View Full Version : My collection of old boxing mags

The Noose
05-11-2006, 11:20 AM
I recently was given some amazing old old boxing magazines that date back to the 1960's.
There are lots of great articles, mainly on Ali, Liston, Patterson Robinson etc.

Its interesting to look at the rankings for each year, and read how the critics thought Clay would get his ass kicked by Liston, etc.

ANYWAY, i thought i might scan in some of those pages, and post them here.

It makes for some very intersting reading regarding the debates on how Liston was over or underrated etc.
To see what people thought at the time.

So, is anyone interested?

Southpaw Stinger
05-11-2006, 11:24 AM
Very interested man, please scan and post em if you don't mind. We'll hit you with some good K for your efforts!

Kid Achilles
05-11-2006, 11:29 AM
I think everyone here would love to see those articles.

The Noose
05-11-2006, 06:40 PM
Cool. Il definatly post them. As long as a few people are interested.
Obviously im not going to type in the articles. Il have to try scanning them in and posting them to see how clear the print is.

05-11-2006, 06:43 PM
cool, scan away

05-11-2006, 07:46 PM
Its interesting to look at the rankings for each year, and read how the critics thought Clay would get his ass kicked by Liston, etc.======

** Young Clay did not inspire much confidence. Just goes to show you how suddenly the tables can turn in life.

The Noose
05-12-2006, 01:33 AM
Just testing.

Not ****ing bad aye!


05-12-2006, 01:57 AM
thank you man! good k on the way

does anyone notice how the quality of writing got way worse than in this article ?

The Noose
05-12-2006, 02:39 AM
thank you man! good k on the way

does anyone notice how the quality of writing got way worse than in this article ?

Wel, that was just a taster.
I got a whole suitcase full of old magazines.

05-12-2006, 03:01 AM
Just testing.

Not ****ing bad aye!


Keep em coming bobby!!!!

05-12-2006, 03:05 AM
here's an old article in pacland poste by art garcia...

Reported in The Ottawa Journal, February 19, 1964

MIAMI BEACH (UPI) -- Britain's bush-haired Beatles met boxing's Baron of Bray, Cassius Clay, Tuesday and it ended up in clowning, off-key pandemonium.

Boxing and singing probably were set back 100 years when Gaseous Cassius teamed up with the rock n' roll entertainers to render this refrain, made up on the spot by Clay:

"When Liston reads about the Beatles visiting me, he'll get so mad I'll knock him out in three."

Clay, the young fighter who puts all his bragging on the line next Tuesday night when he meets champion Sonny Liston for the heavyweight title, clowned around with the four mop-haired singers during a break in training at the Fifth Street gym.

"Man, you guys are the greatest. The whole world is shook up about you," said Clay, apparently a longtime Beatle fan.

The raucous meeting represented two firsts:

Clay admitted that someone other than himself is "great," for the first time, and he predicted that he will flatten Liston in three rounds, even though the brash 22-year-old contender is a 6-1 underdog at the moment.

The Beatles, dressed in flashy sport shirts, snow-white vests and beach shoes, enjoyed the meeting as much as Clay.

They entered the training ring with a "yeah, yeah, yeah" and pretended to attack Clay en masse.


Clay shouted "no, no, no" and feigned horror.




It was about what you'd expect from Clay - Beatle meeting: noise, poems and more noise.

Photographers had a field day during the clowning, which didn't end until trainer Angelo Dundee reminded Clay that he had a date in exactly one week.


Before they left, Clay lifted Beatle drummer Ringo Starr two feet off the floor, tossed him up and wished him good luck.
The other three Beatles, George Harrison, John Lennon and Paul McCartney, watched laughing.

For the Beatles, the confrontation with Clay was the kickoff of a leisurely day on the beach. They have no more appearances to make and are vacationing until Friday when they return to London.

For Clay, it was a respite from the serious business of hard training. Loudmouth or not, Clay apparently realizes what he is here for. He snapped back into the routine as soon as the Beatles left.

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05-12-2006, 03:24 AM
this was against Cleveland Williams @ Houston Astrodome, November 14, 1966
authograph version:

05-12-2006, 03:25 AM
40 Years Ago: He Shook Up The World

26.02.04 - By Frank Lotierzo: This Wednesday marks the 40th anniversary that a 7-1 underdog named Cassius Clay upset World Heavyweight Champion Sonny Liston in Miami Beach Florida. *You're 40 years old if a day, and don't belong in the ring with Cassius Clay* The title changed hands when Liston refused to get up off his stool for the seventh round, claiming and injured left shoulder. This was no doubt the introduction and coming out party for the man who changed Boxing and Sports forever. Who knew at the time of Clay's upset over Liston that he would go onto become one of the most recognized people in the history of the world?

On Tuesday night February 25th 1964, Clay was viewed as nothing more than a colorful glib kid who won a Gold Medal in the 1960 Rome Olympics as a light heavyweight. Clay was known for his fast hands and feet, and his unorthodox way of pulling back and away from punches. *If you'd like to lose your money, be a fool and bet on Sonny* Although his unique skill was obvious too all, no one in the Boxing Universe thought he was anything special. The thought that he could beat Liston was non existent.

In the Month's and Week's leading up to the Liston-Clay bout, many writer's and Boxing historian's were comparing Liston to his good pal Joe Louis. In fact it was even thought by some that Liston was better than Louis and possibly the greatest heavyweight champ of all time. *I'm A bad man* Back in the early 60's, Liston was the most feared fighter on the planet. Sonny was the baddest man on the planet years before Jimmy Kirkpatrick met Mike Tyson's mother. The only difference was Sonny truly believed it.

Sonny Liston had been denied a title shot for years before he finally got it in September of 1962. Cus D'Amato, the manager and trainer of Heavyweight Champ Floyd Patterson sat on the title for more than four years. Cus knew Patterson had nothing for Liston. *I shook up he world, I shook up the World* While Cus played keep away, Liston demolished all the top contenders that the Patterson-D'Amato team avoided. After years of being accused of being afraid of Liston, Patterson went against the wishes of Cus and accepted a fight with him. On the night of September 25th 1962, Patterson defended the title against Liston. Two minutes after the bell for round one, Liston was the new undisputed champ.

By mid summer of 1963, Sonny Liston and Cassius Clay were on a collision course. In June Clay traveled to London to face British Champ Henry Cooper. Clay TKO'd Cooper in five rounds. However he was dropped by a beautiful Cooper left hook at the end of the fourth round, for the second time in his career. Clay beat the count but was in serious trouble as he went back to his corner. Clay's cunning trainer Angelo Dundee jacked around with his glove slightly delaying the start of the fifth round. Clay came out clear headed for the fifth round and reopened a cut over Cooper's eye causing the fight to be stopped. *To Prove I'm Great, he must go in eight*

One month later in July, Liston made the first defense of his title against the man he took it from, Floyd Patterson. The rematch turned out to be a rerun, and Liston TKO'd Patterson again in the first round paving the way for the Liston-Clay heavyweight title bout.

On November 6th 1963, Liston signed to defend his heavyweight title against the "Louisville Lip" better known as Cassius Clay. The fight was set for February 25th 1964 in Miami. Heading into their fight, Liston had no respect for Clay and thought he was nothing but a loudmouth with no heart. Liston truly believed that Clay would fold like a two-dollar suit in the big-spot. *If he wanna go to Heaven, I'll get'em in Seven*

Liston was feared, could punch with either hand, and was never off his feet. His only defeat was to Marty Marshall, a decision loss in his ninth fight when he suffered a broken jaw and lost a decision. Liston would defeat Marshall twice in subsequent fights before winning the title from Patterson. Sonny had a reach that measured between 82-84 inches. On top of that he was thought to have the strongest and best jab in heavyweight history. Something many still believe. Although Clay's jab was faster than Liston's, no one questioned whose' was better because it was a no brainer in favor of Liston.

Prior to fighting Liston, Clay had been down twice and was almost stopped by Cooper in his last fight. Cooper was a ranked contender when he fought Clay, but he was a lifetime behind Liston as a fighter. Most had predicted that Clay wouldn't make it out of the first round with Liston. In fact Liston himself led the charge o pinning that Clay won't make it out of the first round. *He'll be in a worse a fix if I cut it to Six* Most felt Clay wasn't as good or as experienced as Patterson. If Patterson can't make it past the first round with Liston, how can this kid with less than 20 fights do any better?

On the morning of February 25th, Liston and Clay weighed in at the Miami Beach Convention Center. When Liston came into's Clay's view, Clay went crazy taunting and shouting what he was going to do to him that night in the ring. Liston just glared back at Clay holding up two fingers signaling Clay's demise in the second round. Clay's conduct was so outrageous that he was fined 2500$. *If he keeps talkin Jive, I'll end it in five* The fight was almost called off when Clay's blood pressure was taken and it was off the charts. Many thought Clay was petrified of Liston and wanted out of the fight. Later when his blood pressure was taken it was normal and the fight was on.

On fight night when Liston and Clay were standing at ring center during the referee's instructions, Clay glared back at Liston and looked down at him. Something that was a new experience for Sonny. Once the bell rang for round one and the fight started, Clay's speed and boxing ability stood out. *If he keeps talkin like Moore, he'll go in Four* Over the first three rounds Clay had is way with Liston beating him to the punch and cutting him up. During the fifth round Clay was having trouble with his eyes and was blinking. Somehow the monsil solution that was used on Liston's cuts mysteriously got onto his gloves which then got into Clay's eyes. This was something other Liston opponents also claimed.

Once Clay's eye's cleared up, it was target practice. At the end of the sixth round, Liston went slowly back to his corner a beaten fighter. Liston told his trainer Willie Reddish that he couldn't lift his left arm and couldn't continue. When it was apparent Liston was done for the night, referee Barney Felix went over to Clay's corner and raised his hand signaling the new champ, Cassius Clay. *Yes the crowd did not dream when they put down their money, that they would see a total eclipse of the Sonny*

The next day Clay announced that he was a member of the Nation of Islam, and wanted to be referred to as Cassius X. Two weeks later Elijah Muhammad would re-name him Muhammad Ali. Down the road there would be a rematch with Liston, Vietnam, a fight with the Government, an exile, a comeback, Frazier, and Foreman among others. There would also be Parkinson's disease and the lighting of the Olympic Torch to open the 1996 Olympic Games. *The crowd is getting Frantic, but our Radar stations have picked him up, he is somewhere over the Atlantic* He would come full circle from being one of the most hated men on the planet, to being one of the most loved. February 25th 1964 was the start of it all. It was the night that Clay upset Liston and Shook up the World!!

05-12-2006, 03:36 AM
Where the heck are the mag scans of BP????





05-12-2006, 03:41 AM