View Full Version : Andrew Golota - how many chances does one joker get?
!! Anorak 02-04-2005, 04:59 PM The Tyson quitter gets a (controversial) draw with Byrd.
He loses to John "John" Ruiz.
And now he's up against Brewster.
What will they do, just keep putting him up time and again until he bores someone into submission?
Floydmayweather 02-04-2005, 05:48 PM Golata is a joke.
PacKillsMorales 02-04-2005, 06:02 PM he beat byrd yet got screwed.
he beat ruiz yet got screwed.
now he fights brewster.
better not get screwed.
ok hes unstable,unpredictable and ultimately unreliable.
but hes got skills and that says alot in this division
especially with the current HW champs.
Brewster is a joke.
Byrd and Ruiz are jokes.
Rahmans a joke and sos golota
its like that and thats the way it is :rolleyes:
Slipx 02-04-2005, 06:05 PM I know one of the trainers at Windy City gym in Chicago. I asked him about Golata of course, and he filled me in. Golata comes to the gym and most of the time only wraps one hand, does a little bit of work waits like 45 min then wraps the other hand and works on it. then sits/lays around on the bench for long periods of time, watching others. Nobody will spar with him. and even the ****ty amateur boxers clown him behind his back from what I understand.
However I bet nobody spars with him because he punches very hard.. Golata is the type of guy that would just say '**** it' and make it a war with full power hooks etc. in a sparring match.
tri4ben2 02-04-2005, 07:41 PM Golata has some talent, but Don King should not keep feeding us this crap.
I am refusing to watch Golata Brewster.
!! Anorak 02-04-2005, 07:46 PM I'm getting angry just thinking about it... normally if a guy "loses" a title shot he has to work his way back up... not get another go right at one.
King's identikit mix and shuffle match-offs... the only one you'll never see is title holder vs. title holder. That way his chances of losing control over a belt holder will be doubled.
Nautilus 02-04-2005, 09:00 PM how many chances does one joker get?
as many as Dong King gives him
ejk22 02-04-2005, 09:04 PM I know one of the trainers at Windy City gym in Chicago. I asked him about Golata of course, and he filled me in. Golata comes to the gym and most of the time only wraps one hand, does a little bit of work waits like 45 min then wraps the other hand and works on it. then sits/lays around on the bench for long periods of time, watching others. Nobody will spar with him. and even the ****ty amateur boxers clown him behind his back from what I understand.
However I bet nobody spars with him because he punches very hard.. Golata is the type of guy that would just say '**** it' and make it a war with full power hooks etc. in a sparring match.
They don't spar with him out of fear!!
ejk22 02-04-2005, 09:07 PM Anorak asked "How many chances does one joker get'
You can say the same thing about Tyson and Holyfield. But I am sure you and many others don't mind Tyson getting more chances to right his wrongs.
Kimmy 02-04-2005, 11:09 PM Golota didn`t deserve to fight Byrd but i think put up a very good fight against him so maybe he deserved the Ruiz fight. But now its Brewster....and what if he loses this one? Maybe Wladimir will beat Byrd if they fight then it`ll be Klitscko Vs Golota and probably Klitscko will win! Golota, i agree, has had his 7th chance and just because he is marketable doesn`t give him the right to continuely fight for titles and not have earned them.
warped 02-04-2005, 11:15 PM The Tyson quitter gets a (controversial) draw with Byrd.
He loses to John "John" Ruiz.
And now he's up against Brewster.
What will they do, just keep putting him up time and again until he bores someone into submission?
I agree. Everyone keeps talking about how much potential he has and how he got screwed. I just don't see it.
joeboxer 02-05-2005, 01:11 AM They will keep throwin him in the mix till he gets KO'd. Brewster won't be doing that, so I think we will have to wait a little while, maybe Sam Peter or James Toney could embarass him out of boxing.
phallus 02-05-2005, 01:17 AM They will keep throwin him in the mix till he gets KO'd. Brewster won't be doing that, so I think we will have to wait a little while, maybe Sam Peter or James Toney could embarass him out of boxing.
i think this is the foul pole's last chance, i think he will lose to "the black rocky" even though this is a fight he should win. i hate ruiz, but when i watched Golota - Ruiz i thought huggy did just enough to win the fight, Brew will throw more punches than ruiz did, and will keep getting up if the foul pole knocks him down... for some reason, i think this will frustrate g and take him out of his game plan, maybe even enough to give Brew the chance to land enough shots to take a decsion
GasPed 02-05-2005, 03:30 AM i think this is the foul pole's last chance, i think he will lose to "the black rocky" even though this is a fight he should win. i hate ruiz, but when i watched Golota - Ruiz i thought huggy did just enough to win the fight, Brew will throw more punches than ruiz did, and will keep getting up if the foul pole knocks him down... for some reason, i think this will frustrate g and take him out of his game plan, maybe even enough to give Brew the chance to land enough shots to take a decsion
Totally agree, this is his last chance. But I actually think he'll win this one. Much as I like Lamon, he's just not very good.
!! Anorak 02-05-2005, 04:40 AM I agree.There's a first for everything, eh? :)
I like your avatar btw.
AIR_KENG 02-05-2005, 05:04 AM as many as Dong King gives him
yes, as many as the biggest joke (king) gives them...
neils7147933 02-05-2005, 06:26 AM Being a "champ" doesn't mean all that much anymore, now that guys are dropping belts.
It used to be somebody dropping the WBC but keeping the WBA and IBF...now guys are voluntarily dropping the only belt they have.
So Golota's "title" shot isn't all that grand. I think IBA champ James Toney said it right, "Titles don't make a fighter. Fighters make a title."
There are some good WBO champions right now; Lamon Brewster's not one of them.
Let's not forget, though, that shortly before making heavyweight history, George Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison.
But, yeah, against Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Ruiz and Byrd, Golota is 0-4-1 with one no contest that he was losing.
I understand he dominated Bowe and the Byrd fight was close, but even restrained and on "good behavior" this guy still is a mess. He gets DQ'd twice against Bowe, quits against Tyson, hits Ruiz while he's down (look to the Peter/Diaz fight with how that foul should have been scored...)
The way I see it, he should have beat Byrd, but when he lost to Ruiz, he wouldn't have been champ anyway (we can argue he wouldn't have defended against another beltholder, but the point is, his 12 rounds against Byrd weren't good enough to impress the judges.) After the whooping Kali Meehan put on Lamon Brewster only to lose the decision, what does Golota have to do to get a decision?
He needs a clean KO in the Brewster fight.
Truth 02-05-2005, 09:18 AM The Tyson quitter gets a (controversial) draw with Byrd.
He loses to John "John" Ruiz.
And now he's up against Brewster.
What will they do, just keep putting him up time and again until he bores someone into submission?
Yeah but you can argue he beat Ruiz and Byrd, so I think he does deserve another chance at a title.
The Phantom Menace 02-05-2005, 01:08 PM maybe he just wasn't meant to be a champion.
enadeus 02-05-2005, 01:22 PM Toney is a scrub, he can't beat any real heavyweight boxer.
PacKillsMorales 02-05-2005, 01:32 PM Toney is a scrub, he can't beat any real heavyweight boxer.
and this is based on what exactly?
hes only had a few heavyweight fights.
give the guy a chance. :rolleyes:
!! Anorak 02-05-2005, 04:25 PM and this is based on what exactly?
hes only had a few heavyweight fights.
give the guy a chance. :rolleyes: Yeah, anyone can quit after two rounds or hit his opponent in the nuts repeatedly - give the guy a break.
enadeus 02-05-2005, 06:18 PM Golota is the best fighter on Don Kings roster, and he knows it.
!! Anorak 02-05-2005, 06:46 PM Golota is the best fighter on Don Kings rosterWow, he's that good?
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 02-05-2005, 06:57 PM I thought it was a close fight with byrd and i had byrd by a couple of points.
I didnt see his fight with Ruiz, just the thought of Ruiz hugging Golota all night made me sleepy.
But Golota looked pretty good against Byrd even though he lost. I think he give Vitali a good Fight and thats who they should put him in against.
paulmmv 02-05-2005, 07:01 PM golota really should of won both of thoses fights against byrd and ruiz
and i think he going to knock out Brewster within 10 rounds
boxernyc 02-05-2005, 07:29 PM I can't believe I am actually saying this but I agree that Golota will most likely be holding a belt at the end of that fight. Brewster's nickname of relentless should be unstoppable. He can take a beating as was proved by the entire fight with Vlad before the vasaline in the legs finally took its toll. I think Golota will overpower the sparse punching Brewster and win a decision.
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