Jake Lamotta
The Bronx Bull

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Height: 5'8"
Weight - Middleweight
Stance: Orthodox
Record: W 83 (30 ko's) | L 19 | D 4 | Total 106

One of the greatest chins in history and the first man to beat Ray Robinson. Agressive fight style.


Sugar Ray Leonard

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Height: 5'10"
Weight - Middleweight
Stance: Orthodox
Record: W 36 (25 ko's) | L 3 | D 1 | Total 40

Very talented boxer in numerous weight divisions. Fast and skilled in the sweet science.

Who would win? 15 rounds.

it could go either way, i see them fighting many times and both coming away with victories.

i see lamatta winning the fight

Lenard is no Robinson and Lamatta won the first exchange with Robinson

Lamatta was an amazing fighter, Incredible chin, and power of a heavyweight. Lamatta sort of reminds me of a short Heavyweight, because he had a chin that could most likely stand up to hw blows and he could probably trade with hw's as well

in his career i know of him beating at least one lhw so...

Lamatta in 8 by KO

Lamatta was great because he'd play possum, he'd let the guys beat on him until they got tired and then he'd ko them

i see lamatta winning the fight

Lenard is no Robinson and Lamatta won the first exchange with Robinson

Lamatta was an amazing fighter, Incredible chin, and power of a heavyweight. Lamatta sort of reminds me of a short Heavyweight, because he had a chin that could most likely stand up to hw blows and he could probably trade with hw's as well

in his career i know of him beating at least one lhw so...

Lamatta in 8 by KO

Lamatta was great because he'd play possum, he'd let the guys beat on him until they got tired and then he'd ko them
thats true, i dont think that leonard could take many shots from jake.

Anyone who could beat ray robinson can beat leonard

Lamotta won the second exchange actually; out of 6.
This is a great fight. I see it going either way but see Lamotta winning by UD.

Jake LaMotta would definitely stand a good chance, with his chin and stamina. Him being the only one to defeat Sugar Ray Robinson in 130 fights should tell us something about this guy! The other fights against Robinson were pretty close too.

This being said, I still believe Ray Leonard would defeat LaMotta. His great speed and wonderful skill would help him stay away long enough to secure him a solid lead on the cards, going into the later rounds. LaMotta might catch up to him at this point, but I don't think he could stop Leonard. His punch was not very impressive, with only 30 kos in 80 wins. And Leonard had a solid chin on him.

Ray Leonard by UD.

i see lamatta winning the fight

Lenard is no Robinson and Lamatta won the first exchange with Robinson

Lamatta was an amazing fighter, Incredible chin, and power of a heavyweight. Lamatta sort of reminds me of a short Heavyweight, because he had a chin that could most likely stand up to hw blows and he could probably trade with hw's as well

in his career i know of him beating at least one lhw so...

Lamatta in 8 by KO

Lamatta was great because he'd play possum, he'd let the guys beat on him until they got tired and then he'd ko them
Yea Lamotta with his 30 KO in 106 fight will KO Leonard. :rolleyes: Guys like Hearns & Hagler couldn't KO Leonard, but Lamotta will, what are you smoking?

Leonard wins this one easily by UD. People forget that Lamotta lost 5 times to Robinson.

LaMotta has too much of a natural strength and size advantage over Leonard and would press him all night and win a UD. Duran beat him the first time by pressuring him, but he was a natural lightweight. How do you think Leonard holds up to a much bigger, much stronger man who is just as determined and hits even harder than Duran did? Don't let the KO% fool you, LaMotta was very strong and heavy handed. He didn't have a knockout punch but he was described as being similar to Marciano in that he could "punch you anywhere in the body and hurt you". In the fight films, his shots to the body look very hard.

LaMotta has too much of a natural strength and size advantage over Leonard and would press him all night and win a UD. Duran beat him the first time by pressuring him, but he was a natural lightweight. How do you think Leonard holds up to a much bigger, much stronger man who is just as determined and hits even harder than Duran did? Don't let the KO% fool you, LaMotta was very strong and heavy handed. He didn't have a knockout punch but he was described as being similar to Marciano in that he could "punch you anywhere in the body and hurt you". In the fight films, his shots to the body look very hard.Lol, why I'm not surprised by this post!

Also don't forget that Leonard choose to brawl with Duran in the first fight, still many people thought Leonard won the first fight, it wasn't a fight that Duran dominated, even though Leonard choose to brawl with Duran. what happened in the other 2 fights with Duran??? Let's not forget No Mas! Also Duran was a much better boxer then Lamotta.

duran was a lightweight and in no terms carried his full potential as the roberto duran!

hearns and hagler couldnt ko leonard because they didnt have the right kind of pressure ... lamotta would be the type to eat leonards punches crowd him on the ropes and work his hook into leonards gut over and over
after lamotta pounds leonards legs away he'd drop him 2 or 3 times late before the ref waves it off

lamotta 160 pounds of cast iron ! no way leonard gets him

lamotta tko in the 15th

Yea Lamotta with his 30 KO in 106 fight will KO Leonard. :rolleyes: Guys like Hearns & Hagler couldn't KO Leonard, but Lamotta will, what are you smoking?

Leonard wins this one easily by UD. People forget that Lamotta lost 5 times to Robinson.
Jake lamatta beat Robinson once so its not like he couldn't but the big thing to note here is that he never got KO'd by Robinson
There first exchange was

10-2-1942 in which Robinson won a UD

next was
2-5-1943 in which Lamatta won a UD

next
2-25-1943 in which Robinson won a UD

next
2-23-1945 in which Robinson won a UD

next
9-26-1945 in which Robinson won a SD

lastly
2-14-1951 in which Robinson won a TKO in the 13th round

as you can see Lamatta didn't get ko'd but at the same time obviously there was only one fight where Lamatta was getting beat up on so bad that it had to be stopped, then again 1951 Lamatta was way past prime- i'm not sure when his prime was exactly. Robinson was always known for good footwork and handspeed, like the middleweight Ali, he moved and jabbed to out point but point is Lamatta was not an easy fighter to beat, and i've always held Sugar Ray Robinson in high respect just because i think he was one of the greatest fighters ever lived-

Lamatta either brawled or played possum, letting guys beat on him until they got tired and then he'd pound them, thats why he's known for having such a good chin, Lamatta had great KO power and i'd say that he's hw trapped in a middleweights body because his chin and punching power were that of a heavyweight, Lamatta hit harder then many heavyweights even at that time, and could take a hit, he was also one of the best fighters ever

that being said Robinson is a much better boxer/fighter then leonard IMO and Lamatta could KO leonard, i'd say Lamatta KO in 8 or TKO in 10, i suppose there is a slight chance that it would go to a decision and it would be more likely that if it went to a decision leonard would get the SD but i still think lamatta would ko lenard

Jake lamatta beat Robinson once so its not like he couldn't but the big thing to note here is that he never got KO'd by Robinson
There first exchange was

10-2-1942 in which Robinson won a UD

next was
2-5-1943 in which Lamatta won a UD

next
2-25-1943 in which Robinson won a UD

next
2-23-1945 in which Robinson won a UD

next
9-26-1945 in which Robinson won a SD

lastly
2-14-1951 in which Robinson won a TKO in the 13th round

as you can see Lamatta didn't get ko'd but at the same time obviously there was only one fight where Lamatta was getting beat up on so bad that it had to be stopped, then again 1951 Lamatta was way past prime- i'm not sure when his prime was exactly. Robinson was always known for good footwork and handspeed, like the middleweight Ali, he moved and jabbed to out point but point is Lamatta was not an easy fighter to beat, and i've always held Sugar Ray Robinson in high respect just because i think he was one of the greatest fighters ever lived-

Lamatta either brawled or played possum, letting guys beat on him until they got tired and then he'd pound them, thats why he's known for having such a good chin, Lamatta had great KO power and i'd say that he's hw trapped in a middleweights body because his chin and punching power were that of a heavyweight, Lamatta hit harder then many heavyweights even at that time, and could take a hit, he was also one of the best fighters ever

that being said Robinson is a much better boxer/fighter then leonard IMO and Lamatta could KO leonard, i'd say Lamatta KO in 8 or TKO in 10, i suppose there is a slight chance that it would go to a decision and it would be more likely that if it went to a decision leonard would get the SD but i still think lamatta would ko lenard

Please stop owning yourself, noway in hell Lamotta KO's Leonard. No offense to the people that voted for Lamotta, you guys must be on crack.

Why do you assume that LaMotta would have to knock Leonard out to beat him? He'd likely just outwork him, being the bigger and much stronger man as well as extremely aggressive. Leonard was just too small and didn't have to punch to really worry him. Leonard could hit but nowhere near as hard as Robinson.

Please stop owning yourself, noway in hell Lamotta KO's Leonard. No offense to the people that voted for Lamotta, you guys must be on crack.
you keep talking shit but wont back up your claim

under what stretch of the imageination do you think leonard who only fought once at 160 would beable to defeat a carear long 160 pounder who belive it or not HAS knocked down robinson

Gunstar is the ****ing forum idiot, steadily working his way up to the spot just beneath Tommyhearns804. Ignore his opinion because it just isn't worth a damn.

I see Jake winning because I am biased and I hate Sugar Ray Leonard.

oh its worth something man everybodys thoughts are worth something no matter how grim or proper

but if hes gonna run his damn mouth he better have something to back up the thought process otherthen "he'd knock him out no problem!" that redneck talk

I don't know why but I really truely hate SRL.

I don't know why but I really truely hate SRL.
duckin pryor

rematches with hearns and hagler that were ducked or neglected for years

as well as retireing a half dozen times before the age of 30 lol jk

Gunstar is so handsome.:luvbed: Sorry dude, I like girls! I think the same people that only posts at fantasy fights section are the real idiots, some of these polls are so retarded & biased. I throw up every time reading about some of these fantasy fights..

But anyway kid, when will you stop licking white fighters asses, you are really owning yourself every single time.

I don't even have to debate about this retarded battle, first of all not one of you retards knows who will win a fantasy fight, we're all guessing out of your asses. But this is retarded for anyone to think Lamotta would KO Leonard or win a UD.

I will probably never post in the fantasy fight section again, because I can't stand dealing with retarded posts.

lamotta late tko. he would pressure leonard all night make him run out of gas then take him out the late rounds. he had way more power then a middleweight should have so that would help. and leonard could hit him all night and it would have no effect on him.