Klitschko
J P T
1) 8/28 9/12 17/40
2) 7/26 8/12 15/38
3) 8/35 6/6 14/41
4) 10/24 17/24 27/48
5) 12/28 3/4 15/32
T) 45/141 43/58 88/199


TOS
J P T
1) 1/9 3/5 4/14
2) 5/11 3/7 8/18
3) 4/10 0/4 4/14
4) 4/8 6/21 10/29
5) 4/10 0/1 4/11
T) 18/48 12/38 30/86

not bad better then i thought

Why did it smash it all together like that when I had it spaced out?

And to think that Wlad looked tentative in there against this guy.

Klitschko
J P T
1) 8/28 9/12 17/40
2) 7/26 8/12 15/38
3) 8/35 6/6 14/41
4) 10/24 17/24 27/48
5) 12/28 3/4 15/32
T) 45/141 43/58 88/199


TOS
J P T
1) 1/9 3/5 4/14
2) 5/11 3/7 8/18
3) 4/10 0/4 4/14
4) 4/8 6/21 10/29
5) 4/10 0/1 4/11
T) 18/48 12/38 30/86

compubox stats? Done by humans that make errors...not very reliable

Who is "TOS"?

compubox stats? Done by humans that make errors...not very reliable


The fact that you need to break down the punch stat #'s, to show Klit was winning....should prove to you that he's going no where.
You're clinging to a tech. decision win over goddamn DAVARRYL WILLIAMSON !

Let it go !

The truth hurts. Keep on hating.

:rolleyes:

The truth hurts. Keep on hating.

You should address that to yourself.


"Hating" ?
Since when is calling a bum, a "bum"...hating ?

Wlad's a bum.

You should address that to yourself.


"Hating" ?
Since when is calling a bum, a "bum"...hating ?

Wlad's a bum.

Excellent question! I've made less than positive remarks about other fighters and their performances before but nobody ever accused me of being a hater for it except for a select few Klitschko fans.

Excellent question! I've made less than positive remarks about other fighters and their performances before but nobody ever accused me of being a hater for it except for a select few Klitschko fans.

Shameless fanboys.

Shameless fanboys.

It's just rediculous!! I can post what I think about a fighter and not hate him, and accusing us of that all the time because our point of views differ is so lame and it makes it very hard to take them serious anymore.

What is sad is that a topic about Wladimir cannot be made without someone saying he is a bum. What happened to intelligent discussion? Saying he is a bum is not an intelligent response. I am sorry it isn't. A bum is someone who Rahman or Toney fights as their tune up fights. That is a bum. A bum does not win the WBO championship belt and defend it successfully several times. I can't believe anyone also would defend someone who uses this "bum" word constantly. There is freedom of speech, yes, but there is also something called being honest and truthful and realistic. Wladimir is not a bum. This topic is about the punch count, yet they come in and say he is a bum. I don't like this. I think this is it for me. I am tired of this. I don't want to come here and read everyday a real bum who doesn't have a life and comes to a forum and calls Wladimir a bum.

What is sad is that a topic about Wladimir cannot be made without someone saying he is a bum. What happened to intelligent discussion? Saying he is a bum is not an intelligent response. I am sorry it isn't. A bum is someone who Rahman or Toney fights as their tune up fights. That is a bum. A bum does not win the WBO championship belt and defend it successfully several times. I can't believe anyone also would defend someone who uses this "bum" word constantly. There is freedom of speech, yes, but there is also something called being honest and truthful and realistic. Wladimir is not a bum. This topic is about the punch count, yet they come in and say he is a bum. I don't like this. I think this is it for me. I am tired of this. I don't want to come here and read everyday a real bum who doesn't have a life and comes to a forum and calls Wladimir a bum.

You are a bum.

What is sad is that a topic about Wladimir cannot be made without someone saying he is a bum. What happened to intelligent discussion? Saying he is a bum is not an intelligent response. I am sorry it isn't. A bum is someone who Rahman or Toney fights as their tune up fights. That is a bum. A bum does not win the WBO championship belt and defend it successfully several times. I can't believe anyone also would defend someone who uses this "bum" word constantly. There is freedom of speech, yes, but there is also something called being honest and truthful and realistic. Wladimir is not a bum. This topic is about the punch count, yet they come in and say he is a bum. I don't like this. I think this is it for me. I am tired of this. I don't want to come here and read everyday a real bum who doesn't have a life and comes to a forum and calls Wladimir a bum.


It a forum; people post opinions, I cant believe you'd let different opinion's just run you off. It makes no sense; it's not like anyone called YOU a bum. You dont think Wlad is one, some people do, it's just a difference of opinion, nothing to take personally I wouldnt think.
I'll never understand why you or Tatyana would get your feeling's hurt or whatever enough to stop posting cause nobody is always going to like what they read, but they dont run away

You've just been put on ignore list. Have a nice day. I hope everyone does what I do.

You've just been put on ignore list. Have a nice day. I hope everyone does what I do.


Ignoring someone who is correct is usually what the truly ignorant do.

It a forum; people post opinions, I cant believe you'd let different opinion's just run you off. It makes no sense; it's not like anyone called YOU a bum. You dont think Wlad is one, some people do, it's just a difference of opinion, nothing to take personally I wouldnt think.
I'll never understand why you or Tatyana would get your feeling's hurt or whatever enough to stop posting cause nobody is always going to like what they read, but they dont run away

Unbelievable..........

Unbelievable..........


Torino, your avatar has made me feel better. God Bless You!

Unbelievable..........

What? Did I lie? Was I mean or vicious? All I did was try and get her to stand up for herself and not let people run her off..how is that bad, O wise one??

Torino, your avatar has made me feel better. God Bless You!

Winter, please tell me is anything I just said to you was offensive in any way? I really want to know; it wasnt meant that way

Winter, please tell me is anything I just said to you was offensive in any way? I really want to know; it wasnt meant that way

No Tracylee, you did not say anything bad to me. You are good. I like you very much. You are my friend. Someone stole 10,000 points from me, and I am sad still. My friends who are very close to me gave me these points. To me they were like gifts. I actually started crying when I saw Sonny stole them. I am still sad. And then I see constantly calling Wladimir a bum, and it made me feel there are mean people here.

Klit fans should be happy that there are so many haters. At least that means that Klit brothers are very famous people. And like any famous people they are either hated or loved. They are like Bush. you either love him and saying that he is the best leader on the planet or hate him and say that he is the dumbest president of America ever.

What? Did I lie? Was I mean or vicious? All I did was try and get her to stand up for herself and not let people run her off..how is that bad, O wise one??Take your own advise

Klit fans should be happy that there are so many haters. At least that means that Klit brothers are very famous people. And like any famous people they are either hated or loved. They are like Bush. you either love him and saying that he is the best leader on the planet or hate him and say that he is the dumbest president of America ever.

I like these words. I hope the Yankees win now.

No Tracylee, you did not say anything bad to me. You are good. I like you very much. You are my friend. Someone stole 10,000 points from me, and I am sad still. My friends who are very close to me gave me these points. To me they were like gifts. I actually started crying when I saw Sonny stole them. I am still sad. And then I see constantly calling Wladimir a bum, and it made me feel there are mean people here.

Honey there are mean people here but there are also GOOD, nice people here too. If I hadnt just donated 1500 to "exciter21" ? I would be happy to donate you some of those points back if it would make you feel better. Let me build some more up and I'll send them to you.
I was just trying to get you to stay and not take it all so personal. If you let it get to you like that you wont keep posting and I dont know about you but I love it here and the main reason is cause of the nice people and the fact that I've learned alot about the sport through them.
Just hang around a while; it wont always be like this ;)

Take your own advise

I dont understand you..youre telling me now to stand up for myself and calling me an emotional female (more or less) on the other thread for doing just that??? I give up; some thing's are just not worth the effort.

I like these words. I hope the Yankees win now.

Winter, I just donated 1000 to you. It's not near as much as you lost, but the best I could do right now. By tomorrow I should be able to send a little more. Bank it before someone steals it ok

It a forum; people post opinions, I cant believe you'd let different opinion's just run you off. It makes no sense; it's not like anyone called YOU a bum. it's just a difference of opinion, nothing to take personally I wouldnt think.
I'll never understand why you or Tatyana would get your feeling's hurt or whatever enough to stop posting cause nobody is always going to like what they read.

you didn't run away, you overreacted. Like I said, Take your own advise.

you didn't run away, you overreacted. Like I said, Take your own advise.

I dont know who you think you are to tell me how to behave when you could improve yourself. Just you dont worry about how I react ok; its nothing to you. Concentrate on yourself before judging me; I'm done with your nonsense

Honey there are mean people here but there are also GOOD, nice people here too. If I hadnt just donated 1500 to "exciter21" ? I would be happy to donate you some of those points back if it would make you feel better. Let me build some more up and I'll send them to you.
I was just trying to get you to stay and not take it all so personal. If you let it get to you like that you wont keep posting and I dont know about you but I love it here and the main reason is cause of the nice people and the fact that I've learned alot about the sport through them.
Just hang around a while; it wont always be like this ;)

Tracylee, you are very nice. Thank you for wanting to give me points. I gave the final 2000 I had to exciter too. I felt so sorry for him. It is not points I want. It is the points from these friends I have who I like so much, I want the points they gave me. They were like presents they gave me. Once Sonny took them, they are gone forever, even if he gave 10,000 back to me, it doesn't feel the same. It probably is very silly to you, but I cherished those points. They were little presents to me, and I loved them.

Tracylee, you are very nice. Thank you for wanting to give me points. I gave the final 2000 I had to exciter too. I felt so sorry for him. It is not points I want. It is the points from these friends I have who I like so much, I want the points they gave me. They were like presents they gave me. Once Sonny took them, they are gone forever, even if he gave 10,000 back to me, it doesn't feel the same. It probably is very silly to you, but I cherished those points. They were little presents to me, and I loved them.

Well, I remember donating two times to you in the past; so if you want consider the 1000 I just gave you my way of replacing what I had already given you, alright? :)

I dont know who you think you are to tell me how to behave when you could improve yourself. Just you dont worry about how I react ok; its nothing to you. Concentrate on yourself before judging me; I'm done with your nonsense
My conscience, for one, is clear.

My conscience, for one, is clear.

Good for you; I'm so glad to hear it. I'm done :rolleyes:

So I guess that everyone below Wladimir are also bums.

World Heavyweight Ratings


Name Age Points Debut W-L-D » Last 6 »
1 Vitali Klitschko 33 2,043 1996 34-2-0

2 James Toney 36 1,999 1988 68-4-2

3 Joe Mesi 30 1,995 1997 29-0-0

4 Chris Byrd 34 1,983 1993 37-2-1

5 Wladimir Klitschko 28 1,961 1996 43-3-0

The truth hurts. Keep on hating.

you sound like the great1

you sound like the great1

I am trying to, glad you noticed.

Ignoring someone who is correct is usually what the truly ignorant do.

youve been ignored bum

that means she cant read what you say anymore

so in my opinion you should stop talking to her because youre really talking to no one and just spamming the board

Klitschko
J P T
1) 8/28 9/12 17/40
2) 7/26 8/12 15/38
3) 8/35 6/6 14/41
4) 10/24 17/24 27/48
5) 12/28 3/4 15/32
T) 45/141 43/58 88/199


TOS
J P T
1) 1/9 3/5 4/14
2) 5/11 3/7 8/18
3) 4/10 0/4 4/14
4) 4/8 6/21 10/29
5) 4/10 0/1 4/11
T) 18/48 12/38 30/86

Jim Lampley would have called that a wipeout!

TOS did the equivalent of barely showing up!

and he claimed he won and deserves a rematch

shame on you TOS

Jim Lampley would have called that a wipeout!

TOS did the equivalent of barely showing up!

and he claimed he won and deserves a rematch

shame on you TOS

Exactly. Well spoken techn9ne.

youve been ignored bum

that means she cant read what you say anymore

so in my opinion you should stop talking to her because youre really talking to no one and just spamming the board

It was for everyone.

Just shut your trap, you useless cheerleader.

No Tracylee, you did not say anything bad to me. You are good. I like you very much. You are my friend. Someone stole 10,000 points from me, and I am sad still. My friends who are very close to me gave me these points. To me they were like gifts. I actually started crying when I saw Sonny stole them. I am still sad. And then I see constantly calling Wladimir a bum, and it made me feel there are mean people here.

i gave you some points baby girl

cheer up!

Viva Wlad!

It was for everyone.

Just shut your trap, you useless cheerleader.

youre probably the type of guy that claims john kerry was in cambodia on christmas eve 1968 huh?

shame on you!

youre probably the type of guy that claims john kerry was in cambodia on christmas eve 1968 huh?

shame on you!

Yeah....you got me, genius. How old are you ?

21 and a half

how bout you?

some fossil who just figured out how to use that thing your son bought you in the living room called a computer?

and you though you would try to justify your meaningless, pathetic existence by talking **** to some true boxing fans on some message board

heck you probably havent even stepped into the ring ever

laughable man ... laughable

Thank you techn9ne.

so whats next for Wald?

21 and a half

how bout you?

some fossil who just figured out how to use that thing your son bought you in the living room called a computer?

and you though you would try to justify your meaningless, pathetic existence by talking **** to some true boxing fans on some message board

heck you probably havent even stepped into the ring ever

laughable man ... laughable

You are not a true boxing fan.... I've seen your other posts.
They absolutely suck.
You're a big supporter of Wlad Klit, & you're blind to his limitations.
Once he's finally eliminated from the public eye (coming soon), you will cease to pay attention to the sport.
If you want to see what I know about the sport....check out my posts.

so whats next for Wald?

Most likely Whitaker.

Most likely Whitaker.
who in hear thinks that Chris Byrd can KO Wald? Wald went down in his last fight,(off balance somewhat)

Byrd got violated by Wlad the first time they fought, both have lost a step, but Wlad is still quick, byrd has slowed and would recieve a beating reminiscent of when my 9 year old brother purposely spilled kool aid on my white carpet

who in hear thinks that Chris Byrd can KO Wald? Wald went down in his last fight,(off balance somewhat)

Wlad would still destroy Byrd.

What is sad is that a topic about Wladimir cannot be made without someone saying he is a bum. What happened to intelligent discussion? Saying he is a bum is not an intelligent response. I am sorry it isn't. A bum is someone who Rahman or Toney fights as their tune up fights. That is a bum. A bum does not win the WBO championship belt and defend it successfully several times. I can't believe anyone also would defend someone who uses this "bum" word constantly. There is freedom of speech, yes, but there is also something called being honest and truthful and realistic. Wladimir is not a bum. This topic is about the punch count, yet they come in and say he is a bum. I don't like this. I think this is it for me. I am tired of this. I don't want to come here and read everyday a real bum who doesn't have a life and comes to a forum and calls Wladimir a bum.

There is rarely intelligent discussion going on about Wlad because everyone who starts a Wlad thread is usually wanting to lead a hero-worship service.

There are too many kids here who are the argue on the same level as the 250 lb girls who go on Jerry Springer wearing nothing but a thong and then yell out to the crowd "You're just jealous!"

good anaology!

Wlad by KO rd 1!

Ok then, you're a bum lol

But I don't hate you lol

Sorry, I saw a post somewhere about calling a bum a bum, and whoever that was that posted that is a bum, and probably never has boxed, has no idea what it's like to box, and cetainly has no right to call Wlad a bum. That's what pisses me off, there are actually some posters here with some knowledge of boxing, but still choose to be biased in their posts in order to get a rise out of Klit fans. I think Toney is nowhere as good as he would have us believe, but I won't deny his obvious accomplishments at the lower weight classes, and can only wait to see if he'll ever fight someone worth fighting.