View Full Version : southpaw or orthodox?


realheavyhands
10-04-2004, 12:19 PM
what happens when you can fight from both southpaw and orthodox with devestating power.. do you put your power hand out in front if your orthodox already.. i know tyson and frazier switched TO orthodox...i heard tyson used to switch up sometime

elveiel
10-04-2004, 01:40 PM
what happens when you can fight from both southpaw and orthodox with devestating power..

Lots of fighters can fight both ways but i have never seen anyone switch hit like me.

I have watched fighters like Hagler, Cotto, Witter etc who can fight either way just as easy as each other but when you constantly switch it gives you a huge advantage against you opponents.

It helps me a lot because I can punch(KO) with with either hand, if you have KO power yourself you would really notice the diffenence cutting the corners off etc, you can make your opponent look like a fool! :D

southpaw13
10-05-2004, 05:13 PM
being able to switch up always is a plus--it is a great tool when someone is constantly worrying about your right hand--

jack_the_rippuh
10-19-2004, 05:33 PM
I am naturally right handed...but I find it hard to move in the orthodox stance, so I fight southpaw. I got power in both hands, but I like standing southpaw...because I like to move..

elveiel
10-19-2004, 10:28 PM
I am naturally right handed...but I find it hard to move in the orthodox stance, so I fight southpaw. I got power in both hands, but I like standing southpaw...because I like to move..

I was orthadox for a while, i just thought **** it i wanna be a switch hitter. Its all mental, if you can imagine doing it then its easy.

People are shocked at how good of a switch hitter i am, you should try it.

jabsRstiff
10-20-2004, 07:18 AM
Marvin Hagler is the ONLY fighter who switched up effectively on a consistent basis.
He did so more efoortlessly than any other fighterin history.


Most guys try it, & it makes no difference.

I'd advise most young fighters to avoid doing this.

spinksjinx
10-20-2004, 08:29 AM
I started shadowboxing orthodox and got bored with it so I decided to switch up my gameplan and try southpaw....At first it was horrid and I felt uncoordinated, I even tried it on the heavy bag...I felt I had no power but as I practiced I now hit as hard as I do in the orthodox position....When shadowboxing I like to switch it up...I do a lot of foot movement in my shadowboxing and I will go one side orthodox and turn and go southpaw the next...By doing so it has really helped me gain a bit of speed as well...Im much faster now that I incorporated both and can do both pretty well.....

I would learn both.

puppy_dogg
10-20-2004, 08:34 AM
shadowboxing and fighting are alot different. have you tried it in sparring yet? its pretty difficult to do well.

spinksjinx
10-20-2004, 09:02 AM
shadowboxing and fighting are alot different. have you tried it in sparring yet? its pretty difficult to do well.


Not yet, But im confident that I will have no trouble...I like to move A LOT!...Im naturally left handed but I do all things right w/ the exception of writing....This may give me a bit of an advantage.....

elveiel
10-20-2004, 09:09 AM
Marvin Hagler is the ONLY fighter who switched up effectively on a consistent basis.
He did so more efoortlessly than any other fighterin history.


Most guys try it, & it makes no difference.

I'd advise most young fighters to avoid doing this.

I advise young fighters to do it.

How can being able to switch be a disadvantage??

just because marv was the only great fighter to do it often doesnt mean ****. alot of old coaches advise against, so fighters dont do it(that will change).

My new coach told me not to switch, he didnt like me switching on the bag, shadow boxing etc when i first went to a new club. I showed him it in action and i give his best heavys hell. He loves the fact i switch hit now.

Lots of pro's can and do switch hit, Junior Witter, Naz, Cotto etc the list does on.

If switch hitting doesnt work for you then fine but it give me a great advantage.

spinksjinx
10-20-2004, 09:16 AM
I advise young fighters to do it.

How can being able to switch be a disadvantage??

just because marv was the only great fighter to do it often doesnt mean ****. alot of old coaches advise against, so fighters dont do it(that will change).

My new coach told me not to switch, he didnt like me switching on the bag, shadow boxing etc when i first went to a new club. I showed him it in action and i give his best heavys hell. He loves the fact i switch hit now.

Lots of pro's can and do switch hit, Junior Witter, Naz, Cotto etc the list does on.

If switch hitting doesnt work for you then fine but it give me a great advantage.


I totally agree, I dont see why someone would be against it...It makes you more complex and most boxers are simple minded....Hitting someone with an orthodox jab and then switching and giving a southpaw hook would confuse the hell out of a lot of people.....

Cotto switches nicely, with no flaws in defense which is pretty damn good.

elveiel
10-20-2004, 09:42 AM
I totally agree, I dont see why someone would be against it...It makes you more complex and most boxers are simple minded....Hitting someone with an orthodox jab and then switching and giving a southpaw hook would confuse the hell out of a lot of people.....

Cotto switches nicely, with no flaws in defense which is pretty damn good.

Yeah, when you start sparring its advisable to limit switching to the outside only, if you switch on the inside wrong theres a chance of getting caught. its never happend to me but i was always aware of the danger.

I find switching helps a lot, i have power in both hands but its different types of power. My right is a quick KO power and my left is hurtful strength. so i normally start the round in orthadox, lands some heavy jabs and left hooks and as soon as i see a opening or they back up i cant stop switch hitting! As soon as they back up, being able to switch lets you cut the corners off quicker and you can get every shot off with power.

The best thing is most boxers learn to defend against a orthadoz fighter, they struggle with southpaws so imagine how bad they struggle if you switch hit! :D

spinksjinx
10-20-2004, 10:15 AM
Yeah, when you start sparring its advisable to limit switching to the outside only, if you switch on the inside wrong theres a chance of getting caught. its never happend to me but i was always aware of the danger.

I find switching helps a lot, i have power in both hands but its different types of power. My right is a quick KO power and my left is hurtful strength. so i normally start the round in orthadox, lands some heavy jabs and left hooks and as soon as i see a opening or they back up i cant stop switch hitting! As soon as they back up, being able to switch lets you cut the corners off quicker and you can get every shot off with power.

The best thing is most boxers learn to defend against a orthadoz fighter, they struggle with southpaws so imagine how bad they struggle if you switch hit! :D


Ohh yeah switching while inside would be an amateurish move....When switching it is best to keep moving and back up and then come forward w/ the switch......

elveiel
10-20-2004, 10:36 AM
Ohh yeah switching while inside would be an amateurish move....When switching it is best to keep moving and back up and then come forward w/ the switch......

You can switch all you want at the right time, i switch on the inside if there body langauge suggests i can.

Me and my coach were working switching whilst backing up like you said but i dont normally back up even if it is to switch, i notice Junior Witter doing that a lot. I normally stick a jab on them to give me enough room to switch. i do back out to give myself a small break a lot, sometimes a little walk around the ring helps.

chilly9876
10-20-2004, 12:28 PM
spinx im like you,i do everything with my right except for writing,i do that with left...i think it gives a good advantage and im also practising effective switch hitting.
eleviel whats your amateur fight record if you have one?

elveiel
10-20-2004, 01:09 PM
spinx im like you,i do everything with my right except for writing,i do that with left...i think it gives a good advantage and im also practising effective switch hitting.
eleviel whats your amateur fight record if you have one?

I quit a while ago but i'm certain its 17-0(15).

I quit bouts about 3 years ago because i beat on some thugs who attacked me, courts would have used it against me so my solicitor advised me to quit. I do a lot of sparring now and i'm probably gonna get my license/insurance back so i can start again.