Dougie Fischer from Max Boxing says that Valero would KO Pac. He said because Pac has took his whole life to get to 130 but he is faster and more aggresive then Valero. He said that Valero is more disciplined and the better fighter and can throw punches from alot of different angles. He said there are guys in camp that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt or KO and Valero KO's them same guys. I fine this very intresting because he picks Valero and the guy hasnt even really faced anyone. He is always bragging on the kid though so I dont know if I can really believe him or not. He also said that Valero has dominated alot of the top boxers in sparring but I remember him one day talking about how he went to the gym and saw 2 brothers giving Valero all that he could handle and then he started to slow down on how good this kid was but who knows

Dougie Fischer from Max Boxing says that Valero would KO Pac. He said because Pac has took his whole life to get to 130 but he is faster and more aggresive then Valero. He said that Valero is more disciplined and the better fighter and can throw punches from alot of different angles. He said there are guys in camp that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt or KO and Valero KO's them same guys. I fine this very intresting because he picks Valero and the guy hasnt even really faced anyone. He is always bragging on the kid though so I dont know if I can really believe him or not. He also said that Valero has dominated alot of the top boxers in sparring but I remember him one day talking about how he went to the gym and saw 2 brothers giving Valero all that he could handle and then he started to slow down on how good this kid was but who knows

I too found his Valero obsession a little weird. He seemed good but not so good as to warrant his doe eyed fascination. And his prediction of KOing Pacman is ridiculous. Especially when from what I hear coming out of Pacuiao's training camps he is knocking out heavyweights. His next sparring partners are Silver Back Gorrillas. He then plans to move on to King Kong and Godzilla.

if this dude valero never gets cleared to fight again, he'll be the biggest enigma of this generation.

i agree though, dougie's apparently from L.A. and so hes exposed to valero all day everyday but i've never seen doug sing anyones praises like he does this dude.

the fact that he's had about 12 fights and won all of 'um by KO in the first round prolly reinforces his obsession for valero.

Valero vs Pacman would be a very good fight, i'm unsure who would win though, my instant thought is Manny Pac but i'll have to think about it.

Although Valero's 12-0 record with all first round knockouts is impressive I think Pac Man would win the fight. He has more experience, He's been active, and has obviously fought the better opposition. Hopefully valero can get cleared to fight so some day we can see a fight like this.

Although Valero's 12-0 record with all first round knockouts is impressive I think Pac Man would win the fight. He has more experience, He's been active, and has obviously fought the better opposition. Hopefully valero can get cleared to fight so some day we can see a fight like this.

YEa. Does anyone even go to that website anymore to get real news from a fan's POV?

I too found his Valero obsession a little weird. He seemed good but not so good as to warrant his doe eyed fascination. And his prediction of KOing Pacman is ridiculous. Especially when from what I hear coming out of Pacuiao's training camps he is knocking out heavyweights. His next sparring partners are Silver Back Gorrillas. He then plans to move on to King Kong and Godzilla.
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Dougie Fischer from Max Boxing says that Valero would KO Pac. He said because Pac has took his whole life to get to 130 but he is faster and more aggresive then Valero. He said that Valero is more disciplined and the better fighter and can throw punches from alot of different angles. He said there are guys in camp that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt or KO and Valero KO's them same guys. I fine this very intresting because he picks Valero and the guy hasnt even really faced anyone. He is always bragging on the kid though so I dont know if I can really believe him or not. He also said that Valero has dominated alot of the top boxers in sparring but I remember him one day talking about how he went to the gym and saw 2 brothers giving Valero all that he could handle and then he started to slow down on how good this kid was but who knows
bring it on Valero Will go down in first round oh yeah Valero cant handle the power of pacman

Dougie Fischer from Max Boxing says that Valero would KO Pac. He said because Pac has took his whole life to get to 130 but he is faster and more aggresive then Valero. He said that Valero is more disciplined and the better fighter and can throw punches from alot of different angles. He said there are guys in camp that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt or KO and Valero KO's them same guys. I fine this very intresting because he picks Valero and the guy hasnt even really faced anyone. He is always bragging on the kid though so I dont know if I can really believe him or not. He also said that Valero has dominated alot of the top boxers in sparring but I remember him one day talking about how he went to the gym and saw 2 brothers giving Valero all that he could handle and then he started to slow down on how good this kid was but who knows
I think this valero guy should fight first the likes of MAB or EM before he gets a crack at Pacman!!!

Its dumb, you have a prospect who is only 12-0 and your saying that he'll knock out a veteran and champ of 2 div (3 with ring). Makes me question Ficher's credability.

Its dumb, you have a prospect who is only 12-0 and your saying that he'll knock out a veteran and champ of 2 div (3 with ring). Makes me question Ficher's credability.

Yea, does valero even have any fan base? other than that one guy from that one boxingwebsite?
at least put his ass on solo boxeo against JCC, Jr. or something to prove hisself.

I too found his Valero obsession a little weird. He seemed good but not so good as to warrant his doe eyed fascination. And his prediction of KOing Pacman is ridiculous. Especially when from what I hear coming out of Pacuiao's training camps he is knocking out heavyweights. His next sparring partners are Silver Back Gorrillas. He then plans to move on to King Kong and Godzilla.

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You guys say that it is dumb and he's a prospect but this guy has been dominant against good fighters in sparring. They said he was kicking Juan Lazcano's ass and this was before the Castillo fight

You guys say that it is dumb and he's a prospect but this guy has been dominant against good fighters in sparring. They said he was kicking Juan Lazcano's ass and this was before the Castillo fight

against good fighters sparring.

Your talking bout 12 rounds of elite boxing. He's a prospect nothing more.

yo dont nock the guy so early come on...remember how everyone talked about tyson when he had 12 wins (everyone said he only had strenght and that was it) well true but he had speed also and a lot else to beat boxers for years to come. But i must agree lets the kid get to 20wins before u say something like he would ko pac,this is and when for example (cotto) fans make a fighter seem better then he is for beating nobody's...one thing is for sure..this kid looks like he has a bright future...and lets not forget that Pac has a big challange ahead of him in March and his chin and body will be tested

yo dont nock the guy so early come on...remember how everyone talked about tyson when he had 12 wins (everyone said he only had strenght and that was it) well true but he had speed also and a lot else to beat boxers for years to come. But i must agree lets the kid get to 20wins before u say something like he would ko pac,this is and when for example (cotto) fans make a fighter seem better then he is for beating nobody's...one thing is for sure..this kid looks like he has a bright future...and lets not forget that Pac has a big challange ahead of him in March and his chin and body will be tested
True but this is also 130. We dont know how Pac will look at 130. If this guy has seen both up close and in sparring, you might have to take a look at what he says. He said he got the same feeling watching this kid as he did with a young Mayweather. He bragged on this kid and he went out and delivered. 12 fights, 12 first round KO's is great for anyone. If you yourself watched alot of fighters coming up and you said this guy is one of the best I ever saw and then you saw him beat up current champs in sparring and then KO his first 12 in the first round then you might would think differntly about Pac. Pac would get beat by Lazcano. You guys are missing the point. He said that he has seen both of them spar with the same big 140 pounders and Valero KO's the guys that Pac dominates but cant seriously hurt. He is too big for Pac

let he prove himself come march 19... if barrera was able to do it, i think manny can...

let he prove himself come march 19... if barrera was able to do it, i think manny can...
That still wont change anything as far as this debate goes because he probally thinks that Valero would KO Morales

Its dumb, you have a prospect who is only 12-0 and your saying that he'll knock out a veteran and champ of 2 div (3 with ring). Makes me question Ficher's credability.
For real!! No fighter can be that good. I mean, Doug's saying **** like Valero would KO Pacquiao, Barrera AND Morales. Those are ****ing bold statements.

Valero wont be a cake walk for anyone but needs time to grow as a fighter...but i doubt valero will ever fight any f these fighter since he is still pretty new and not known very well...but this guy will be good one day and have a chance to prove himself
-And yes...manny has to prove himself come march...aww its gonna be great

manny is not knocking out heavy's!! give me a ****ing break!!!