It has to be Sugar Ray Robinson's or Rocky Marcianno

As far as I'm concerned there are 5 guys with incredible records and they are:

Ray Robinson (best fighter ever with the best all around record)

Ali (strength of opposition and performances)

Chavez (unbeaten streak and win/loss ratio)

Marciano (undefeated)

Moore (wins/KO's will never again be touched)

Pretty Boy Floyd is goiing to go right along with those guys in several years..

Marciano and Chavez are good calls.

Pretty Boy Floyd is goiing to go right along with those guys in several years..

I agree completely. Floyd will go down as the best fighter of my generation, whether people accept him now or not. Maybe he will have to beat Gatti to a pulp for that recognition. Either way, Mayweather cannot be contained.

As far as I'm concerned there are 5 guys with incredible records and they are:

Ray Robinson (best fighter ever with the best all around record)

Ali (strength of opposition and performances)

Chavez (unbeaten streak and win/loss ratio)

Marciano (undefeated)

Moore (wins/KO's will never again be touched)


chavez is probably the most worthy of all of those records, back in the days of Marciano he would just fight semi-pro guys in bar rings, and call it a win with a rd 1 ko. the more modern fighters definately face fiercer competition

Dude you really can't be seriouslly bagging on the fighters from the throwback years like that! You cannot compare the fighters from nowadays to them, like Floyd, yes he's a really good fighter with all the potential in the world but he fights far to infrequently and his competition level needs to get back to where it was when he fought at 130.

As far as Rocky Marciano fighting mostly club fighters I have a hard time calling (Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles x2, Jersey Joe Walcottx2, Rex Layne, Roland Lastarza, and albeit an old Joe Louis but still Joe Louis) club fighters!
and that's not even counting Don ****ell, or Harry Matthews! So I'd say that Floyd maybe really good could be really great but shouldn't be put anywhere near this class of fighters such as: Ali, A. Moore, Suger Ray Robinson, Rocky Marciano, Julio Ceasar Chavez, Joe Louis, even Larry Holmes, and George Foreman if going by records!

Sugar Ray Robinson, I'd say

Rocky Marcianno is my pick

Robinson. I mean, Marcaino was great for going undefeated and all, but Robinson just fought way more fights and racked up a huge record. I'd have to give him more propes.

Just for you young ones here. For what it's worth: Julio Ceasar Chavez incredible win streak ( before whitaker tied him and randall beat him) is kind of sku'd. He actually had a disqualification loss, but Don King had it removed from his record. Curious to know if any of you knew that. I'm sure Julio was better, but none the less, just goes to show there is always politics involved, even in boxing...imagine that.

Just for you young ones here. For what it's worth: Julio Ceasar Chavez incredible win streak ( before whitaker tied him and randall beat him) is kind of sku'd. He actually had a disqualification loss, but Don King had it removed from his record. Curious to know if any of you knew that. I'm sure Julio was better, but none the less, just goes to show there is always politics involved, even in boxing...imagine that.

The DQ loss was change by a buddy of Chavez. Chavez KO'd a guy after the round had finish. Same kind of thing that happen to Roy in the his first "loss". Chavez first real loss was to Pea, just like Roy's was to Tarver.

Just for you young ones here. For what it's worth: Julio Ceasar Chavez incredible win streak ( before whitaker tied him and randall beat him) is kind of sku'd. He actually had a disqualification loss, but Don King had it removed from his record. Curious to know if any of you knew that. I'm sure Julio was better, but none the less, just goes to show there is always politics involved, even in boxing...imagine that.
Yea against Miguel Ruiz, but it was Ramon Felix that had it changed to a ko win, it helps to have your manager be on the commission!:rolleyes:

Theres a guy named Lopez that cant be left out...!
Ricardo "finito" Lopez. Unbeaten! :eek:

Not many fighters can match Harry Greb's record and opposition. He fought in a total of 299 bouts and amassed a record of 26(48kos)-21-15. His record pretty much consists of 80% of all the hall of fame fighters, from 135-heavy, that fought during the 1910s and 1920s.

Yup, Ricardo Lopez can't be left out. Whoa, how 'bout Willie Pep? 230-11-1. ****, that's a ridiculous win/loss ratio!

"El Gran Campeon Mexicano"Julio Cesar Chavez!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to look at the quality of the opponents. Marciano didn`t really fight that great of opponents. Some were old and past it ( Joe Louis ).
Roy Jones has a great record. I know he lost his last two but if you look at the career on whole he dominated every lightheavy spare Tarver + Johnson, he beat very good fighters in Toney and Hopkins, and beat them convincingly.
Evander Holyfield also deserves a mention, the quality of opponents was unreal and he fought most of the guys when they were in their prime ( Lewis was in his prime but Tyson....little past it but still had something to offer ).
I know recent performances will damage Evander`s legacy but look at his prime, he was fantastic.

Theres a guy named Lopez that cant be left out...!
Ricardo "finito" Lopez. Unbeaten! :eek:
WHAT WAS HE LIKE 56-0-1 48 KO'S AND RETIRED CHAMP.A MASTERPIECE OF NACHO BERISTIEN. :D

Marciano retired undefeated.

Maciano, he had no flaws.

Greb, Robinson or perhaps Willie Pep.

Jimmy Wilde - flyweight champ from the early 20th century

134 wins
4 losses
10 draws

amazing fighter!

I love Marciano, his style was intimidating and his power was lethal. Not many people give him credit for being a very intelligent fighter, which he was. He mastered the art of decking people systematically. As far as impressive records go, I have to go with Julio Caesar Chavez. He brought an old-school mentality to modern boxing and put away many terrific fighters. Sugar Ray Robinson runs a close second with Marciano and Ali following.

Take a guess.

marciano is the best...

If Larry Holmes had beaten Rocky's record would you say his was the greatest of all time. I wouldn't it. I don't know why but I hate that guy.