ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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there is no way that will happen. wlad will beat everybody in the division

I think Wlad willl dominate the division now

Good joke. I want to see winner of Liakhovich vs Brewster fight Wlad next. Rahman doesn't deserve to fight the real champ.

Rahman is not bad he just cant hang with Wlad

Good joke. I want to see winner of Liakhovich vs Brewster fight Wlad next. Rahman doesn't deserve to fight the real champ.

Problem is, its possible. Rahman can throw bombs and everyone knows about Wlad's chin. If this fight goes off, id take wlad, but there is a possibility rahman wins.

Problem is, its possible. Rahman can throw bombs and everyone knows about Wlad's chin. If this fight goes off, id take wlad, but there is a possibility rahman wins.

Thing is that before they are able to throw bombs Wlad takes them down with his hard punching. Look at Brewster he coulden't do anything until Wlad seemingly ran out of stamina, and was also knocked down. Who do you think is better Rahman or Brewster when it comes to power punching? Case done. Rahman would get Ko'ed faster than Byrd probably.

Rahman barely beat a fat and barely active fighter by the name of James Toney. No way in hell can he beat Wlad Klitscko who is much stronger and throws a lot more punches than Toney. I can see Rahman getting knocked out if he ever faces Wlad.

rahman doesnt have the greatest chin either and offensivley, he's very inferior to wlad...

Good joke. I want to see winner of Liakhovich vs Brewster fight Wlad next. Rahman doesn't deserve to fight the real champ.
yeah, no ****. wlad should fight rahman eventually just to get the title, but i think wlad needs to fight the other champs first considering how poor of a performance rahman put on his last fight.

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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lol,,,there's the ole stamina thing again. hes tired badly in only 1 fight and do we forget rahman was knocked out and out of the ring by maskeav? beat and hurt by light hitting ruiz and a shot holyfield? sure,,he has a punchers chance against wlad,,,but wlad has an even better punchers chance and is a far more accurate puncher than rahman. I dont think rahman can get away from wlads right hand and wlad takes him out within 3 rounds

Rahman has a glass jaw he has problems swelling..If Klitch fights like his old self and with the cofidence he has now...NO ONE IN THE HW division can compare to him....damn he looked awesome today...he will have another belt by the end of this year.....just to bad its gonna come at the expense of another american fighter going down the tubes...

Problem is, its possible. Rahman can throw bombs and everyone knows about Wlad's chin. If this fight goes off, id take wlad, but there is a possibility rahman wins.
rahmans power is so overrated its laughable. he's physically strong but not a big puncher. all becuase he caught lewis with his hands by his side and his big chin saying "hit me". rahman hasnt kayoed anyone of note since lewis. sure he stopped meehan but hit him with how many punches and still couldnt drop him while danny williams took him out with one shot in the first round. rahman has a good left jab and descent right hand but little else.

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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rahman was robbed in a fight with a short fat toney that landed shots on him at will. :rolleyes:
wlad beats rahman worse than toney did. if toney had any heavyweight power rahman would have been ko'ed in the fourth round of that fight.
sorry to spoil your party but wlad beats ram one with ease.

I think that the "new" Wlad, who seems to have benefited a great deal from Manny's expertise (better conditioned, perhaps, and definitely knows how to pace himself better) would probably win in a fight against Rahman, simply because Rahman would have trouble getting to the agile, fast-fisted Wlad. Hard to say for sure, though, since Rahman hits WAY harder than Chris Byrd, and I bet that Wlad will be shaky under the Rock's heavy fire no matter what magic Stewart has been able to work on him...

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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Rock was robbed in that fight against Toney.

I can't write off Wlad in a fight against Rock though. IMO - Wlad handle's Rock the same way he handled Peter.

Rock could KO Wlad, but Wlad could KO Rock.

the same rahman that cant knock out an overweight toney

Good joke. I want to see winner of Liakhovich vs Brewster fight Wlad next. Rahman doesn't deserve to fight the real champ.
rahman is the real champ PERIOD...

rahman is the real champ PERIOD...

go sell crazy someplace else, we're stock full here

go sell crazy someplace else, we're stock full here
who has vitali's belts? who chased the champ away?

I think Wlad willl dominate the division now

rahman, has a pistol jab. as you saw against williams and vitali, you cant bully your way in if your the smaller fighter. you have to box your way in.

and rahmans pistol like jab will bust wlad up.

going on the premisis that vitali didnt wanna fight rahman, id say the same for wlad.

Well Rahman has to get by Maskaev first and that ain't gonna happen! Maskaev will ko Rahman within 5 rounds. Rahman's chin is just as bad if not worse then Maskaev's plus Maskaev already brutally ko'd Rahman. If Wlad and Rahman got it on it would be about a 2, maybe three round brutal blowout in favor of Wlad. One right hand from Wlad on Rahman's glass jaw and the fight will be over. Rahman is also 10 times easier to hit then Byrd.

Sorry no way, and although Rahman can go the distance, he looked pretty buggered against Toney at the end of the fight, he could be in better shape.

Wlad already beat a heavy handed brawler in the form of Samuel Peter. Why does everyone doubt him in a Rahman fight? Do you Wlad haters think Rahman can actually beat Peter?!?!?! If you do, you are all delusional

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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it's possible that Rahman can Ko Wlad. Very possible. It is also possibile that Wlad would F up Rahman. would love to see rahman vs wlad

it's possible that Rahman can Ko Wlad. Very possible. It is also possibile that Wlad would F up Rahman. would love to see rahman vs wlad

Rahman doesn't deserve to fight Wlad yet. Let Wlad take on Valuev and in that time, Rahman can hopefully beat someone convincingly. Rahman couldn't beat a bloated, over-weight, out of shape Toney...how can he beat a Wlad who looked like he was in the best shape to date of his life?

how can anyone even say that rahman has no chance

anyway wladimir needs to learn to go to the body. Especially when he has his opponent in trouble

it'll be a nice paiting but i dont count on wlad being ko'ed. tonight he rpved he can be deadly and smart too

lol Props to Byrd!?

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .

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** I agree that Rock was robbed against Fatboy, but what Wlad did against Byrd he would do easier against Fatboy. Rock didn't have to worry about incoming against Fatboy. Wlad's jab lands harder than Fatboys best right hand. Byrd is a much trickier fighter who can mount an offense, something Fatboy lacks.

Wlad has a better chin than Rahman, is bigger, faster, and younger. Another midround stoppage for Wlad.

he couldnt KO an overweight blown up middleweight james toney and hes gonna KO a guy whos 240lbs and a good 4 inches taller than him?

sam peter couldnt even KO wlad, and he hits 1000 times harder than rahman does.

no, rock will not KO wlad.

Rahman doesnt move enough, he's too short, and he will walk into Wlad's quick jab all night. When he tries to unload that powerful right of his, Wlad will make him miss and pay every time. Wlad will stop Rahman, if Rahman even gets the chance to fight Wlad. Maskaev might not his block off again.

Confidence.

And if you didin't know by now, now you know. Yesterday's fight is what Wlad looked like before he lost to Corrie Sanders by knockout. Nobody could touch him, and he walked through everyone one after another.

he couldnt KO an overweight blown up middleweight james toney and hes gonna KO a guy whos 240lbs and a good 4 inches taller than him?

sam peter couldnt even KO wlad, and he hits 1000 times harder than rahman does.
no, rock will not KO wlad.

how the hell do you know that? where did this assumption that Peter hits really hard come from?

Confidence.

And if you didin't know by now, now you know. Yesterday's fight is what Wlad looked like before he lost to Corrie Sanders by knockout. Nobody could touch him, and he walked through everyone one after another.
I dont really think that Wlad will be as aggressive with Rock if they are to fight. The fight would be far more tactical until Klit learns how Hasim reacts to his right hand. He will prolly use his left hook more cause Hasim likes to drop that left hand at times.

I dont really think that Wlad will be as aggressive with Rock if they are to fight. The fight would be far more tactical until Klit learns how Hasim reacts to his right hand. He will prolly use his left hook more cause Hasim likes to drop that left hand at times.

Oh no doubt.

I was just pointing out he's confident now.

Larry: "Wladimir, what would you say to people that question your chin or your ability to take a punch?"

Wladimir: "Yes, well I'm not going to prove my chin before I try and knock my opponent out"

Can Rahman get to him before he gets shallocked? I doubt it.

rahman, has a pistol jab. as you saw against williams and vitali, you cant bully your way in if your the smaller fighter. you have to box your way in.

and rahmans pistol like jab will bust wlad up.

going on the premisis that vitali didnt wanna fight rahman, id say the same for wlad.

wlads jab is much better though it's snapping and he was throwing byrds head back from it, I never saw rahman do that to toney

rahman, has a pistol jab. as you saw against williams and vitali, you cant bully your way in if your the smaller fighter. you have to box your way in.

and rahmans pistol like jab will bust wlad up.

going on the premisis that vitali didnt wanna fight rahman, id say the same for wlad.
oh please. rahman has a good jab but its far from wlads. wlads is quicker and more thudding. rahmans defense just isnt good enough to win this fight, wlad gets there first and stops him within 5 rounds

You know I don't know If Rahman gonna get past Maskeave (who isnt that good) Ijust want Oleg to win so we have all the belts. But I think that fight is 50/50..Now, yes like Lewis Wlad can be KOed, but when its a 50/50 fight when yer in against Oleg Maskeav you have very little if any against a guy like Wlad. I personaly think Vlad should push for a fight with one of the belt holders... But he wasnt even bruised in his last fight so either look for him to fight Sergei for the WBO (who is Don Kings whore so who knows)or a defense before a unification fight... I wonder if Toney still thinks that there will nevr be a white champ :cool:

Despite Wlad's suspect chin,I don't think Rahman would KO
him.I like Hasim,but he is still way too lazy in that ring
for my liking.

i would be surprised to see a rahman/klitschko match.

why? because don king won't let klitschko anywhere near hasim. best to listen to me when i say wladimir klitschko is picking up steam and getting back into the mix - big time. i don't see any heavyweight out there that has a better jab, hook, or straight right. and against byrd, he has shown that he is now comfortable throwing uppercuts and shovel-hooks(aka upperhooks) and launched a couple of thunderous overhands. wk's offensive prowess rivals that of the best offensively skilled heavyweights from any era. now, his defence is getting some upgrading as well. notice the way he would get in close and suddenly angle himslef off to the side poised to strike. also loved the phonebooth fighting he did when byrd was in trouble. sharp, explosive, and accurate punching.

as i see it, wladimir is ready for anyone at anytime, and i'd say it's only a matter of who wants to sign on the dotted line.

if the other beltholders don't want none, it seems like he possibly has a good fight set up with calvin brock(ranked in the top 5 in 3 divisions and in the top ten in the wbo).

remember, if anyone is trying to keep the titles apart, it's don king. look at rahman - a fight with toney, a fight with maskaev, and another fight with toney. doesn't seem like they have plans for a unification anytime soon.

valuev has stated that he would prefer to fight klitschko as he feels klitschko is the best - and rightfully so. but, don king has at least some options over who he fights.

now onto liakhovich. the guy wins one great fight and all of a sudden there is a ton of people who think that he is truly a top tier heavy. one good win(and a great fight as well) don't make him an established top fiver - but for the time being, yes. let's give sergei a couple more fights(or a few more depending on his comp) before some of you get all nuts about him. okay?

You know I don't know If Rahman gonna get past Maskeave (who isnt that good) Ijust want Oleg to win so we have all the belts. But I think that fight is 50/50..Now, yes like Lewis Wlad can be KOed, but when its a 50/50 fight when yer in against Oleg Maskeav you have very little if any against a guy like Wlad. I personaly think Vlad should push for a fight with one of the belt holders... But he wasnt even bruised in his last fight so either look for him to fight Sergei for the WBO (who is Don Kings whore so who knows)or a defense before a unification fight... I wonder if Toney still thinks that there will nevr be a white champ :cool:

Who is this cunt???

Why do these KKK Nazi ****ers speak of Maskaev and Wlad?

Why dont you **** off and have one of your nazi bastards stand into the ring?

why was he a nazi...cause he wants european champs? Besides it was james toney who made trhat "never be a white champ" racist remark...Know wtf you are talkin about before you speak..you inbred jed

Rahman certainly has a chance. Theres always gonna be a little uncertainty when you've got a guy with a questionable chin and the other has a big punch. If I had to put my house on it, definately Wlad. :boxing: :boxing:

Who is this cunt???

Why do these KKK Nazi ****ers speak of Maskaev and Wlad?

Why dont you **** off and have one of your nazi bastards stand into the ring?

These statments are childish and out of order :(

Who is this cunt???

Why do these KKK Nazi ****ers speak of Maskaev and Wlad?

Why dont you **** off and have one of your nazi bastards stand into the ring?

why would a nazi cheer for a slav?

These comments are more of a white suprematist type of thing.
Which is completely intolerable. Boxing is not about your ethnic or religious background.

Who is this cunt???

Why do these KKK Nazi ****ers speak of Maskaev and Wlad?

Why dont you **** off and have one of your nazi bastards stand into the ring?

im with you man.

millions of brave men fought and died for freedom and equality against Hitler, who had these exact views, and you get pricks like this tryin to spread that **** again.

One word, BAN!!!

One word, BAN!!!

ban him for what exactly?

i read what my buddy h8 said and it was not even close to nazi...he simply said that he wanted Maskaev to win so that europeans would hold all the Heavybelts...man you kids here sure do have alot of white guilt :rolleyes:


are ppl that afraid of white champs? :confused:

Rahman sucks as a Boxer, is slow as ****, and cant take a punch !
Wlad rapes Rahman for 4 round and puts him away for good !

Wlad by easy KO !

i read what my buddy h8 said and it was not even close to nazi...he simply said that he wanted Maskaev to win so that europeans would hold all the Heavybelts...man you kids here sure do have alot of white guilt :rolleyes:


are ppl that afraid of white champs? :confused:

What?

I just dont like when some KKK Americans involve a by standing Ukrainian like Klitschko or someone like Maskaev is some racial beef.

Im Ukraianin and Klitschkos are my boys but I sure as hell dont want some Nazi to be hugging his nuts just he happens to share the same skin colour.

iiiiigh?

why would a nazi cheer for a slav?

These KKKers and skinheads are so retarted that they dont even know what hilter really stood for.

They just see black, white, jew, ch*nk.

These statments are childish and out of order :(

lol....this is not the first time when some white supermist from America sides with either Klitschko just because they are white.

why was he a nazi...cause he wants european champs? Besides it was james toney who made trhat "never be a white champ" racist remark...Know wtf you are talkin about before you speak..you inbred jed


Well I'm sorry, but that is not the imperation his post gave off.

What do you expect me to think of the guy who has an Israely flag burning in his avatar and speak of "white champs" ???

Problem is, its possible. Rahman can throw bombs and everyone knows about Wlad's chin. If this fight goes off, id take wlad, but there is a possibility rahman wins.
What about Rahman's chin? The ****ing guy got knocked out of the ring by scrub Maskaev. Rahman is too ****ing slow to keep up with Wlad. In the Toney vs Rahman fight, Rahman looked like he was fighting while standing in molasses. I would give Rahman a chance against Wlad only if Rahman stops bulking up and gets more definition in his physique like he looked against Meehan.

Well I'm sorry, but that is not the imperation his post gave off.

What do you expect me to think of the guy who has an Israely flag burning in his avatar and speak of "white champs" ???

His israely flag thing..well it's in suport of Palestine.. I think :confused: buddy there are plenty of Mexicans who support mexicans here, plenty of blacks who support their black fighters, he was just supporting white fighters...Like i said white guilt here is outta control

i dident even read that **** im just telling your right now wlad > rahman under 5.

wlad was still catching his breath in the interview with larry merchant lol

ok, i dont wanna spoil anyones party. but I think Rock knocks wlad out. Wlad has suspect chin and tires easily. Rock has good right hand and an excellent jab. he can also go 12 rounds. hes not the best fighter around but hes good enough to beat Wlad.


Rock was robbed in that toney fight but this time he will KO wlad so theres no doubt left :) .



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Rahman tried to duck the second fight against Lewis because he knew he got lucky the first time. I seriously doubt he would even take the fight against Klitschko, he knows it is a sure loser.

I think that Rahman's handspeed has looked terrible in his last couple of fights. All of these boxing writers talking about his "immense potential" and I really don't see it. I really do not think that he could beat Klitschko, and him versus Wlad would look a lot like his second fight against Lennox Lewis.