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i have a feeling that floyd wont be with top rank much longer. if floyd fights and beats dlh i bet he will join with goldenboy.

The fact is, he wants that september date with oscar that may never come again.

Will Floyd make more than 8 million fighting DLH?

Boooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Will Floyd make more than 8 million fighting DLH?


i wouldnt doubt it.

Will Floyd make more than 8 million fighting DLH?

he would probably make 10 or 15. Floyd's money grubbing is pissing me off.

he would probably make 10 or 15. Floyd's money grubbing is pissing me off.


Its not pissing me off...why make 8 mil when you can have 10 or 15, that extra 2 mil means alot, especially after taxes, this is the nature of the buisness. Personally, i dont wanna see the fight with margarito. I would much rather see DLH or Hatton frankly.

Its not pissing me off...why make 8 mil when you can have 10 or 15, that extra 2 mil means alot, especially after taxes, this is the nature of the buisness. Personally, i dont wanna see the fight with margarito. I would much rather see DLH or Hatton frankly.

So would i, but its unlikely those fights will happen unless floyd gets his head straight and realizes hes not going to get 75/25 with ricky.

I think DLH will command the lion's share of the purse if he were to fight PBF. I dont think ebough revenue would be generated to gurantee PBF 8 million while still giving DLH the majority of the money.

So would i, but its unlikely those fights will happen unless floyd gets his head straight and realizes hes not going to get 75/25 with ricky.

Theyll happen, when push comes to shove, floyd will come to terms one way or the other with big name fighters. Judah is a big name, even if people cant stand his ass, Margarito isnt, the win against judah will ALWAYS be bigger than if he fought and beat Margarito.

I think DLH will command the lion's share of the purse if he were to fight PBF. I dont think ebough revenue would be generated to gurantee PBF 8 million while still giving DLH the majority of the money.

When oscar fights, people watch. Lots of money will be made from this fight.

as much as id like to see floyd vs dlh, the fight means nothing. if floyd wins, whoopie, people say dlh was past prime and it doesnt do anything to advance floyd's rep. dlh wins, then we have our shining star's record blemished and the golden boy retires.

id rather see floyd vs hatton any day.

When oscar fights, people watch. Lots of money will be made from this fight.

I agree but will enough watch that would gurantee PBF more than 8 million dollars while still paying DLH 15?

I honestly dont give a ****e. Floyd will have to fight one of these guys eventually and both fights promise to be exciting.

:lame: :thumbsdow :nonono:

no surprise from floyd

I agree but will enough watch that would gurantee PBF more than 8 million dollars while still paying DLH 15?

Just think about it. If floyd is fighting Margirito and getting 8 million, then theres no doubt he would get much more if he fought Oscar de la Hoya. Praticlly everyone in the united states knows who he is.

:lame: :thumbsdow :nonono:

no surprise from floyd

Ferocity hating on floyd?!?!
What a suprise!

Ferocity hating on floyd?!?!
What a suprise!

if floyd does fight delahoya i hope delahoya beats the **** out of him

if floyd does fight delahoya i hope delahoya beats the **** out of him

i would love to see dlh win, but only because i hate black boxers.

i kid, of course. a fight between these two will tell nothing. theyll try and box, and one of them will win a dubious points decision.

Just think about it. If floyd is fighting Margirito and getting 8 million, then theres no doubt he would get much more if he fought Oscar de la Hoya. Praticlly everyone in the united states knows who he is.

You have to remember tho, I think Margarito is only getting 1 to PBF's 8 million dollars meaning that the entire purse is 9 mil. Can a fight between PBF and DLH make enough to warrant a 25-30 million dollar purse. I honestly do not think PBF is as marketable as Tito was when he fought DLH, the only time that that typ of revenue was made.

if floyd does fight delahoya i hope delahoya beats the **** out of him

And that is how you respond to my claim that your a hater. By hating even more!
LOL!

"No, not really. There was always in my mind that he had a great reluctance to fight Margarito," he admitted. "One thing about Floyd, he knows more about boxing than anybody and Margarito is the riskiest fight for him." - bob arum

edit; :confused:

Heh, heh, this ain't news. I done been tellin' you boys Floyd ain't no gunslinger, he's Sissyboy Floyd. Plus he's already blown at least $5 million by not fighting Judah last year when both were hot.

Face it, Sissyboy ain't got enough business sense to start a koolaide stand and he's gunshy against the big boys of the division. No guarantee that Oscar is even gonna want to fight him, and Oscar would be generous to give him 25%, but probably more like 15-20%. Sissyboy turned down a guaranteed 8 mil for a unspecified future amount that will probably be lower because he's draggin his name through the dirt and running from yet another lucrative fight.

Smart move by Mayweather. He is trying to broaden his fan base and De La Hoya is the only way to get that kind of exposure. I also think the fight could be promoted very successfully because of the natural story line of Mayweather Sr. training Oscar to beat his son.

This is ****ing bull****!

lol Only reason why he wants DeLaHoya is because Oscar is a boarder line wash up/easy win and a easy name to put on your record if your still in your prime (like floyd is) AND...because Oscar fights generate money...

Man...I've officially lost half the respect I use to have for PBF..

This is just as rediculous as him crying after EASILY beating the snot outa Gatti, like beating Gatti brought him closer to Jesus or somthin..

PBF is officially takin the easiest and lamest fights. I'm startin to think those early rounds in the Judah fight have PBF officially shook of hard incoming contact..

i really don't care who mayweather fights, because you know his next fight has to be with a big name, i.e. dlh, margarito, hatton, mosley?? and id buy any one of those fights.

If anyone thinks Delahoya is an easier fight then Margarito, then they all should jump of the nearest bridge this second.

I hate Floyd and I hate the IBF even more for not having Antonio Margarito in their top 15. :mad:

Bob Arum wants the Margarito nut-huggers keep continuing this BS. If PBF made 3.5 against Gatti, 4.8 against Zab, how in the hell Arum is offering PBF 8.2 against Margarito, I never believed the 8 mil offer.

Arum is just trying to build his fighter, because no one knows him, the more the nut-huggers talk about Margarito then more people will know Margarito.

Arum is just bull****ting again!

Smart move by Mayweather. He is trying to broaden his fan base and De La Hoya is the only way to get that kind of exposure. I also think the fight could be promoted very successfully because of the natural story line of Mayweather Sr. training Oscar to beat his son.

In that case he should have waited after the Mayorga-DLH fight...If Mayorga beats DLH I doubt there will be a Floyd-DLH fight. And I'm pretty sure that if Floyd goes back to Arum for the Margarito fight, Bob will offer him less than 8 Mills.

If anyone thinks Delahoya is an easier fight then Margarito, then they all should jump of the nearest bridge this second.

DeLaHoya has no more pop and poops out after 6 rounds...

"IF" Oscar has anything left, its gonna be left in the Mayorga fight..

But Tony...gets such perfect leverage on his looping shots that he can hurt men while they hide behind their gloves. Oscar just pitty pats for 6 rounds and brings money to the table..

That's exactly why Floyd want's Oscar, thats why EVERYONE want's Oscar. Cause Oscar can't hurt anyone anymore and he's got the money..

i agree!!!

DeLaHoya has no more pop and poops out after 6 rounds...

"IF" Oscar has anything left, its gonna be left in the Mayorga fight..

But Tony...gets such perfect leverage on his looping shots that he can hurt men while they hide behind their gloves. Oscar just pitty pats for 6 rounds and brings money to the table..

That's exactly why Floyd want's Oscar, thats why EVERYONE want's Oscar. Cause Oscar can't hurt anyone anymore and he's got the money..Oscar is the better boxer, hit's harder then Margarito & has much faster hands. I don't see Oscar trying to box PBF, he will pressure PBF + more skills + more power if he does pressure + more speed.

It's a no brainer Oscar is the tougher fight, especially this version of Oscar, because he's much bigger then PBF.

If you live in NYC, I recommend the Brooklyn Bridge. :D

I think DLH will command the lion's share of the purse if he were to fight PBF. I dont think ebough revenue would be generated to gurantee PBF 8 million while still giving DLH the majority of the money.
in my opinion, right now, oscar and floyd are equal attractions and they are both smart and have enough class not to argue over 50/50 or 55/45 for oscar. But yes, about half would probably consist of 8-10 million

Oscar hit's harder then Margarito

I know delusional people and what happens when you try to talk to em. So...It's official, don't ever waist my time by trying to engange ina discussion with me while I'm on here lol..

I know delusional people and what happens when you try to talk to em. So...It's official, don't ever waist my time by trying to engange ina discussion with me while I'm on here lol..OK Margarito is the next Hearns. Go watch some of his fights, you will see it takes many punches from Margarito to stop some bums. Again overrated power, just like everything else with Margarito from his 50 fans.

Where do you live? so I can recommend you a good bridge. :)

No one said he was a one punch KO machine, No one is even makin him out to be Hagler..I'm sorry, but I don't make a habbit of having e-debates to over dramatic/delusional posters..lol. You think Oscar hits harder than Margarito and you can't see what makes Antonio Margarito what he is...Than that's all I need to know about you lol.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382

"Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.

The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.

Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.

Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.

But Arum is confident they will make the deal.

"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."

Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.

"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible." "

Very interesting, K on the way.

I'm starting to develop a genuine hatred for Floyd Mayweather.

Good, if Margarito fights another top fighter, he will lose.

Yeah I knew the fight woulden't happen, but I thought it would be because Margarito would price himself out. Mayweather is crazy turning down 8 million. Then again he can make a ton fighting winner of Mosley-Vargas II or Mayorga-De la Hoya. So he still has some big money fights lined up for him. Not to mention Ricky Hatton.

I want to hear his excuse for not making this fight. I will no longer be a fan if this guy doesn't make this nor a Hatton fight.

Lets understand what the 8 million is about. Arum had Mayweather who is the best fighter out there but had only a limited fan base. If somehow Margarito beat Mayweather, then he would become a monster star in Mexico who would be able to draw huge PPV audiences. Right now however he is a minor player at best. Arum had to throw huge bucks at Mayweather just to make him think about this fight even though it would lose money. Fortunately, Mayweather had the good sense to turn it down and not get into a situation where his own promoter was hoping he would lose. Instead he will fight De La Hoya in what should be a tough and interesting bout. Oscar only loses to great opponents. Mosley circa 2001 was tremendous. Hopkins was dominant in the middleweight division for a decade. And he beat Trinidad. I just don't know why people don't recognize that he is still an awfully tough opponent. Certainly tougher than Margarito.

if it don't make money it don't make sense?....hahaha he paid out of his own pocket ($750000) to get out of fighting margarito...i guess his new motto is "if it's margarito throw money on the ground and run to the hills"

Good, if Margarito fights another top fighter, he will lose.

What do you mean, another?

Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.


I want to believe this, but part of me say's Floyd just wants this washed up DeLaHoya as soon as possible. He want's this easy ass fight and the paper that comes with it and thats all he's thinkin about right now..

FLoyd is such a *****. What else is there to say... Talk about ball kissers, u floyd fans defend this ***** so damn much it disgusting.

The man only cares about fighting opponents he knows he can dominate and collecting a check, and hes too ****ing scared to cash the check arum offered him to fight Toney.

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this just proves that Floyd is a little *****!!!!!! he's no Ali, he's no Leonard. he's scared of the man, plain and simple. An absolute Disgrace. and if Oscar gets by Mayorga, he will beat Mayweather's ass. guaranteed

if it don't make money it don't make sense?....hahaha he paid out of his own pocket ($750000) to get out of fighting margarito...i guess his new motto is "if it's margarito throw money on the ground and run to the hills"

:rofl: :werd: Floyd is a *****. its simple as that. the floyd fans calling Tony a bum and all that are sad.

Why is Floyd turning away 8 mil to fight a "bum"?

***** is scared that he will lose :rolleyes:

he's definitely in it for the money. im sure floyd and DLH and secure a good purse instead of having bob around both camps gets to keep top dollars for themselves. though it should have to be noted the floyd should be fighting marga should he finsish dealing with DLH and Hatton. we can just push the guy out he wants to make money.

Floyd will get at least 15 million because Bernard got 10 and he was much less known than PBF. The PPV Oscar and Bernard did had over 1 million buys and his PPV with Tito made even more. This is a wise business decision but some may question Floyd just like they questioned Roy.

Floyd will get at least 15 million because Bernard got 10 and he was much less known than PBF. The PPV Oscar and Bernard did had over 1 million buys and his PPV with Tito made even more. This is a wise business decision but some may question Floyd just like they questioned Roy.


Bernard much less known than PBF? not really dude. nobody gives a **** about pbf in the general public. he ain't Roy either.

Floyd will get at least 15 million because Bernard got 10 and he was much less known than PBF. The PPV Oscar and Bernard did had over 1 million buys and his PPV with Tito made even more. This is a wise business decision but some may question Floyd just like they questioned Roy.

***** boy only cares about the bussiness sense, making money fighting lesser opponents.

He doesnt care about the fans and fighting the best.

What does fighting DLH prove besides lining his pockets?

***** boy only cares about the bussiness sense, making money fighting lesser opponents.

He doesnt care about the fans and fighting the best.

What does fighting DLH prove besides lining his pockets?


everybody is assuming that he is gonna fight dlh., that fight will never happen, Oscar doesn't want to go out losing. it won't happen, and floyd knows that, he is just scared of Margarito

everybody is assuming that he is gonna fight dlh., that fight will never happen, Oscar doesn't want to go out losing. it won't happen, and floyd knows that, he is just scared of Margarito


we all know he's spooked. Little ***** is using a supposed fight against DLH as an excuse not to fight Margarito right now for 8 mil. :rolleyes:

How many PPV did Bernard have before he fought oscar.

How many PPV did Bernard have before he fought oscar.


Floyd has now had 2 ppv's dude, slow down the nuthugging chief.

in my opinion, right now, oscar and floyd are equal attractions and they are both smart and have enough class not to argue over 50/50 or 55/45 for oscar. But yes, about half would probably consist of 8-10 million

HAHAHAHA equal attractions, please. No doubt DLH is the #1 p4p fighter and a better fighter right now than DLH but they are by far not equal attractions. Those career high 350,000 ppv sells floyd vs judah in a card stacked with talent are nothing on DLH. DLH sells 400,000 + on a bad day in a card where the only decent fight is him vs someone he hyped himself.


Anyway on the subject, looks like Floyd continues to avoid the Margarito fight.

Thats my point Bernard had 0 when he fought oscar and he made 10 mill and Floyd has already had 2 PPV so why wouldnt he make than 10 mill if he has a bigger fan base.

Thats my point Bernard had 0 when he fought oscar and he made 10 mill and Floyd has already had 2 PPV so why wouldnt he make than 10 mill if he has a bigger fan base.


Zero? are you sure about that? there was a certain guy around who at the time was 40-0 and challenged Bernard for the undisputed middleweight championship. Oscar isn't at his peak anymore. He won't get as much, so Floyd won't either.

Zero? are you sure about that? there was a certain guy around who at the time was 40-0 and challenged Bernard for the undisputed middleweight championship. Oscar isn't at his peak anymore. He won't get as much, so Floyd won't either.
Yeah and Roy wasnt in his peak the third time he fought Tarver and he still sold more than the previous two PPV. Especially since the majority of oscars fans dont follow boxing they just follow him.

Maybe his hand really is ****ed up, and he's waiting to see if Oscar wins.

Floyd is a badass.

He'd have a great shot at outboxing and beating Oscar.

He doesn't stand a remote shot at beating Mayorga however. So lets hope and pray Floyd doesn't fight that psychopath.

He's scare him to death in the presser, and chase him around the ring like he was the cops.

God Floyd is a piece of sh*t and i seriously hope he reads these online comments by his and boxing fans because this is f**ked up. You fight the best and prove youself. He was fine after judah fight so my ass on hurting his hand and DLH is gonna give him 5mil top's and DLH has a high risk of losing to Mayorga with his lay off and lack of speed and movement at 154. I would hate for Floyd (and Hatton) to retire,which they want to soon, without fighting challenging boxers.

PBF did state in the press conference right after the Judah fight that he had in fact hurt his right hand. I have no doubt that Arum wanted to sign PBF to a fight as soon as possible to ensure his future as a rich promoter would be as bright as possible at Floyd's expense, and that Floyd's main motivation was not to duck a fight, but rather to duck a promoter.

Personally, I will wait for Floyd to heal and make a decision on who he will fight next before rippin' the P4P best in the game, as well, this is prize fightin', and I am sure when Floyd does make an announcement on who he's gonna box next, he'll get a nice size prize for that fight as well....

dlh would murder margarito
so would floyd
they bigger name fighters by far
whats everyones problem with that fight getting made
let margarito get some more fame so it can be a mega fight instead of a boxing after dark card

margarito should want mayweather to beat dlh first too cause then if he beats mayweather he beats the best fighter out that retired the golden boy

people act like theres nobody out there for margarito to fight
come on theres hatton collazo winner
gatti baldy winner
judah
probably corley would come up
clottey
julio
paul williams
spinks

all kinds margarito could fight whys it gotta be floyd right now

id be fine if it was just to shut people up about margarito gonna kill mayweather but yeah

Golden Boy is obviously behind both of these decisions. Mayweather-DLH looks to be on.

It is all about fighting Oscar...not just about the money, but the main stream recognition he will get in return...which will mean he will be able to demand more money for future fights if he can capitalize on the victory.

A fight with Margarito doesn't do much for "Main-stream" attention.

Floyd is close to 30 years old, he knows that he must fight the big names now, the names that are popular.

Who really knows if Arum could of paid Floyd $8 million for the fight...maybe it was a gamble he was willing to take, hoping that if Margo beat Floyd it will generate big bucks in the future...or maybe Bob Arum knew Floyd would not take the fight, thus making it look like Floyd was scared to fight, and making noise in the media of how "Feared" Margo is.

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a relaxed open,off the cuff larry merchant insightfully said this a couple weeks ago on pedro's show.

I would have MAD respect for Hatton if he fights Margarito.

here it is maywether fights delahoya for penuts and win easy delahoya is no where near his prime but delahoya retiers then all the all of oscars fan jump on the prety boys band wagon thats what roger and company think if he fights margarito and looses thats a hard hit to take and margarito becomes a star so i hope oscar dont give him a chance i personally dont like the duck ing game and if maywether was in oscars shoes he wouldnt give him the time or day like hes doing margarito

Just think about it. If floyd is fighting Margirito and getting 8 million, then theres no doubt he would get much more if he fought Oscar de la Hoya. Praticlly everyone in the united states knows who he is.yes that may be true but oscar will make almost if not dubble that and floyd will have to realize that people do not really give a **** about him he will never command that type of money because he will have to fight apponents that are also money makers. Thats why he fought gatti and took the fight with judah they made him money and thats why he wants oscar because he can make floyd money floyd can not make a big payday on his own. Even mitchell brought people because he has been a stable for years and comein shape and competes at the top. I believe floyd mad a mistake that oscar did not earlier in his career. Fight the best out there and fight more often. Look at the strung togeter top fighters oscar would fight 3 times a year for years. Floyd has yet to do that even once. You need to all shut up oscar has fought 5 more total fight four losses included but there are not enough greats or becoming greats to even get close to oscar. He had the I forgot my helmit performance in the last rounds of trinidade and mosley in controversial fasing beat oscar by taking the fight to him as did Nard a fight most thought oscar would loose. Now will floyd beat oscar yes would floyd beat oscar at 130 135 at the same age when they were there oscar would ko floyd silly make him do judahs chicken dance. and if you guys need futher reminding look at floyds first 4 years as a champion verse oscars first 4 years. Now there is no one really left to chanlange floyd I think hatton would get beatin on points and marge would as well floyd does not make mistakes at least that his opponents can capitlize on. For the record I would like both to beat Floyd

I want to hear his excuse for not making this fight. I will no longer be a fan if this guy doesn't make this nor a Hatton fight.

u gay go punch some klitschko posters

either way, they have now proven that this is all rigged, and we are some dumb for following so much!

i have a feeling that floyd wont be with top rank much longer. if floyd fights and beats dlh i bet he will join with goldenboy.

I had a feeling something like that will happen.

as for Oscar he must win Mayorga to fight Floyd. and I think if he won Mayorga he will promote himself and get Floyd fight and loss in front of Floyd and make him on of the members of Golden boy promotion

either way, they have now proven that this is all rigged, and we are some dumb for following so much!

explain how it is so rigged

please do tell
:rolleyes:

This is nonsense. DLH has stated that if he beats Mayorga and regains the WBC belt he is going to retire because he want's to retire as champ. DLH will not be fighting Mayweather afterwards.

You guys are funny, Margarito isn't going anywhere, he'll be available for Floyd to fight for the next 3-4 years, hell they might even fight more than once. Oscar on the other hand will be retired by 2007. So which would you do, fight Margarito, who is not well known outside of the true boxing fans for $8mil and lose the chance to ever beat a living legend. Or fight Oscar for more money and more recognition and then fight Margarito in 2007. You all can't be that stupid?

he just recently said a couple days ago hed have to talk to floyd sr about fighting floyd jr
so hes definitely considering it and he didnt say mayorga would be his last fight
if he did he hasnt most recently said that

You guys are funny, Margarito isn't going anywhere, he'll be available for Floyd to fight for the next 3-4 years, hell they might even fight more than once. Oscar on the other hand will be retired by 2007. So which would you do, fight Margarito, who is not well known outside of the true boxing fans for $8mil and lose the chance to ever beat a living legend. Or fight Oscar for more money and more recognition and then fight Margarito in 2007. You all can't be that stupid?

very well stated dude

all the people who flamed me when I laughed about Mayweather demanding 20 million to fight hatton in manchester...

well, at least now you see the truth...

i smell bs when they claim mayweather was offered 8 million anyhow
we dont know if thats true and i highly doubt it
maybe a 8 million total purse maybe
but margarito cant sell ppvs
mayweather can

if they had mayweather vs margarito it would not reach as much as judah vs mayweather did
probably like 200 to 250 k maybe even worse since people might not want to get another mayweather ppv so soon
mainstream people would think margarito is a straight up bum

I don't care if a fight with De La Hoya is possibly on the horizon, if he turned down eight million to fight Margarito, that indicates to me that there is definately some doubt in the Mayweather camp as to whether or not he can beat Margarito. If they really thought he was going to win I think they would have taken that payday.

I'm going to give Floyd the benefit of the doubt for now and assume he is just making a good business decision. If Mayorga beats De La Hoya though, and Floyd still won't fight Margarito, then as far as I'm concerned he is ducking him.

i smell bs when they claim mayweather was offered 8 million anyhow
we dont know if thats true and i highly doubt it
maybe a 8 million total purse maybe
but margarito cant sell ppvs
mayweather can

if they had mayweather vs margarito it would not reach as much as judah vs mayweather did
probably like 200 to 250 k maybe even worse since people might not want to get another mayweather ppv so soon
mainstream people would think margarito is a straight up bum

Dude, you are really lost...the article explicitly states that PBF turned down 8 million dollars. That is not the total pie but the slice he was offered.

Dude, you are really lost...the article explicitly states that PBF turned down 8 million dollars. That is not the total pie but the slice he was offered.

youre the lost one
the article says? so

have you seen a contract? no you havent
neither has that reporter who wrote the article
arum may have said he offered 8 million but that still doesnt make it so
arum is NOT a trustworthy dude
after all he was caught paying off the ibf to rank foreman :eek:

produce a contract that says 8 million for mayweather and ill buy it
otherwise its just hearsay

youre the lost one
the article says? so

have you seen a contract? no you havent
neither has that reporter who wrote the article
arum may have said he offered 8 million but that still doesnt make it so
arum is NOT a trustworthy dude
after all he was caught paying off the ibf to rank foreman :eek:

produce a contract that says 8 million for mayweather and ill buy it
otherwise its just hearsay

Good point.

There are many people around here trying to degrade Mayweather and all have forgoten how is p4p number 1 for many year and many year to come

i smell bs when they claim mayweather was offered 8 million anyhow
we dont know if thats true and i highly doubt it
maybe a 8 million total purse maybe
but margarito cant sell ppvs
mayweather can

if they had mayweather vs margarito it would not reach as much as judah vs mayweather did
probably like 200 to 250 k maybe even worse since people might not want to get another mayweather ppv so soon
mainstream people would think margarito is a straight up bum

thats just stupid then.
what ever happened to fighting?? call your self a fighter yet you dont wanna fight the best. hmmm

:rofl: :werd: Floyd is a *****. its simple as that. the floyd fans calling Tony a bum and all that are sad.

Why is Floyd turning away 8 mil to fight a "bum"?

***** is scared that he will lose :rolleyes:

:lol1: I'm glad to see that Margarito is the second coming. Correct me if I'm wrong but Tony has been a Welter for 12 years and what does he have to show for it? Look at it this way:

Margarito first fought for the WBO in 2001 in that time frame Mosley, Lewis, Forrest, Mayorga, Spinks, and Judah have had the belts at that weight limit, he only fought one of the 6, the weakest one of all Lewis. How is that for being a terror he hasn't done jack in 12 years and even less in the last 5 years, beating up Cintron doesn't make u a killer.

thats just stupid then.
what ever happened to fighting?? call your self a fighter yet you dont wanna fight the best. hmmm

How is tony the best??
He hasnt proven himself.

Heh, heh, this ain't news. I done been tellin' you boys Floyd ain't no gunslinger, he's Sissyboy Floyd. Plus he's already blown at least $5 million by not fighting Judah last year when both were hot.

Face it, Sissyboy ain't got enough business sense to start a koolaide stand and he's gunshy against the big boys of the division. No guarantee that Oscar is even gonna want to fight him, and Oscar would be generous to give him 25%, but probably more like 15-20%. Sissyboy turned down a guaranteed 8 mil for a unspecified future amount that will probably be lower because he's draggin his name through the dirt and running from yet another lucrative fight.

Tony has alot of stuff he could be doing to bolster his resume instead of waiting on a guy with many options all of which are more lucrative than him. I dont think he or his fans do him any good when they cry for a fight instead of getting in the ring with other world class fighters and kicking ass.

Tony has alot of stuff he could be doing to bolster his resume instead of waiting on a guy with many options all of which are more lucrative than him. I dont think he or his fans do him any good when they cry for a fight instead of getting in the ring with other world class fighters and kicking ass.


LOL, what do you think hes been doing for the past few years? Hes been fighting the top contenders that are willing to step inside the ring with him. No world champion has the balls yet to step inside the ring with him. The archie moore of his time....

FLoyd is such a *****. What else is there to say... Talk about ball kissers, u floyd fans defend this ***** so damn much it disgusting.

The man only cares about fighting opponents he knows he can dominate and collecting a check, and hes too ****ing scared to cash the check arum offered him to fight Toney.
youre a ****ing idiot. mayweather got a check if he fought toney. Are u ****ing retarded. with there sweet 60 lb weigh difference i would love to see the fight

youre a ****ing idiot. mayweather got a check if he fought toney. Are u ****ing retarded. with there sweet 60 lb weigh difference i would love to see the fight


already making excuses for floyd, LOL

LOL, what do you think hes been doing for the past few years? Hes been fighting the top contenders that are willing to step inside the ring with him. No world champion has the balls yet to step inside the ring with him. The archie moore of his time....

Your right, Manuel Gomez and Sebastian Lujan are some top ****ing contenders.

already making excuses for floyd, LOL

Notice how there is an e in toney, genuis.

youre a ****ing idiot. mayweather got a check if he fought toney. Are u ****ing retarded. with there sweet 60 lb weigh difference i would love to see the fight

Haha, MEANT TONY

No Tony hasn't fought top fighters. But i just see him giving Mayweather some pressure problems. I like Mayweather but damn. Tony is ranked what? Number 2 by ring magazine and 1 by ESPN?? Why not give him a chance? Damn Mayweather!

thats just stupid then.
what ever happened to fighting?? call your self a fighter yet you dont wanna fight the best. hmmm

dlh is 1000 times better than margarito will ever be
dlh would knock the **** out of margarito mark my words

Margarito is the only fighter out there right now that could cause a threat to Floyd and that include Ricky Hatton why would he want to risk a matchup with Oscar which could generate alot more money due to Pay per view sales

Mayweather says that he is in this to make a mark in boxing history, yet all he cares about is money......Mayweather is prissy little biatch who has lost the respect of the boxing community.

I bet that even if Oscar loses to Mayorga (doubt it), Mayweather will still want to fight DLH.

its been reported that Floyd is gettin a 23 mill for fightin DLH which is a hell of a lot more for takin a **** fight against a over-rated fighter

mayweather is a *****! YES, IM HATING!

mayweather is a *****! YES, IM HATING!

you would have to be scared ****less to turn down that much money for a fight. biggest payday of his life.

you would have to be scared ****less to turn down that much money for a fight. biggest payday of his life.

He got the same amount for fighting Baldomir plus a shot at Welterweight title learn the facts.

He got the same amount for fighting Baldomir plus a shot at Welterweight title learn the facts.

that dont change the fact that he ducked margarito. the baldomir fight happened a year after margarito was offering the biggest payday of his life.