a. hate can not be overcome
b. rematch brewster
c. unify major belts
d. other

I don't like him and never will.

Buy'em a beer...
BTW I just got one.

I don't like him and never will.

and why is that?

I don't like him and never will.



Whose alt are you? :)

Are you Neils?

dont like him but then again i dont hate him but for me to like him hes gotta give me my moneys worth tonight and maybe knock bryd out in about 8 rounds which aint gonna happen

I like Wlad. He is exciting. A Wlad fight can become an event just like LL, because there is always that chance that he might be KO'D

he needs to go back in time and beat corrie sanders and lamon brewster. then the haters will have respect.

I would say beat Brewster, but I doubt even that would work

He had Sam Peter in trouble but failed to make an effort to finish him. If Wladimir Klitschko wants to get the fans onside he has to act more like Joe Louis and less like Lennox Lewis. :boxing:

He had Sam Peter in trouble but failed to make an effort to finish him. If Wladimir Klitschko wants to get the fans onside he has to act more like Joe Louis and less like Lennox Lewis. :boxing:
I think it was the other way around. Peter had him hurt by crushing him to the ground 3 times.

I think it was the other way around. Peter had him hurt by crushing him to the ground 3 times.


Yeah, but 2 out of 3 times were caused by rabbit punches followed by pushes. Those were illegal. The third time did not even have to happen -- Wlad was gassed out and lost balance.

So none of these count. :D

he needs to jump off
a bridge

Yeah, but 2 out of 3 times were caused by rabbit punches followed by pushes. Those were illegal. The third time did not even have to happen -- Wlad was gassed out and lost balance.

So none of these count. :D
I've only watched the fight once. So really I can't argue but I remember 3 knock downs and don't remember it having any questionable knock downs. I thought they were clear knock downs, I think they were scored as clear knock downs.

I've only watched the fight once. So really I can't argue but I remember 3 knock downs and don't remember it having any questionable knock downs. I thought they were clear knock downs, I think they were scored as clear knock downs.


yes, they were scored as knock downs, and wlad did go down. however, 2 of the 3 were caused by quite clear rabbit punches. :)

Racial hatred can't be overcome through education.

yes, they were scored as knock downs, and wlad did go down. however, 2 of the 3 were caused by quite clear rabbit punches. :)
I'll have to watch it again. I was hoping Peter would get the KO in that fight.

The "haters" so to speak wont every like Wlad... but asking them to respect him is another story. If he can win tonight decisevely, and continue to win while unifying some belts you can't not respect him. Granted the odds of that happening are slim to nill given the current climate of the HW division, but hey, a guy can dream.

1)he will need a style not based on being near 7 foot.

2)he will need a fan base of people who really enjoy boxing, and are not watching him because they want a white champion, and therefore can watch two lumpering giants and fool themself into thinking they are anything but twin p.o.s.

3)he will need to get his confidince back.

4)he will need to go back in time and stop universum from padding his record and cheating for him so that he could win against bums.

5)beating brewster and sanders is not nessisary but fighting well aginst them is.

6)he will need an offical website where the forums are not filled with white supremacist.(it was very disturbing to go there.)

I don't hate Wlad... there are probably some fighters I'd pull for him to beat, but I don't really like him. The problem is that there is probably only one reason I don't really like him... HBO. I got so tired of Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley cheerleading for him before his loss to Corey Sanders I thought I was going to have to throw something at the tv. During a Wlad fight, he would hit someone and knock that boxer in the ropes and the HBO crew would be "wow, what power! ____ (insert boxer's name here) was clearly hurt!" But when someone knocked Wlad into the ropes they would be "I think that was a trip more than anything else..." or "Wlad isn't hurt at all!"

I shouldn't let commentators sway me either way for a fighter but I can't help it. I didn't like Mosely at first (I do now for some reason), don't like Trinidad, don't like Taylor.. mainly b/c of HBO's bias comments during their fights. I've always thought that commentators should be neutral (Teddy Atlas does a good job of this I believe). Anyway, stupid reasoning on my part. I was jumping up and down in glee when Sanders knocked out Wlad... and the only reason why was b/c it would finally shut Larry and Jim up about him. But in all honesty, I didn't like Sanders any more or less than I liked WK.

1)he will need a style not based on being near 7 foot.

2)he will need a fan base of people who really enjoy boxing, and are not watching him because they want a white champion, and therefore can watch two lumpering giants and fool themself into thinking they are anything but twin p.o.s.

3)he will need to get his confidince back.

4)he will need to go back in time and stop universum from padding his record and cheating for him so that he could win against bums.

5)beating brewster and sanders is not nessisary but fighting well aginst them is.

6)he will need an offical website where the forums are not filled with white supremacist.(it was very disturbing to go there.)


....This post should have been titled "I hate white people".

Damn, cant we all get along.
All this black/white stuff is getting old.
Cant u understand that HW boxing needs one champ that is good, and it does not matter what race or religion is he.

white people are fine,(they can be racist without ever realizing it, and i find that disturbing, but not hateful) i just dont like you.

Damn, cant we all get along.
All this black/white stuff is getting old.
Cant u understand that HW boxing needs one champ that is good, and it does not matter what race or religion is he.
that is what i am saying .

white people are fine,(they can be racist without ever realizing it, and i find that disturbing, but not hateful) i just dont like you.


....Yeah, I don't like you either and I can smell you and your bull**** a mile away. Militant racists are like cartoon characters. Your agenda is laughable.

that is what i am saying .


lol lol Could have fooled me with all the (Wlad's fans are all white Supremists bull****).

I am a Klit fan, and I am def. not a white suprematist.
hey, if any of them had a chance they would have prolly lynched me already.

....Yeah, I don't like you either and I can smell you and your bull**** a mile away. Militant racists are like cartoon characters. Your agenda is laughable.

ooh! now im militant. when did that become an insult? the b.p.p.f.s.d., malcome X., martain l. king, snic, ali, mandela
where all called militant racists so im in good company.

lol (im a dork) lol (im a dork) Could have fooled me with all the (Wlad's fans are all white Supremists bull****).


i didnt say all his fans, i said their fan site is full of them.
but you take it how you what. your just a tiny man who will be laughed at tonight after the fight.

Why is it every time a guy claims he likes the Klits it turns into a race thing? Can't somebody just like a fighter?

ooh! now im militant. when did that become an insult? the b.p.p.f.s.d., malcome X., martain l. king, snic, ali, mandela
where all called militant racists so im in good company.




i didnt say all his fans, i said their fan site is full of them.
but you take it how you what. your just a tiny man who will be laughed at tonight after the fight.


...Just make sure you bring your sorry ass back to this very thread so I can laugh at your chump ass when your boy gets beatdown again. :D

Why is it every time a guy claims he likes the Klits it turns into a race thing? Can't somebody just like a fighter?
im sorry you feel like that. im very sorry if i've made you feel like that.
but my problem with the klits has always been people turning them in to great fighters when they just arnt.

i like alot of fighters that arnt great, micky ward , gatti, agustus, briggs, mo harris.

but i never claimed they where the second coming, klit fans do, not all, but a large proportion of their fans seem to be guys who dont care about boxing,just that a heavyweight champ maybe someone they can identify with.

to that end they have gotten many considiritions that fighters of their class dont.

after his two ko loses wlad should have been fighting on fnf but his next fight was on ppv.

vital went almost 2 years without definding his title.


its things like that that make it hard to be a klit fan.

i loved watching botha fight, morris too they alwasy came to fight even if they wernt the best.

and it will be hard for me to be a fan of theirs till people stop treating them as if there the best when their not.

he has to stay on his feet. he has to knock tyrd out, he has to rematch and knock brewster out. he has to knock out valuev within five. and then he has to drop hugo boss. and stop having naked photos taken with his brother. and then maybe he will get some respect.

1)he will need a style not based on being near 7 foot.

You cannot be serious...

So in your ideal world people should not fight to their advatanges? Jones, Floyd and Toney shouldnt rely on their reflexes? Whats wrong with how Klitchko fights?? Hes a classic boxer puncher, a good boxer with the best jab in the division and a ton of power.

im sorry you feel like that. im very sorry if i've made you feel like that.
but my problem with the klits has always been people turning them in to great fighters when they just arnt.

i like alot of fighters that arnt great, micky ward , gatti, agustus, briggs, mo harris.

but i never claimed they where the second coming, klit fans do, not all, but a large proportion of their fans seem to be guys who dont care about boxing,just that a heavyweight champ maybe someone they can identify with.

to that end they have gotten many considiritions that fighters of their class dont.

after his two ko loses wlad should have been fighting on fnf but his next fight was on ppv.

vital went almost 2 years without definding his title.


its things like that that make it hard to be a klit fan.

i loved watching botha fight, morris too they alwasy came to fight even if they wernt the best.

and it will be hard for me to be a fan of theirs till people stop treating them as if there the best when their not.


...Anything to say Mr. Nadz???

.....Still nothing Mr. Nadz??? What a pathetic chicken ****. You were gonna come back and heckle me when your boy won. Lets here you give credit where credit is due.