the both of them ****in suck...

IMO I think Andre will do good.

Ward looked good last night, and lets not forget he has 9 fights. You have more of a point with JCC jr.

then again JCC Jr. hasn't even grown chest hairs yet...give him time

No Andre Ward looked good. As PBF34 said. He has only had 9 fights. He will improve. ALOT! He's been rocked already. People who know how it feels to be rocked is good in a way. So when it happens again they know the moment. Unless they get hit in the right spot where they would just not get up.

but man he is at least old as vargas and vargas was doing big things... and then floyd when he was wards age , he was making fights look horrible and make the **** funny ... ward is wack ... and i hate when i go to the barbershop that all i hear about is andre ward on the come up...lol yea right... we will see...i bet there are people on he board that can take the both of them right now ..

I didn't like what I saw from Ward until last night. His jab was sharp and stiff, he waited for his shots and intelligently picked them. His technique looked good in the early going too. He really dismantled that kid and gave a good account of himself.

He did fall apart a bit at the end though and showed himself to be over-anxious. He was lunging and slipping trying to land the home run right at one point.

andre is fighting good opposition even he have only 9 fights.dont compare him to chavez jr...JCC jr. should be on menudo and not in boxing.

JCC jr. is crap,no doubt he will have a surpise when he steps up no matter how old he is. And it's worst this way because the more years you fight bums the worst you'll get beat when you step up.
Now for Ward he doesnt have power at all and when pressured he has been dropped and hurt. I dont think he will make it even out of round 1 with anyone that has a good chin and a hard punch. But his skills are good and he's new in the game so i think he will just improve and improve but that whole "not dealing with pressure well" thing is gonna kill him unless he learns to box away from it and not get aggressive and get into a war with his chin the way it is.

^^^ very well put ...

dont be mad mann... he's still on the come up mann....

Let's not forget that Ward got caught with perfect shots against Boone, when he went down, and against Kost. Many people would have go down after those punches so it's not necessary that Andre's chin is that bad. It may look like that right now but it's not a fact. And if Ward fights like yesterday and doesn't tries to copy the Prime-RJJ-Style to much then he is damn hard to hit with a perfect shot. And it's also a good experience for a young kid like Andre, he is at an age where you can handle such things easier and improve more out of your mistakes. Beside this he also showed that he is already very good in covering up, knows how to clinch and to keep his opponent off after being hurt. That's not bad for a guy with just nine pro bouts (yeah.. he has a lot amateur experience but we all know how big the difference between the pro and the amateur game is). He also has great talent, is damn fast and has good reflexes. His balance is not that good mostly and it seems like he doesn't have that much power but let this kid time to improve. He is young, hungry and talented but he lacks the experience in some situations and you need to give him his time to get that experience. Many other great fighters went down and had there problems in there early careers and still became great. So like I said, it's probably good that he learns what a lil mistake can result in right now and not later when it's probably too late to improve. In my opinion his management should take him Off-Tv and let him fight on smaller events and once a month to get experience. I believe that Andre can become a recognized world champion, even a 'Superstar' but this takes time and he has this time and he should use it. He has the skills to make it and he is for sure not a bad fighter, no, he is just a fighter at the beginning of his career which could be a very good one. On the other site, for sure, he could get exposed and knocked out soon and his career would end even without a title but hey.. I don't believe that it will go this way.

Let's not forget that Ward got caught with perfect shots against Boone, when he went down, and against Kost. Many people would have go down after those punches so it's not necessary that Andre's chin is that bad. It may look like that right now but it's not a fact. And if Ward fights like yesterday and doesn't tries to copy the Prime-RJJ-Style to much then he is damn hard to hit with a perfect shot. And it's also a good experience for a young kid like Andre, he is at an age where you can handle such things easier and improve more out of your mistakes. Beside this he also showed that he is already very good in covering up, knows how to clinch and to keep his opponent off after being hurt. That's not bad for a guy with just nine pro bouts (yeah.. he has a lot amateur experience but we all know how big the difference between the pro and the amateur game is). He also has great talent, is damn fast and has good reflexes. His balance is not that good mostly and it seems like he doesn't have that much power but let this kid time to improve. He is young, hungry and talented but he lacks the experience in some situations and you need to give him his time to get that experience. Many other great fighters went down and had there problems in there early careers and still became great. So like I said, it's probably good that he learns what a lil mistake can result in right now and not later when it's probably too late to improve. In my opinion his management should take him Off-Tv and let him fight on smaller events and once a month to get experience. I believe that Andre can become a recognized world champion, even a 'Superstar' but this takes time and he has this time and he should use it. He has the skills to make it and he is for sure not a bad fighter, no, he is just a fighter at the beginning of his career which could be a very good one. On the other site, for sure, he could get exposed and knocked out soon and his career would end even without a title but hey.. I don't believe that it will go this way.
I agree both of their problems are that Andre has been trying to fight like a prime roy jones and he's not fast enough to use that fighting style. Actually I believe when mayweather fought Corley and got nailed his uncle roger told him to stop trying to fight like roy. You have to have other worldly reflexes to use that style. As for JJC Jr. his main problem has been that he has been trying to fight like his dad when his body doesnt fit that style.

i think ward looks good. his style is like bhop in his mid career. hope he does well

Its too early to tell about both....