View Full Version : ZAB JUDAH Really more mature or still a punk


theironone
02-06-2005, 12:40 PM
With Judah's attitude and remarks of late, has he found the maturity and focus that's been needed from him all this time or is it all bull****, could it be a PR move to maybe try to get more fans?

His attitude after the zoo fights speaks for itself - but i can remember several times he's given alot of BS, one fight in particular he chinned someone when they were down (could of been lucky not to get DQ'd) and explained his actions as 'he got dealt with brooklyn style'.

Obviously lately he's shown more respect and has seeminly grown up alot, but could it be a smoke screen, is just cos he happens to like spinks or is he still a punk at heart.

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 12:47 PM
With Judah's attitude and remarks of late, has he found the maturity and focus that's been needed from him all this time or is it all bull****, could it be a PR move to maybe try to get more fans?

His attitude after the zoo fights speaks for itself - but i can remember several times he's given alot of BS, one fight in particular he chinned someone when they were down (could of been lucky not to get DQ'd) and explained his actions as 'he got dealt with brooklyn style'.

Obviously lately he's shown more respect and has seeminly grown up alot, but could it be a smoke screen, is just cos he happens to like spinks or is he still a punk at heart.


When he is at the bottom, he seems more focused and determined and respectful.

Once he conquers and gets on top his "I cant be touched" attitude kicks back in, I wont be taking any recent shots at Judah until he defends his title and how he looks...As long as he isnt facing a Wayne Martell or anything like that.

If any of you guys who read this dont know, Zab Judah says he already has to fight his IBF mandatory and as it stands right now the number 1 ranked contender for the IBF belt

Cosme Rivera is number 1 with Judah as 3 (now champion) and Number 2 vacant. Spinks will get moved to the 2nd or 3rd spot and Cosme stays at 1 to challenge Judah.

Who the hell is Cosme Rivera?

I seriously think Judah will end up getting stripped of one of his belts.

dansweeney
02-06-2005, 12:50 PM
When he is at the bottom, he seems more focused and determined and respectful.

Once he conquers and gets on top his "I cant be touched" attitude kicks back in, I wont be taking any recent shots at Judah until he defends his title and how he looks...As long as he isnt facing a Wayne Martell or anything like that.

If any of you guys who read this dont know, Zab Judah says he already has to fight his IBF mandatory and as it stands right now the number 1 ranked contender for the IBF belt

Cosme Rivera is number 1 with Judah as 3 (now champion) and Number 2 vacant. Spinks will get moved to the 2nd or 3rd spot and Cosme stays at 1 to challenge Judah.

Who the hell is Cosme Rivera?

I seriously think Judah will end up getting stripped of one of his belts.

i want to see him fight only top guys, no bums like cosme rivera, that's rediculous

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 12:55 PM
i want to see him fight only top guys, no bums like cosme rivera, that's rediculous


Which is why a rubber match makes the most sense and dollars. Since Judah is on top and I make Spinks number 1 contender at 147, I say why not? De la hoya and the other top guys are all wrapped up in fights or wont be fighting until September so throw this fight for a summer date, easily be done.

m00ks
02-06-2005, 01:09 PM
Waaay different Zab that we saw. Focused, determined and disciplined. He still has his ego as it is part of his personality but his approach to this fight and the way he executed was nothing short of proffesional and he showed true signs of growth. I agree with spinx, he's humbled when hes at the bottom but I expect nothing else of ego once he's dominating on top.

onikami
02-06-2005, 01:35 PM
His comments before and after his victory showed/show total lack of respect for his opponant. How arrogant. I dont expect him to last up their on the summit of Everest very long. Lets hope not, anyway.

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 01:38 PM
His comments before and after his victory showed/show total lack of respect for his opponant. How arrogant. I dont expect him to last up their on the summit of Everest very long. Lets hope not, anyway.


What the hell are you talking about?

onikami
02-06-2005, 02:16 PM
What the hell are you talking about?

During the pre-match conference he said of his opponant. "I am going to finish him forever.’’

Very rude and arrogant. You will come a tumbling down Mr. Judah. Enjoy the short stay at the five star hotel, it'll all end very soon.

tino
02-06-2005, 02:39 PM
A Punk .

scramwarrior
02-06-2005, 02:39 PM
Waaay different Zab that we saw. Focused, determined and disciplined. He still has his ego as it is part of his personality but his approach to this fight and the way he executed was nothing short of proffesional and he showed true signs of growth. I agree with spinx, he's humbled when hes at the bottom but I expect nothing else of ego once he's dominating on top.
I give Judah congrats on his victory against Spinks, but I cannot give him credit for being focused and professional, etc. This is how he's supposed to act. In fact, most fighters with any real dedication are focused and professional. This does not win any merit points for Judah. It's kinda like when you praise an alcoholic for not taking a sip of beer on New Year's Eve.

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 03:04 PM
During the pre-match conference he said of his opponant. "I am going to finish him forever.’’

Very rude and arrogant. You will come a tumbling down Mr. Judah. Enjoy the short stay at the five star hotel, it'll all end very soon.


Perhaps it was hype to promote, as if it needed it. 20,000+ paid is quit the achievment that surpasses the name DLH in attendance.

Tumbling down he will, Judah can focus to stay on top long enough its only when he is coming up that he shows promise.

Judah is his own defeat and nothing has changed.

DiegoFuego
02-06-2005, 03:19 PM
He is the welterweight king, and I hope he keeps his ****y attitude up. As long as he is focused, he is unbeatable and can be as ****y as he wants.

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 03:38 PM
He is the welterweight king, and I hope he keeps his ****y attitude up. As long as he is focused, he is unbeatable and can be as ****y as he wants.


His ****y attitude is what gets him nowhere, the focus he showed during the course of the promotion and leading up to the fight is how he needs to be for EVERY fight, you cant get on top and then act like a fool and expect people to pay respect to you.

Rcar
02-06-2005, 03:56 PM
C'mon, Judahs a good boxer, hes been robbed in the past based on his attitude, but how many of your favorite boxers are perfect people. I like Zab I hope to see him grow as a fighter I don't really care if hes a dick, take it to the ring.

spinksjinx
02-06-2005, 04:08 PM
C'mon, Judahs a good boxer, hes been robbed in the past based on his attitude, but how many of your favorite boxers are perfect people. I like Zab I hope to see him grow as a fighter I don't really care if hes a dick, take it to the ring.


His imperfection are his downfall, he needs to correct his mistakes. You might like his ****y attitude and think its cute but him acting like a dick is what makes him come up short once he is ALREADY on top, and then he falls back down.

Rcar
02-06-2005, 04:19 PM
His imperfection are his downfall, he needs to correct his mistakes. You might like his ****y attitude and think its cute but him acting like a dick is what makes him come up short once he is ALREADY on top, and then he falls back down.

I don't like his ****y attitude at all, my point was if he goes in the ring to fight for real and leave that other crap out he would have a better shot. I don't watch the press conferences..... I watch the fights.

davico
02-06-2005, 04:29 PM
C'mon, Judahs a good boxer, hes been robbed in the past based on his attitude, but how many of your favorite boxers are perfect people. I like Zab I hope to see him grow as a fighter I don't really care if hes a dick, take it to the ring.
Who did he get robbed against? And please don't say Spinks in the first fight or Kostya!