http://myhero.com/images/Sports/Marciano/g1_u5989_rocky_marciano.jpg rocky marciano

or

http://www.carroll-ohio.com/JamesJJeffries-stamp.jpeg james jeffries

who wins? 15 rounds.

I think Marciano gets the decision after having landed the more accurate and telling blows at the end of fifteen grueling rounds.

Jeffries would probably push Marciano around a bit and dominate the clinches, but Marciano would land the more telling blows and Jeffries would suffer later on. Since both guys can take punishment I don't think there will be a KO.

Prime vs Prime - Marciano by UD

Marciano would KO the Jeffries that fought Johnson in 10 rounds IMO.

Christ, stamps were only a mere four pennies during Jeffries' time?

Christ, stamps were only a mere four pennies during Jeffries' time?

i don't think so. i think the four means that he was the fourth heavyweight champion in history. cause the jack johnson stamp has a 7 on it, dempsey's stamp has 9, louis has 16, etc.

i don't think so. i think the four means that he was the fourth heavyweight champion in history. cause the jack johnson stamp has a 7 on it, dempsey's stamp has 9, louis has 16, etc.

You could very well be right in regards to the Jeffries stamp and probably are, but what about the "33" on the Marciano one?

Ah, it don't matter.

You could very well be right in regards to the Jeffries stamp and probably are, but what about the "33" on the Marciano one?

Ah, it don't matter.

you know what? i might just start a thread posting postage stamps with boxers on them. this thread gave me a great idea! :D

why is everyone saying marciano by decision? is marciano bob fitsimmons? no, then marciano would knock his ass out just like jack johnson kicked his ***got ass, except it would be worse. rocky jump all over this racist waste of space and knock his ass out in about eight rounds, period.

why is everyone saying marciano by decision? is marciano bob fitsimmons? no, then marciano would knock his ass out just like jack johnson kicked his ***got ass, except it would be worse. rocky jump all over this racist waste of space and knock his ass out in about eight rounds, period.
lol your just saying that because you hate Jefferies more then Marciano lol.

No Marciano would KO Jefferies in 8-13 rounds. Jefferies would put up a good fight though.

I was messing with you butterfly if you couldn't tell

lol your just saying that because you hate Jefferies more then Marciano lol.

No Marciano would KO Jefferies in 8-13 rounds. Jefferies would put up a good fight though.

I was messing with you butterfly if you couldn't tell

i doubt it. johnson ko'd him in 15, and johnson actually could have kocked him out in about 8 rounds if he wanted to. marciano has more power than johnson, and would throw alot more punches than johnson, so against prime jeffries, marciano in 8.

Johnson would have had difficulty knocking Jim down in his prime IMO, let alone finishing as he did to the completely shot and weakened version.

Marciano late stoppage or more likely a decision. Actually a decision win by Jeffries is not so fantastic, considering his strength advantage and equal tenacity and determination. Jeffries would be the worst opponent for Marciano to fight: a larger version of himself with just as good, if not better, of a chin.

doubt it. johnson ko'd him in 15, and johnson actually could have kocked him out in about 8 rounds if he wanted to. marciano has more power than johnson, and would throw alot more punches than johnson, so against prime jeffries, marciano in 8.

You do realise Jeffries was past his prime and out of shape when he fought Johnson? I think a prime Jeffries could possibly of beat Johnson IMO.

You do realise Jeffries was past his prime and out of shape when he fought Johnson? I think a prime Jeffries could possibly of beat Johnson IMO.

yeah, and that's why i said marciano in eight, and not in four!

yeah, and that's why i said marciano in eight, and not in four!

You should have said Marciano in 9.

You should have said Marciano may or may not even win because Jeffries beat Tom Sharkey, a fight similar in size and style to Marciano, twice whereas Marciano never had to fight anyone like Jeffries.

When Jefferies was in his prime he was obviously a better fighter than Johnson. He came into that fight seven years after retiring and people expected him to magically defeat Johnson, people have always been stupid.

Plus Jefferies went at Bob Fitzsimmons, I doubt Johnson could knock Jefferies out in his prime it Fitzsimmons couldn't.

Marciano would destroy both of them at the same time! KOKO1

When Jefferies was in his prime he was obviously a better fighter than Johnson. He came into that fight seven years after retiring and people expected him to magically defeat Johnson, people have always been stupid.

Plus Jefferies went at Bob Fitzsimmons, I doubt Johnson could knock Jefferies out in his prime it Fitzsimmons couldn't.

Marciano would destroy both of them at the same time! KOKO1

oh really? is that why he ducked johnson when he was champion? is that why he was unskilled and fought people alot smaller than he was? please, johnson knocks out any version of jeffries. johnso0n is far more skilled than jeffries. he's faster, maybe even physically stronger, more crafty, etc. this is a mismatch at it's finest!

oh really? is that why he ducked johnson when he was champion? is that why he was unskilled and fought people alot smaller than he was? please, johnson knocks out any version of jeffries. johnso0n is far more skilled than jeffries. he's faster, maybe even physically stronger, more crafty, etc. this is a mismatch at it's finest!
Johnson was faster and had a better defense then Jefferies IMO but Jefferies was stronger, Prime to Prime it could go either way. Jefferies didn't duck Johnson as far as i know but back then it was conisered an insult to fight a black man because they were "inferior to the white man". Remember u can't say Jefferies ducked anyblack fighter until u think about what it was like to fight black fighters back then

Even if you weren't racist you could easily be mistaken for one back then (though there were nearly nobody that was racist)

Johnson was faster and had a better defense then Jefferies IMO but Jefferies was stronger, Prime to Prime it could go either way. Jefferies didn't duck Johnson as far as i know but back then it was conisered an insult to fight a black man because they were "inferior to the white man". Remember u can't say Jefferies ducked anyblack fighter until u think about what it was like to fight black fighters back then

Even if you weren't racist you could easily be mistaken for one back then (though there were nearly nobody that was racist)

cry me a river, ok? so just becuae that's what people did back then means it ok? of course not! if jeffries thought he was such a bad man and that blacks were inferior and that he couldn't lose to johnson he would have fought johnson, but he didn't so what does that tell you? johnson would have beat any point in their careers. johnson wasn't small like the other fighters jefries was fighting. he has a padded record. how else would he be undefeated before fighting johnson? he only had 20 or so fights. i could name you alot of fighters that was undefeated up to that point. ali, foreman, frazier, louis, marciano, tyson, holmes, spinks, lewis, holyfield, bowe, etc. jeffries is nothing but a myth. johnson would have destroyed him, period.

cry me a river, ok? so just becuae that's what people did back then means it ok? of course not! if jeffries thought he was such a bad man and that blacks were inferior and that he couldn't lose to johnson he would have fought johnson, but he didn't so what does that tell you? johnson would have beat any point in their careers. johnson wasn't small like the other fighters jefries was fighting. he has a padded record. how else would he be undefeated before fighting johnson? he only had 20 or so fights. i could name you alot of fighters that was undefeated up to that point. ali, foreman, frazier, louis, marciano, tyson, holmes, spinks, lewis, holyfield, bowe, etc. jeffries is nothing but a myth. johnson would have destroyed him, period.
I'm not defending Johnson or Jefferies just stating what comes to mind

You just don't like Jeffries, because he was a racist, and so you underrate him as a fighter because of it. Not a big deal, you can think what you want to, but you should at least be honest about it.

However, you do need to stop criticizing Jeffries for avoiding black fighters when Johnson did the same exact thing. Johnson avoided black contenders once he was champion and he's now considered a savvy businessman and intelligent fighter for it. Jeffries did the same thing and he's considered an evil racist. This is what I like to call a double standard.

why are u calling james jeffries a racist when he actually fought black contenders like bob armstrong, hank griffith, etc


he didnt dodge black fighters

bump......

Marciano is NOT going to knock out the man who went 25 rounds in searing 110 + degree heat with Tom Sharkey. Ain't gonna happen.

I do agree with Marciano winning by decision, though. Rocky was the more active of the two while Jeffries usually bided his time and picked his shots. He'd find Marciano to be a tough customer and by the time the he realized he was behind in points, it would be too late.

Marciano by decision.


Another scenario, quite honestly, would be Jeffries by early "Foreman-Frazier I" type of stoppage, should big Jeff decide to go after him. I still lean towards Rock by decsion, though.

http://myhero.com/images/Sports/Marciano/g1_u5989_rocky_marciano.jpg rocky marciano

or

http://www.carroll-ohio.com/JamesJJeffries-stamp.jpeg james jeffries

who wins? 15 rounds.

Marciano by either late KO/TKO or he'll get the decision.

Marciano is NOT going to knock out the man who went 25 rounds in searing 110 + degree heat with Tom Sharkey. Ain't gonna happen.

I do agree with Marciano winning by decision, though. Rocky was the more active of the two while Jeffries usually bided his time and picked his shots. He'd find Marciano to be a tough customer and by the time the he realized he was behind in points, it would be too late.

Marciano by decision.


Another scenario, quite honestly, would be Jeffries by early "Foreman-Frazier I" type of stoppage, should big Jeff decide to go after him. I still lean towards Rock by decsion, though.

T. Sharkey doesn't have nearly the amount of power that Marciano does. I can see Marciano tearing into Jeffries just like Jack Johnson did.

And Jeffries did not fight like Foreman. Foreman was a stand-up slugger, who used a jab and set you up for a right hand or uppercut. Jeffries fought from a croutch, and stalked you to get in a position to lunge in with body shots and then punches to the jaw, and then clinched, pushed you off, and then repeated the process. He wasn't the fast starter that Foreman was by any means.