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PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!!
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ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 02:48 PM PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!! xzworks 05-05-2006, 02:52 PM he has 1 loss on my book. castillo - PBF 1..watch all over again.u'll have the same results. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 02:54 PM I dont know man....his record speaks for itself...I saw the same fight you saw, it was close but he still got the W Xcel 05-05-2006, 03:20 PM he has 1 loss on my book. castillo - PBF 1..watch all over again.u'll have the same results. the rematch where he killed Castillo makes you forget all about the very close first bout. Super_Lightweight 05-05-2006, 03:25 PM No one was killed in the rematch. It was a close fight. Strangely, it was scored closer than the 1st fight which Floyd clearly lost. In any case, Floyd will lose again if he fights De La Hoya. Xcel 05-05-2006, 03:28 PM No one was killed in the rematch. It was a close fight. Strangely, it was scored closer than the 1st fight which Floyd clearly lost. In any case, Floyd will lose again if he fights De La Hoya. In the second fight, PBF clearly won. Super_Lightweight 05-05-2006, 03:30 PM Well duh, no one disputes that. Perhaps Floyd was not lying when he said he hurt his shoulder in the 1st fight. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:31 PM In the second fight, PBF clearly won. Clearly.... Xcel 05-05-2006, 03:33 PM Well duh, no one disputes that. Perhaps Floyd was not lying when he said he hurt his shoulder in the 1st fight. i think that is why people brush off the first fight. Castillo will be champion again, no doubt about it. I think he will take Diego's belt, then Cotto's right after in November. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:34 PM If you look at the competition out there now, he has a pretty good chance of surviving.....I bet Castillo dont want to see Pretty Boy right now. He'll kill that dude.. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:35 PM i think that is why people brush off the first fight. Castillo will be champion again, no doubt about it. I think he will take Diego's belt, then Cotto's right after in November. I like that thought....Cotto on the otherhand will be a nice fight to see. Castilla some nice power Xcel 05-05-2006, 03:37 PM I like that thought....Cotto on the otherhand will be a nice fight to see. Castilla some nice power they have Castillo vs Cotto slated for Nov, granted both win their upcoming fights. I would love to see that fight. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:39 PM I like that Cotto..How old is he?? also Castillo?? If they fight in Nov. I really believe that Pretty Boy should fight the win,,,regardless of who it is.. kerrminator 05-05-2006, 03:41 PM He might lose if he steps up against a live opponent in their prime rather than fighting has beens or never have beens. Its been nearly 4 years since he risked a fight with someone where the result was not a foregone conclusion before the first bell. Roberto_Roldan_ 05-05-2006, 03:44 PM He will lose and he already has. Now at 147 he doesnt carry the speed and power he used to have in the lower weight divisions Xcel 05-05-2006, 03:46 PM He might lose if he steps up against a live opponent in their prime rather than fighting has beens or never have beens. Its been nearly 4 years since he risked a fight with someone where the result was not a foregone conclusion before the first bell. i dont call that Zab fight an easy victory. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:49 PM power, maybe not but speed.....come on dude..this guy hits boxers before they can blink ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:52 PM i dont call that Zab fight an easy victory. unfort. it was easy. I was hoping Zab kicked his ass but he ran out of gas. If he steps his conditioning up Zab has the best chance out there of beating Pretty Boy ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 03:52 PM i dont call that Zab fight an easy victory. unfort. it was easy. I was hoping Zab kicked his ass but he ran out of gas. If he steps his conditioning up Zab has the best chance out there of beating Pretty Boy Kball15 05-05-2006, 04:28 PM i think he'll become a tyson, a toney, a holyfield, and even a jones jr. Meanign he will fight WELL past his prime and will lose his last couple of fights like Jones jr did. OR i think he will lose his first fight by having Roger Mayweather run into the ring during the fight, causing a DQ against mayweather. just guess, but im prolly right. O yea i forgot. if he fights hatton, that'll be his first loss. my bad. i forgot. Kball15 05-05-2006, 04:30 PM unfort. it was easy. I was hoping Zab kicked his ass but he ran out of gas. If he steps his conditioning up Zab has the best chance out there of beating Pretty Boy WHAT? Zab doesnt have a chance in hell of beating Mayweather. Like the byrd Klitchko fight, there is very little that can change in their styles that would change the outcome. In fact, if they rematch there wont be anymore feeling out rounds for mayweather, and PBF will probably KO zab in the 7th or 8th rounds. Kball15 05-05-2006, 04:34 PM I like that Cotto..How old is he?? also Castillo?? If they fight in Nov. I really believe that Pretty Boy should fight the win,,,regardless of who it is.. PBF fighting Castillo again is very unlikely. the only reason they rematched in the first place was because Castillo felt he had a disadvantage in their first bout. Floyd wouldnt want it, and Castillo would prolly want it, but would know that he couldnt have it. It may happen though, but i dont think so. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 04:34 PM WHAT? Zab doesnt have a chance in hell of beating Mayweather. Like the byrd Klitchko fight, there is very little that can change in their styles that would change the outcome. In fact, if they rematch there wont be anymore feeling out rounds for mayweather, and PBF will probably KO zab in the 7th or 8th rounds. Just think man....Zab is faster and has more power. Before he tired out, he was catching the **** out of Preety Boy. All he needs is the wind ...I'm telling you ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 04:36 PM Yea thats a great point buddy. But what about Cotto?? You think Pretty Boy wants to see Cotto for 12 rounds. psychopath 05-05-2006, 04:44 PM I say only if he gets too big headed and move up to high or if he fights too long into his career....What does the world think? What do you think he is immortal? Get real friend :) Yes he hasn't lost yet but somewhere, somehow along line somebody will beat him sooner or later. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 04:51 PM No my friend he is not immortal but fact has it that he has the best chance to go unbeaten. He wont be beaten and he will go down as the second best boxer in history..... GTL 05-05-2006, 05:26 PM i think if he decides to take the fight with DLH.. its goin to be at 154.. thats way to high for him.. i think vernon has a good shot at PBF TheHoff'sGhost 05-05-2006, 05:28 PM No my friend he is not immortal but fact has it that he has the best chance to go unbeaten. He wont be beaten and he will go down as the second best boxer in history..... lol! even if he goes unbeaten he wont even be top 5 of all time Floydko1 05-05-2006, 05:30 PM OBVIOUS Mayweather will get beat some day, He only Human, ppl like Margarito have the best chance off beating Floyd, Antonios a Strong and Powerful boxers who is a Warrior in the ring he will not give Floyd any time to settle into his game plan and will be ontop on off all the time, Also if Myaweather gets ****y and trys 2 move up again to light-middle some1 like KARMAZIN who is strong and powerful could beat floyd maybe even Oumas got a chance. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:32 PM Dude are u serious....UNDEFEATED...... ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:35 PM Margarito.....I bet you said the same thing about Gatti. We all saw what happen to that punk...Margarito is a good boxer..To beat Pretty Boy you have to be damn near perfect.. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:37 PM i think if he decides to take the fight with DLH.. its goin to be at 154.. thats way to high for him.. i think vernon has a good shot at PBF Vernon....lol...now the 150 & up, you have a valid point. DLH can hurt him at that weight,,,,if he can hit him.....DLH dont want to see Pretty Boy at 140 - 145.....Nope ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:38 PM OBVIOUS Mayweather will get beat some day, He only Human, ppl like Margarito have the best chance off beating Floyd, Antonios a Strong and Powerful boxers who is a Warrior in the ring he will not give Floyd any time to settle into his game plan and will be ontop on off all the time, Also if Myaweather gets ****y and trys 2 move up again to light-middle some1 like KARMAZIN who is strong and powerful could beat floyd maybe even Oumas got a chance. Margarito.....I bet you said the same thing about Gatti. We all saw what happen to that punk...Margarito is a good boxer..To beat Pretty Boy you have to be damn near perfect.. Floydko1 05-05-2006, 05:40 PM Dude are u serious....UNDEFEATED...... Mayweathers a poor mans Suger Ray Robinson :D K-DOGG 05-05-2006, 05:41 PM In a word...Yes. They all lose eventually. ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:42 PM I guess you are serious.....Dog, this guy, Pretty Boy, is the definition of domination, execution, etc.....HE IS THE TRUTH ROSEWOOD 05-05-2006, 05:46 PM In a word...Yes. They all lose eventually. I hope he retires before then...They lose when they get old or off their game..This dude is a machine, meaning he never stops training.. Floydko1 05-05-2006, 05:50 PM I guess you are serious.....Dog, this guy, Pretty Boy, is the definition of domination, execution, etc.....HE IS THE TRUTH TRUST me if mayweather takes on the best he will get beat sone day maybe in a years time maybe in 3 but he will get beat, Better fighters than Mayweather have had a Loss or 2,3,4 on their records Ali Joe Louis Fitzsimmons Ray Robinson Hearns Hagler Archie Moore (Archie had 24 Losses 4 god sake) Benny Leonard should i go on :D K-DOGG 05-05-2006, 05:56 PM I hope he retires before then...They lose when they get old or off their game..This dude is a machine, meaning he never stops training.. Mayweather is about as close to a natural fighter as this generation has. He comes from a boxing family so he's got the genes and the knowledge. However, if he sticks around long enough, eventually, he's gonna run into someone who has his number. That's the way it always goes. TheHoff'sGhost 05-05-2006, 07:06 PM Dude are u serious....UNDEFEATED...... yes i am im talking about quality of opponent in which case mayweather aint even top 10 psychopath 05-06-2006, 09:24 AM eventually, he's gonna run into someone who has his number. That's the way it always goes. Check my earllier post brother, that's exactly what I'm saying :) blockhead 05-06-2006, 09:38 AM He will only lose if he gets too big headed and move up to high or if he fights too long into his career...I dont see many fighters out there that can touch Pretty Boy. He is the sport right now and when its all said and done, he will be undefeated.....What does the world think? he already lost to castillo and if he ever fights hatton he will lose again. floyd is far from unbeatable. deliveryman 05-06-2006, 10:27 AM i think he'll become a tyson, a toney, a holyfield, and even a jones jr. Meanign he will fight WELL past his prime and will lose his last couple of fights like Jones jr did. OR i think he will lose his first fight by having Roger Mayweather run into the ring during the fight, causing a DQ against mayweather. just guess, but im prolly right. O yea i forgot. if he fights hatton, that'll be his first loss. my bad. i forgot. How can you say that PBF clearly lost the first Castillo fight? It was a very close fight I scored it 114-112 in favor of PBF Round 1: PBF 10-9 Round 2: PBF 10-9 Round 3: PBF 10-9 Round 4: PBF 10-9 Round 5: PBF 10-9 Round 6: Castillo 10-9 Round 7: Castillo 10-9 Round 8: 9-9 (Castillo won this round but a point deduction) Round 9: PBF 10-9 Round 10: Castillo 10-8 (Castillo won this round, plus a point deduction from Floyd) Round 11: PBF 10-9 Round 12: Castillo 10-9 Total: 114-112 You can't say it was a robbery. blockhead 05-06-2006, 10:30 AM How can you say that PBF clearly lost the first Castillo fight? It was a very close fight I scored it 114-112 in favor of PBF Round 1: PBF 10-9 Round 2: PBF 10-9 Round 3: PBF 10-9 Round 4: PBF 10-9 Round 5: PBF 10-9 Round 6: Castillo 10-9 Round 7: Castillo 10-9 Round 8: 9-9 (Castillo won this round but a point deduction) Round 9: PBF 10-9 Round 10: Castillo 10-8 (Castillo won this round, plus a point deduction from Floyd) Round 11: PBF 10-9 Round 12: Castillo 10-9 Total: 114-112 You can't say it was a robbery. your just wrong, plain and simple. castillo won that fight for sure. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:31 AM he already lost to castillo and if he ever fights hatton he will lose again. floyd is far from unbeatable. dude Hatton!!!!you have got to be ****in joking man.....That dude is subject to lose his next fight ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:33 AM your just wrong, plain and simple. castillo won that fight for sure. i have to go with dman on that playa....Pretty By won the fight .....clearly ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:36 AM TRUST me if mayweather takes on the best he will get beat sone day maybe in a years time maybe in 3 but he will get beat, Better fighters than Mayweather have had a Loss or 2,3,4 on their records Ali Joe Louis Fitzsimmons Ray Robinson Hearns Hagler Archie Moore (Archie had 24 Losses 4 god sake) Benny Leonard should i go on :D Thats exactly why he will be 2Xbetter than those boxers with A LOST OR TWO because he just simply will not lose....Im on this forum for a while so I just track you down five years from now and tell I TOLD YOU SO ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:38 AM Mayweather is about as close to a natural fighter as this generation has. He comes from a boxing family so he's got the genes and the knowledge. However, if he sticks around long enough, eventually, he's gonna run into someone who has his number. That's the way it always goes. I did say if he sticks around too long....He wont man because like you say boxing is in his blood and he is damn smart.. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:40 AM yes i am im talking about quality of opponent in which case mayweather aint even top 10 top 5 already man....check the records......his record TheHoff'sGhost 05-06-2006, 11:44 AM dude Hatton!!!!you have got to be ****in joking man.....That dude is subject to lose his next fight hatton has the style to beat floyd and he will he is too big and strong for floyd TheHoff'sGhost 05-06-2006, 11:45 AM top 5 already man....check the records......his record against who ? his only decent opponenent was castillo and castillo was robbed in the first fight dont even compare his record to the likes of ali robinson hagler leonard and many others because it's an insult Truth 05-06-2006, 11:51 AM Its hard to imagine Mayweather actually losing but he will if he stays around too long. All the great lose when they fight for too long...He should retire at 32... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:51 AM against who ? his only decent opponenent was castillo and castillo was robbed in the first fight dont even compare his record to the likes of ali robinson hagler leonard and many others because it's an insult no my friend its not an insult.....the boy is 28!!!he has at least 5 years left man...lenard had some nice fight but he was stupid....look at his record...hagler, i like hagler so ill let him make it.....he is already i n the likes of those guy....right now Floydko1 05-06-2006, 11:51 AM Thats exactly why he will be 2Xbetter than those boxers with A LOST OR TWO because he just simply will not lose....Im on this forum for a while so I just track you down five years from now and tell I TOLD YOU SO haha urr a joke now serious i would just forget this fourm floyd 2xbetter than Suger Ray Ronbinson,Benny Leonard,Hearns, Hagler,Archie Moore ,Ali Joe Louis Fitzsimmons. i know 4 a fact now tht u have only been watching boxing 4 a few years :D ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:53 AM Its hard to imagine Mayweather actually losing but he will if he stays around too long. All the great lose when they fight for too long...He should retire at 32... damn playa i promise i have been telling these dudes that ****......thanks Floydko1 05-06-2006, 11:53 AM Floyd Mayweather is a POOR MANS Suger Ray Robinson simple as blockhead 05-06-2006, 11:55 AM dude Hatton!!!!you have got to be ****in joking man.....That dude is subject to lose his next fight ok, so why dont you go ahead and earn some e-points and if this fight happens we can bet on it. i will put all of my points on hatton and in the real world i will put about five hundred dollars on him win as well. hatton will be way to much for floyd. floyd got a gift from castillo, and hatton is a much bigger and stronger pressure fighter than castillo. that equals disaster for floyd. TheHoff'sGhost 05-06-2006, 11:56 AM no my friend its not an insult.....the boy is 28!!!he has at least 5 years left man...lenard had some nice fight but he was stupid....look at his record...hagler, i like hagler so ill let him make it.....he is already i n the likes of those guy....right now why is he in the likes of those guys because he is unbeaten :rolleyes: well so is valuev does that mean he is one of the greatest of all time no it does'nt floyd simply doesnt have the quality of opposition on his record to be considered top 10 all time he is skilled though i give him that ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:57 AM haha urr a joke now serious i would just forget this fourm floyd 2xbetter than Suger Ray Ronbinson,Benny Leonard,Hearns, Hagler,Archie Moore ,Ali Joe Louis Fitzsimmons. i know 4 a fact now tht u have only been watching boxing 4 a few years :D dude you wild man.....the future is here...I have not been a fan of Pretty boy for too long..I have just watched him develope over the years....This is the new generation...the thang old school have on todays boxers is that they fought 15 round first...bottom line is that somebody has to move around on that greatest of all time list...And no my friend I've ****ed with the sport sense day one... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 11:58 AM ok, so why dont you go ahead and earn some e-points and if this fight happens we can bet on it. i will put all of my points on hatton and in the real world i will put about five hundred dollars on him win as well. hatton will be way to much for floyd. floyd got a gift from castillo, and hatton is a much bigger and stronger pressure fighter than castillo. that equals disaster for floyd. i just found this site the other day...I need to learn about the e-points playa...help me out blockhead 05-06-2006, 11:59 AM Thats exactly why he will be 2Xbetter than those boxers with A LOST OR TWO because he just simply will not lose....Im on this forum for a while so I just track you down five years from now and tell I TOLD YOU SO youve never seen any of them fight nor have you seen floyd or hatton. you just dont know what your talking about. the only boxing matches you have ever seen are espn classic reruns. you are proving yourself to be as ignorant as buttfly. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:00 PM why is he in the likes of those guys because he is unbeaten :rolleyes: well so is valuev does that mean he is one of the greatest of all time no it does'nt floyd simply doesnt have the quality of opposition on his record to be considered top 10 all time he is skilled though i give him that yes his record helps.....he will fight the best...at least i hope..So if he takes down all the best in the Game, then what????? blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:03 PM i just found this site the other day...I need to learn about the e-points playa...help me out keep posting and you will earn them, i would suggest that you bet on the vbookie but you would lose all of your points and i want to take them so dont do that. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:03 PM youve never seen any of them fight nor have you seen floyd or hatton. you just dont know what your talking about. the only boxing matches you have ever seen are espn classic reruns. you are proving yourself to be as ignorant as buttfly. lol...i feel you dude....have i touch a nerve...you seem to be upset because i can back my points pretty damn well...butterfly.....lol......prove me wrong. give me facts other than those old cats....oh you love Hatton....now thats funny playa ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:05 PM keep posting and you will earn them, i would suggest that you bet on the vbookie but you would lose all of your points and i want to take them so dont do that. lol....i will place my first bet with you ....so what will it be ....**** it i will even take mayo....lol Floydko1 05-06-2006, 12:06 PM dude you wild man.....the future is here...I have not been a fan of Pretty boy for too long..I have just watched him develope over the years....This is the new generation...the thang old school have on todays boxers is that they fought 15 round first...bottom line is that somebody has to move around on that greatest of all time list...And no my friend I've ****ed with the sport sense day one... Since day one hey gud4u :D untill mayweather gets the big names on his record he ant even top 40 for me :D And mayweathers crazy if he thinks he gonna move up to middle weight one day he ant even a big Welterweight 4 god sake :D Floyd 2 ****y 4 his own good he great boxer but should stay at welter, he could beat a few guys up at Light middle true, but i dont think he could beat a KARMAZIN or OUMA at light middle, and Middleweight lol he crazy if he ever thinks about going up their floyds talkd about facing WINKY at middleweight lol Winky would kill mayweather at tht weight, blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:07 PM lol...i feel you dude....have i touch a nerve...you seem to be upset because i can back my points pretty damn well...butterfly.....lol......prove me wrong. give me facts other than those old cats....oh you love Hatton....now thats funny playa what??, no you didnt touch a nerve and no i dont "love" hatton. i just think that he will be the one who beats floyd and if you look at styles and past fights it is clear that he has the best chance of beating him. and since floyd is already "top five" with his record were does that pu valuev and hatton, they both have more wins and are undefeated so they must be number 2 and three after marciano right. blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:08 PM lol....i will place my first bet with you ....so what will it be ....**** it i will even take mayo....lol i knew you would take mayonaise ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:09 PM Since day one hey gud4u :D untill mayweather gets the big names on his record he ant even top 40 for me :D And mayweathers crazy if he thinks he gonna move up to middle weight one day he ant even a big Welterweight 4 god sake :D Floyd 2 ****y 4 his own good he great boxer but should stay at welter, he could beat a few guys up at Light middle true, but i dont think he could beat a KARMAZIN or OUMA at light middle, and Middleweight lol he crazy if he ever thinks about going up their floyds talkd about facing WINKY at middleweight lol Winky would kill mayweather at tht weight, now that is a valid point playa....I really thinks he know that and will except only big fights now...thats why he wants to fight the winner of DLH & Mayo..good point playa ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:10 PM i knew you would take mayonaise I like you playa......so its a bet.....How...i wont bet everything right away man......I need to save some for the big fights blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:11 PM now that is a valid point playa....I really thinks he know that and will except only big fights now...thats why he wants to fight the winner of DLH & Mayo..good point playa he will lose to either one of them. mayonaise cant box for **** but he is way way to hard a puncher for floyd to handle. thats why he wants an old slowed down version of dlh. the dlh that faught trinidad or vargas would make floyd look like a fool. Tyrant 05-06-2006, 12:12 PM lol@ people who actually think hatton has a chance... i ****in hate floyd mayweather but the mutha****a is smart and his skills are just incredible... the reason why floyd is so successul because he puts 110% into boxing ... hes up at 5 in the morning everyday running and working out ...never stops training n **** ... so he has skill and speed ... no power or not a strong chin ... but skill and speed ... hatton will get destroyed by mayweather... i hope to god they hurry up and book this fight ...and all of you who want to bet on hatton (mostly from the uk) lets go to a legalized betting site ..and bet ...i will throw $300 on mayweather... put your money where your mouth is ... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:15 PM what??, no you didnt touch a nerve and no i dont "love" hatton. i just think that he will be the one who beats floyd and if you look at styles and past fights it is clear that he has the best chance of beating him. and since floyd is already "top five" with his record were does that pu valuev and hatton, they both have more wins and are undefeated so they must be number 2 and three after marciano right. marciano.....ALI.....thats a good point....i was waiting on you to say something like that. You have a great point so run with it.....you might be right....but hey, hatton will eventually lose and Pretty Boy wont....I would love to see PB beat the **** out of Hatton.....lol...thats it...beat him up.....lol ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:17 PM lol@ people who actually think hatton has a chance... i ****in hate floyd mayweather but the mutha****a is smart and his skills are just incredible... the reason why floyd is so successul because he puts 110% into boxing ... hes up at 5 in the morning everyday running and working out ...never stops training n **** ... so he has skill and speed ... no power or not a strong chin ... but skill and speed ... hatton will get destroyed by mayweather... i hope to god they hurry up and book this fight ...and all of you who want to bet on hatton (mostly from the uk) lets go to a legalized betting site ..and bet ...i will throw $300 on mayweather... put your money where your mouth is ... DAMN.......Now you talking....thats what im saying....he puts everyting into boxing... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:19 PM he will lose to either one of them. mayonaise cant box for **** but he is way way to hard a puncher for floyd to handle. thats why he wants an old slowed down version of dlh. the dlh that faught trinidad or vargas would make floyd look like a fool. I doubt it.....The thing is can Hatton hit him....We saw what happened to Gatti.......MMMMMMUUUURRRRRDDDDDDAAAAAAA was the case that they gave him blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:32 PM I doubt it.....The thing is can Hatton hit him....We saw what happened to Gatti.......MMMMMMUUUURRRRRDDDDDDAAAAAAA was the case that they gave him good one. comparing hatton to gatti is rediculous. gatti has nothing as far as skill goes. i would like to see gatti v. hatton though. blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:34 PM lol@ people who actually think hatton has a chance... i ****in hate floyd mayweather but the mutha****a is smart and his skills are just incredible... the reason why floyd is so successul because he puts 110% into boxing ... hes up at 5 in the morning everyday running and working out ...never stops training n **** ... so he has skill and speed ... no power or not a strong chin ... but skill and speed ... hatton will get destroyed by mayweather... i hope to god they hurry up and book this fight ...and all of you who want to bet on hatton (mostly from the uk) lets go to a legalized betting site ..and bet ...i will throw $300 on mayweather... put your money where your mouth is ... i have every intention of betting on this fight if it happens. i will get odds on the brit fighter and it will look like the lacy calzaghe fight. everyone betting on floyd and floyd getting destroyed. if this fight happens floyd will get knocked down with a body shot. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:36 PM I give you that one...gatti is a lucky puncher, no skillls, no defense, etc.......say man you gave me a disapproval...thats ****ed up playa.. blockhead 05-06-2006, 12:43 PM I give you that one...gatti is a lucky puncher, no skillls, no defense, etc.......say man you gave me a disapproval...thats ****ed up playa.. noob hazing. "playa" eazy_mas 05-06-2006, 12:45 PM Let make things straight Hatton: defense is not that good and easly could have a cut. Margartio: Big and Powerful and punch like an Uzi, but could he corner Floyd and even if he did Floyd could easly eascape. Cotto: Another not he has less possibality than Hatton and Margarito because he is a bit slow and Floyd will first give some round and then will try to KO. Good defense but Floyd is very accurate and fast puncher. Trinidad: Weak techincal stuff, easy for Floyd to figure him out if Hopkins and Winky did. Zab: Floyd gave him the first round and even didnt use his speed just to show other boxer he is not all about speed but tech. Kazmin: Have a possiblity, I would like this guy to fight Hatton and start some Triogloy together. Possibly good body puncher but Floyd could use his shoulder to portect himself. Oscar De la Hayo: He got good chance because, 1.His trainer is Floyd Sr and 2. He is an adaptive type of fighter. But still he is old so I give it to PBF Shane Mosely: Good choose but the guy anit getting younger. Mayorga: another Gatti, at least if Floyd is going to win him the will remeber him for his be heart :D Spinks: another good fighter , I dont much could be. Ouma:one of my fav. boxer. Southpaw,stamina and Speed got the 3 S around him but weak to bodyshots, he is still developing and I hope this guy to beat so the could make him into a Hollywood movie. another thing anyone saying Floyd oppenet qauilty are bad then look at his resume. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:48 PM Let make things straight Hatton: defense is not that good and easly could have a cut. Margartio: Big and Powerful and punch like an Uzi, but could he corner Floyd and even if he did Floyd could easly eascape. Cotto: Another not he has less possibality than Hatton and Margarito because he is a bit slow and Floyd will first give some round and then will try to KO. Good defense but Floyd is very accurate and fast puncher. Trinidad: Weak techincal stuff, easy for Floyd to figure him out if Hopkins and Winky did. Zab: Floyd gave him the first round and even didnt use his speed just to show other boxer he is not all about speed but tech. Kazmin: Have a possiblity, I would like this guy to fight Hatton and start some Triogloy together. Possibly good body puncher but Floyd could use his shoulder to portect himself. Oscar De la Hayo: He got good chance because, 1.His trainer is Floyd Sr and 2. He is an adaptive type of fighter. But still he is old so I give it to PBF Shane Mosely: Good choose but the guy anit getting younger. Mayorga: another Gatti, at least if Floyd is going to win him the will remeber him for his be heart :D Spinks: another good fighter , I dont much could be. Ouma:one of my fav. boxer. Southpaw,stamina and Speed got the 3 S around him but weak to bodyshots, he is still developing and I hope this guy to beat so the could make him into a Hollywood movie. another thing anyone saying Floyd oppenet qauilty are bad then look at his resume. Thats the sport there man......I must say I like the point....I love Tito but that was a good point.. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 12:50 PM noob hazing. "playa" noob hazing??? I have no idea what that is playa.......I guess you defend your points too good...that bad...lol Mick Hucknall 05-06-2006, 01:04 PM I find alot of guys just can't deal with the fact that we have a boxer of this generation who is equal in skills p4p to the likes of SRR Ali or SRL and if (and thats a bif if) he manages to retire undefeated having stepped up his game to fight the likes of Hatton, Margarito etc then i can't see no reason why he wouldn't be placed p4p top 5 all time if he can clear up his division which might i add is a strong one then steps up to have a crack at De Le Hoya ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 01:07 PM I find alot of guys just can't deal with the fact that we have a boxer of this generation who is equal in skills p4p to the likes of SRR Ali or SRL and if (and thats a bif if) he manages to retire undefeated having stepped up his game to fight the likes of Hatton, Margarito etc then i can't see no reason why he wouldn't be placed p4p top 5 all time if he can clear up his division which might i add is a strong one then steps up to have a crack at De Le Hoya My point exactly playa....The guys on this tread just refuse to deal with the facts and what you said my friend is a FACT.... blockhead 05-06-2006, 01:38 PM My point exactly playa....The guys on this tread just refuse to deal with the facts and what you said my friend is a FACT.... i dont think anyone is refusing to recognize that floyd could be an all timer. but he has to step up the competition and fight hatton, mosley, dlh, margarito (even though he is all hype) and some others. he is most certainly beatable. he doesnt punch hard enough to ko any of these guy, but they have the power to put him down. so he is going to have to use those skills that he has in order to work his way around them. floyd will be on his bicycle all night against hatton and margarito. he will run away like zab ran from balomir. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 01:41 PM i think he'll become a tyson, a toney, a holyfield, and even a jones jr. Meanign he will fight WELL past his prime and will lose his last couple of fights like Jones jr did. OR i think he will lose his first fight by having Roger Mayweather run into the ring during the fight, causing a DQ against mayweather. just guess, but im prolly right. O yea i forgot. if he fights hatton, that'll be his first loss. my bad. i forgot. i think he is too smart to do what those others have done.....besides, it has only paid off for a few boxers.... GunStar 05-06-2006, 01:41 PM i dont think anyone is refusing to recognize that floyd could be an all timer. but he has to step up the competition and fight hatton, mosley, dlh, margarito (even though he is all hype) and some others. he is most certainly beatable. he doesnt punch hard enough to ko any of these guy, but they have the power to put him down. so he is going to have to use those skills that he has in order to work his way around them. floyd will be on his bicycle all night against hatton and margarito. he will run away like zab ran from balomir.If Floyd retires today, he will be an all timer. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 01:43 PM i dont think anyone is refusing to recognize that floyd could be an all timer. but he has to step up the competition and fight hatton, mosley, dlh, margarito (even though he is all hype) and some others. he is most certainly beatable. he doesnt punch hard enough to ko any of these guy, but they have the power to put him down. so he is going to have to use those skills that he has in order to work his way around them. floyd will be on his bicycle all night against hatton and margarito. he will run away like zab ran from balomir. yea zab punked out...i think he will step his comp. up fights with hatton, mosley, dlh, margarito would prove to be great fight..i will bet you if any was to happen.. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 01:44 PM If Floyd retires today, he will be an all timer. point taken playa... eazy_mas 05-06-2006, 01:51 PM Floyd Mayweather have an advantge over many boxers he go one good trainer that is fully concentration on him so i dont know what he is going to do without him. Because it seem Roger Mayweather is really helping PBF in many thing and if he is fight a person who is techincal good he need some ring side tips to change a bit his stragtgy of fighting. I wont be suprised if PBF lost to Oscar Alien_Tanks 05-06-2006, 02:02 PM My bet is on Siete Mares to take him out. If PBF ever decides to fight him :boxing: Xcel 05-06-2006, 02:22 PM the biggest edge PBF has is his team around him. they have his interest at heart, are extremely qualified at what they do. mayweather 05-06-2006, 02:28 PM in my opinion, i think floyd could lose a fight sometime in the future against margarito or hatton by a close decision, and come back in the rematch and leave no question elgaringo 05-06-2006, 02:37 PM in my opinion, i think floyd could lose a fight sometime in the future against margarito or hatton by a close decision, and come back in the rematch and leave no question well said!! Hatton and Margarito are threats like Duran was to Leonard, Fraizer was to Ali, Lamotta was to Robinson. Floyd is class no question! I dont know which one of these will take this role of adding to his legacy and there own. What do you think??? :boxing: :boxing: legend 05-06-2006, 02:37 PM I think Floyd has skills, but he's going to have to fight the best of his generation before you can say he is the best. Where's his fights against Cotto, Hatton, Margarito? I would put Hatton p4p before PBF simply because Hatton's biggest win was an undisputed tko over a legendary fighter while Floyd's was a controversial win that he didn't earn against Castillo. mayweather 05-06-2006, 02:41 PM well said!! Hatton and Margarito are threats like Duran was to Leonard, Fraizer was to Ali, Lamotta was to Robinson. Floyd is class no question! I dont know which one of these will take this role of adding to his legacy and there own. What do you think??? :boxing: :boxing: I think hatton will add to his legacy the most if hatton builds more popularity and it ends up a close fight which im sure would be the case elgaringo 05-06-2006, 02:46 PM I think hatton will add to his legacy the most if hatton builds more popularity and it ends up a close fight which im sure would be the case especially if the fight is exciting!! Then it would be really memorable!! :boxing: :boxing: eazy_mas 05-06-2006, 02:56 PM I think Floyd has skills, but he's going to have to fight the best of his generation before you can say he is the best. Where's his fights against Cotto, Hatton, Margarito? I would put Hatton p4p before PBF simply because Hatton's biggest win was an undisputed tko over a legendary fighter while Floyd's was a controversial win that he didn't earn against Castillo. you forgot over Floyd other fight like Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Judah, Hernandez, N'Dou...etc and the list goes on and on. Hatton is a good fighter and maybe is better than Margartio is but I dont think he could beat Floyd becase he is a slugger and Floyd is a boxer. GunStar 05-06-2006, 02:58 PM I think Floyd has skills, but he's going to have to fight the best of his generation before you can say he is the best. Where's his fights against Cotto, Hatton, Margarito? I would put Hatton p4p before PBF simply because Hatton's biggest win was an undisputed tko over a legendary fighter while Floyd's was a controversial win that he didn't earn against Castillo.No offense, go back to your Wlad postings. mayweather 05-06-2006, 03:05 PM you forgot over Floyd other fight like Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Judah, Hernandez, N'Dou...etc and the list goes on and on. Hatton is a good fighter and maybe is better than Margartio is but I dont think he could beat Floyd becase he is a slugger and Floyd is a boxer. yes agreed Xcel 05-06-2006, 03:05 PM I think Floyd has skills, but he's going to have to fight the best of his generation before you can say he is the best. Where's his fights against Cotto, Hatton, Margarito? I would put Hatton p4p before PBF simply because Hatton's biggest win was an undisputed tko over a legendary fighter while Floyd's was a controversial win that he didn't earn against Castillo. go back and look at his record, its like a who's who of boxing. Of all fighters, regardless of weightclass, he has the most impressive record going. blockhead 05-06-2006, 03:14 PM go back and look at his record, its like a who's who of boxing. Of all fighters, regardless of weightclass, he has the most impressive record going. bull**** he does. his record is not nearly as good as james toneys, mab, pacman. **** it, joe calzone has a better record than floyd as well. GunStar 05-06-2006, 03:29 PM go back and look at his record, its like a who's who of boxing. Of all fighters, regardless of weightclass, he has the most impressive record going.Only Barlog has a better resume. deliveryman 05-06-2006, 03:51 PM I'm just plain wrong? Did you even watch the fight. When they say Castillo won the first fight, they seem to forget the first 5 rounds that were all PBF (Round 3 was pretty even, but still in favor of PBF), You're telling me PBF didn't win only 2 rounds the rest of the fight? (Rounds 9 and 11 could've easily been scored in favor of floyd.) you're just a floyd hater / hatton nut hugger. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:47 PM Floyd Mayweather have an advantge over many boxers he go one good trainer that is fully concentration on him so i dont know what he is going to do without him. Because it seem Roger Mayweather is really helping PBF in many thing and if he is fight a person who is techincal good he need some ring side tips to change a bit his stragtgy of fighting. I wont be suprised if PBF lost to Oscar exactly man.....Roger was a world champ also...thats why Pretty Boy trains like a machine. There is no one out there that train like him...Roy Jone use to train like that and he was winning...as soon as he started ****ing Rap A Lot he got knocked the **** out. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:49 PM My bet is on Siete Mares to take him out. If PBF ever decides to fight him :boxing: I dont think yo boy is worthy of fighting Pretty Boy....sorry ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:50 PM the biggest edge PBF has is his team around him. they have his interest at heart, are extremely qualified at what they do. Roger is the key.....he keeps pretty boy on top of his game 24/7... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:53 PM in my opinion, i think floyd could lose a fight sometime in the future against margarito or hatton by a close decision, and come back in the rematch and leave no question man coming from what seems to be a huge Pretty Boy fan, I must say that takes a real heart to even say he will lose against those guys....sorry playa but they better wait until he is 40yrs to fight pretty boy....and then he may still beat them up Xcel 05-06-2006, 08:53 PM Roger is the key.....he keeps pretty boy on top of his game 24/7... no dispute here, PBF has the best camp in the game. Tyson might still be on top now had he had people that actually cared and valued his career and life. did you hear PBF in the corner after the melee during the Zab fight, he said "Is Roger mad at me?" that shows the respect he has for his uncle and mentor and he is open to listen and learn. ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:55 PM I think Floyd has skills, but he's going to have to fight the best of his generation before you can say he is the best. Where's his fights against Cotto, Hatton, Margarito? I would put Hatton p4p before PBF simply because Hatton's biggest win was an undisputed tko over a legendary fighter while Floyd's was a controversial win that he didn't earn against Castillo. He will fight the best and beat the best because he is the best.......In the game today....hands down ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:57 PM you forgot over Floyd other fight like Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Judah, Hernandez, N'Dou...etc and the list goes on and on. Hatton is a good fighter and maybe is better than Margartio is but I dont think he could beat Floyd becase he is a slugger and Floyd is a boxer. yes....you dudes hear that.....he a BOXER :boxing: .....hatton is subject to lose his upcoming fight man, trust me... ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 08:59 PM bull**** he does. his record is not nearly as good as james toneys, mab, pacman. **** it, joe calzone has a better record than floyd as well. ZERO L's.....All W's.....holla back ROSEWOOD 05-06-2006, 09:01 PM I'm just plain wrong? Did you even watch the fight. When they say Castillo won the first fight, they seem to forget the first 5 rounds that were all PBF (Round 3 was pretty even, but still in favor of PBF), You're telling me PBF didn't win only 2 rounds the rest of the fight? (Rounds 9 and 11 could've easily been scored in favor of floyd.) you're just a floyd hater / hatton nut hugger. LOL....tell him again...Pretty Boy won the fight man and these guys just wont except it.....nut hugger.....say playa you wild!! DISfranchised 05-06-2006, 09:09 PM Hoya can when. He's game for anything. Doesnt talk smack either and thats why people like him. ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 12:19 PM Hoya can when. He's game for anything. Doesnt talk smack either and thats why people like him. Well we will see now.....he is going to kill DLH come this fall.... ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 01:05 PM yes i am im talking about quality of opponent in which case mayweather aint even top 10 What will you say when he beats the **** out of DLH.......oh and make him retire by 2007.... beezy 14 05-07-2006, 01:31 PM I'm wit u rosewood ppl criticize PBF for everything, Even Oscar said PBF was the best and said that he doesn't wanna get embarrased but after last night I'm sure he's more confident but I've never heard Oscar admit that he has in a uphill battle so to speak. Just my opinion but I think PBF beats Oscar maybe not KO em but clearly beats him blockhead 05-07-2006, 01:33 PM ZERO L's.....All W's.....holla back ok wero l's, calzone way more w's than floyd, hatton zero l's all w's, your an idiot. beezy 14 05-07-2006, 02:17 PM If you want Hatton's legacy to be like Calzaghe's then he'll stay undefeated with good and below average competition. If you want the respect you feel he deserves then he's gotta face GREAT opponents before they're beginning to fade and not in Manchester (Tsyzu). Like how mayweather beat corrales,henandez,castillo, judah.etc otherwise it's like Calzaghe calling out RJJ when he beat Toney and Hopkins and Tarver just some of the best fighters in their era and Calzaghe acts great for beating a 1 dimensional Lacy! tykilroy 05-07-2006, 06:22 PM Juda exposed PBF in their fight. Mayweather can't fight when the pressure is on him. Everytime Juda came foward PBF didn't know how to fight. If Delahoya keeps the pressure on PBF he will win. Delahoya can take a hell of a punch and hits hard; harder than PBF. I dont think PBFs chin has ever been tested like it's going to be against delahoya. If it happens it will be Delahoya unanimus decision drez24 05-07-2006, 06:53 PM Juda exposed PBF in their fight. Mayweather can't fight when the pressure is on him. Everytime Juda came foward PBF didn't know how to fight. If Delahoya keeps the pressure on PBF he will win. Delahoya can take a hell of a punch and hits hard; harder than PBF. I dont think PBFs chin has ever been tested like it's going to be against delahoya. If it happens it will be Delahoya unanimus decision I have to call BS here. I gave 1, 2, and 4 to Judah, but that was only because you can't win a round by not throwing punches, which was what Floyd did. He was very defensive, and to his credit, blocked the majority of Zab's punches. Zab landed 1 or 2 counters in the first two rounds, which was enough to give him the rounds because of Floyds inactivity. But "exposed?" Hardly. The reason a lot of people said he was exposed was because he did not completely dominate from the first bell. And it was not to be expected, as Judah is a top tier fighter. When two fighters of that level get in the same ring, punches are bound to land for both fighters. Hell, Mayorga landed a few on Oscar. ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:17 PM ok wero l's, calzone way more w's than floyd, hatton zero l's all w's, your an idiot. dog you mad because you are the only ****er that LOVES Hatton.....you must be on dope or something if you think for one second he has any chance in hell of beating Pretty Boy....LOL ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:19 PM If you want Hatton's legacy to be like Calzaghe's then he'll stay undefeated with good and below average competition. If you want the respect you feel he deserves then he's gotta face GREAT opponents before they're beginning to fade and not in Manchester (Tsyzu). Like how mayweather beat corrales,henandez,castillo, judah.etc otherwise it's like Calzaghe calling out RJJ when he beat Toney and Hopkins and Tarver just some of the best fighters in their era and Calzaghe acts great for beating a 1 dimensional Lacy! Playa dont even debate with that dude anymore.....he has to be one of the dumbest **** on this site.... ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:22 PM Juda exposed PBF in their fight. Mayweather can't fight when the pressure is on him. Everytime Juda came foward PBF didn't know how to fight. If Delahoya keeps the pressure on PBF he will win. Delahoya can take a hell of a punch and hits hard; harder than PBF. I dont think PBFs chin has ever been tested like it's going to be against delahoya. If it happens it will be Delahoya unanimus decision That is true...Zab was on his ass...he just simply ran out of gas...Zab is quicker and stronger but has poor conditioning. Thats is biggest downfall. I was pulling for Zab until he did that dirty ass low blow....**** him now!! LondonRingRules 05-07-2006, 10:26 PM If you want Hatton's legacy to be like Calzaghe's then he'll stay undefeated with good and below average competition. If you want the respect you feel he deserves then he's gotta face GREAT opponents before they're beginning to fade and not in Manchester (Tsyzu). Like how mayweather beat corrales,henandez,castillo, judah.etc otherwise it's like Calzaghe calling out RJJ when he beat Toney and Hopkins and Tarver just some of the best fighters in their era and Calzaghe acts great for beating a 1 dimensional Lacy! ** Funny, but I just don't seem to remember PurtyGrrl going to Mexico, UK, Germany, or Puerto Rico to fight. Hatton has enough confidence to come to the US because the powers that be realize he has a great style to attract viewers, unlike Floyd who can't draw flies in his own home country. No wonder PurtyGrrl wants to fight Oscar. Someone will finally watch him! ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:26 PM I have to call BS here. I gave 1, 2, and 4 to Judah, but that was only because you can't win a round by not throwing punches, which was what Floyd did. He was very defensive, and to his credit, blocked the majority of Zab's punches. Zab landed 1 or 2 counters in the first two rounds, which was enough to give him the rounds because of Floyds inactivity. But "exposed?" Hardly. The reason a lot of people said he was exposed was because he did not completely dominate from the first bell. And it was not to be expected, as Judah is a top tier fighter. When two fighters of that level get in the same ring, punches are bound to land for both fighters. Hell, Mayorga landed a few on Oscar. no playa he did indeed win 3 of the first 4 rounds...he was defensive but at the same time he was getting his ass popped..Zab tank was on E by round 5.........Thats why Pretty Boy was able to turn the tables and get in his ass. Zab had him had he not ****ing stops punch and stayed in his grill.... blockhead 05-07-2006, 10:27 PM dog you mad because you are the only ****er that LOVES Hatton.....you must be on dope or something if you think for one second he has any chance in hell of beating Pretty Boy....LOL all i was saying with that post is that if you want to judge fighters based on their undefeated records floyd isnt the best there are fighters out there with more wins that are undefeated. i dont LOVE any boxer. i think that the best fight out there is floyd v. hatton and hatton has the style to make this a great ****ing fight just like castillo v. floyd. ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:30 PM ** Funny, but I just don't seem to remember PurtyGrrl going to Mexico, UK, Germany, or Puerto Rico to fight. Hatton has enough confidence to come to the US because the powers that be realize he has a great style to attract viewers, unlike Floyd who can't draw flies in his own home country. No wonder PurtyGrrl wants to fight Oscar. Someone will finally watch him! You want the champ then you have to find him...Pretty Boy dont have to travel to kick ass...Why leave the US when all the great ones are here in America...Dnat hate this dude because he is POUND FOR POUND the best out there....You see ESPN had Hatton as the most OVERRATED boxer in the game....what you say about that?? ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 10:31 PM all i was saying with that post is that if you want to judge fighters based on their undefeated records floyd isnt the best there are fighters out there with more wins that are undefeated. i dont LOVE any boxer. i think that the best fight out there is floyd v. hatton and hatton has the style to make this a great ****ing fight just like castillo v. floyd. playa listen to me....hatton dont got **** on Pretty Boy...He will knock him out if they meet...thats if hatton can pass his next test....lol ROSEWOOD 05-07-2006, 11:09 PM PRETTY BOY is hands down POUND FOR POUND the best and future second greatest fight in the WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!! DiEgO_cHiCo_CoRRaLeS 05-07-2006, 11:17 PM if de la hoya fight pretty girl then mayweather will get his ass WHOOPED! beezy 14 05-08-2006, 01:08 AM That's because the money is in the U.S. so why would the P4P king go to second rate places to host his fight's? Even Hatton knows that this is true which is why his next "tuneup" is in Boston. So that's why PBF would be foolish to fught there and both fighters would make less. You can't demand people to come to Manchester when you've yet to get in there with the top guys. But to Hatton's credit he knows this and is finally crossing the pond, somebody shoulda got to Calzaghe! beezy 14 05-08-2006, 01:11 AM Somebody's still mad from what PBF did to Corrales!! Now all of a sudden Oscar's gonna whip PBF! Easy-E 05-08-2006, 01:16 AM Somebody's still mad from what PBF did to Corrales!! Now all of a sudden Oscar's gonna whip PBF! and what he did to judah. DCC is a floyd hater throught and through. Part of me doesnt mind these haters because FLoyd just keeps shutting them up. PapiShasho 05-08-2006, 01:37 AM if de la hoya fight pretty girl then mayweather will get his ass WHOOPED! I'd seriously consider putting my life savings on this fight if I ever find an idiot who'll actually bet on DLH. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 10:37 AM if de la hoya fight pretty girl then mayweather will get his ass WHOOPED! ok playa.....I promise he will make him retire before 2007....mark my words ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 10:39 AM Somebody's still mad from what PBF did to Corrales!! Now all of a sudden Oscar's gonna whip PBF! lol...playa i couldnt have said it better....they are still mad...they may kill themselves after DLH is beat up...lol ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 10:43 AM and what he did to judah. DCC is a floyd hater throught and through. Part of me doesnt mind these haters because FLoyd just keeps shutting them up. yes sir he does...one by one they are all jumping on the vessel..... ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 10:44 AM I'd seriously consider putting my life savings on this fight if I ever find an idiot who'll actually bet on DLH. there are a couple of jacks that would bet on DLH.....you will win a gang of money..lol ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 01:13 PM Come On People RwK 05-08-2006, 01:22 PM Lets just say....Shane Mosley is no pushover. Especially against Floyd and he has the stuff to beat him. Shane is a great fighter flying under the radar as well. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 01:28 PM Lets just say....Shane Mosley is no pushover. Especially against Floyd and he has the stuff to beat him. Shane is a great fighter flying under the radar as well. great fighter he is BUT he only has the power....not the quickness or speed.....i say that he will close sugars eyes before the 9 round....better ask Gatti... RwK 05-08-2006, 01:32 PM great fighter he is BUT he only has the power....not the quickness or speed.....i say that he will close sugars eyes before the 9 round....better ask Gatti... I don't know about that chief. Mosley universally has trouble against guys that use height and reach as a tool in defeating him. He and Mayweather are around the same size respectively...but Mosley has a 2 inch reach advantage, and is an awesome body puncher. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 01:35 PM I don't know about that chief. Mosley universally has trouble against guys that use height and reach as a tool in defeating him. He and Mayweather are around the same size respectively...but Mosley has a 2 inch reach advantage, and is an awesome body puncher. yea he is a great body puncher but Pretty Boy is a great BOXER...Reaching for his body will get Sugars eye shut quicker if not knocked out...Reach adv. yes...defense against a fly...no RwK 05-08-2006, 01:37 PM yea he is a great body puncher but Pretty Boy is a great BOXER...Reaching for his body will get Sugars eye shut quicker if not knocked out...Reach adv. yes...defense against a fly...no Yeah, well. "Sugar" Shane Mosley is not Arturo "Thunder" Gatti. Shane is ten times the fighter man.....Carry on. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 01:40 PM Yeah, well. "Sugar" Shane Mosley is not Arturo "Thunder" Gatti. Shane is ten times the fighter man.....Carry on. Great point playa....Gatti suck foreal..but still age is a factor in this match...no question sugar can go all 12 but what about going all 12 while beingb hit 12000 times.... RAESAAD 05-08-2006, 01:51 PM I think that at this point i would give DLH and Mosley a decent shot at beating him.They both have the edge in power and experience and are very skilled fighters.They do not have the speed to match up any lobger but have been fighting at 147 and 154 and even 160 in DLH situation for many years now and Floyd has just made his way to 147.I really want to see DLH/PBF now and think DLH has a legit shot at winning. :boxing: ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 01:55 PM I think that at this point i would give DLH and Mosley a decent shot at beating him.They both have the edge in power and experience and are very skilled fighters.They do not have the speed to match up any lobger but have been fighting at 147 and 154 and even 160 in DLH situation for many years now and Floyd has just made his way to 147.I really want to see DLH/PBF now and think DLH has a legit shot at winning. :boxing: power and experience..you are correct....fight at 147 longer you are correct....but too much experience is their problem...I really believe stamina will be the issue with sugar or dlh...Pretty Boy will dance and pop dance and pop..But at the same time if he gets hit be sugar or dlh, can he take it...I dont know!!! RAESAAD 05-08-2006, 02:01 PM power and experience..you are correct....fight at 147 longer you are correct....but too much experience is their problem...I really believe stamina will be the issue with sugar or dlh...Pretty Boy will dance and pop dance and pop..But at the same time if he gets hit be sugar or dlh, can he take it...I dont know!!! True....very good point.PBF can box for days but if they can get him hurt or something that could change it all.Either way I think they would be decent fights since we can't seem to get him in there with Hatton or Margarito yet. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 02:05 PM True....very good point.PBF can box for days but if they can get him hurt or something that could change it all.Either way I think they would be decent fights since we can't seem to get him in there with Hatton or Margarito yet. yea playa both would be great fights....margi is not worthy and hatton is simply get hurt. I would like to see Zab face him again in better shape...hell or even Cotto if they can agree upon a weight.. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 03:13 PM its hard to believe that a few people think Pretty Boy should face that chump Hatton....Give me a break playaz ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:17 PM Holla At Yo Boy!! armani_model 05-08-2006, 05:18 PM I voted Hatton! blockhead 05-08-2006, 05:20 PM playa listen to me....hatton dont got **** on Pretty Boy...He will knock him out if they meet...thats if hatton can pass his next test....lol ok :rolleyes: feather fisted floyd couldnt put judah down but he is gonna ko hatton :rolleyes: thats just stupid. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:21 PM I voted Hatton! Great....you lose armani_model 05-08-2006, 05:22 PM Great....you lose Lose what.... :confused: ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:23 PM ok :rolleyes: feather fisted floyd couldnt put judah down but he is gonna ko hatton :rolleyes: thats just stupid. Hatton wouldnt be able to handle the volume of punch that he will get served from Pretty Boy....kinda like Gatti.....TKO playa blockhead 05-08-2006, 05:23 PM Great....you lose i cant wait for this fight to happen. i would love to see your face when floyd is crawling around on the canvas with broken ribs from a hatton left hook to the body. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:24 PM Lose what.... :confused: The chance to be a true Pretty Boy Fan.......just joking playa....thanks for the vote.....lol blockhead 05-08-2006, 05:24 PM Hatton wouldnt be able to handle the volume of punch that he will get served from Pretty Boy....kinda like Gatti.....TKO playa hatton has twice as much skill as gatti. and he punches way harder than anyone floyd has faced. armani_model 05-08-2006, 05:25 PM i cant wait for this fight to happen. i would love to see your face when floyd is crawling around on the canvas with broken ribs from a hatton left hook to the body. lol, I can see Hatton giving floyd a bloody nose. Not too sure who will win the fight, can go either way...but come on Hatton!! ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:26 PM i cant wait for this fight to happen. i would love to see your face when floyd is crawling around on the canvas with broken ribs from a hatton left hook to the body. I tell you what...I wont be the only looking stupid if that was to happen....but the chances are very slim blockhead.... blockhead 05-08-2006, 05:26 PM lol, I can see Hatton giving floyd a bloody nose. Not too sure who will win the fight, can go either way...but come on Hatton!! i know, this will be a great fight. they have styles that clash in a way that will be great to watch. the weterweight division is loaded with talent right now. armani_model 05-08-2006, 05:27 PM I tell you what...I wont be the only looking stupid if that was to happen....but the chances are very slim blockhead.... Well 40% of the votes have gone to Hatton... :) ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:29 PM lol, I can see Hatton giving floyd a bloody nose. Not too sure who will win the fight, can go either way...but come on Hatton!! you ride with hatton....thats prob. the biggest mistake one can make...Pretty Boy is the king of the ring right now and yo boy is maybe #2.....but remember #2 is not a winner and #3 nobody remembers....lol..... ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:30 PM i know, this will be a great fight. they have styles that clash in a way that will be great to watch. the weterweight division is loaded with talent right now. load indeed...its like nonstop action beezy 14 05-08-2006, 05:31 PM Hatton has been dropped before and I don't mean a slipping or glove touch so he can be dropped. And I think Judah knew he was gonna get stopped that's why he pulled them stunts, so you can't say that he coulden't of dropped him. Hatton does have great pressure but he's gonna have to catch him first! ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:31 PM Well 40% of the votes have gone to Hatton... :) I see playa I see....I hope this fight happens soon man because I promise you boyz are not going to want to come to my threads anymore....I will hate to lose two Great Chatsman.....lol armani_model 05-08-2006, 05:32 PM you ride with hatton....thats prob. the biggest mistake one can make...Pretty Boy is the king of the ring right now and yo boy is maybe #2.....but remember #2 is not a winner and #3 nobody remembers....lol..... True...but what goes up must come down... Number 1 aint got in the ring with Number 2...so we shall see :) ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 05:35 PM True...but what goes up must come down... Number 1 aint got in the ring with Number 2...so we shall see :) I like you playa....that is very true....we will see......... PPPPPPPRRRRRREEEETTTTTTYYYYYY BBBBBOOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! blockhead 05-08-2006, 05:39 PM I like you playa....that is very true....we will see......... PPPPPPPRRRRRREEEETTTTTTYYYYYY BBBBBOOOOYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! do you find floyd mayweather to be sexually attractive? ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 11:22 PM Hatton has been dropped before and I don't mean a slipping or glove touch so he can be dropped. And I think Judah knew he was gonna get stopped that's why he pulled them stunts, so you can't say that he coulden't of dropped him. Hatton does have great pressure but he's gonna have to catch him first! its no way in hell hatton can catch that boy...he can catch 200 to the chin and 150 to the body. That is sure to drop him.. ROSEWOOD 05-08-2006, 11:28 PM do you find floyd mayweather to be sexually attractive? say playa gon on with that gay ****. If you gon talk boxing talk boxing...it not then get yo punk ass on....I'm talking boxing and you actin 12yrs old....grow up punk ass KID.. Piggu 05-09-2006, 01:13 AM Now that DLH has beat up Mayo, will he run into the quickest ass kicking of his career???? YES YES & YES Pretty Boy will make him retire before 2007.....Thus remaining undeated..... Vote for the boxer that has the best chance of defeating Pretty Boy:boxing: He will only lose if he gets too big headed and move up to high or if he fights too long into his career...I dont see many fighters out there that can touch Pretty Boy. He is the sport right now and when its all said and done, he will be undefeated.. There are some pretty good points being posted here...Whats your???..What does the world think about Pretty Boy not losing a fight and possibly going down as the second greatest boxer ever? :boxing: Second greatest behind who? AREALFIGHTER 05-09-2006, 02:36 AM Now that DLH has beat up Mayo, will he run into the quickest ass kicking of his career???? YES YES & YES Pretty Boy will make him retire before 2007.....Thus remaining undeated..... Vote for the boxer that has the best chance of defeating Pretty Boy:boxing: He will only lose if he gets too big headed and move up to high or if he fights too long into his career...I dont see many fighters out there that can touch Pretty Boy. He is the sport right now and when its all said and done, he will be undefeated.. There are some pretty good points being posted here...Whats your???..What does the world think about Pretty Boy not losing a fight and possibly going down as the second greatest boxer ever? :boxing:lenox lewis was considered in the mold of mayweather to much skill and game. Floyd like lewis is not immune from being ktfo. its that simple he is just not good enough to ever loose put a prim leonard agienst mayweather and this is no longer a dibatable topic the fact is floyd can and will loose he is not that good when he starts fighting elites and wins casitillo was not really an elite fighter when he fought floyd. floyd can and will be beat but I think floyd will come back from defeat when it happens and show a true boxers heart. beezy 14 05-09-2006, 05:00 AM I love SRL and PBF it's tough to say you know somebody would win for sure you forgot PBF's defense and that castillo fight was his fist at the weight. He won but ppl questioned so he beat him more clearly, I'm not delusional tho because anybody could lose. I think ppl forget some said Corrales would pressure and blah blah and it was so lopsided you would of thought corrales was a bumm. I think if he were to lose it'll be against a bigger stronger fighter at 154 maybe czars_salad 05-09-2006, 06:11 AM Hatton wouldnt be able to handle the volume of punch that he will get served from Pretty Boy....kinda like Gatti.....TKO playa it's gotta be either oscar or hatton. oscar win depends upon timing, he gotta fight pbf asap coz age is not on his side. hatton's chances will be his relentless attack. but in both cases, the fights will be very difficult for both of them ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 10:20 AM Second greatest behind who? Im so pretty....ALI playa....everyone knows that.....The Greatest.... ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 10:21 AM lenox lewis was considered in the mold of mayweather to much skill and game. Floyd like lewis is not immune from being ktfo. its that simple he is just not good enough to ever loose put a prim leonard agienst mayweather and this is no longer a dibatable topic the fact is floyd can and will loose he is not that good when he starts fighting elites and wins casitillo was not really an elite fighter when he fought floyd. floyd can and will be beat but I think floyd will come back from defeat when it happens and show a true boxers heart. valid point and it is indeed taken..... ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 10:25 AM I love SRL and PBF it's tough to say you know somebody would win for sure you forgot PBF's defense and that castillo fight was his fist at the weight. He won but ppl questioned so he beat him more clearly, I'm not delusional tho because anybody could lose. I think ppl forget some said Corrales would pressure and blah blah and it was so lopsided you would of thought corrales was a bumm. I think if he were to lose it'll be against a bigger stronger fighter at 154 maybe exactly...corrales sucks and it was a tune-up fight....I said in the beginning that he will lose if he decides to move up in weight class...I think he knows that 154 is too heavy for him because he felt bad for not being able to drop Zab at 147...140-147 is his weight and I think thats were he will get his paper at.. ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 10:28 AM it's gotta be either oscar or hatton. oscar win depends upon timing, he gotta fight pbf asap coz age is not on his side. hatton's chances will be his relentless attack. but in both cases, the fights will be very difficult for both of them I believe DLH will be difficult, but the Hatton match would turn out just like the Gatti bout....Pretty Boy might just break his hand again from beating the crap out of that boy.... ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 03:23 PM It looks like Zab wont be fighting Pretty Boy for the next year or so...Thats too bad because he had prob. the best chance of beating Pretty Boy..will someone step up and get beat up??? ROSEWOOD 05-09-2006, 05:41 PM Blockhead....where You At Playa...... ROSEWOOD 05-10-2006, 10:22 AM he has 1 loss on my book. castillo - PBF 1..watch all over again.u'll have the same results. PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!! cobracore 05-10-2006, 12:22 PM I know someone that pretty boy will NEVER be able to beat. He's undefeated. He is a legend, a hero to his Nation. A spectacular speicmen, a wonder of nature. No man can stand before him.. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/599/NikolayValuevEtienne4.jpg This man.. Will KILL floyd. NAh. ACtually, i think hatton will best him. Margi potentially could, but i think he's too slow. ROSEWOOD 05-10-2006, 12:37 PM I know someone that pretty boy will NEVER be able to beat. He's undefeated. He is a legend, a hero to his Nation. A spectacular speicmen, a wonder of nature. No man can stand before him.. http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/599/NikolayValuevEtienne4.jpg This man.. Will KILL floyd. NAh. ACtually, i think hatton will best him. Margi potentially could, but i think he's too slow. Marg....NO.......Hatton.......NO......I will be sure to watch Hatton Close in his fight this weekend. I just cant make myself believe that he can beat Pretty Boy..His record looks great but his crazy ass style would get him crushed....real quick like... ROSEWOOD 05-11-2006, 01:49 PM I guess Im not the only person that thinks Pretty Boy will never lose!!!! Deeznuts 05-11-2006, 02:09 PM 95% of fighters loose at least once. Floyd is human his turn will come.....maybe not anytime soon though. Mr. Ryan 05-11-2006, 02:15 PM The fighters I give a chance at beating Mayweather are: Ricky Hatton: Hatton's an all out brawler who will walk through hellfire for a victory. He will be fighting at 147, and carries that weight around alot more naturally than Mayweather. His body attack and work rate will make a very tough night for Mayweather. Antonio Margarito: Margarito is a go for broke warrior who looks more middleweight than welterweight. Long laboring as the most avoided fighter in boxing, he is hungry for a fight against the top fighters in the sport. Mayweather would be forced to hide all night from Margarito, and look to potshot him and be out. Mayweather turned down 8 million to fight the Tijuana fighter. Oscar De La Hoya: The Golden Boy's hand speed and punching power would make this an entertaining bout. This would be a big money fight, particularly since De La Hoya looked very impressive in blowing out Ricardo Mayorga in his last fight. This would be an even money fight. ROSEWOOD 05-11-2006, 02:42 PM 95% of fighters loose at least once. Floyd is human his turn will come.....maybe not anytime soon though. Anytime soon..95%....Pretty Boy is far from year average fighter..far my friend. as of right now, there is no one out there...DLH wont fight him due to his father ****. Hatton aint ready nor is Marg. who's out there?? ROSEWOOD 05-11-2006, 02:47 PM The fighters I give a chance at beating Mayweather are: Ricky Hatton: Hatton's an all out brawler who will walk through hellfire for a victory. He will be fighting at 147, and carries that weight around alot more naturally than Mayweather. His body attack and work rate will make a very tough night for Mayweather. Antonio Margarito: Margarito is a go for broke warrior who looks more middleweight than welterweight. Long laboring as the most avoided fighter in boxing, he is hungry for a fight against the top fighters in the sport. Mayweather would be forced to hide all night from Margarito, and look to potshot him and be out. Mayweather turned down 8 million to fight the Tijuana fighter. Oscar De La Hoya: The Golden Boy's hand speed and punching power would make this an entertaining bout. This would be a big money fight, particularly since De La Hoya looked very impressive in blowing out Ricardo Mayorga in his last fight. This would be an even money fight. I cant argue with your point playa, they are valid. But I can add that Marg. is not worthy of fight Pretty Boy..He needs a few more fights under his belt playa. He will be looking for that lucky punch against Pretty Boy. Hard worker, yes ill give him that but worthy...i dont see it. DLH is not going to happen so its looks like we might see Pretty Boy & Hatton by the end of the year....I sure hope so.... Mr. Ryan 05-11-2006, 05:35 PM I cant argue with your point playa, they are valid. But I can add that Marg. is not worthy of fight Pretty Boy..He needs a few more fights under his belt playa. He will be looking for that lucky punch against Pretty Boy. Hard worker, yes ill give him that but worthy...i dont see it. DLH is not going to happen so its looks like we might see Pretty Boy & Hatton by the end of the year....I sure hope so.... Mayweather claims to be the best at 147, Margarito does also. Why not they both stop talking **** and bang out. When Mayweather came to 147, he inherited the responsibility of shutting up Mayweather. And at 147, who is worthy of Mayweather? Zab Judah? Margarito is worthy to fight anyone at 147. ROSEWOOD 05-11-2006, 05:49 PM Mayweather claims to be the best at 147, Margarito does also. Why not they both stop talking **** and bang out. When Mayweather came to 147, he inherited the responsibility of shutting up Mayweather. And at 147, who is worthy of Mayweather? Zab Judah? Margarito is worthy to fight anyone at 147. Great point playa...I guess I feel the whole 147 deal....You if he the best then shut everyone up in that weight..147..i feel that..I dont know tho playa...Pretty Boy's hand speed is crazy...some like lighting fast...even at 147...yo boy marg. is also a lucky homer run puncher, almost hoping something connects....I can truly see Gatti Take II all over again......I have to go playa...holla at you later... Mr. Ryan 05-11-2006, 05:52 PM Great point playa...I guess I feel the whole 147 deal....You if he the best then shut everyone up in that weight..147..i feel that..I dont know tho playa...Pretty Boy's hand speed is crazy...some like lighting fast...even at 147...yo boy marg. is also a lucky homer run puncher, almost hoping something connects....I can truly see Gatti Take II all over again......I have to go playa...holla at you later... Um, peace? :confused: I can't stand Margarito, he's a slag. ROSEWOOD 05-12-2006, 10:12 AM Um, peace? :confused: I can't stand Margarito, he's a slag. I cant stand a lucky puncher either playa...thats what he is and if he fights any kind of boxer,,,he will get killed....very technical like.. ROSEWOOD 05-13-2006, 12:10 PM The poll is lookin real clear now.....Hatton it should be if he wins tonite...Althought I really doubt he will blockhead 05-13-2006, 12:56 PM PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!! thats just stupid, if he keeps fighting nobodies and dip****s like judah he will, but he will lose for sure if he starts fighting real boxers again. and he should have a loss on his record anyways. everyone knows floyd got a gift against castillo. so we will see what happens when floyd fights a bigger pressure fighter and gets his ass handed to him. AllEyesOpen 05-13-2006, 01:19 PM I dont know what makes people think Hatton can hand Mayweather a lose, Mayweather aint gonna stand in front of him, his gonna peck him away like he did Judah. Margarito would have a better chance but not by much. In the end though if Mayweather wants his place in History he's gonna have to go after the best like De La Hoya did, and i dont see anyone out there who can handle such a well perfected boxing style, but this is boxing, and what i love about boxing is everyone has a puncher's chance and no ones chin is unbreakable. All the boxing skills in the world can't save you from a well landed power punch. The only person i see possibly handing PBF a loss is De La Hoya cause it'll be at a higher weight(i dont think de la hoya will face PBF at welterweight.), Mayweather looks small as a welterweight and i dont think he could handle Oscar's speed & power. ROSEWOOD 05-13-2006, 02:41 PM thats just stupid, if he keeps fighting nobodies and dip****s like judah he will, but he will lose for sure if he starts fighting real boxers again. and he should have a loss on his record anyways. everyone knows floyd got a gift against castillo. so we will see what happens when floyd fights a bigger pressure fighter and gets his ass handed to him. I agree but he wont..next 5 to 10 fight will all be PPV blockbusters...just watch...starting with your boy Hatton..oh but he is going to lose tonite...and i bet Zab would kill him to..zab just plays too ****in much.. ROSEWOOD 05-13-2006, 02:43 PM I dont know what makes people think Hatton can hand Mayweather a lose, Mayweather aint gonna stand in front of him, his gonna peck him away like he did Judah. Margarito would have a better chance but not by much. In the end though if Mayweather wants his place in History he's gonna have to go after the best like De La Hoya did, and i dont see anyone out there who can handle such a well perfected boxing style, but this is boxing, and what i love about boxing is everyone has a puncher's chance and no ones chin is unbreakable. All the boxing skills in the world can't save you from a well landed power punch. The only person i see possibly handing PBF a loss is De La Hoya cause it'll be at a higher weight(i dont think de la hoya will face PBF at welterweight.), Mayweather looks small as a welterweight and i dont think he could handle Oscar's speed & power. I agree but his daddy aint gon let the **** happen DLH wants tho...he said it on quite frankly.. blockhead 05-13-2006, 02:44 PM I agree but he wont..next 5 to 10 fight will all be PPV blockbusters...just watch...starting with your boy Hatton..oh but he is going to lose tonite...and i bet Zab would kill him to..zab just plays too ****in much.. alright playa, we will see. ROSEWOOD 05-13-2006, 02:47 PM alright playa, we will see. yep..we will see...but I see your boy looked like a killa at the weigh-in...he was crunk and ****.... ROSEWOOD 05-14-2006, 04:35 AM after tonights fight...pretty boy would killa hatton...just like he beat gatti.. Southpaw16 05-14-2006, 05:03 AM Hatton is leading the poll? Very surprising, I think that Margarito and De La Hoya both have much better chances of beating Floyd, especially after tonight. No love for Margarito? Only 5%? osamabinwayne 05-14-2006, 06:07 AM Mayweather should of stayed at 130 and cleaned out the division. Going up several weight classes is extremely dangerous. p4p is the best fighter out there right now but his chin and ability to take punishment has not been tested yet. Winky Write would make him look like a fool. Miguel Cotto will overpower him. He should of just stayed at his natural weight to preserve his record. ROSEWOOD 05-14-2006, 11:46 AM Hatton is leading the poll? Very surprising, I think that Margarito and De La Hoya both have much better chances of beating Floyd, especially after tonight. No love for Margarito? Only 5%? yea playa, marg gets no love....i really want to see hatton and Pretty Boy get it on real soon...not DLH.....im not with that fighting pretty boy and retirine ****...he try to use pretty boy to finalize his legacy and it aint going to happen... ROSEWOOD 05-14-2006, 11:52 AM Mayweather should of stayed at 130 and cleaned out the division. Going up several weight classes is extremely dangerous. p4p is the best fighter out there right now but his chin and ability to take punishment has not been tested yet. Winky Write would make him look like a fool. Miguel Cotto will overpower him. He should of just stayed at his natural weight to preserve his record. True, he really should have cleaned out the divison....boxers just dont do that **** anymore...B Hop was the last to do so....I hope and pray he dont geyt stupid and move up to MW..he really would get crushed...simply because he would get over powered...as for his chin...fighters are not quick enough to tap his chin or punish pretty boy...Zab was the quickest out there but he ran out of gas.... Carolina Bomber 05-14-2006, 12:05 PM PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!! disagree completely, everybody loses at some point in there careers, thats what makes them great, coming back from defeats, how great can u be if uve never been truly tested ROSEWOOD 05-14-2006, 12:09 PM disagree completely, everybody loses at some point in there careers, thats what makes them great, coming back from defeats, how great can u be if uve never been truly tested he will get tested and he will survive....You dont have to lose to be considered great...he will stay in the 140-147 range and simply take over..a least I hope so..fighter lose when they get stupid and jump from feather to heavyweight class....thats how they lose Carolina Bomber 05-14-2006, 12:11 PM True, he really should have cleaned out the divison....boxers just dont do that **** anymore...B Hop was the last to do so....I hope and pray he dont geyt stupid and move up to MW..he really would get crushed...simply because he would get over powered...as for his chin...fighters are not quick enough to tap his chin or punish pretty boy...Zab was the quickest out there but he ran out of gas.... what he should do now is clean up the welterweight division, and not move up, i think moving up to light middle would be a mistake, clean up the division Floyd and be the next great welterweight, i aint down with what shoulda been and what woulda been, this is now, **** what he shouldve done at 130 lbs, do that at 147! hes got a good chance to be GREAT. dont screw it up by moving up again, and poor margarito man dont nobody wanna fight him. i strongly feel that Floyds next fight should be with Margarito and not Oscar Carolina Bomber 05-14-2006, 12:13 PM he will get tested and he will survive....You dont have to lose to be considered great...he will stay in the 140-147 range and simply take over..a least I hope so..fighter lose when they get stupid and jump from feather to heavyweight class....thats how they lose how many champions have retired undefeated? answer me that question ROSEWOOD 05-14-2006, 12:15 PM how many champions have retired undefeated? answer me that question none playa...thats why he would be the second greatest when he retires...because he would be the first one to retire unbeated LondonRingRules 05-14-2006, 01:05 PM none playa...thats why he would be the second greatest when he retires...because he would be the first one to retire unbeated ** When did turnips start using computers? Yeah, right, Floyd is gonna take over the jrwelts and welts by NOT fighting the top guys. Maybe he's a turnip too! Carolina Bomber 05-14-2006, 01:16 PM none playa...thats why he would be the second greatest when he retires...because he would be the first one to retire unbeated Rocky Marciano is the only one to have done it, and the only reason he did was cuz he felt his skills were starting to diminish, so he did the smart thing and retired, i feel very strongly that no one will ever retired undefetead again, believe me when i say every great champion loses in his career, remember that when Floyd loses within the next 18 months either to Margarito, De La Hoya, or Hatton yrrej 05-14-2006, 01:40 PM He will only retire undefeated if he retires immediately. Otherwise, just like the other "pretty boys", e.g. Whittaker, Leonard, even back to Robinson, he will lose, and probably sooner rather than later due to the big paydays which lure little people like him into fights with bigger, skilled fighters. oliverlt 05-14-2006, 01:42 PM I think if someone is undefetead he isnt fighting the right boxers. there is always someone who can beat you even if its just one fight Piggu 05-14-2006, 07:23 PM Yes PBF will lose eventually. blockhead 05-14-2006, 07:24 PM none playa...thats why he would be the second greatest when he retires...because he would be the first one to retire unbeated your so highly educated in the history of boxing. ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:30 AM ** When did turnips start using computers? Yeah, right, Floyd is gonna take over the jrwelts and welts by NOT fighting the top guys. Maybe he's a turnip too! get yo stupid ass on with that dumb **** playa....... ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:33 AM Rocky Marciano is the only one to have done it, and the only reason he did was cuz he felt his skills were starting to diminish, so he did the smart thing and retired, i feel very strongly that no one will ever retired undefetead again, believe me when i say every great champion loses in his career, remember that when Floyd loses within the next 18 months either to Margarito, De La Hoya, or Hatton That the way you do it playa....Rocky was a smart man.. why stick around as a bum fight...always leave at the top of your game....no man should ever want to take an ass whippin...Pretty Boy will be the next to do so..I sure will remember your quote buddy... ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:35 AM He will only retire undefeated if he retires immediately. Otherwise, just like the other "pretty boys", e.g. Whittaker, Leonard, even back to Robinson, he will lose, and probably sooner rather than later due to the big paydays which lure little people like him into fights with bigger, skilled fighters. damn playa that is a great point...big paydays often lure little fighters to face bigger fighters than they can handle....I truly believe that pretty boy is too smart for that crap...at least i hope so... ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:37 AM I think if someone is undefetead he isnt fighting the right boxers. there is always someone who can beat you even if its just one fight Yea, but who says that someone is a top fighter...he may be that punk with the 1-37 record...but of course he will never get a shot at a bigtimer... AllEyesOpen 05-15-2006, 11:40 AM In boxing it's true that most have a stomach bigger then their mouths, but i think mayweather has to face the best boxers(like DLH) out there and show what he's capable of, that runs the risk of lossing, but in the end your place in history will be cemented. PBF beat Judah at the top of his game, fighting at 100%, Judah's previous fight was not at 100%, and he won decisivly. In my opinion i dont see anyone handing him a loss but DLH. ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:41 AM your so highly educated in the history of boxing. no playa i am nowhere near the level I would like to be...their are some boxing educated dudes on this site...Im actually learning and finding out more fact everyday Im on this site....These guys know their fighters as well as their fights... ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 11:45 AM In boxing it's true that most have a stomach bigger then their mouths, but i think mayweather has to face the best boxers(like DLH) out there and show what he's capable of, that runs the risk of lossing, but in the end your place in history will be cemented. PBF beat Judah at the top of his game, fighting at 100%, Judah's previous fight was not at 100%, and he won decisivly. In my opinion i dont see anyone handing him a loss but DLH. Yea, many say that after the Mayo fight..but what was why everyone was trying to convince DLH to retire. Fact has it that he beat the crap out of mayo, BUT Mayo and Mayw are two totally different fighters....DLH looked great against mayo buy he is damn near passed his prime...Pretty Boy would kill him, Hatton, marg, etc.... DiegoFuego 05-15-2006, 12:33 PM No one was killed in the rematch. It was a close fight. Strangely, it was scored closer than the 1st fight which Floyd clearly lost. In any case, Floyd will lose again if he fights De La Hoya. :bottle: :bottle: :bottle: Floyd > Roy and Floyd ain't even 30 yet! I know you can't stand that! :D DiegoFuego 05-15-2006, 12:33 PM I think Mayweather will retire undefeated and seal a spot among the top 3 greatest to ever do it. Bank on that. ROSEWOOD 05-15-2006, 12:36 PM I think Mayweather will retire undefeated and seal a spot among the top 3 greatest to ever do it. Bank on that. That real playa...I feel you to the fullest... ROSEWOOD 05-16-2006, 04:11 PM the poll % has changed since the Hatton Fight.. ROSEWOOD 05-20-2006, 11:39 AM Hit the poll playaz.... Piggu 05-20-2006, 08:38 PM Yes he will lose eventually. ROSEWOOD 05-21-2006, 11:33 AM Yes he will lose eventually. To whom and why?? The Wire 05-21-2006, 11:42 AM He'll lose eventually as someone young will come along and he will get old. Very few fighters retire undefeated - look at Roy Jones, Muhummad Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran - everyone loses eventually. I think Amir Khan could do it when Floyd's about 37. I used to think Hatton could do it but I have changed my mind post Collazo ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:18 PM He'll lose eventually as someone young will come along and he will get old. Very few fighters retire undefeated - look at Roy Jones, Muhummad Ali, Robinson, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran - everyone loses eventually. I think Amir Khan could do it when Floyd's about 37. I used to think Hatton could do it but I have changed my mind post Collazo You named all those fighters that eventually lost a fight but you forgot one thing..Pretty Boy is Pretty Boy..I think he is too smart for those..if he isnt in shame on him..Amir is a nice fighter but you said it best...when he is 37... RwK 05-22-2006, 01:20 PM I don't know how in the hell you people think Floyd can beat Shane. That's a style mismatch and everyone knows it. ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:25 PM I don't know how in the hell you people think Floyd can beat Shane. That's a style mismatch and everyone knows it. style mismatch.....lol....sugar is all power..he has lost his speed & quickness..pretty boy will crush him... RwK 05-22-2006, 01:27 PM style mismatch.....lol....sugar is all power..he has lost his speed & quickness..pretty boy will crush him... The only way to beat Mosley is to fight tall and there is no way in hell Floyd can do that. Plus there is nothing Floyd has that can possibly hurt Shane either. ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:31 PM The only way to beat Mosley is to fight tall and there is no way in hell Floyd can do that. Plus there is nothing Floyd has that can possibly hurt Shane either. punch his ass until the ref cant take it anylonger...remember gatti playa..pretty boy will make like a fly on his ass...sugar be lucky if he can land a punch RwK 05-22-2006, 01:33 PM punch his ass until the ref cant take it anylonger...remember gatti playa..pretty boy will make like a fly on his ass...sugar be lucky if he can land a punch Like I stated, "Sugar" Shane Mosley...is not Arturo "Thunder" Gatti. JDizzle79 05-22-2006, 01:35 PM mayweather should already have a 1 in the loss column after the castillo fight The Wire 05-22-2006, 01:37 PM You named all those fighters that eventually lost a fight but you forgot one thing..Pretty Boy is Pretty Boy..I think he is too smart for those..if he isnt in shame on him..Amir is a nice fighter but you said it best...when he is 37... You think Floyd Mayweather is smarter than Sugar Ray Leonard?! DREAM AWAY, MY MAN, DREAM AWAY beezy 14 05-22-2006, 01:39 PM I'm a PBF fan but I think a fight with Mosley or Oscar would be good fight's, I don't think Mosley's footwork is as fast as in his prime. PBF could move on his feet to a win if he doesn't get hurt with anything IMO. ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:40 PM You think Floyd Mayweather is smarter than Sugar Ray Leonard?! DREAM AWAY, MY MAN, DREAM AWAY Playa, he fought at the age of 40 something..thats dumb...lol...you knowe that **** is dumb.. ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:42 PM I'm a PBF fan but I think a fight with Mosley or Oscar would be good fight's, I don't think Mosley's footwork is as fast as in his prime. PBF could move on his feet to a win if he doesn't get hurt with anything IMO. Exactly, sugar still has the ****in power tho..he was rockin vargas ass..body head body body...he is still nice but he wont win.. ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:43 PM Like I stated, "Sugar" Shane Mosley...is not Arturo "Thunder" Gatti. different fighter same result... ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:46 PM mayweather should already have a 1 in the loss column after the castillo fight thats not what the judges said...Pretty Boy won in their eyes..but in everyone else eyes he lost...we dont count playa..were only the viewers...its bad but its also true JDizzle79 05-22-2006, 01:47 PM thats not what the judges said...Pretty Boy won in their eyes..but in everyone else eyes he lost...we dont count playa..were only the viewers...its bad but its also true Well, in the eyes of the viewers/fans, Castillo won that fight. Mayweather fans even said they thought Castillo won. Oh well, such is life ROSEWOOD 05-22-2006, 01:51 PM Well, in the eyes of the viewers/fans, Castillo won that fight. Mayweather fans even said they thought Castillo won. Oh well, such is life yep, such is life...karma playa ROSEWOOD 05-25-2006, 03:16 PM PRETTY BOY WILL RETIRE UNDEFEATED!!! Pretty Boy is gaining ground in the poll!!!!!! tommyhearns804 05-25-2006, 03:35 PM He already lost to Castillo in there first bout and when he faces another guy who isnt a waste of space he will lose again. |