Soon the idea of african american blacks dominating pro boxing will fade and it will be domianted by east europeons... :) .... boxing is popular in those dark /cold/ former communist countries and they back their favorites so soon, they will take over boxng in the USA. It started with Golota and now it is kiltscko and soon more.. :) :D ......... Where's Muhmmad Ali/Larry holmes when you need them? :rolleyes:

Does it matter what nationality they are?
Atleast we're one step closer to unification..

Does it matter what nationality they are?
Atleast we're one step closer to unification..
To some racist pricks it does matter

golota a champion???dominated??

To some racist pricks it does matter

Im sure hes probley Eastern European himself, dont be soon to jump to conclusions. Besides Who was rooting for Tommy Morrison (American) vs. Lennox Lewis (British)?

Not African Americans, no one... Why? Most likely because of his skin color, all of this was before his controvercy with Aids. I cant think of another reason why Americans would root for the Brit.

There are racist pricks on every side...

PS. GOLOATA!!!! HAHAHA he is a joke.

BTW, Ukraine is not a cold country. The weather is actually pretty nice there.

lol dude its only heavyweights.... kostya was a Great 140 pounder but hes retired now and i dont see anyone in lower weight classes from eastern europe dominating like he did.

lets look at all the top boxers from all the weight classes :


Straweight :

Eagle Kwoya = Japenese

Ivan Calderon = Peurto Rican


Light flyweight :

Roberto Vasquez = Panamian

Hugo Cazares = Mexican


Flyweight :

Lorenzo Parra = Venezuela

Vic Darchinyan = armenian/Australian

Jorge Arce = Mexican

Omar Narvaez = Argentinian


Super Flyweight :

Martin Castillo = Mexican

Jose navarro = American

Masamori Tokuyama = Japenese

Alex munoz = Venezuela


Bantamweight :

Rafael Marquez : Mexican

Silence mabuza = South african

Jhonny gonzalez = Mexican

Wladimir Sidorenko(keeps gettin Gift DEcs and only fights in germany but i will still count him as a top bantamweight) = Ukraine

Super bantamweight :

Israel Vasquez : Mexican

Oscar Larios(soon to move up to 130) = Mexican


Featherweight :

Juan manuel Marquez = Mexican

Chris john(got a Gift dec but still good enuff featherweight ) = Indonesian

Valdemir Pereira = Brazil

Scott harrison = British


Super feather :

Manny pacquaio = Philippine

Marco Antonio Barrera = Mexican

Jorge Rodrigo Barrios = Argentinian

Erik Morales = Mexican


Lightweigt :

Juan Diaz = American

Jose luis castillo = Mexican

Diego Corrales = AMerican

popo Freitas = Brazilian

Zahir raheem = American

Jesus Chavez = Mexican


Junior Welterweight :

Ricky Hatton = British

Miguel Cotto = Peurto Rican


Welterweight :

Zab judah = american

Floyd mayweather = American

antonio Margarito = Mexican

Carlos Baldomir = Argentinian


Junior middleweight :

Oscar de la hoya = american

Ricardo mayorga = Nicaragua

Shane mosely = american

Kassim ouma = Ugandan

Roman Karmazin = Russian


Middleweight :

Winky wright = American

Jermain taylor = American

Bernard hopkins = American


Super middleweight =

Joe Calzaghe = British

Jeff lacy = American

Beyer = German




Light heavyweight :

Tarver = American

Glen johnson = Barbados


Cruiser :

Jean marc mormec = French

O neil bell = Jamaican/American


Vassiliy Jirov = Kazakhstani


Heavyweight =

Wlad Klitschko = Ukraine

Lamon brewster = American

Hasim rahman = American

Serguei Lyakhovich = Belarus



Now tell me how many Eastern europeans are in this list . only 4(5 if u count jirov but kazakhastan is in central asia not eeastern europe). (and remember i was being generous to include Wladimir Sidorenko). yeah if this is what you call domination then may god help you :D


and p.s dont even ask me why i didnt include Valuev in this list :D



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It really doesn't matter where a fighter comes from as long as he can perform well...it is all about great fighters fighting great fights.

For African American heavyweights, it may have to do something with the best big athletes are in the NFL. Boxing doesn't protect their clients like the NFL does, thus making it about "security" for the athlete.

I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.

I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.

The thing about the weight classes is it is rare to see a European that is below 5'7, same with the Africans. They dont tend to have many competitors in lower divisions for genetic reasons.

And when you have like 20 divisions between the weight of 105 - 140 you will of course have less European / African champions. Of course I was eing sarcastic about the 20, the actual number is 10.

So no Europeans will never dominate Boxing.

American pride is great; but it's more important that we have a dominant champion. The heavyweight division has been murkier than a Scottish bog for two years now and, personally, I'm sick of it. Wlad looked dominant the other night. Granted, it was against a feather-fisted smallish man; but right now I would pick Klitshko over Rahman, Valuev, and Liakhovich. A dominant champion is more important than anything else. Americans have held the reigns in the heavyweight division for 120 years or so, with only a handful of exceptions...no need to be greedy. Good night, anything's better than John Ruiz! Let a strong and dominant man be king, I care not where his birthland is, as long as he's king.