I had it 115:113 for Freitas.


I was hoping Raheem would make Freitas quit, but both figthers did well.

anyone? ....

7 rounds to 4 one even for Raheem. I think it was the 7th that I had even which was the best round of the fight. Raheem landed a nice right in that round.

114-114 not alot going on.

7 rounds to 4 one even for Raheem. I think it was the 7th that I had even which was the best round of the fight. Raheem landed a nice right in that round.

I had round 3 even.

115-113 in favor of Zahir Raheem.

115:113 Raheem

114 - 114....Raheem's style in this fight let him down...

116-112 Raheem.

Freitas by two or 3 rounds. Maybe more.

114-114 even. Raheem didn't start til the 6th round and stopped during the 11th. Freitas took the first 5 rounds and the 12th on my card.

115-113 Freitas on effective aggresion and not looking ugly like Raheem's style, plus he deserved at least one of those KDs on Raheem :cool:

Raheem's balance is ****ing pathetic at best. Worse than Forrest's.

sooner or later fighters are going to learn that when you lose the first 4-5 rounds, you've already lost the fight and need a knockout or at least knockdowns to get back in it. Raheem is a moron

115-113 Freitas

114:114 They fought like heavy weights.. its 135 lbs for christ sake let the hands go!

Raheem's balance is ****ing pathetic at best. Worse than Forrest's.

bro.. i never come at any1 in this forum like this but damn man, u really need to shut the **** up.

u critize way to much and its not even contructive critizism..

115-113 raheem.. basically a chess match. raheem landed the better punches..

bro.. i never come at any1 in this forum like this but damn man, u really need to shut the **** up.

u critize way to much and its not even contructive critizism..

115-113 raheem.. basically a chess match. raheem landed the better punches..

I can't stand fighters that constantly go down because when they finally do go down from a punch, it's assumed to be a slip. See Spinks vs. Mayorga, especially the 12th round. If your balance sucks and you constantly go down, of course you're going to lose rounds and have no room to complain when you lose the decision.

The way I saw it

Round 1 - Sucked
Round 2 - Sucked
Round 3 - Sucked
Round 4 - Sucked
Round 5 - Sucked
Round 6 - Sucked
Round 7 - Sucked
Round 8 - Sucked
Round 9 - Sucked
Round 10 - Really Sucked
Round 11 - Sucked
Round 12 - Sucked

117-115 Don't care, they both sucked

im sure they give of f u ck watch you think :rolleyes:

The way I saw it

Round 1 - Sucked
Round 2 - Sucked
Round 3 - Sucked
Round 4 - Sucked
Round 5 - Sucked
Round 6 - Sucked
Round 7 - Sucked
Round 8 - Sucked
Round 9 - Sucked
Round 10 - Really Sucked
Round 11 - Sucked
Round 12 - Sucked

117-115 Don't care, they both sucked

that's a lot of sucks!

that's a lot of sucks!

It really sucked

I had Frietas winning by 3 rounds! He deserved it!

Who wants to fight this guy Raheem.....he's just so clumsy. Props to Popo for taking it!

im sure they give of f u ck watch you think :rolleyes:

About as much as I care about what your lameass thinks

I had it for Freitas 115 -113, man Raheem lunges in throwing one or two punches then holds on..

i had it for freitas 115-113. typical hometown decision

Oh man there styles clash worse than Margarito vs. Santos.
There was so much holding, at first i thought it was Raheems fault, but after a while both were holding a lot. It was a close fight and i thought Raheem won the last six rounds, but i was glad Freitas got the nod. :D

I didn't score it but I thought that it was an even fight. Freitas was the aggressor most of the time but he usually missed his overhand right that he was trying to land the whole fight. I certainly wouldn't say that Freitas stalked Raheem though as neither man really wanted to fight inside. Freitas often lunged in, either missing and tying up or else landing 1 shot and tying up. It was frustrating to watch. There were very few combinations and most of the punches were missing the target. Raheem tried to counterpunch but was only successful sporadically. There were many clinches and both men were at fault most of the time. Honestly I think that a draw was the proper result.

115-113 for Raheem

I had Frietas winning by 3 rounds! He deserved it!

Who wants to fight this guy Raheem.....he's just so clumsy. Props to Popo for taking it!

how about Bobby PAC wearing his sliding shoes that he wear against navarro??? LOL

i really though Raheem will bring an A-game but reading most comments here it was not ...

It's all about $$$$ Looks to be a rematch. perhaps pfv. What else is new? ;)

Well Raheem is the nicest dirty fighter I have seen. Zahir is just a nice guy but he fought on the edge of a being DQ. I would have deducted a point when he threw Freitas down.

Raheem really did deserve a Draw or a win in this fight if it is was a FIGHT but this is BOXING not a pushing, shoving, leaning, holding, and tackling match. Freitas tried to box and box and box while Raheem did everything... did everything as nonconforming as he could and not get a DQ. Raheem did WIN the pushing, shoving, leaning, holding, and tackling match but he LOST in the traditional Boxing part.

I am not sure if Zahir's crown is just for fun but I have negative feelings about it. I tried to ignore the crown but I have to say I would love to take that crown and smash it. Not sure why the crown is so annoying but maybe that is part of why he lost so hard on the one judges card. Its almost like he would rather wear his crown than have the belt. The robes and all are ok and a smaller crown would work but that huge fall over my face crown is a little much.

115-113 for Freitas, plus Raheem fought like a bich

Raheem won the fight, but did fight like a *****.

I thought Raheem looked very cautious and fought like he was scared to get hit. I thought Raheem would win the fight based on punch stats, but am glad the fight went to Frietas because Raheem fought like a ***** . I'm glad Popo got the decision. I hope Raheem makes better fights though and hope to see him againts big names. I think Raheem deserves a shot. He seems like a good man.

I thought Raheem looked very cautious and fought like he was scared to get hit. I thought Raheem would win the fight based on punch stats, but am glad the fight went to Frietas because Raheem fought like a ***** . I'm glad Popo got the decision. I hope Raheem makes better fights though and hope to see him againts big names. I think Raheem deserves a shot. He seems like a good man.

He also deserves a shot because he won the fight.

it was very tough to score
after a few rounds of scoring the fight,
i didnt give a **** anymore, i didn't care who won

Raheem landed the mo quality punches and have him winning. 2 Rounds different fo me.

Raheem landed the mo quality punches and have him winning. 2 Rounds different fo me.


Fretas landed better punches numerous times. I thought if Raheem were not holding, Freitas would have KD or even KO him.

i think raheem should have won.
but he didn't deserve it, neither of them did.

Fretas landed better punches numerous times. I thought if Raheem were not holding, Freitas would have KD or even KO him.
No way. Raheem dint even get bopthered wit Freitas punches. Raheem's right hands definitely did mo damage. It's not even an opinion now. Watch the fight again if you need to.

Raheem landed the cleaner, significant punches. He snapped Freirtas neck many times too.

i scored it an even who gives a fuk for both frietas n raheem
but either one could have easily taken the entire who gives a fuk

I had it 115:113 for Freitas.


I was hoping Raheem would make Freitas quit, but both figthers did well.

Same as me Nautilus. Raheems bend, squat, and hug 'style' does little more than irritate me. He had Freitas around the knees far too much, especially since his arms arent supposed to be anywhere near there! I actually said OUT LOUD (no drugs involved, I swear :D) that I'd rather watch Ruiz fight...thats just how bad it was. Lol, does he actually call that mess a "style"?? :confused: The ref. didnt have control of his ring for a single round of that fight, and hearing him tell Raheem to "stand up" got on my nerves, when thats all he would say. Annoying.

No way. Raheem dint even get bopthered wit Freitas punches. Raheem's right hands definitely did mo damage. It's not even an opinion now. Watch the fight again if you need to.

Raheem landed the cleaner, significant punches. He snapped Freirtas neck many times too.

I disagree, i think Freitas landed the bigger punches, but raheem controlled the pace of the fight and landed more shots.

some people here dont know how to watch fights seriously. Freitas' head was snapping back n forth while Raheem dint even get bothered wit Freitas' punches.

I dont know how anybody can argue for Raheems boring ass style!!! he has the same ruiz style but with way worser balance. I think freitas hurt raheem more but it was a close fight raheem fought real scared he showed way to much respect for freitas power by holding so much.

I dont know how anybody can argue for Raheems boring ass style!!! he has the same ruiz style but with way worser balance. I think freitas hurt raheem more but it was a close fight raheem fought real scared he showed way to much respect for freitas power by holding so much.

True, Raheem acted terrified of getting hit

Raheem terrified of gettin hit while he landed mo punches, and mo power punches than Freitas did? That contradicts tthis statement to begin wit. Pls watch boxing wit unbias eye. Thanks. :D!

Raheem terrified of gettin hit while he landed mo punches, and mo power punches than Freitas did? That contradicts tthis statement to begin wit. Pls watch boxing wit unbias eye. Thanks. :D!

Bias cause I disagree with you? I dislike Freitas, very much. I'd think that considering the type of fighters you claim to like, Raheems chicken **** bend-squat and hug routine would have had you dissing him in a major way. Just because you disagree, doesnt mean youre right.

Bias cause I disagree with you? I dislike Freitas, very much. I'd think that considering the type of fighters you claim to like, Raheems chicken **** bend-squat and hug routine would have had you dissing him in a major way. Just because you disagree, doesnt mean youre right.

no reason to diss Raheem. He went in there and did whateva he could to win. he hurt Freitas plenty times and landed many clean shots and that Freitas staggerin. He took Freitas punches like nothing too.

I concede that Raheem's style is awkward in this fight, but he did enough to win. He was robbed basically. But it's like a kid takin anotha kid's lunch in school. It wasn't an outrageous robbery :D!




YOU'RE BIAS cuz RAHEEM WHOMPED MORALES EMBARRISNGLY and you hate him fo it. Done!

Bias cause I disagree with you? I dislike Freitas, very much. I'd think that considering the type of fighters you claim to like, Raheems chicken **** bend-squat and hug routine would have had you dissing him in a major way. Just because you disagree, doesnt mean youre right.
I agree with you 100% i cant beleave he's making such a case for raheem is not like he won a clear fight! how can you be a paquiao fan and a raheem fan it just dont mix raheems style is booring and bad for boxing!!! I had some freinds over and they walked outside to smoke and drink because they said raheem was booring and scary!

I agree with you 100% i cant beleave he's making such a case for raheem is not like he won a clear fight! how can you be a paquiao fan and a raheem fan it just dont mix raheems style is booring and bad for boxing!!! I had some freinds over and they walked outside to smoke and drink because they said raheem was booring and scary!

I'm a boxing fan homie. I watch fight wit an unbias eye. You and tracy are bias becuz of the fact that Raheem whomped Morales' ass throughly and you hatin on Raheem's game now.

Those friends of yours aint boxing fans. Tell em they should just watch the playoffs man.

I agree with you 100% i cant beleave he's making such a case for raheem is not like he won a clear fight! how can you be a paquiao fan and a raheem fan it just dont mix raheems style is booring and bad for boxing!!! I had some freinds over and they walked outside to smoke and drink because they said raheem was booring and scary!

It's incredibly easy to see why nobody wants to fight him, and last night did nothing to help him out in that regard. Lol, there were so many slips, etc. that had nothing to do with boxing, although I thought that second (or maybe third?) knockdown was legit, and Freitas should have gotten credit for it. Not to mention a pt. for the throw down Raheem put on him, like HE had any reason to be frustrated! :eek:

I'm a boxing fan homie. I watch fight wit an unbias eye. You and tracy are bias becuz of the fact that Raheem whomped Morales' ass throughly and you hatin on Raheem's game now.

Those friends of yours aint boxing fans. Tell em they should just watch the playoffs man.


Ooohhh, okay...so glad you pointed it out, cause it never entered my mind. :rolleyes: Face it Manny, you are clueless as to why I think what I think about any given fight..youre just not that talented. Youre talking about a fight where I didnt give a damn who won..it really didnt matter. One came to fight, the other came to do whatever the hell it was that Raheem was doing.

no reason to diss Raheem. He went in there and did whateva he could to win. he hurt Freitas plenty times and landed many clean shots and that Freitas staggerin. He took Freitas punches like nothing too.

I concede that Raheem's style is awkward in this fight, but he did enough to win. He was robbed basically. But it's like a kid takin anotha kid's lunch in school. It wasn't an outrageous robbery :D!




YOU'RE BIAS cuz RAHEEM WHOMPED MORALES EMBARRISNGLY and you hate him fo it. Done!

sigh, dont know why I bother to debate with you...not when you refuse to believe that my opinion isnt always wrong cause it differes from yours, or when you think you know my every thought..thats annoying as hell too.

I'm a boxing fan homie. I watch fight wit an unbias eye. You and tracy are bias becuz of the fact that Raheem whomped Morales' ass throughly and you hatin on Raheem's game now.

Those friends of yours aint boxing fans. Tell em they should just watch the playoffs man.
I'm going to have top call bull**** on this one because i think your the one thats over here trying so hard to back him up because he beat morales and we all know how you like to root for the one fighting the mexican guy!!!But you know why your dead wrong!!! because Mayweather beat Castillo, Corrales and chavez and their all mexicans that i like and i Allways watch Mayweahter fight. ****!! i just spent a couple hudred dollars when i went to watch the Mayweather vs Judah fight live. so your wrong. And about my freinds i know their not die hard fans like me but i'm trying to make them be!! because i want the sport of boxing to be as big as basketball and football or even bigger.

you said Raheem was terrified of gettin hit and I said "how could he be? He landed mo punches than Freitas did".


tracy, don't fear ma debating skills. I'm here to educate. :D!!!!!!!

I'm going to have top call bull**** on this one because i think your the one thats over here trying so hard to back him up because he beat morales and we all know how you like to root for the one fighting the mexican guy!!!But you know why your dead wrong!!! because Mayweather beat Castillo, Corrales and chavez and their all mexicans that i like and i Allways watch Mayweahter fight. ****!! i just spent a couple hudred dollars when i went to watch the Mayweather vs Judah fight live. so your wrong. And about my freinds i know their not die hard fans like me but i'm trying to make them be!! because i want the sport of boxing to be as big as basketball and football or even bigger.

and raheems style is not going to attract new fans...no way, no how. I dont blame them for not watching..I almost gave it up myself.

you said Raheem was terrified of gettin hit and I said "how could he be? He landed mo punches than Freitas did".


tracy, don't fear ma debating skills. I'm here to educate. :D!!!!!!!


If I have to point out to you just what he did that showed he was being overly cautious, YOU need to watch it again. Btw, refusing to consider anyones views but your own, and telling others that you kow why they think what they think is not a "skill", and youre educating no one.

I'm going to have top call bull**** on this one because i think your the one thats over here trying so hard to back him up because he beat morales and we all know how you like to root for the one fighting the mexican guy!!!But you know why your dead wrong!!! because Mayweather beat Castillo, Corrales and chavez and their all mexicans that i like and i Allways watch Mayweahter fight. ****!! i just spent a couple hudred dollars when i went to watch the Mayweather vs Judah fight live. so your wrong. And about my freinds i know their not die hard fans like me but i'm trying to make them be!! because i want the sport of boxing to be as big as basketball and football or even bigger.

Nah man. I don't even hate Morales and there a few Mexican fightas out there that gets ma props. I don't hate boxers becuz of what ethnicity they are. I like many different boxers from different weight classes.

and I agree. Boxing kicks ass betta than Ballin or football. Enough of them groupie ass team games. Sick of it.

The way I saw it

Round 1 - Sucked
Round 2 - Sucked
Round 3 - Sucked
Round 4 - Sucked
Round 5 - Sucked
Round 6 - Sucked
Round 7 - Sucked
Round 8 - Sucked
Round 9 - Sucked
Round 10 - Really Sucked
Round 11 - Sucked
Round 12 - Sucked

117-115 Don't care, they both sucked


lol, good k sent

If I have to point out to you just what he did that showed he was being overly cautious, YOU need to watch it again. Btw, refusing to consider anyones views but your own, and telling others that you kow why they think what they think is not a "skill", and youre educating no one.

tracy sayin, "Raheed acted Terrfified" ISN'T an opinion eitha like you claim it was of yours. You said as if it was a fact and I just try to debate it. :D

I had it 7 rds to 5 rds in favor of Raheem. Raheem was robbed. Worst case scenario the fight would have been a draw. Freitas did not land enough clean shots IMO. i dont buy that "busier" fither crap.

there was a lot of holding by Freitas that was made to look like Raheem was doing it. And him holding in the round he was thrown down was BS, dude would not let go. And he spit that mouth piece out to gather himself.

I had it 7 rds to 5 rds in favor of Raheem. Raheem was robbed. Worst case scenario the fight would have been a draw. Freitas did not land enough clean shots IMO. i dont buy that "busier" fither crap.

Yup I agree huned percent! That's ma vew too.

tracy sayin, "Raheed acted Terrfified" ISN'T an opinion eitha like you claim it was of yours. You said as if it was a fact and I just try to debate it. :D

he did act terrified, and i'm not the only one that pointed that out. Rushing in to wrap your arms around your opponets waist isnt boxing...hugging like hell (even grabbed the ropes a time or two when he was clinching freitas) when someone is hitting you..thats fear and/or a sign of being hurt...something you claim raheem never was.

Raheem only landed like 6 more punches than Freitas and you can't really make a case for Raheem winning 2 of the first 6. So he's already down 4 with only 6 rounds left. I gave him 7 through 10, thought he lost the 11th, and gave him the 12th although that may be the worst round I've ever seen fought as a 12th and final round

I had it 7 rds to 5 rds in favor of Raheem. Raheem was robbed. Worst case scenario the fight would have been a draw. Freitas did not land enough clean shots IMO. i dont buy that "busier" fither crap.

there was a lot of holding by Freitas that was made to look like Raheem was doing it. And him holding in the round he was thrown down was BS, dude would not let go. And he spit that mouth piece out to gather himself.

7 rounds to 5 for one guy doesn't translate to a robbery dude. That means you saw two rounds difference from a Freitas victory. Hardly a robbery. I don't see how anyone could have Freitas winning 8 rounds though (that judge sucked). If Freitas won the 12th round, then he definitely won the fight. So it depends how you score that round.

I found Raheem's performance very disappointing. Clearly this was his fight to win, although neither man really stepped up and took charge. I just felt Raheem was acting girly and losing a lot of close rounds. I scored it 8 rounds to 3 and 1 even for Freitas, 117-112 in other words.

I think it's funny when you idiots come on here saying it was 7-5 (as close as a fight can get) and yet your guy was robbed.

Quit cryin'.

114-114 draw...

1 Freitas
2 Raheem
3 Freitas
4 Freitas
5 Raheem
6 Raheem
7 Freitas
8 Raheem
9 Raheem
10 Raheem
11 Freitas
12 Freitas

I think it's funny when you idiots come on here saying it was 7-5 (as close as a fight can get) and yet your guy was robbed.

Quit cryin'.

no ****. 7-5 is in no way a robbery. I believe Tarver got a draw against Roy in their first fight, but I've never called that a robbery. It was bad the margins Roy won by on the cards he won, but hey, it was a close fight. If you win 8 rounds and lose the decision, THEN you can call robbery. 7 rounds to 5 a robbery? Pff

116-112 Freitas.

115-113 Raheem. Look at the punch stats. Popo got worked.

117-112 for raheem, 8-3-1 even, this was a robbery in my opinion, Im far from being a raheem fan im still mad about the whoopin he put on my boy erik morales, but **** how can anyone give somebody a victory who didnt do ****, all those punchs they counted for frietas must have been when they were in a clinch cause i dont see none of that, his head was gettin snapped back wit cleaner harder shots all night, and raheem landed the hard punch of the night that had frietas ready to go, and its funny how everybody that was praisin raheems style after he beat erik is now saying hes ****ty and that nobody wants to see him fight, bull****, hes def top 3 lightweights in the world, styles make fights.

The way I saw it

Round 1 - Sucked
Round 2 - Sucked
Round 3 - Sucked
Round 4 - Sucked
Round 5 - Sucked
Round 6 - Sucked
Round 7 - Sucked
Round 8 - Sucked
Round 9 - Sucked
Round 10 - Really Sucked
Round 11 - Sucked
Round 12 - Sucked

117-115 Don't care, they both sucked


BWAHAHAHA!

This is the only fight where both fighters turned the ropes into a trampoline.

And the commentators....well, they had not much to say. Which...in a way, is a good thing coz Larry Merchant takes 40 seconds to finish saying 10 words.

7 rounds to 5 for one guy doesn't translate to a robbery dude. That means you saw two rounds difference from a Freitas victory. Hardly a robbery. I don't see how anyone could have Freitas winning 8 rounds though (that judge sucked). If Freitas won the 12th round, then he definitely won the fight. So it depends how you score that round.

to me, robbery is anytime a bout is scored improperly. just my opinion.

I quit keeping score after the 8th or so because I was frustrated with the close rounds..........I think a draw or a 115-113 win for eother fighter is acceptable.

This fight was an absolute nightmare. It's a shame, because it was very intriguing, going in.
A draw would have been perfect.....as neither deserved a win.

Damn I TIVO'd the fight, but it looks like it will get deleted without a viewing.

it was a very close but boring fight
I could see it going either way, even tho one of the kd looked legit to me, I think it would have been a draw

it was a very close but boring fight
I could see it going either way, even tho one of the kd looked legit to me, I think it would have been a draw

Freitas definately earned a pt. on the 2nd or 3rd kd. Guess by that time the ref. was getting used to the acrobatics and chalked it up to just another one of those. :D

This fight was an absolute nightmare. It's a shame, because it was very intriguing, going in.
A draw would have been perfect.....as neither deserved a win.

I agree. I scored it as such. It was one of the worst fights I can ever recall watching. Just criminal to watch. My house was full of non-boxing fans and they were laughing the whole 12 rounds. Very bad for boxing.

This was horrible fight, thanks to Raheem! I had it a draw, but POPO deserved the win, if you ask me. Raheem deserved to lose, becuase he was fighting like the great Ruiz. I have no problem with POPO winning this fight.

Also the HBO compubox was off once again by a mile. :rolleyes:

116-112 Freitas.

115-113 raheem

This was horrible fight, thanks to Raheem! I had it a draw, but POPO deserved the win, if you ask me. Raheem deserved to lose, becuase he was fighting like the great Ruiz. I have no problem with POPO winning this fight.

Also the HBO compubox was off once again by a mile. :rolleyes:

great minds think alike. this post is spot on

I had it 115-113 Raheem... Freitas was definitely the agressor, but didn't land the cleaner shots. I thought Raheem clearly won the fight..