147.

He is also much slower then Mayorga so it evens out. Spinks is bigger and Zoo would not reach him



I have to disagree that he is slower than Mayorga. I think he is quicker, plus he throws straight punches from many angles which makes him much more dangerous.

I have to disagree that he is slower than Mayorga. I think he is quicker, plus he throws straight punches from many angles which makes him much more dangerous.
He has a quicker release from point A to point B but overall he is slower then Mayorga and that is what counts against Spinks

He has a quicker release from point A to point B but overall he is slower then Mayorga and that is what counts against Spinks



Slow and straight beats quick and loopy every time, and that is all Mayorga throws. Cory made him look foolish because he saw every punch coming from a guy that wades in with no jab and is constantly swinging for the fences, not a great feat imo.

Slow and straight beats quick and loopy every time, and that is all Mayorga throws. Cory made him look foolish because he saw every punch coming from a guy that wades in with no jab and is constantly swinging for the fences, not a great feat imo.
But everything Zoo does is a great feat, right

well, you can't really point much that's wrong when you have a guy that's dropping #1 contenders in the first three rounds of the fight..with one punch

well, you can't really point much that's wrong when you have a guy that's dropping #1 contenders in the first three rounds of the fight..with one punch
His resume is overated. He has only 1 good win and that is against Judah

But everything Zoo does is a great feat, right





I didn't say that did I? All I'm saying is their respective speed to each other means ****all when you consider that they have completely different styles.

Kostya doesnt need to catch him, he just has to get close enough to clinch him and he will knock him out.

Kostya doesnt need to catch him, he just has to get close enough to clinch him and he will knock him out.
That depends on who the ref is. Some refs dont let you do anything in the clinch. Like the one Jones had against Ruiz

That depends on who the ref is. Some refs dont let you do anything in the clinch. Like the one Jones had against Ruiz
Jay Nady ironically was the ref in that fight!

Jay Nady ironically was the ref in that fight!
I thought so but I wasnt sure. People dont realize how huge that is. If he was the ref in the Floyd and Castillo fights then Floyd wouldve won both easily. It makes a differnce