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Dempsey 1919
06-03-2006, 11:52 PM
Man, this is ****ing stupid.

Then don't come on this thread. :rolleyes:

Smokin'
06-03-2006, 11:54 PM
it's just so poorly written, and why would anyone give a **** what you have to say about a fight. You know nothing about the fight game.

When you compare fighters all you compare is size, speed, and power. There are more aspects then that in boxing, friend.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:00 AM
this guy loves liston almost as much as butterfly does :D

http://www.antekprizering.com/listonharris3470pa.jpeg

nah i'm just kidding with you, you know that right :confused:

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:06 AM
it's just so poorly written, and why would anyone give a **** what you have to say about a fight. You know nothing about the fight game.

When you compare fighters all you compare is size, speed, and power. There are more aspects then that in boxing, friend.

Ok, "friend". Tell me what's so poorly written about it.

Smokin'
06-04-2006, 12:07 AM
Sorry, it just makes no sense. It's poorly written as in it looks like a 14 or 15 year old is writing it.

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:09 AM
why would anyone give a **** what you have to say about a fight.

Well idiot, they obviously do if you just open your eyes and look at all the comments and the people reading this thread, retard. :rolleyes:

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:09 AM
Sorry, it just makes no sense. It's poorly written as in it looks like a 14 or 15 year old is writing it.

Care to elaborate?

Smokin'
06-04-2006, 12:11 AM
I mean, the vocabulary is awful, the fight predictions are awful and the way you word your sentences are awful. Basically, it's awful.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:13 AM
Take it to the thunderdome :luvbed:

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:15 AM
I mean, [b]the vocabulary is awful[b], the fight predictions are awful and the way you word your sentences are awful. Basically, it's awful.

Oh really? Cause I used words you don't understand? lol!

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:16 AM
Take it to the thunderdome :luvbed:

Tell me honestly, are the matchups poorly written in your poinion, I mean vocabulary wise?

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:18 AM
Reviewing threads looking for gramatical errors.....
I'd like to think I write essays very well but when i post on forums i tend to let my i's stay lower case :D

I need to review because I only read a few of the rounds and then winner because I have a short attention span for reading stuff on a computer screen. A book i can read but this cancerous screen gives me a headache.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:24 AM
Tell me honestly, are the matchups poorly written in your poinion, I mean vocabulary wise?
To be honest it depends what your going for

When you write sounds more like an announcer announcing the fight which is what i think you were going for. It Doesn't sound like a formal essay with the long sentences and descriptive words which is what Smokin' is lookin for.

It sounds more like an announcer saying it into the mic which is what your saying. With short sentences and sometimes not proper sentences.

Some sentences are Essay like but i think your trying to stay more true to the Announcer persona (spelling?)

Example:
Rather then saying
George Foreman is down in the 8th round of this fight. He's bleeding from the mouth as Muhammad Ali raises his arms in proud victory for his win.

your saying
and Foremans down in the 8th round. he doesn't get up and Ali is dancing in hysteria for winning against Foreman.

Smokin'
06-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Be honest butterfly, have you actually seen footage of Johnson/Dempsey?

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Be honest butterfly, have you actually seen footage of Johnson/Dempsey?
I've seen footage on both of those fighters, there's little footage of Dempsey

There's even less of Johnson.
I saw part of one Johnson fight and I think they only have like 2 of his fights anyway

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:29 AM
To be honest it depends what your going for

When you write sounds more like an announcer announcing the fight which is what i think you were going for. It Doesn't sound like a formal essay with the long sentences and descriptive words which is what Smokin' is lookin for.

It sounds more like an announcer saying it into the mic which is what your saying. With short sentences and sometimes not proper sentences.

Some sentences are Essay like but i think your trying to stay more true to the Announcer persona (spelling?)

Example:
Rather then saying
George Foreman is down in the 8th round of this fight. He's bleeding from the mouth as Muhammad Ali raises his arms in proud victory for his win.

your saying
and Foremans down in the 8th round. he doesn't get up and Ali is dancing in hysteria for winning against Foreman.

Yeah, well the announcer persona is what I was trying to portray. The only thing wrong with it is that I oftentimes use lower case when I shouln't, because sometimes I don't feel like pressing the shift key :D , and I type so fast that I make a few spelling errors, but that's about it. The vocabulary I use I believe is pretty high level at times, and I give a detailed description of the prefight, the fight, in between rounds, and the post fight. I think overall I did a good job.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:35 AM
Yeah, well the announcer persona is what I was trying to portray. The only thing wrong with it is that I oftentimes use lower case when I shouln't, because sometimes I don't feel like pressing the shift key :D , and I type so fast that I make a few spelling errors, but that's about it. The vocabulary I use I believe is pretty high level at times, and I give a detailed description of the prefight, the fight, in between rounds, and the post fight. I think overall I did a good job.
I do the same thing, if i wanted to i could type every post as if it where an essay but i mean its a forum i'd rather type fast and as if i were talking to somebody rather then type it like an essay. All my teachers and professors say i write beatifully but whatever

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:35 AM
Be honest butterfly, have you actually seen footage of Johnson/Dempsey?

"Have you actually seen footage of Johnson/Dempsey?"

OF COURSE I'VE SEEN THEIR FIGHTS, RETARD! WHY THE HELL WOULD I WRITE ABOUT THEM AND NOT HAVE AN INCLING OF HOW THEY FIGHT OR NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM?! :confused:

They are my two favorite fighters anyway(besides ali of course), and i have five fights of johnson and six fights of dempsey in my collection and i have seen a total of 13 fights between the two. Does that answer your question buddy? :rolleyes:

Yogi
06-04-2006, 12:37 AM
I've seen footage on both of those fighters, there's little footage of Dempsey

There's even less of Johnson.
I saw part of one Johnson fight and I think they only have like 2 of his fights anyway

There's a fair amount of footage of both Dempsey & Johnson, Rock. A lot of their fights are no longer available, but of each of them these are the fights that are still avaiable on film today;

Johnson versus Burns, Flynn, Moran, Willard, Jeffries, Ketchel...umm, those are the ones I can bring to memory off hand, and I've seen footage of them all except the Moran fight.

Dempsey versus Willard, Carpentier, Brennan, Firpo, Tunney (x2), Sharkey, Gibbons...I've seen footage from all of those.

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:37 AM
I do the same thing, if i wanted to i could type every post as if it where an essay but i mean its a forum i'd rather type fast and as if i were talking to somebody rather then type it like an essay. All my teachers and professors say i write beatifully but whatever

Yeah, I mean this joker is the only person to say that I write like trash, so obviously he's just trying to get under my skin.

Yogi
06-04-2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, I mean this joker is the only person to say that I write like trash, so obviously he's just trying to get under my skin.

You write like trash, Butterfly. :p

Smokin'
06-04-2006, 12:40 AM
There's a fair amount of footage of both Dempsey & Johnson, Rock. A lot of their fights are no longer available, but of each of them these are the fights that are still avaiable on film today;

Johnson versus Burns, Flynn, Moran, Willard, Jeffries, Ketchel...umm, those are the ones I can bring to memory off hand, and I've seen footage of them all except the Moran fight.

Dempsey versus Willard, Carpentier, Brennan, Firpo, Tunney (x2), Sharkey, Gibbons...I've seen footage from all of those.

I also have clips of all the fights you mentioned. Thing with butterfly, I really doubt he has seen any footage. His fight analysis consist of "Fighter A is a better boxer, and has more speed, he would outquick Fighter B". What a bunch of bull**** that is.

And that Dempsey KO Johnson in 4 rounds I laughed out loud at. Dempsey (the master of feints) would easily get outfeinted in this one. He would get outclassed easily. But then again, it's butterfly's opinion (albeit a crap one), so I shouldn't diss it.

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:42 AM
You write like trash, Butterfly. :p

How is it up there in Canada? It's burning up right now in Brooklyn. :firedevil

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:44 AM
I also have clips of all the fights you mentioned. Thing with butterfly, I really doubt he has seen any footage. His fight analysis consist of "Fighter A is a better boxer, and has more speed, he would outquick Fighter B". What a bunch of bull**** that is.

And that Dempsey KO Johnson in 4 rounds I laughed out loud at. Dempsey (the master of feints) would easily get outfeinted in this one. He would get outclassed easily. But then again, it's butterfly's opinion (albeit a crap one), so I shouldn't diss it.

Why don't you read the other fights before you start talking garbage? I did have johnson win a few fights. :rolleyes:

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:45 AM
There's a fair amount of footage of both Dempsey & Johnson, Rock. A lot of their fights are no longer available, but of each of them these are the fights that are still avaiable on film today;

Johnson versus Burns, Flynn, Moran, Willard, Jeffries, Ketchel...umm, those are the ones I can bring to memory off hand, and I've seen footage of them all except the Moran fight.

Dempsey versus Willard, Carpentier, Brennan, Firpo, Tunney (x2), Sharkey, Gibbons...I've seen footage from all of those.
I was exagerating a bit
though i didn't think that many of Johnsons fights were on film but i was sure that Dempsey had more fights on film then johnson.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:46 AM
I also have clips of all the fights you mentioned. Thing with butterfly, I really doubt he has seen any footage. His fight analysis consist of "Fighter A is a better boxer, and has more speed, he would outquick Fighter B". What a bunch of bull**** that is.

And that Dempsey KO Johnson in 4 rounds I laughed out loud at. Dempsey (the master of feints) would easily get outfeinted in this one. He would get outclassed easily. But then again, it's butterfly's opinion (albeit a crap one), so I shouldn't diss it.

I don't usually agree with Butterfly but i think Dempsey would beat Johnson maybe not in 4 but he'd do it in under 7. Not because Johnson would let him but because the latter rounds were dangerous for Dempsey because his stamina would start to wear away. I think Johnson as an ok Fighter but he has a very padded record and a legacy blown out of proportion.

Yogi
06-04-2006, 12:46 AM
How is it up there in Canada? It's burning up right now in Brooklyn. :firedevil

It's gorgeous up here where I am, Buterfly...fresh air, lush green trees on the mountains in the background, not too warm. Just about perfect weather for an old fart like myself.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 12:48 AM
It's gorgeous up here where I am, Buterfly...fresh air, lush green trees on the mountains in the background, not too warm. Just about perfect weather for an old fart like myself.
Down here in the tri-state area it sucks. Raining like crazy for the last couple of days. Air thick with pollution and so many people just trying to cause trouble. I hate the Armpit of America.

Dempsey 1919
06-04-2006, 12:49 AM
It's gorgeous up here where I am, Buterfly...fresh air, lush green trees on the mountains in the background, not too warm. Just about perfect weather for an old fart like myself.

I envy you. I spend most of my time on the urinal because all the liquid I gotta put into my body to cambat this stiffling heat. :eek:

Smokin'
06-04-2006, 12:53 AM
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I don't usually agree with Butterfly but i think Dempsey would beat Johnson maybe not in 4 but he'd do it in under 7. Not because Johnson would let him but because the latter rounds were dangerous for Dempsey because his stamina would start to wear away. I think Johnson as an ok Fighter but he has a very padded record and a legacy blown out of proportion.

Johnson's legacy has been blown out of proportion? What about Dempsey? You saw him get outclassed by Tunney didn't you?

Anyways, Johnson was just masterful at keeping opponents on the outside. And when they tried to get inside, he would just turn them and punish them. Johnson also looked really good when he would just paw out the jab, and stop a guy right in his tracks trying to get in. For all its worth, Dempsey's 'bobbing and weaving' is really overated. I see it as mostly wasted energy. He did have a good right hand though. It was really sneaky, especially when he looped it. It was his best punch IMO but I don't think it would fool Johnson.

Yogi
06-04-2006, 12:54 AM
I envy you. I spend most of my time on the urinal because all the liquid I gotta put into my body to cambat this stiffling heat. :eek:

Yeah, I hate the heat myself...It's about 20 degrees celsius outside right now and that's about perfect for me. But we had a hot spell a few weeks ago where it got up into the mid 30's, and we're going to get that again before too long...We get really hot summers up here, but I can't complain too much because this part of Canada is easily the warmest part of the country (rarely gets below 0 degrees celsius in the winter, and we get very little snow...if it does snow it usually melts within a couple of days, unless it's up in the mountains).

Yogi
06-04-2006, 01:00 AM
I was exagerating a bit
though i didn't think that many of Johnsons fights were on film but i was sure that Dempsey had more fights on film then johnson.

Rock, I have some Dempsey fights on my computer that I'd be happy to pass along to you if you want...I think I have his fights with Willard, Carpentier, Tunney (both), Gibbons, Firpo on this thing...In fact I think the only two fights that I don't have of his on here in the one with Brennan (have it on tape) and the one with Sharkey (don't have it at all, with the exception of a small highlight on tape).

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 01:00 AM
Johnson's legacy has been blown out of proportion? What about Dempsey? You saw him get outclassed by Tunney didn't you?

Anyways, Johnson was just masterful at keeping opponents on the outside. And when they tried to get inside, he would just turn them and punish them. Johnson also looked really good when he would just paw out the jab, and stop a guy right in his tracks trying to get in. For all its worth, Dempsey's 'bobbing and weaving' is really overated. I see it as mostly wasted energy. He did have a good right hand though. It was really sneaky, especially when he looped it. It was his best punch IMO but I don't think it would fool Johnson.

IMO Dempsey was past his prime v tunney and he still beat tunney (long count), Tunney was down for i think it was 16 seconds and even then needed the ropes to get up.

and yes Johnson's legacy was blown out of proportion, he has the most padded record ever. thing is most of his publicity is because he was a black fighter beating up white fighters who were "bums" or "tomato cans" or w.e you want to call them. These White fighters were considered to be superior to black fighters but lets face it just because your white doesn't make you a better person/fighter. Johnson beat up some of these fighters and people said my God he must be like a superman to be an inferior black guy (though they didn't say black guy) beating up white guys. So they needed a white guy to "put him back in his place" so they got the "white hope" old,fat,over the hill, way past his prime james j. jefferies to fight Johnson and what a surprise Johnson beat him (though I have to say Its pretty wierd that Johnson took 15 rounds to put down such bad Jefferies if thats any proof).

The fact is Johnson was a decent fighter, he had speed, and he turned his punches well, and he put all his weight behinds his punches. He also had a formidable defence, but the fact is he wasn't a great, he was decent/good fighter.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 01:02 AM
Rock, I have some Dempsey fights on my computer that I'd be happy to pass along to you if you want...I think I have his fights with Willard, Carpentier, Tunney (both), Gibbons, Firpo on this thing...In fact I think the only two fights that I don't have of his on here in the one with Brennan (have it on tape) and the one with Sharkey (don't have it at all, with the exception of a small highlight on tape).
huh that'd be awesome not tonite maybe another night but i'd like that

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 01:04 AM
Yeah, I hate the heat myself...It's about 20 degrees celsius outside right now and that's about perfect for me. But we had a hot spell a few weeks ago where it got up into the mid 30's, and we're going to get that again before too long...We get really hot summers up here, but I can't complain too much because this part of Canada is easily the warmest part of the country (rarely gets below 0 degrees celsius in the winter, and we get very little snow...if it does snow it usually melts within a couple of days, unless it's up in the mountains).
For all those not fimiliar with Celcius (90% of people in america)
0 Degrees Celcius = 32 degrees Farenheit (freezing point)
100 Degrees Celcius = 212 degrees Farenhet (boiling point)

If your really that interested you can use this converter
Converter (http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm)

Yogi
06-04-2006, 01:05 AM
huh that'd be awesome not tonite maybe another night but i'd like that

Well, when you want them just say the word on what fights you'd like and I'll upload them for you.

Southpaw Stinger
06-04-2006, 07:41 AM
Yogi, would it be possible for you to upload the Dempsey Willard fight for me? My original copy was destroyed by my VCR - I swear those things have been programmed to blow up to force you to convert to DVD.

Anyway, I'd be very grateful if you could and I'd even fly to Canada and present you with a large sum of cash for troubles!

Yogi
06-04-2006, 01:25 PM
:o

After a few tries I was finally able to copy a link properly, Stinger...The download/proper link to the fight is the bottom one in the latest PM I sent you.

Southpaw Stinger
06-04-2006, 01:32 PM
Thanks man, haven't seen that one in ages. cheers!

SABBATH
06-04-2006, 03:10 PM
And that Dempsey KO Johnson in 4 rounds I laughed out loud at. Dempsey (the master of feints) would easily get outfeinted in this one. He would get outclassed easily. But then again, it's butterfly's opinion (albeit a crap one), so I shouldn't diss it.Butterfly,

I'm going to go with Smokin' on this one. My main issue is with Demsey ten counting Johnson with only one knockdown. In Dempsey's 8 title fights he scored 21 knockdowns with only 4 of those knockdowns being for the ten count.

Remember that Dempsey was wearing 5 oz horse hair gloves (harder) and with no neutral corner or mandatory 8 count rule for that matter was able to literally stand over his opponent after these knockdowns and hammer him back to the canvas. Even still his opponents were able to get up 17 times and continue.

If these mythical fights are being conducted under today's rules with 10 oz foam gloves I would hesitate to say Dempsey would KO Johnson with one shot, without at the very least having Johnson badly hurt or worn down. I definitely don't see Dempsey scoring a clean knockout of Johnson while he is still fresh and defensively sharp.

Yogi
06-04-2006, 03:56 PM
I think whomever best controls the pace of the fight between Dempsey & Johnson would be the one who ultimately came out on top, and in that case I think Johnson would have the edge in controlling the tempo...

I could see him mostly neutralizing Dempsey's early round aggression with his excellant strength in the clinches, a few left jabs & right crosses from distance, blocking/parrying the punches that Dempsey does get off (which wouldn't be as many as we normally saw, I don't think), and a little bit of footwork & reflexes in avoiding...Dempsey could be outfinessed if his opponent was reluctant to trade with him and fought more of the defensive game over the first few rounds, as we saw in the Tunney (past his best, but still), Brennan, Meehan, etc., which seemed to be Johnson's normal style in the early going...

Once Dempsey's aggression is reduced some, it's then I could see Johnson start taking over the fight as he starts throwing with more meaning on the inside when within clinching range, particularily with the excellant right uppercuts he possessed, and what seemed to be his favourite right uppercut/left hook combination.

Dempsey would always be dangerous in the fight and he could certainly hurt or drop Johnson for a count at some point in the point...but I like Johnson to overcome Dempsey's possible edge over the early rounds to take the close decision at the end of 15 rounds.

Brockton Lip
06-04-2006, 05:11 PM
:o

After a few tries I was finally able to copy a link properly, Stinger...The download/proper link to the fight is the bottom one in the latest PM I sent you.

Can you pm me the link too please since its uploaded?

Yogi
06-04-2006, 05:25 PM
Can you pm me the link too please since its uploaded?

I'll just put the link in here, Chum;

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G8FOOUYC

RockyMarcianofan00
06-04-2006, 06:00 PM
I'll just put the link in here, Chum;

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G8FOOUYC
it worked
I'll definitely be in touch for more fights :D
Many pts donated

Brassangel
06-04-2006, 11:30 PM
These fighters seem to go through crazy weight fluctuations at the right time, giving butterfly the results he wants. At any rate, I'll take some Dempsey footage, Yogi. It would sure beat the Ali vs. Liston final we're going to see.

Yogi
06-04-2006, 11:34 PM
At any rate, I'll take some Dempsey footage, Yogi.

Besides the Willard fight, is there anything from him that you'd like to see first, Brass?

Brassangel
06-04-2006, 11:53 PM
I think that the Carpenter, Willard, both Tunney's, and maybe Gibbons fights. If you know of any that really showcase his abilities, make a recommendation or two.

Yogi
06-05-2006, 02:35 PM
I think that the Carpenter, Willard, both Tunney's, and maybe Gibbons fights. If you know of any that really showcase his abilities, make a recommendation or two.

I'll just upload those fights for you in order, Brass, starting with the Carpentier fight...It should be in your PM box in about a half an hour or so.

P.S. There's a link a few posts up to the Dempsey/Willard fight in case you didn't see it.

Yogi
06-06-2006, 04:58 AM
Dempsey vs. Carpentier;

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=182C0CBF51D6147A

I hope at least Rock can grab that if he doesn't have it yet.

Yogi
06-06-2006, 05:22 AM
For Brass, Rock, and anyone else who's interested, here's about eight and a half minutes of Dempsey's fight with Tommy Gibbons;

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=240FCEC71F6A5E1A

Yogi
06-06-2006, 06:03 AM
Dempsey vs. Firpo;

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F97F90527D1B3B33

RockyMarcianofan00
06-06-2006, 06:18 AM
Thanks alot yogi
pts and k if i can

Yogi
06-06-2006, 06:24 AM
Thanks alot yogi
pts and k if i can

I'm happy to upload them for you, Rock, so don't worry about the points or karma...It's all good.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-06-2006, 06:29 AM
Tell me if there's anything i can do for you

my fight collection is small and not on my comp and besides any fight i have you most likely have/no where to get

so let me know if there's anything else i can do

Yogi
06-06-2006, 06:35 AM
I have quite a few fights on tape, Rock, and still have a bunch that I haven't even viewed yet. It's generous of you, but I'm just sharing what little I have on my computer with you or anybody else...

Hey, have you ever seen the great fight between Ron Lyle & Earnie Shavers?

If not, I'll upload that one for you.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-06-2006, 06:41 AM
I have quite a few fights on tape, Rock, and still have a bunch that I haven't even viewed yet. It's generous of you, but I'm just sharing what little I have on my computer with you or anybody else...

Hey, have you ever seen the great fight between Ron Lyle & Earnie Shavers?

If not, I'll upload that one for you.
Nope can't say that I have
If you have any Rocky marciano fights i'd love them
I lost all mine when my comp crashed in the latter part of April

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I love watching old fights
Old Fights = Prime Tyson and before
Even some new fights are ok to watch too

I don't expect you to upload your entire fight collection just ones that you like

Yogi
06-06-2006, 06:47 AM
Nope can't say that I have
If you have any Rocky marciano fights i'd love them
I lost all mine when my comp crashed in the latter part of April

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I love watching old fights
Old Fights = Prime Tyson and before
Even some new fights are ok to watch too

I don't expect you to upload your entire fight collection just ones that you like

Well, that Lyle/Shavers fight is right up there with the Foreman/Lyle war as one of the best heavyweight fights of the 70's if you ask me, so I've already started the upload of it for you...

And yeah, I have a couple of Marciano fights on here, I think. I know I have the first fight with Walcott (complete in three parts, I believe) and I'm sure I have one or two more of his on here.

RockyMarcianofan00
06-06-2006, 06:49 AM
Well, that Lyle/Shavers fight is right up there with the Foreman/Lyle war as one of the best heavyweight fights of the 70's if you ask me, so I've already started the upload of it for you...

And yeah, I have a couple of Marciano fights on here, I think. I know I have the first fight with Walcott (complete in three parts, I believe) and I'm sure I have one or two more of his on here.
Alrite Awesome
Any fights you can upload I'll download and its all very appreciated.

Dempsey 1919
06-06-2006, 08:35 PM
Hello, and welcome to Playoff boxing! butterfly1964 here. We have a great matchup here, so here it is!

Western Conference

2. Jack Dempsey vs. 3. Jack Johnson - Stockyards Stadium in Denver, CO for fight #6. (dempsey leads 3-2)


* Sonny Liston defeated Rocky Marciano 4-0.

Can Dempsey move on to Fight Ali, or will Johnson force a game seven? Find out now, at The Stockyards Stadium in Denver! :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-06-2006, 08:50 PM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/johnsonchi1b.jpg

Hi, an welcome to this second round western conference playoffs, where Jack Dempsey will try to eliminate Jack Johnson tonight. Dempsey has a 3-2 game lead. dempsey was 196, and johnson was an excellent 203. one of our reporters interviewed johnson.

reporter: Well Jack how will you stave off elimination?

johnson: Well, I'll have to keep him away. That is the most important thing.

reporter: Do you think that you can pull this important win off?

johnson: I know I will. I'm conditioned well, and I feel great about this.

reporter: thank you, jack.

Well, looks like johnson's ready. Here is the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 196
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Jack Johnson

age: 32
height: 6'-1"
weight: 203
reach: 74"
record: 67-6-10 (49ko)

And now Jack Johnson can be seen by the crowd and he does not exactly get a heartfelt ovation. boos can be clearly heard. Johnson is wearing a black-hooded robe. johnson gets into the ring and warms up by practicing his evading footwork.

Jack Dempsey is now in the ring and the crowd erupts in applause. dempsey is wearing a black robe. here is our ring announcer for tonight, Michael Buffer!

michael buffer: Ladieeees aaaaand geeentlemen! presenting second round fights in the western Conference! introducing, from Galveston, TX wearing gray trunks with black trim, he stands six feet one inch, weighing two hundred three pounds, the Galveston Giaaant, Jaaack Joooohnsooon!(boos fill the arena) and his opponent, from manassah, CO, wearing solid black trunks also six one and weighs one ninety six pounds, the manassah mauler Jaaaaaaaaaaaaack Deeeeeempseeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!(the crowd cannot control itself as they scream louder and louder) Llllllllllllllllllets get ready to ruumblllllllllllllllllllllllllllee!!!

conn: You boys both know the rules of the Colorado State Athletic Boxing Commision. protect yourself at all times, and break clean. shakes hands, and come out fighting!

Round 1: Dempsey is bobbing and weaving and johnson is flatfooted. again, this seems to be a methodical battle for dempsey, and a tactical battle with johnson, as johnson lets dempsey carry the fight. dempsey is lunging with hard jolting shots, and johnson pulls back from them. johnson occasionally goes in with a right hand. dempsey is lunging and throwing shots, but johnson is able to either parry them, or tie dempsey up.

Round 2: Now dempsey realizes that johnson is on to his plan, so he is more cautious. dempsey moves in and out and johnson jabs a little. johnson looks pretty fast on his feet at the moment, as dempsey cannot seem to find the target. johnson is countering well with hard lefts and rights. johnson is boxing well, and tying dempsey up when necessary. johnson does well in this round.

Round 3: Dempsey is still in his croutch, looking for that one big punch to take johnson out of there. at this point, johnson is too fast for dempsey. johnson has learned well from his last series with max schmeling, for max also alot of the time fights from the panther-like croutch that dempsey impliments. Johnson is now landing solid rights to dempsey's face, but he takes them, and dempsey has his jaw tucked in to minimize the damage. johnson is scoring well, and dempsey keeps coming in, but everytime he does that, johnson is right there to hold him off with his superior strength.

Round 4: Johnson is in his stance, periodically lunging in with some hard shots that jarrs dempsey. dempsey still keeps coming in, and johnson throws a lightning fast fluury that sends dempsey to the canvas! dempsey is up at 5, but he takes the standing eight count. dempsey fights back though, landing his trademark left hook and johnson is a little shaken up, but when dempsey follows up, he still has enough strength to neutralize him in a clinch. johnson recovers, and so does dempsey from that knockdown. they fight on, and from then on, it's pretty even, but johnson's knockdown was enough for the judges to smile in his favor.

Round 5: Johnson is now carrying the attack, for dempsey is a bit tired from lunging at him all night, but dempsey holds strong. johnson is doing well, and holds his hands up in perfect position to protect his chin. dempsey just can't seem to penetrate his defense. dempsey however is not frustrated, but he presses on. johnson hurts dempsey again with a right, and now dempsey is hurt. johnson is now teeing off on jack's face, and gets him on the chin once, but jack survives the barrage and they continue until the round ends.

Round 6: Dempsey now goes out like a madman. he throws thunderous shots, only to be twisted up by johnson's powerful arms in the clinches. johnson is patient and methodical. he now has dempsey's face well swollen and on the verge of cuts. johnson is now hitting dempsey with good shots, but dempsey fights back landing two right hands and a left hook, but johnson takes them well, and he comes baqck with some shots of his own before the bell ending the round sounds off.

Round 7: Dempsey is still moving in, but with not as much of the tenacity that he exhibited in the earlier rounds. johnson realizes that dempsey is weary, and he capitalizes off of this. a jolting right uppercut and a left hook stuns dempsey. dempsey holds on, but johnson is again right on him with solid punches and dempsey goes down! dempsey is up at five, and johnson gets right on him with solid head punches and jolting shots to the midsection. dempsey is staggering right now, and johnson tries to finish, but the bell saves dempsey.

Round 8: Johnson seems to be in complete command. He wants Muhammad Ali badly, and will do the best he can to get to him. Dempsey gets a bit frustrated and he is now tired from all that lunging. Dempsey was a bit out of condition, while Johnson got in the best shape he has been probably in this whole tournament. Dempsey's shots lack that firepower it had in the earlier rounds. The Manassah Mauler is looking for that one big bomb to take Johnson out of the fight, but Johnson is just not there. Johnson ties dempsey up in the clinches, and is so strong that he is able to hold Dempsey's arms behind his back like he did with James Jeffries back in 1910. Johnson looks like he's having a field day and Dempsey looks like he just can't be bothered as the blood pours from his eye.

Round 9: Dempsey is bobbing and weaving, and johnson uses his jab a little. dempsey gets under his jab and lands his left hook, but johnson presses on. dempsey throws another left hook and johnson parries it, and gets in a left lead and an overhand right, followed by a left uppercut and a right cross, and dempsey is down again! he is up at eight, and johnson follows up with smashing combos and dempsey hits the mat four the fourth time. dempsey cannot beeat the count. The fight is over! Jack Johnson has forced this series to a decisive seventh game!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 1:33 seconds of the ninth round, Jaaack Joohnsooon!

The crowd is stunned. johnson smiles to the crowd and walks out happy.

Dempsey: I should have taken him more seriously.

Well, that does it for tonight. Again the final score is johnson-ko9! This is butterfly1964 saying, goodnight!! :boxing:

The Raging Bull
06-07-2006, 01:22 PM
C'mon lads lets keep this thread at the top of the page for yogi's downloads :)

And of course Butterflys NBA boxing :D

Dempsey 1919
06-07-2006, 09:05 PM
Hello, and welcome to Playoff boxing! butterfly1964 here. We have a great matchup here, so here it is!

Western Conference

2. Jack Dempsey vs. 3. Jack Johnson - Stockyards Stadium in Denver, CO for fight #7. (series tied at 3-3)


* Sonny Liston defeated Rocky Marciano 4-0.

Who will move on to fight Muhammad Ali?

Dempsey 1919
06-08-2006, 03:19 AM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/johnsonchi1b.jpg

Hi, an welcome to this second round western conference playoffs, where Jack Dempsey will fight Jack Johnson for the seventh time. This is the first game seven in the entire tournament! Dempsey got himself into great shape at 186, and johnson was a stupendous 205.Both fighters want to win. Here's the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 186
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Jack Johnson

age: 32
height: 6'-1"
weight: 205
reach: 74"
record: 67-6-10 (49ko)

And now Jack Johnson can be seen by the crowd and he does not exactly get a heartfelt ovation. boos can be clearly heard. Johnson is wearing a white robe. johnson gets into the ring and warms up by practicing his evading footwork.

Jack Dempsey is now in the ring and the crowd erupts in applause. dempsey is wearing a white robe. here is our ring announcer for tonight, Michael Buffer!

michael buffer: Ladieeees aaaaand geeentlemen! presenting second round fights in the western Conference! introducing, from Galveston, TX wearing solid white trunks, he stands six feet one inch, weighing two hundred five pounds, the Galveston Giaaant, Jaaack Joooohnsooon!(boos fill the arena) and his opponent, from manassah, CO, wearing white trunks with black trim, he is also six one and weighs one eighty-six pounds, the manassah mauler Jaaaaaaaaaaaaack Deeeeeempseeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!(the crowd cannot control itself as they scream louder and louder) Llllllllllllllllllets get ready to ruumblllllllllllllllllllllllllllee!!!

conn: You boys both know the rules of the Colorado State Athletic Boxing Commision. protect yourself at all times, and break clean. shakes hands, and come out fighting!

Round 1: Dempsey is bobbing and weaving and johnson is on the move. dempsey is not lunging with those hard shots, but he is content to attempt to box him like he did with Tommy Gibbons back in 1923. He applies a good amount of pressure, but he is not careless. johnson uses his jab well, and he is cat quick as he tie dempsey up in the clinches. dempsey is still patient and he scores with some good right hands.

Round 2: Dempsey is still in his croutch, looking for that one big punch to take johnson out of there. at this point, johnson is too fast for dempsey. johnson has learned well from his last series with max schmeling, for max also alot of the time fights from the panther-like croutch that dempsey impliments. Johnson is now landing solid rights to dempsey's face, but he takes them, and dempsey has his jaw tucked in to minimize the damage. johnson is scoring well, and dempsey keeps coming in, but everytime he does that, johnson is right there to hold him off with his superior strength.

Round 3: Johnson looks confident as he lunges in with shots of his own, but he is able to get out of range of dempsey's left hook. Johnson uses the right hand well, and counter's dempsey's left hooks with straight and overhand rights. Johnson is doing wery well indeed as Dempsey's bob and weave is not paying off as of yet, becuse Johnson is landing, and landing heavily. Dempsey walks through his shots and gets in some lef thooks and right hands to stun johnson, but when dempsey tries to follow up, johnson has enough strength to hold dempsey. Dempsey becomes the persuer as the round ends.

Round 4: Johnson is now carrying the attack, and Dempsey obliges as now for about a minute, both men get into a slugfest. Dempsey is just too powerful and johnson goes down! the crowd is on their feet, thinking that dempsey would win, but johnson is up quickly and they resume. This is plain survival for johnson for the rest of the round, as he does a lot of parrying, covering up, and tying up.

Round 5: Dempsey now goes out like a madman. he throws thunderous shots, only to be twisted up by johnson's powerful arms in the clinches. johnson has recovered from the last round and he wants to take control. johnson is now hitting dempsey with good shots, but dempsey fights back landing two right hands and a left hook, but johnson takes them well, and he comes back with some shots of his own before the bell ending the round sounds off.

Round 6: Dempsey is still moving in, but with not as much of the tenacity that he exhibited in the earlier rounds. johnson realizes that dempsey is weary, and he capitalizes off of this. a jolting right uppercut and a left hook stuns dempsey. dempsey holds on, but johnson is again right on him with solid punches and dempsey just tries to hold on. Johnson gets right on him with solid head punches and jolting shots to the midsection. dempsey is staggering right now, and johnson tries to finish, but the bell saves dempsey.

Round 7: Johnson seems to be in complete command. Dempsey is now tired from all that lunging, so he decides to play it cool and to gas up so to speak for the next round. Dempsey throws minimal shots and he just concentrates on bobbing and weaving. Johnson ties dempsey up in the clinches, and dempsey at times gets free to pound the body. Johnson is still winning this round, but it is still a close round.

Round 8: Dempsey is still patient and Johnson looks like he wants to end it as he luges frequently with those left and right hands, while in position to avoid any counterpunches. Dempsey has a bit more energy now and he is starting to come on now as dempsey gets inside Johnson's defense and pounds the body. dempsey starts to take over and the crowd is on their feet. Dempsey starts to dominate and Johnson becomes a bit weak from the punishment he is taking to the body.

Round 9: Johnson tries to fight back, but he walks right into a dempsey left hook and johnson is stunned! Dempsey smells blood and tries to finish, but johnson uses his great defense to survive and now he looks a little better, fighting a tactical battle of jabbing parrying and rolling with punches. Dempsey impliments his roll well, and johnson has decreased accuracy of punches because of this. this is a good round for bothe fighters.

Round 10: Johnson is still patient as dempsey tries to score with that left hook, but johnson knows better than to be caught with that. Dempsey is moving well as he avoidsjohnson's shots and scores with shots of his own, but Johnson has his moments as he pounds the body of Jack Dempsey and scores with big right hands. it's still a close round.

Round 11: Johnson is trying to take over once again, but dempsey is just not there as he moves in and out very well and lands his left hook. Dempsey weakens johnson as he pounds the body. Johnson puts up a good fight, landing hard crisp right hands, but dempsey is now the stronger of the two. Dempsey is stroming this round pounding the body and the head, and johnson is defenseless, but the bell saves him.

Round 12: both men comes out. dempsey is in hiscroutch, pressing the fight, and johnson is moving and bouncing around a little. dempsey lunges, but johnson is there to tie him up. dempsey is strong, but johnson has that little extra strength to tie dempsey up in the clinches, but he can only do it for a little while, cause dempsey knows how to free himself and pound the body, which he does. johnson manages to get away and they cotinue. johnson jabs and waits for dempsey's lunges. dempsey corners johnson occasionally and work the head and body, and johnson counter punches when he can. the round is about even.

Round 13: Johnson is countering dempsey's blows and trying to stay away. dempsey lands some good shots, but johnson survives them. johnson for the first half of the round is trying to stay away from dempsey and dempsey for the first half is going after johnson. in the second half, johnson threw more punches and was more aggressinve. this is a good round for johnson as he puts some good punches together and does good in the clinches.

Round 14: Dempsey is bobbing and weaving, and johnson uses his jab a little. dempsey gets under his jab and lands his left hook, but johnson presses on. dempsey throws another left hook and johnson parries it, and gets in a left lead. Dempsey still goes after him and puts on tremendous pressure and gives johnson no room to breathe. Dempsey stuns Johnson with hard, fast blows and johnson is near the end, but somehow, johnson survives.

Round 15: Johnson and Dempsey both try to make a good impression on the judges. Johnson boxes well, and dempsey applies pressure. Dempsey is real tired, but johnson looks great as he used to fighting forty rounds or more! Both men look ery impressive as theyare able to execute their game plans to the way they would like. They both slug it out for the last 20 seconds of the round, and the bell rings ending the round as both men are tired, especially dempsey.

Johnson was down in the fourth round, nd both mens eyes are puffed up. here is Michael Buffer with the decision.

Michael Buffer: Judge Artie Aidala scores it 8-6-1 for johnson! Judge Tony Castellano scores it 9-4-2 for dempsey!(applause is heard) (Here is Mark Conn's decisive vote)Referee Mark Conn scores it 6-6-3, it is a draw!!!!

Dempsey 1919
06-08-2006, 03:20 AM
We go into overtime! This round will decide who goes on to meet Muhammad Ali!

Round 16: Both men come out fast, dempsey looking for a knockout, and johnson looking to out point dempsey. Johnson lands his punches well, and dempsey does some body work. Johnson is jabbing alot and on his toes staying away. dempsey bulls his way through with his bob and weave attack. Dempsey gets in a big left hook, but johnson takes it well. Johnson lands some right hands as the bell rings!

Michael Buffer: The two judges and referee Conn score the round even!

So we go into double overtime!

Round 17: Johnson comes out patient and scores with good shots. Dempsey is looking for a knockout. Dempsey suddenly unges with a left hook, and johnson makes him miss and counters with a lunging hard right that hurts mad jack. Johnson follows up with fast, hard combeos and dempsey is down! The crowd is on their feet, but dempsey is up at four. and they continue. Dempsey somehow comes back and catches johnson on the ropes and pummeles him. Johnson is defenseless, but the bell saves him!

Michael Buffer: Judge Artie Aidala scores the round for dempsey, and Mark Conn scores the round for johnson, but Tony Castellano scores it even!

We go to an eighteenth round.

Round 18: Dempsey is more patient and looks for a spot to land his shots. Johnson is trying to put on the pressure now, because he doesn't want dempsey to gain momuntum and possibly win this round. They clinch frequently and dempsey does body work and johnson continues to head hunt and rip fast combo to rack up points.

Michael Buffer: Once again, the two judges and referee Conn score the round even!

Once again, we go into extra innings! This is turning out to be a great fight! We go on to a quadruple overtime!

Round 19: Both men fight in close quarters. johnson spends a lot of time on the ropes, parrying dempsey's thunderous blows. Dempsey is once aging doing a great deal of body work and occasional uppercuts to wear down johnson and decrease his stamina. Both men do very well and they greatly impress the judges with scoring their punches.

Michael Buffer: Again, the two judges and referee Conn score the round even!

We now go to a twentieth round. :rolleyes:

Round 20: Johnson is now on his toes and looking to stay away, and dempsey is pursuing him. Johnson lands good shots that keep dempsey off-balance, but dempsey still moves in, bobbing and weaving. Dempsey get johnson on the ropes and pummels him. Johnson goes down! The crowd is on their feet. Johnson is up at the count of eight, and dempsey continues his onslaught. Dempsey is landing terrific blows and johnson is defenseless. Referee Mark Conn is watching carefully. dempsey is just too much for Johnson, but johnson manages to block some shots and counters with a right hand that throws dempsey off-balance a little. Suddenly, Johnson recovers and starts throwing dynamite bombs at dempsey's face. the crowd's jaws drop as they watch johnhson come back from that beating just seconds ago and puts the manassah mauler in serious trouble. A one-two now puts dempsey on the canvas! Dempsey is up at six, and he take sthe mandatory eight count. this is a great round! They now get ino a slugfest as the bell sounds! Both men are tired. Here is Michael buffer with the decision.

Michael Buffer: Judge Artie Aidala scores the round for Johnson, and Mark Conn scores the round for Dempsey, but Tony Castellano scores it again even!

So now we go to sextuple overtime! Will we see some of the same from the last round? Let's find out.

Round 21: Both men are taking precaution. They clinch and Johnson uses his superior strength and stamina. Dempsey is dead tired, but Johnson is fresh. Dempsey is pursuing Johnson, but he can't find the target. johnson is outpointing dempsey. Somehow, somewhere, Dempsey lands a hellacious blow that drops johnson. 120,000 fans are screaming on their feet, cheering dempsey. Johnson is up at three and dempsey moves in to finish. An overhand right and a wide-looping left hook puts johnson down for the last time in this tournament. Dempsey is relieved, while Johnson cannot believe what has hjappened to him. All that he has worked for has now gone down the drain, and it will be Dempsey, not Johnson who fights Muhammad Ali!

Michael Buffer: The winner, by a knockout at 1:59 of the twenty-first round, and the winner of this second round, Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaack Deeeeeempseeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy!!!!!!!

The crowd is jumping about and screaming as Dempsey now moves on, and the last piece of the puzzle is in. We all now know who is in the Western and Eastern Conference Finals! The whole stadium is shaking as the celebration continues.

Dempsey: He is the toughest fighter I have ever feced in my whole career. he is a great fighter.

Johnson: Man he is so good, I think he will beat Ali!

This was by far the best fight in this entire tournament. This is what the public want. Good gritsy action non-stop. I'm out of breath just calling this fight, imagine how tired the gladiators are from fighting twenty-one hard rounds. Well, that does it for tonight. Again the final score is dempsey-ko21! Let's send our cameras back into the newsroom. :cool:

Dempsey 1919
06-08-2006, 03:28 AM
We have finally come to the end of the second round. Here were our initial competitors.

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali - Houston, TX
2. Jack Dempsey - Manassah, CO
3. Jack Johnson - Galveston, TX
4. George Foreman - Houston, TX

EAST

1. Joe Louis - Detroit, MI
2. Rocky Marciano - Brockton, MA
5. Mike Tyson - Catskill, NY
6. Sonny Liston - Philadelphia, PA

* = winner

West matchups:

*1. Muhammad Ali vs. 4. George Foreman 4-2

*2. Jack Dempsey vs. 3. Jack Johnson 4-3

East matchups:

*1. Joe Louis vs. 5. Mike Tyson 4-2

2. Rocky Marciano vs. *6. Sonny Liston 4-0

So now we are left with:

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali - Houston, TX
2. Jack Dempsey - Manassah, CO

EAST

1. Joe Louis - Detroit, MI
6. Sonny Liston - Philadelphia, PA

So here are our second round matchups!

West matchups:

1. Muhammad Ali vs. 2. Jack Dempsey - Houston Astrodome, Houston, TX for fights 1, 2, 6, and 7. Stockyards Stadium, Denver, CO for fights 3, 4, and 5.

East matchups:

1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fights 1, 2, 6, and 7. Convention Hall, Philadelphia, PA
for fights 3, 4, and 5.

Enjoy!! :D :D

leff
06-08-2006, 05:37 AM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://www.kontaktrunde.de/boxing/baer.jpg

this is butterfly1964 and welcome to the Stockyards Stadium in Denver, CO for part two of our quadruple triple-header, fight #1 between Jack Dempsey and Max Baer. both of these gladiators are known for their murderous punch. so it should be a good fight. both of these fighters were known in their day to be real ladies men, so to build up the female fanbase for this fight, a poll was done as publicity a week before this fight, asking a total of 1,000 women who was the better looking man. 69% chose dempsey, while 28% chose baer, and 3% was undecided.

at the weigh-in, dempsey tipped the scales at 192, while baer came in at a lean 210. let's go to the press comference, where there are many girls there staring google-eyed at both fighters.

dempsey: "I trained hard for this fight, and i'll try my best to not let my fans down."

baer: "I'm honored that i have a chance to fight dempsey. he referee'd one of my fights, and now i get a chance to fight him. I'll try my best!"

this press conference lacked the sting that the ali-jeffries build-up had, but i'm sure the fight will be a doozy! here is the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 192
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Max Baer

age: 25
height: 6'-2 1/2"
weight: 210
reach: 80"
record: 40-7-0 (30ko)

over 100,000 fans pack the stockyards, for these are the typical numbers that are put up when dempsey comes to fight. spectacles such as dempsey-willard, carpantier, and tunney I and II can serve as examples of six-figure attendances to catch a glimpse of the manassah mauler. dempsey has the home advantage in this one, so this will be an all dempsey crowd. dempsey is a 3 to 1 favorite to beat baer. baer comes into the ring wearing a long black robe, and a few cheers can be heard. then dempsey comes in and the crowd goes wild. Teddy Hayes is dempsey's trainer, and Mike Cantwell is baer's trainer. Let's listen to michael buffer.

buffer: "Ladies and gentleman, llllllllllets get ready to rumbllllllllllleeee!! fighting in the blue corner, from Livermore, CA, wearing gray trunks, he stands 6'2 and one-half inch, weighing twoooo-ten, the Livermore Larupper, Maaaax Baaaeeerr!! (a few cheers) and in the red corner, from Manassah, CO, he wears solid black trunks, he stands 6'1, he weighs one ninety-two, the manassah mauler, Jaaaaack Deeempseeey!(loud cheers)

Mark Conn gives instructions, and we are ready.

Round 1: dempsey comes out bobbing and weaving and throws his left hook. it connects, but max takes it well. baer jabs to try to keep dempsey away. dempsey still is pressing the fight, baer catches dempsey with a vicious right hand, that staggers jack. baer follows it with right crosses, followed by some illegal backhands ala schmeling, lol! conn warns baer. dempsey tries to tkae command but he gets caught with a right cross, jack's achilles heel, and down goes dempsey! jack gets up in two seconds and he is getting caught with some vicious shots by the larupper. 15 sec remains and dempsey is floored again! the bell sounds as dempsey gets up at the count of 7: demspey is staggered as he walks to his corner and baer seems ok. cantwell, tells baer to use his jab more to keep him at bay. dempsey is told by hayes to keep pressing and ducking his shots and to use the left hook more.

Round 2: both men come out and dempsey walks right into a jolting uppercut, and several right hands and down he goes again! there is no three knockdown rule here, so that's one thing dempsey doesn't have to worry about. however as he comes in, baer's haymakers are finding it's mark. demspey is floored seven times before the round ends. the crowd is in stunned silence as they watch their hero being pummeled: dempsey's eyes are puffed up, and he needs smelling salts to revive him. baer is cool, calm, and collective.

Round 3: both men come out and baer somehow can find jack's head despite the bobbing and weaving. demspey is floored twice in the first minute! dempsey then throws a prayer of a left hook, and just taps baer's jaw, but he leaves himself open for baer crushing over hand right, and down he goes again. demspey tries to get up, but doesn't make the count. Baer shocks Colorado and pulls off a great upset! you can hear a pin drop, as jaws drop. no one can believe it. dempsey is embarrased.

buffer: "the winner at 1:35 of the third round via tko, Max Baer." (the crown is completely silent, almost in tears)

baer: "i'm glad that i won. i hope that i can kepp this up and win the first round, and eventually the entire tournament."

dempsey: "he hits hard. once he hit me with that uppercut, i knew it was over. But i'll try to bounce back and win the next time we fight."

WOW, what a finish! first ali comes and delights the houston crowd and convincingly wins his first game, then this. can demspey bounce back, or winn baer take it all the way, find out on monday for fight #2. this is butterfly1964 signing off from denver, CO. first we brought you the west, and now for the east! stay tuned as we travel to the east coast and are cameras are switched over to Detroit, MI. don't go away!


why is bear 6f 2.5inch here and 6f, 4inch in the baer-klitcshko thread?

Southpaw Stinger
06-08-2006, 06:02 AM
Yeey Dempsey won!

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 03:23 AM
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to The Western Conference Finals of Heavyweight Boxing. I'm butterfly1964, your ringside commentator. We have an interesting style matchup for you on hand.

1. Muhammad Ali vs. 2. Jack Dempsey - Houston Astrodome, Houston, TX for fight #1.

Can Ali jab Dempsey to death, or will Dempsey overwhelm Ali with his left hook? Let's send our camera crew out to Houston, Texas.

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 04:51 AM
http://www.megacalendars.com/images/posters/Muhammad%20Ali%20Poster%20AA882.jpg vs. http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG

We are here at The Houston Astrodome, where it is proclaimed as "The Eighth Wonder of the World". It is a sell-out crowd, over 125,000 fans on on hand for tonight. The celebrities at the fore-fold are, Will Smith, Tom Hanks, Nicole Kidman, Angelina Jolie, Beyonce, 50-CENT, and many others. Whenever Muhammad Ali is fighting, all huge names show their support. But I won't be suprised if some people came for Jack Dempsey as well. He was very popular in his heyday. Both men came in at tip-top condition. Ali weighed in at 203, the best shape he is in for the entire tournament, while Dempsey tipped the scales at 184, very light for his size as well. At the press conference, we all saw the boldness and wit we have all come to expect from Muhammad Ali.

Ali: Dempsey'll come out bobbin' and weavin',
I'll tire him out so much that he start doin some heavy breathin',
And once I know that my jabs have had their fill,
I'll stop playing and go in for the kill!
I am thee greatest!

(The crowd is very amused)

Dempsey: Well, I trained hard, and I'm ready. And I hope that the best man wins.

Well that was amusing. Ali gave us a little poem, hehe. I had a chance to interview Muhammad myself.

butterfly: Honestly, how do you think this fight will go?

Ali: This is a mismatch. Jack Dempsey will be no match. He's too short. He's too slow. He don't have the reach. He can't take a punch. He don't hit hard. And, he don't have the footwork.

butterfly: You sound very sure of yourself.

Ali: Yeah, well I don't see this cat having any kind of a chance with me. I've seen what happened when he fought Gene Tunney. He kept lunging and lunging and he just couldn't hit the guy. Well, I'm about ten times better than Tunney, so this guy will just be a walk through until I meet up with Slow Louis, or that big, ugly bear, Sonny Liston!

butterfly: So are you saying that you will sweep Dempsey?

Ali: I should be able to!

Well, there you have it folks! I also interviewed Dempsey before this fight.

butterfly: What will this fight in your opinion materialize as?

Dempsey: I'll win, I know I will. Ali's just blowing a lot of hot air! He has no chance with me.

butterfly: Do you really think so?

Dempsey: Yeah, I mean did you see what happened with Henry Cooper? Or Joe Frazier? These guys used left hooks on him and it worked to an extent. I should be able to do the same and come out with an easy win.

Both men are really condident. Ali however is the 3 to 1 betting favorite. Here is the tale of the tape.

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 203
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)


Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 184
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

And now Jack Dempsey makes his way through the crowd. He is wearing a black robe. He gets a tremendous ovation from the crowd; he's very popular here. Dempsey is accompanied by trainer Teddy Hayes.

And Muhammad Ali is seen and the crowd goes ballistic! Muhammad is with trainer Angelo Dundee. Ali is wearing a white robe with his name on the back in red lettering. Now here is our official ring announer, Michael Buffer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Western Conference Fiiiiinaaaaaals! Introducing, from Manassah, CO, he's wearing solid white trunks, he stands six foot one, he weighs one ninety four, the manassah mauler Jaaaack Deempseeeey!(the crowd cheers loudly for Jack) And his opponent, (loud cheeres and screams) from right here in Houston, TX, wearing white trunks with red trim, standing six three and weighing in at two hundred and threee pounds, the greateeeest, Muuuhaaamaaaaaaaad Aaaaaaliiiiiiii!(the crowd cannot control itself as Ali takes a bow) Llllllllllleeeets get reaaady too ruuuumbllllllllllllleee!!!!!

Mark Conn: You boys know the rules of the Texas State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times. I want a good clean fight, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands.

Ali says a prayer in his corner.

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 04:51 AM
Round 1: Ali moves out and is on his toes. he circles to the left constantly and pos that jab. Dempsey comes out bobbing and weaving and croutched low. Ali keeps circling the ring at great speed, and his left hand is ready. He also uses his right well, because he knows that dempsey is a sucker for a right cross. Dempsey has his left hand ****ed for that devastating left hook. dempsey throws about eleven left hooks in the round, but they all miss. So jack has to settle for a few right hand that do not land flush because ali is moving at blinding speed. He watches for that left hook. Ali is using his feet well in this round and never stays still for a moment. when he gets the opportunity, he right crosses dempsey to death: Ali is breathing a bit hard, but he seems fresh. So does dempsey as they are given instruction from their trainers.

Round 2: Ali still is on his toes and moving, using that left jab to keep dempsey off balance. Ali has his hands low, but here's something that you all might want to know; he's at long range with the hands low! Ali is still moving and jabbing amd getting in those righ crosses and landing them effecively. Dempsey seems to have trouble landing his punches, cause the endlessly moving Ali cannot stand still. Ali does his shuffle and lands a one-two, but dempsey is not bothered. dempsey is still pursuing ali, and he gets under his jab, but ali is right there to tie his up. ali does not let dempsey work his body. dempsey does land some body shots though, and he lands his first left hook in this round, but ali does not feel the effects: Dundee is instructing ali, and hayes is doing the same.

Round 3: In this round Ali is still on his toes somewhat, but he goes more flatfooted and he puts some more pop on his punches. His jab goes in well, so does his right cross, and even some left hooks of his own! All this time, dempsey is looking to get in big left hooks, but it's Ali who lands tremendous left hooks. Dempsey somehow through all that bobbing and weaving gets ali on the ropes and punishes the body and head, but after dempsey gets in about 5 seconds of constant punching, ali holds behind his head and ties him up. Ali sticks to his game plan of moving to the left and occasionally to th right, shuffling his feet from side to side landing his left that keeps dempsey off-balance, and his right, that jarrs dempsey. This is a good round for ali: Hayes is working dempsey over to get back some of his stamina.

Round 4: Here, ali shows that he dominates the action in every department. he out boxes dempsey, out punches jack, out moves the man. He is flatfooted and getting in those lefts. Ali is now the pursuer on a tired dempsey, his left foot bent and going forward, and his left hand ****ed for that jab. By the middle of the round, Ali shows signs of... of greatness! He reminds us of fighters from yesteryear. Folks like Jack Johnson, Billy Conn, Tommy Lourghan. he boxes very well. Ali throws his classic combination, a fast left and right hook to the body and a fast left and right hook to the head, and they all land! Dempsey fires back with a left hook, and ali answers back with a one-two. dmepsey lunges forward, and ali pulls from dempsey's punch and then simultaneously landing a right hand counter on the jaw, and dempsey is stunned! Ali follows up with ten fast punches: five sets of left and right hooks to the head and dempsey goes down! The crowd is on their feet, but dempsey is up at the count of two and the bell rings: Dempsey needs some reviving, and ali looks strong.

Round 5: Ali shows no signs of slowing down, but dempsey does. Dempsey lunges, and most of the time he misses. Ali has his hands low and stands there and gives you a big target to shoot at, but, he just isn't there! Ali is still flatfooted and landing great combinations. The expressions on the two gladiators faces are quite different. Dempsey's face shows rage and a sort of craziness, while Ali face exhibits rather definite, hard looks! This is a one-sided round as Ali controls the pace from beginning to end: Ali is still fresh, but dempseyis tired, but will not give up.

Round 6: Ali is on his toes again and pops that left jab. He is very confident. dempsey croutches low, slips the jab and scores with a good left hook and ali holds on to dempsey tying him up. ali looked a bit stunned, but he recovers very quickly. Ali still boxes from the periphery and looks pretty good, but dempsey is starting to come on and scores with good left hooks. Ali uses the right hand well, and he stuns dempsey near the end and moves in to finish, but the bell saves dempsey: Dempsey looks confident, and ali needs some rest.

Round 7: Dempsey's face is really puffed up, and ali keeps working on it. dempsey scores with a right hand and a left hook, and ali is not bothered, but he still carries the attack. Dempsey is bobbing and weaving and avoids half of the punches, and gets by li's jab and pounds the body. ali is hurt, but he still is able to tie up dempsey. Ali still moves well, still landing that right hand with force, speed, and pinpoint accuracy: Ali is a bit tired, and Angelo is telling him something, while Teddy is working on that eye, which is now cut.

Round 8: Ali comes out moving with that blinding spped he used in the first round and decides to headhunt. Ali jabs and moves and lands rights and left hooks, followed by uppercuts as he pulls away from reach. Ali continues this and dempsey seems stunned, ali smells blood and goes after him. he lands crisp clean combination and dempsey goes down for the secnd time in this fight! dempsey is up at three, and ali continues to press the fight on an injured dempsey. Ali keeps throwing his shots and landing them heavily, and dempsey just succumbs from the punishment and goes down again! Dempsey is up at seven, and he fights back for the last five seconds: Ali looks poised and ready, and dempsey is still game.

Round 9: Ali is still on his toes and tries to finish. Ali scores with a double right and a left lead and dempsey is staggering! The crowd is on their feet. Ali throws to left leads and a crushing right, ala Cleveland Williams, and dempsey goes down! Dempsey is up at eight, and Ali throws serious left and righ hooks and another double rights, flooring dempsey once again for the fifth time! Dempsey gets up, but it is too late as Mark Conn counts to ten. The fight is over!

buffer: The winner, by ko at 1:07 of the ninth round, Muhaaamaaaaaaad Aaaaaaliiiiiiii!(the crowd is happy as they cheer the hometown boy)

Ali: I told you I was gonna win, didn't I? None of these fighters are in my league!

Dempsey: He's a lot better than Jack Johnson! He's so fast I could have barely hit him. He's good and tricky. he also hits you kind of wierd. The punches don't seem hard, but they still mess up you brain or something! But I'm confident that I'll catch up with him.

Well, that will do it. Once again the final score, ali-ko9.
Peace! :boxing:

Yogi
06-09-2006, 04:55 AM
:rolleyes:

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 04:57 AM
Welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals. I'm butterfly1964, and this may be one of the greatest matchups of all-time.

1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fight #1.

Will Louis' technical brilliance be the difference in this fight, or will Liston overwhelm and be too much for Joe? Let's go over to Detroit, Michigan.

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 04:58 AM
:rolleyes:

Whatever. :rolleyes:

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 05:32 AM
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg vs. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg

Welcome to the Olympia stadium in Detroit, where Joe Louis will meet up with Sonny Liston. Over 60,000 came tonight to see Louis. He is the 3 to 1 favorite. Louis weighed an in-shape 207, and liston was 212. Louis and Liston are both good friends, so at the press conference, there was nothing but respect. Here's the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 207
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 212
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

And now Sonny Liston is in the ring accompanied by Willie Reddish. Some people boo, some people cheer. He is wearing a white robe. Joe Louis comes down the aisle and the crowd goes wild! Joe is with Jack Blackburn, and he is wearing a black robe with the words, "Joe Louis" on the back in bold, white lettering.

And now here is Michael Buffer!

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing white trunks with black strips, at six feet one, weighing two twelve, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liston! Liston! And his opponent, from Detroit, MI, wearing black trunks with white trim, at six feet two weighing two oooh seven, the Brown Bomber, Joooe Loouissss! Looouiiisss!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Liston's trunks had the words, "Sonny Liston" written in black script, and Louis' trunks had the initials, "JL" written on his trunks in white lettering.

Round 1: Both men move out. Liston is the pursuer. both men use their jabs, they have very good one's indeed. Louis jabs and rips those lightning fast combos to the head, while lston slips some of the punches and go to the body. Both men clinch and they do some body work, with Louis outslugging his opponent. Liston lands a good left hook, which louis takes. Louis is jabbing and landing right hands when he can and slipping liston's shots. It's a fairly even round, as they both test each other's chins: Both Blackburn and Reddish is giving their fighters instructions.

Round 2: Liston is still pressuring louis and louis jabs and gets out of a corner. they both clinch and louis rips big shots to the body and head and liston holds on and takes time to recover. they break, and louis goes after him throwing great leather and liston looks out of it, but he recovers and fights back. This is louis' round, but liston still puts up a good fight: Louis looks poised and ready, and liston is still recovering.

Round 3: Liston goes back to applying the pressure and cutting off the ring. liston slips a jab and out reaches louis and lands a left hook. Liston continues and lands solid combos that rock louis. Louis tries to hold on, but louis outmuscles louis and liston pounds the body and lands a one-two, folloed by a left hook and a right uppercut, then a left lead and louis is down! Louis is down! He is really hurt. He tries to get up, but he can't, not until after Mark Conn counts to ten.

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 2:01 of the third round, Sonnnyyy Liiiistoooon!

Liston: I'm glad I won. I hope to win again.

Louis: I have to avoid that left hook, but I'm still optimistic about this.

Well, there you have it. The crowd is stunned. That was a good fight. It's time to wrap it up for tonight. Once again, the final score, liston-ko3.

Goodnight. ;)

leff
06-09-2006, 05:53 AM
my tummy tells me that liston-ali will meet in the final

Southpaw Stinger
06-09-2006, 07:17 AM
my tummy tells me that liston-ali will meet in the final

We all knew that was the case when this thing begen. We just have to ride along and try and act suprised when it happens.

Brassangel
06-09-2006, 10:32 AM
I think he just wanted to write stories about Liston vs. Ali, and just filled in the other fighters for the sake of realism. Okay...so it hasn't been very realistic, but oh well.

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 02:28 PM
Good afternoon, folks. Welcome to The Western Conference Finals of Heavyweight Boxing. I'm butterfly1964, who will be doing the blow by blow. There's a lot of questions to be answered in this bout.

1. Muhammad Ali vs. 2. Jack Dempsey - Houston Astrodome, Houston, TX for fight #2. (ali leads 1-0)

Can Dempsey come back from that beating and even up the series? Let's go to the ring, and we'll see what we can see. :D

Dempsey 1919
06-09-2006, 03:02 PM
http://www.megacalendars.com/images/posters/Muhammad%20Ali%20Poster%20AA882.jpg vs. http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG

Wecome to The Houston Astrodome, where Muhammad Ali is fighting Jack Dempsey. Ali gave Jack a one-sided beating, but can Dempsey bounce back? Ali is a 7 to 1 favorite. Ali is 207, while dempsey is at 183, tweny four pounds lighter than Ali. Dempsey seems to be very determined, but will that be enough? Here's the tale of the tape.

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 207
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)


Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 183
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

And now Jack Dempsey makes his way through the crowd. He is wearing a blue robe. He gets into the ring and practices his bob and weave.

And Muhammad Ali is seen and the crowd shoes their appreciation. Ali is wearing a red robe with his name on the back in white lettering. Now here is our official ring announer, Michael Buffer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentlemen, introducing, from Manassah, CO, he's wearing solid black trunks, he stands six foot one, he weighs one ninety three, the manassah mauler Jaaaack Deempseeeey!(the crowd cheers loudly for Jack) And his opponent, (loud cheeres and screams) from Houston, TX, wearing red trunks with white trim, standing six three and weighing in at two hundred and seveen pounds, the greateeeest, Muuuhaaamaaaaaaaad Aaaaaaliiiiiiii! Llllllllllleeeets get reaaady too ruuuumbllllllllllllleee!!!!!

Mark Conn: You boys know the rules of the Texas State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times. I want a good clean fight, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands.

Round 1: Dempsey is croutched and trying to make Ali miss, while Ali is on his toes. Ali uses his jab and the straight right. ALi jabs and jabs, and Dempsey slips a jab and scores with a good left hook. They both clinch, and dempsey pounds he body, while Ali just covers up. Ali is still on his toes, and dempsey is moving in and out looking for a spot. This is a good round for dempsey.

Round 2: Dempsey is still croutched and Ali tries to stay away. Ali uses his jab well and he peppers dempsey's face with punches. dempsey gets in some good body shots, and is scoring with his left hook and hurting ali. Ali still presses on and continue to hit those jabs and right hands to keep dempsey off-balance, and to move with that great speed to befuddle jack. Ali ties dempsey up in the clinches and is doing better than he did in the last round.

Round 3: Ali is still on his toes and tries to stay away, but dempsey is right on him and is able to pound the body and get's in some jolting uppercuts. Ali is stunned a bit, but he holds on and recovers. Ali is using short hooks to try and hurt dempsey, but jack just walks through them. Demosey continues to push the action and ali throws a right hand. Dempsey weaves around it, and lands a textbook left hook that drops ali! the crowd is on their feet. Ali is up at 5, and they continue as the bell rings!

Round 4: Ali is trying to command the pace of the fight, but dempsey just won't let him do that. Ali is on his toes, but he is a bit sluggish as he was lackadaisical in training. Dempsey is still very strong and dangerous. Ali tries to stay away, but he is bullied on the ropes and dempsey goes to work on him. after about 50-60 punches landed by dempsey, ali is worn out. Dempsey lands a big right hand and does ali goes again! ali is up at nine, and dempsey moves in to finish. A left hook and a right cross send hih staggering and bouncing off the ropes, and the referee stops the contest. Jack Dempsey wins!

Michael Buffer: The winner by tko, at 2:30 of the fourth round, Jaaaaaaaack Deeeeeempseeeeey!!(the crowd is stunned, but some of the folks are still satisfied)

Wow, dempsey evens it up. He wants to win this series badly. What will happen next? Find out next time on NBA Playoffs + Boxing + (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70271)!

This is butterfly1964 saying, good day! :p

Dempsey 1919
06-14-2006, 12:16 AM
Welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals. I'm butterfly1964, and here is our fight for tonight.

1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fight #2. (liston leads 1-0)

Will Louis bounce back after this loss? Let's go over to Detroit, Michigan. :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-14-2006, 01:11 AM
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg vs. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg

Welcome to the Olympia stadium in Detroit, where Joe Louis will fight Sonny Liston. Over 50,000 came tonight to see if Louis could tie up the series. He is the 3 to 1 underdog. Louis weighed an in-shape 205, and liston was 214. Liston seemed sort of lackadasical in training. Here's the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 205
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 214
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

And now Sonny Liston is in the ring, and some people boo, some people cheer. He is wearing a black robe. Joe Louis comes down the aisle and the crowd goes wild! Joe is with Jack Blackburn, and he is wearing a purple robe.

And now here is Michael Buffer!

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two fourteen, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liston! Liston! And his opponent, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid purple trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh five, the Brown Bomber, Joooe Loouissss! Looouiiisss!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Round 1: Liston is still the pursuer. Louis is not backing up quite as much as in the first fight, but he is still being forced back, somewhat. Louis shoots a hard right to liston jaw, and liston still presses on. Louis is jabbing and throwing combinations when he is in position. Louis is being pressured against the ropes, but he parries most of liston's blows and fires a hard combo of lefts and rights. Liston is stunned a little, but he is fighting back, with his piston jab, he sets up his power shots that keep louis away.

Round 2: Louis is still being pushed back, and liston is trying to rip his body. they both clinch and they do tremendous amounts of damage. Louis fires jolting uppercuts to liston's jaw and he folows up with blistering left hooks. liston fights back with his tremendous bombs and louis is hurt! Liston follows it up with left hooks and overhand rights. Liston keeps up this attack and louis looks done, but the bell saves louis!

Round 3: Louis is still shaken up, but he recovers. They both do work on the inside, and this is where they spend most of their time. Louis is the faster of the two, and he tries to beat him to the punch and outswing liston. liston is calm and ripping the body and following up with big left hooks. Louis is also giving it to sonny by using his perfectly thrown punches at the right positions to put a hurt on sonny. This is an even round, as they both do well.

Round 4: Louis is still determined, and he jabs liston and throws good solid combinations to sonny's body and head. Sonny is slipping some of those pnches to get through with blows of his own. louis still is pressing on, scoring punches and hurting liston. Liston fights back with a one-two that grazes louis' jaw. louis is now the pursuer as he is firing back big shots to liston. but liston is taking every punch, and he will not go down. Liston throws some punches, but louis parries or slips them and counters with shots of his own.

Round 5: Louis is still pursuing, and liston uses his reach to keep joe away from him. sonny is trying to counter joe's blows, but at this point louis is beating to the punch and is just too fast for liston. Louis scores a right to liston's jaw and liston goes down! liston is up at 4, and they continue. Louis is landing great blows and liston is defenseless. Liston tries to fire back, but louis slips the punch and counters with a right and continues his onslaught. Louis is landing telling blows, and it looks like sonny might go down again, but the bell saves him!

Round 6: The corwd is on their feet as they are cheering for a Louis win. Louis is still the stronger of the two. Louis is again landing some hard shots. It's all louis as he pounds liston body and unleashes his fury with tremendous handspeed and accuracy. an overhand right puts liston on the canvas for good.

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 0:43 of the sixth round, Jooooe Loouiissss!!

Everyone in the stands is really happy. Louis now evens up the series. Tune in next time for game 3. Once again, the final score is louis-ko6. This is butterfly1964 saying goodnight, from Olympia Stadium!

Dempsey 1919
06-15-2006, 09:59 PM
Hello there, and welcome to The Western Conference Finals! Today, we shall see who will break a deadlock tie.

2. Jack Dempsey vs. 1. Muhammad Ali - Stockyards Stadium, Denver, CO for fight #3. (series tied at 1-1)

Now let's send our crew over to Colorado.

Dempsey 1919
06-15-2006, 10:01 PM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://www.megacalendars.com/images/posters/Muhammad%20Ali%20Poster%20AA882.jpg

Welcome to The Stockyards Stadium, where Jack Dempsey the number two seed will try to beat the number one seed Muhammad Ali. Dempsey is the 3 to 2 favorite. Dempsey was in shape at 187, while Ali came in suprisingly light, suprisingly low, 199! Ali had not been this thin since 1961! He trained like a madman for this fight, determined to win. Over 70,000 people came today to watch this fight. Here's the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 187
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 199
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

Ali is now bouncing down the aisle into the ring. He is staying warm in there, shadowboxing and moving. Now Jack Dempsey is seen and many people cheer his arrival. Both men look determined.

Michael Buffer: Introducing, from Houston, TX, he's wearing white trunks with black strips, he stands six feet three inches, he weighs one hundred ninety-nine pounds, Muhaaamaaad Alliiii! And his opponent, from Manassah, Co, he''s wearing black trunks, he stands six feet one, weighing one hundred eighty-seven pounds, Jaaaaaack Deeempseeeey!!!!!!!!!(the crowd cheers) 15 rounds! Llllllets get ready to ruumbllllllllllle!!!!!!!

Mark Conn: You both know the rules of the Colorado State Athletic boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times. Beak when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands.

Round 1: Ali is on his toes, circling and popping that jab. Dempsey is crouched low, and rolling with punches. Ali is using the entire ring to stay away from Dempsey. Dempsey gets inside and pounds the body a little, but Ali is right there to tie him up. Ali keeps landing his quick combinations, and Dempsey is scoring with a left hook now and then. Ali boxes well, keeping Dempsey off-balance and tying him up: Both Hayes and dundee are giving instructions to their fighters.

Round 2: Dempsey is patient looking for an opening to land his crushing blows. Ali keeps away, landing shots and scoring points. Ali keeps this up and doesn't try to take dempsey out, but he just keeps on that bicycle and makessure that he cleanly wins the round. Dempsey lands a few punches, but ali is not close enough for dempsey to open up on him: Hayes is applying ice to dempsey's eye, which is a little puffed up.

Round 3: Dempsey is still patient, and not going after him, but he is just bobbing in and out, looking for the right spot to throw a punch. Ali is still on his toes and using his jab effectively. ali ties dempsey up in the clinches and then throws left and right hooks to the body, then pulls back from any counter punches from dempsey. Ali looks impressive once again as he uses the ring and keeps away from the always pursuing dempsey: Teddy Hayes is applying more ice to dempsey's shkin, and dundee is wiping down ali.

Round 4: Ali is still on his toes, and his stamina looks better than ever. That extra training he did will enable him to dance all night long if he needs to. Dempsey somehow gets inside and lands some good body and head shots. demspey bobs under ali's jabs and gets inside once again. Ali ties him up and they continue. dempsey scores with his left hook and is looking better. ali is still on his toes, sticking out that jab. they both clinch, and dempsey bullies ali against the ropes and jack lands left hooks and rights to the head. ali is stunned a bit, but he presses on. This is a good round for dempsey as he lands more crisp punches: Dundeee is working over a winded ali.

Round 5: Ali recovers from that exchange in the last round, and is still dancing around the ring. Ali's punches lack the power that it did in his previous fights, probably because he weighs 199, while his usual fighting weight is more around 210, and the lack of pounds equals lack of power. however his punches still sting and dempsey is feeling the sting, as his face is marked up a bit. Dempsey gets inside a few times and this impresses the judges, somewhat: Dundee is working ali over, and Hayes is working on jack's eyes.

Round 6: Dempsey is pursuing Ali and gets inside again. they get into a slugfest and ali is tunned! dempsey follows up with hellacious punches that keeps ali against the ropes. ali somehow stays up and fights back, but dempsey walks through those punches. ali is a bit slower now and dempsey can get to him easier. it's all dempsey as he lands a lot of left hooks this time: Dundee is chewing ali out for trying to slug with dempsey and hayes is still applying ice to the puffed up eye.

Round 7: Both men are flatfooted. Dempsye is stuill the pursuer, and ali just uses his reach advantage to keep dempsey off of him. dempsey gets in pretty easily and ali is once again winded from body shots by dempsey. Ali ties up dempsey once, but that is not enough as dempsey still wins this round as ali's jabs are not enough to stop dempsey: Hayes is giving jack instructions, and muhammad is a bit winded from the punishment.

Round 8: Ali is now back on his toes and boxes well. He recovered from the punishment that dempsey was administering to him. Dempsey is landing his left hook well and ali is landing good combos to keep dempsey off balance. both men do good in this round, but ali lands more punches: Ali still looks fresh after that round, but dempsey is a bit tired.

Round 9: Ali keeps sticking that jab, and dempsey cannot seem to get through ali's long reach and just settles for long, looping, grazing left hooks that doesn't bother ali. ali game plan seems to be working once again, as ali uses the ring and commands the action as he always does: Dempsey's eyes are well swollen now and are on the verge of cuts.

Round 10: Ali is not changing anything. he still boxes from ring center and dempsey can barely land any punches, except for a left hook here and there. demspey is getting a little impatient and he tries to go after him and land a big bomb imediately, but ali makes him look stupid and dempsey throws punches to the wind. Ali si doing well, as he circles the ring with great speed and moving and punching from all angles: Ali still looks pretty good, stamina-wise, while dempsey is tired.

Round 11: Dempsey is looking for one big bomb to take muhammad out, but ali is at this point unhittable as dempsey slows down from fatique and ali keeps on his toes and keeps working on jack's eye, which is very close to being cut. Ali keeps doing this until the end of the round: Dempsey is tired and a bit frustrated. Ali is a bit winded as well, but not as much as dempsey.

Round 12: Dempsey looks mad and he comes out and throws wild shots, but ali simply works this to his advantage and counter punches from tricky angle s and he is able to stun dempsey! Ali follows up with good punches, but demspey clinches with ali, to buy time to recover. Ali still looks good although he is getting a bit sloppy and demspey is landing more shots: Dempsey face is very swollen, and ali looks poised and ready.

Round 13: Dempsey is still croutched, looking for a spot to land his devastating left hook on ali's jaw. ali lands good, solid combinations, and dempsey is dazzled. Dempsey does some body work, but ali ties demspey up most of the time. Ali boxes a smart fight, utilizing the philosophy of "hitting and not being hit": Hayes is tending to dempsey's now cut eye, and dundee is giving ali instructions.

Round 14: Dempsey is still looking for that one big shot, becaus ehe knows he is well behind on points and a knockout is his only hope for victory. Ali is landing his strsight right well, and dempsey is troubled by it. Ali is working on that eye, which is now trickling a bit of blood. ali keeps on his toes and his stamina is remarkable. Ali keeps this up until the end of the round: Hayes is trying desperately to keep that eye under control.

Round 15: Dempsey is still looking for the knockout blow. Ali is very cautious and throws minimal punches. Muhammad just concentrates on moving and avoiding getting knocked out. Dempsey cannot find his target and jack is really tired, not to mention his fire power has greatly dimished. Ali just circles his and land a jab and a straight right now and then. Ali does his little shuffle and one-two's dempsey and then he keeps on the move, jabbing and jabbing until the end of the round: Dundee is congradulating ali, and Hayes is now putting tape on the eye.

There have been no knockdowns, and Dempsey had a cut right eye, while Ali was unmarked. Here is Michael Buffer with the decision.

Michael Buffer: Judge Artie Aidala scores it 9-4-2 for Ali! Judge Tony Castellano scores it 11-3-1 for Ali!(Ali raises his hands in victory) Referee Mark Conn scores it 10-5 for Ali, winner by unanimous decision, Muhammad Aliii!

Well, Ali takes the 2-1 series lead and dempsey will have to work extra hard to beat this guy. That does it for today. The final score is ali-ud15. This is butterfly1964 saying, Peace!! :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-15-2006, 10:02 PM
Hello there, and welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals! Today, we shall see who will break a deadlock tie.

6. Sonny Liston vs. 1. Joe Louis - Convention Hall, Philadelphia, PA for fight #3. (series tied at 1-1)

Now let's send our crew over to Pennsylvania.

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 04:02 AM
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg vs. http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg

Welcome to Convention Hall, where Sonny Liston will try to take the series lead against Joe Louis. Although there is no clear favorite, the fans in this arena are backing for a liston win. Both men were in top condition. Here's the tale of the tape.

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 211½
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 204
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

And Joe Louis is coming down the aisle and into the ring and some cheers could be heard. Now the stadium erupts as Liston climbs into the ring.

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid black trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh four, the Brown Bomber, Joe Loouiss! Loouiss! And his opponent, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two eleven and a half, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liiistooooon! Liiiiistooooooon!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Round 1: Both men move out and use their jabs. They fight at a measured pace. Both men are cautious and fight a tactical battle. Liston is the stronger one in the clinches. Liston lands a left hook to the head and a right cross to the body. Louis forces a left jab to the chin, and left and right to the midsection and a right cross to the chin, and a one-two to the body. Both men land good solid punches in this round. Louis is stunned in the first half of the round, and Liston is stunned in the second half of the round: Reddish and Blackburn are both trying to revive their fighters.

Round 2: Liston is the pursuer and he lands his jab and a one-two. Louis hits charley with short left and right hooks to the body and an uppercut to the chin. They both do some work on the inside and they trade blows. In about 25 seconds, Louis is staggered by a right uppercut by Charles, and Liston keeps on his hurt opponent. Liston lands crushing telling blows and a big overhand right drops louis... for the count!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 1:01 of the second round, Sooonnnnnnyyyyyyy Liiiiiistooooooonnn!(the crowd rejoices!)

Wow, that was unexpected! What will happen next? Tune in to find out. Once again, the final score is, liston-ko2. This is butterfly1964 saying goodbye from Convention Hall!!

hellfire508
06-16-2006, 04:14 AM
Liston knocks Louis out in 2? What dream was this in Butterfly? Should I say, "what wet dream?"

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 04:14 AM
Liston knocks Louis out in 2? What dream was this in Butterfly? Should I say, "what wet dream?"

Haha, very funny. :rolleyes:

hellfire508
06-16-2006, 04:55 AM
I try my best.

But seriously... 2 rounds?

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 04:57 AM
I try my best.

But seriously... 2 rounds?

It's a seven game series. Anything can happen.

SABBATH
06-16-2006, 10:03 AM
It's a seven game series. Anything can happen.I don't think a 2nd round KO is the most likely scenario but it's still an excellent match-up. Both guys are similar in style being patient boxer/punchers who both were cautious and willing to give ground and back off at times which may prevent this fight from being an early KO. Both guys could cut-off the ring but were succeptible to movement. That wouldn't be a factor here as both fighters would likely be flat footed in front of each other in a chess match.

Louis is slightly taller but Liston has the much longer reach and harder jab. Louis is the sharper, quicker more accurate puncher and has the better right hand but Liston has the better left hook and is physically stronger with the better chin. Both guys have good uppercuts and Louis is better at accurately gauging timing and distance on an opponent.

Both guys are top notch finishers when they have an opponent hurt. Louis' power was best applied with short punches but Liston's power was effective long range as well as in close.

Both guys also had good stamina when in shape so I don't see fatigue costing either fighter. Defensively they were also both good with Louis more of a blocker of punches and Liston more a slipper of punches, relying more on head movement and this could be the key to the fight. How effect will Louis parrying hand be against Liston's 84' reach power jab? Louis didn't use much head movement and instead parried jabs with his right glove and usually countered with his own jab. Against Liston he would often fall short with it if Sonny utilized his reach advantage.

Both guys could cut-off the ring but were succeptible to movement. That wouldn't be a factor here as both fighters would likely be flat footed in front of each other in a chess match.

Personally I think Louis is in a very precarious fight here. He has to solve the reach difference and Liston's jab then get close enough to use his superior handspeed and accurate punching. Other than the Schmeling and Marciano KO losses, all of Joe's trips to the canvas were in the first four rounds, so Louis has a history of being vulnerable early. Can Louis get the closer gaped distance he requires before Liston's long range power gets to him first? Butterfly just gave his opinion with his 2nd round KO result.

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 01:36 PM
Hello there, and welcome to The Western Conference Finals! I'm buterfly1964, your ringside commentator. Here is the fight!

2. Jack Dempsey vs. 1. Muhammad Ali - Stockyards Stadium, Denver, CO for fight #4. (ali leads 2-1)

Now let's send our crew over to Denver, Colorado. :D

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 01:36 PM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://www.megacalendars.com/images/posters/Muhammad%20Ali%20Poster%20AA882.jpg

Welcome folks, and good afternoon on behalf of Butterfly1964 Productions. Jack Dempsey let the third game slip away, but will he turn the trick on Muhammad Ali, the 2 to 1 favorite? Here's the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 190
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 205
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

It looks like Jack weighed in heavier to get that extra power he will need against the granite chin Ali. Ali is now bouncing down the aisle into the ring, wearing a white robe with yellow lettering on the back. He is staying warm in there, shadowboxing and moving. Now Jack Dempsey is seen attired with a black robe and many people cheer his arrival. Both men look determined.

Michael Buffer: Introducing, from Houston, TX, he's wearing white trunks with yellow strips, he stands six feet three inches, he weighs two hundred five pounds, Muhaaamaaad Alliiii! And his opponent, from Manassah, CO, he's wearing black trunks, he stands six feet one, weighing one hundred ninety pounds, Jaaaaaack Deeempseeeey!!!!!!!!!(the crowd cheers) 15 rounds! Llllllets get ready to ruumbllllllllllle!!!!!!!

Mark Conn: You both know the rules of the Colorado State Athletic boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times. Beak when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands.

Round 1: Ali circles the ring with tremendous speed and shoots out his jab. dempsey bobbes under it and throws a left lead and a right cross to the head. ali gets a one-two to the head and a left and right hook to the body and a right cross to the head, dempsey gets inside and pounds the body with short left hooks and crisp, clean uppercuts snapping the head of ali, and ali answers with a left hook of his own followed by a right cross to the chin and a left jab to the chin. ali ties jack up and they continue and ali uses the ring and shoots two jabs and a right cross. ali uses the ring for most of the round.

Round 2: Dempsey bobes and weaves and gets under ali's jab, but ali is just not there as he quickly gets out of danger. ali just moves and takes his time, making sure he gets in those lefts. he pops that jab and very often a one-two to keep dempsey off-balance. ali seems to have extra pop in his punches as well, cause he stuns dempsey periodically with his right cross. this is a good round for ali.

Round 3: Dempsey looks for an opening and lands a left hook. ali takes it well and gets in about four consecutive double jabs, landing most of them. dempsey once again gets through ali's reach and ali ties dempsey up, giving him no room to do his dirty work. dempsey is finding this task a little difficult, as ali is bigger, stronger and faster than Jack Johnson, his last foe! Ali is doing well, landing that right cross, never giving dempsey a break.

Round 4: Dempsey is still patient, and not going after him, but he is just bobbing in and out, looking for the right spot to throw a punch. Ali is still on his toes and using his jab effectively. ali ties dempsey up in the clinches and then throws left and right hooks to the body, then pulls back from any counter punches from dempsey. Ali looks impressive once again as he uses the ring and keeps away from the always pursuing dempsey.

Round 5: Ali keeps sticking that jab, and dempsey cannot seem to get through ali's long reach and just settles for long, looping, grazing left hooks that doesn't bother ali. ali game plan seems to be working once again, as ali uses the ring and commands the action as he always does. dempsey gets in a couple of left hooks as a wake-up call to muhammad.

Round 6: Ali keeps moving, but now he sits on his punches. ali's jab are piston-like now and they bother demspey a bit. ali shoots a right cross tot the chin and a left lead to body followed by an over right hand to ther jaw. dempsey gets a right corss to the body, and gets inside working the body and head. Bothe men do good in this round, but dempsey seems the stronger of the two, power-wise.

Round 7: Ali keeps using his jab, bludgeoning the face of Jack Dempsey. dempsey keeps right on him with solid body and head shots while ali head hunts with good, hard blows. dempsey is stunned a little and ali follows up with a hard overhand right and dempsey goes down! dempsey is up at three and they continue. ali tries to finish him, but dempsey survives!

Round 8: Dempsey is still; hurt, and ali knows this. ali comes out and throws fast, hard shots that ropck dempsey again. dempsey goes back and ali pursues. ali lands a right cross and down jack goes again. he is up at 9, and ali is still throwing flurry after flurry and dempsey is out on his feet, prompting referee Mark Conn to stop the fight.

Michael Buffer: The winner by a tko at 1:48 of the eighth round, Muhammad Aliii!

Well, Ali takes the 3-1 series lead and dempsey faces elimination! That's it for today. The final score is ali-tko8. This is butterfly1964 saying, Peace!! :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 01:37 PM
Hello there, and welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals! Today, we shall see who will break a deadlock tie.

6. Sonny Liston vs. 1. Joe Louis - Convention Hall, Philadelphia, PA for fight #4. (liston leads 2-1)

Now let's send our crew over to Philadelphia. ;)

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 02:10 PM
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg vs. http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg

Welcome to Convention Hall, where Sonny Liston will try to take the 3-1 series lead against Joe Louis. Liston is the 4 to 1 betting favorite. Here's the tale of the tape.

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 208***190;
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 203
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

And Joe Louis is coming down the aisle and into the ring and some cheers could be heard. Now the stadium erupts as Liston climbs into the ring. Liston looks determined to win this fight.

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid blue trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh three, the Brown Bomber, Joe Loouiss! Loouiss! And his opponent, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two oooh eight and three quarters, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liiistooooon! Liiiiistooooooon!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Round 1: Liston is the pursuer. Louis jabs liston and shoots a right to the jaw. liston answers with a right to the chin and a left hook to the chin. louis fires a one-two and left and rights to the jaw and uppercuts under the chin in close quarters. both men do good as they are great on the inside, and also at long range.

Round 2: Liston uses his reach and shots a series of jabs to the jaw of sonny. sonny throws a right hand and a left hook followed by a right to the body and a left ot the body. louis answeres back with a left hook to the chin and a one-two combination. liston slips louis' jab and throws left hook, stunning louis. liston follows up and has louis pinned against the ropes. louis is defenseless, but the bell saves him.

Round 3: Louis is still shaken up, but he recovers. They both do work on the inside, and this is where they spend most of their time. Louis is the faster of the two, and he tries to beat him to the punch and outswing liston. liston is calm and ripping the body and following up with big left hooks. Louis is also giving it to sonny by using his perfectly thrown punches at the right positions to put a hurt on sonny. This is an even round, as they both do well.

Round 4: Louis is still determined, and he jabs liston and throws good solid combinations to sonny's body and head. Sonny is slipping some of those pnches to get through with blows of his own. louis still is pressing on, scoring punches and hurting liston. Liston fights back with a one-two that grazes louis' jaw. louis is now the pursuer as he is firing back big shots to liston. but liston is taking every punch, and he will not go down. Liston throws some punches, but louis parries or slips them and counters with shots of his own.

Round 5: Both men are cautious in this round, and are hesitant to mix it up. they simply have a jabbing battle and louis wins that exchange due to the advantage in handspeed. liston throws a hard right to the chin and a left hook to the body, and louis answers with lefts and rights to the body. In close, liston pounds the body and head and uses his strength to outmuscle louis. Louis is weakened from all the punishment he is taking from liston. Louis answers with lefts and rights, but it has no effect.

Round 6: Liston is still going after joe, and landing good shots to the body and head. louis shoots a right hand and a left hooks but liston slips the right hand and blocks the left hook and fires some crushing blows of his own, to weaken joe some more. Liston does well, as he can keep joe away from him and when the y do happen to get in close, he pounds the body and ties louis up with his superior strength. Louis however, fires back with a left hook and an overhand right. louis keeps on him with lefts and right with blinding speed. louis gets in a left hook to the chin and a right hook to the body and a left and right to the chin and a right uppercutt to the body and a left uppercut to the jaw, and liston is hurt. liston is about to go down, but the bell saves him!

Round 7: Louis smells blood and he goes after sonny with left and rights to the body and head. Liston fires back, but to no avail. Louis drives a hard right to the chin and continues to fire fast punches and outswing liston. liston is hurt and louis continues his onslaught. a right hook sends liston reeling against the ropes! louis moves in to finish but liston ducks under a puch and as louis moves in, liston times an over right hnd punch perfectly, and now louis is hurt! louis is holding on! both men exchange and lis ton is coming back landing shots. a left hook and a right cross leaves louis against the ropes, and a left hook knocks louis through the ring! The crowd is cheering on their feet! Louis rolls back into the ring and tries to get up, but it's too late, and liston has won!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 2:54 of the seventh round, Sooonnnnnnyyyyyyy Liiiiiistooooooonnn!(the crowd rejoices!)

Wow, that was a great fight! Will Lisotn eliminate Louis in fight #5? Tune in to find out next time. Once again, the final score is, liston-ko7. This is butterfly1964 saying goodbye from Convention Hall!! :eek:

leff
06-16-2006, 04:56 PM
hmmmmmm

so eventually liston and ali will meet in the final?

no shock

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 07:08 PM
Please, points and good karma will be appreciated.

SABBATH
06-16-2006, 08:14 PM
Please, points and good karma will be appreciated. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Sonny quits on his stool. I hope butterfly makes it interesting like Ali getting blinded in the 5th or something unexpected. Maybe even a 1st round KO by Ali as he catches Liston cold and Ali refuses to go to a neutral corner.....nah no one would believe that;)

Dempsey 1919
06-16-2006, 08:32 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Sonny quits on his stool. I hope butterfly makes it interesting like Ali getting blinded in the 5th or something unexpected. Maybe even a 1st round KO by Ali as he catches Liston cold and Ali refuses to go to a neutral corner.....nah no one would believe that;)

Wow, you already have the Ali-liston finals decided, when neither ali or liston made it to the finals yet. ;)

Dempsey 1919
06-20-2006, 02:34 AM
Is this a forgotten thread? :(

sleazyfellow
06-20-2006, 04:33 AM
Is this a forgotten thread? :(

ur the one whose suppose to b going on with this thread, so it cant be finished till the finals r over, so get to it and have ali vs louis for the finals, the real greatest of all time heavyweights!

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 10:55 AM
Hello there, and welcome to The Western Conference Finals! I'm buterfly1964, your ringside commentator. Here is the fight!

2. Jack Dempsey vs. 1. Muhammad Ali - Stockyards Stadium, Denver, CO for fight #5. (ali leads 3-1)

Can Muhammad Ali move on to the finals today? Now let's send our crew over to Denver, Colorado. :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 11:30 AM
http://www.museumtrail.org/images/JackDempsey/jd5_TN.JPG vs. http://www.megacalendars.com/images/posters/Muhammad%20Ali%20Poster%20AA882.jpg

Welcome folks, and good afternoon on behalf of Butterfly1964 Productions. Jack Dempsey will try to survive elimination tonight as Muhammad Ali will try to move on to the finals. Dempsey was 188, and Ali was 206. Here is an interview of Muhammad before the fight.

Reporter: Well Muhammad, what will you do tonight?

Ali: The same thing as always. I should be able to win.

Reporter: What kind of shape are you in?

Ali: Oh, great! I'm lean and trim at about 205 or 206, maybe. Right now I'm just concentrating on either Slow Louis, or that big, ugly bear, Sonny Liston!

Here's the tale of the tape.

Jack Dempsey

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 188
reach: 77"
record: 61-4-9 (49ko)

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 206
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

Ali is now bouncing down the aisle into the ring, wearing a red robe with white lettering on the back. He is staying warm in there, shadowboxing and moving. Now Jack Dempsey is seen attired with a black robe and many people cheer his arrival. Both men look determined.

Michael Buffer: Introducing, from Houston, TX, he's wearing red trunks with white strips, he stands six feet three inches, he weighs two hundred six pounds, Muhaaamaaad Alliiii! And his opponent, from Manassah, CO, he's wearing black trunks, he stands six feet one, weighing one hundred eighty-eight pounds, Jaaaaaack Deeempseeeey!!!!!!!!!(the crowd cheers) 15 rounds! Llllllets get ready to ruumbllllllllllle!!!!!!!

Mark Conn: You both know the rules of the Colorado State Athletic boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times. Beak when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands.

Round 1: Ali moves out and uses his reach to keep dempsey at bay. Dempsey ducks under a punch and shoots a left hook tot he jaw. ali follows it up with a one two and two jabs. Ali pulls from a right cross from dempsey and dempsey moves back and moves in, throwing a left hook and missing. Ali uses the ringg well. He is moving at great speed to not let dempsey get a good crack at him.

Round 2: Ali still is on his toes and is using the right hand more to keep him off-balance, as well as his left jab. Dempsey shoots a uppercut that grazes ali's jaw and ali counters witha right. ali shots consecutive one-two and dempsey is more cautious. he bobbs in and out and ali uses his jab more. They both clinch and ali ties him up. They continue, and dempsey is throwing a fearsome combo, that ali avoids most of. Ali dances for the rest of the round without throwing a punch.

Round 3: Dempsey is going after ali, and ali picks him apart. ali is now flatfooted, and dempsey shoots a hard right to ali's midsection, and ali gets in a goodright hand. ali has his hands up to block shots and dempsey gets inside, but ali quickly moves away. ali does a shuffle and hits left and right hooks to the body and a one two to the head. They clinch a couple of times, and ali ties him up.

Round 4: Ali is on his toes again, and pops that jab. He uses the right hand well, and his own left hook. dempsey scores with a left hook, and ali just dances and lands his jab and right cross. dempsey's face is a little puffed up from all that punishment. ali dominates this round, fighting off the backfoot and landing sharp, crisp combinations.

Round 5: In this round Ali is still on his toes somewhat, but he goes more flatfooted and he puts some more pop on his punches. His jab goes in well, so does his right cross, and even some left hooks of his own! All this time, dempsey is looking to get in big left hooks, but it's Ali who lands tremendous left hooks. Dempsey somehow through all that bobbing and weaving gets ali on the ropes and punishes the body and head, but after dempsey gets in about 5 seconds of constant punching, ali holds behind his head and ties him up. Ali sticks to his game plan of moving to the left and occasionally to th right, shuffling his feet from side to side landing his left that keeps dempsey off-balance, and his left, that jarrs dempsey. This is a good round for ali.

Round 6: Ali keeps on moving and dempsey pursuing. ali shoots a hard right to jack's head and an uppercut and a left hook. dempsey misses with a right and ali counters with a one-two. Ali keeps on landing those combinations and dempsey does not know what to do. dempsey starts to throw dynamite hooks, but ali is calm and avoids them countering wth shots of his own. dempsey is stunned, and ali moves in to finish, but he can't do it.

Round 7: Ali is still on his toes, and his stamina looks better than ever. Dempsey somehow gets inside and lands some good body and head shots. demspey bobs under ali's jabs and gets inside once again. Ali ties him up and they continue. dempsey scores with his left hook and is looking better. ali is still on his toes, sticking out that jab. they both clinch, and ali ties him up again. Ali avoids about five blows and he uses his one-two well. This is a good round for ali.

Round 8: Ali is still moving and he is sticking and sticking. ali then throws a right hand moving in, and dempsey is hurt. dempsey starts bobbing and weaving like crazy and ali times his shots and dempsey is against the ropes. the crowd is on their feet in stunned silence. ali moves in to finish with a one two and an uppercut and an overhand right! The fight is over! Ali is going to the Playoff Boxing Finals!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a ko at 1:45 of the eighth round, Muhammad Aliii!

Ali consoles Dempsey and celebrates in his corner!

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 12:05 PM
Ali is celebrating as he puts on his Western Conference Champion shirt and hat. Here is Michael Buffer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the presentation of the Western Conference Finals Trophy! On behalf of the WBC, WBA, IBC, IBA, and other commissions, here is the trophy, Muhammad! Congradulations, Mr. Western Conference Champion!(some people cheer)

Muhammad Ali: Thank you, Mr. Buffer. First of all I'd like to thank almighty Allah for giving me the strength to fight all these fights and to get this far. I'd also like to thank my mamma and papa for supporting me throughout all these years. Also my trainer Angelo Dundee for whipping me into shape, and my Manager, Herbert Muhammad.

Angelo Dundee(trainer): Well, I'd like to say, that we have gone throught a lot in this tournament and we have persevered. It's not over, but I'm glad that we came this far, and after this we will get back to work and seek out that championship. Muhammad is a tremendous fighter and I am confident that we could win it all! Yeahh!

Herbert Muhammad(manager): Wow! This is something ain't it? Getting this far in the tournament. And now we have a chance to win the whole thing, well, I'm confident that this guy right here could do the job. He's done a lot for the sprort of boxing and I'm thrilled to be with him.

Muhammad Ali: Also, I'd like to thank my key sparring partner Mr. James Ellis, for working me and keeping my speed up to avoid all them punches, and also Dr. Ferdie Pacheco my doctor for keeping my health in balance, and also my wife, can't forget her Belinda, (and Sonji, Veronica, and Lonnie :D ), and all my friends that kept me in good spirits, and anyone else that I forgot to mention. Also I'd like to shout out to my homies in Houston, TX. I'm glad I got this trophy, and now let's go for the one that counts, the finals trophy! I know there has been some doubts about me and my ability, and this is a way for me to establish myself and to let the whole world know, that I'm still the best!!!!!!!

Muhammad hold the trophy and raises it in celebration and the whole entoruage goes into the dressing room.

Well, that will do it. Once again, the final score is ali-ko8.
This is butterfly1964, saying goodday! ;)

http://www.coolbobbleheads.com/photos/ali1.jpg

Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 12:14 PM
Hello there, and welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals!

6. Sonny Liston vs. 1. Joe Louis - Convention Hall, Philadelphia, PA for fight #5. (liston leads 3-1)

Liston can move on tonight with a win. Will he do it? Now let's send our crew over to Philadelphia. ;)

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 12:54 PM
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg vs. http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg

Welcome to Convention Hall, where Sonny Liston will try to win this series tonight against Joe Louis. Liston is the 6 to 1 betting favorite. Here's the tale of the tape.

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 212
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 206
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

And Joe Louis is coming down the aisle and into the ring and some cheers could be heard. Now the stadium erupts as Liston climbs into the ring. Liston looks determined to win this fight.

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid blue trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh three, the Brown Bomber, Joe Loouiss! Loouiss! And his opponent, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two oooh eight and three quarters, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liiistooooon! Liiiiistooooooon!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Pennsylvania State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Both men move out. Liston is the pursuer. both men use their jabs, they have very good one's indeed. Louis jabs and rips those lightning fast combos to the head, while lston slips some of the punches and go to the body. Both men clinch and they do some body work, with Louis outslugging his opponent. Liston lands a good left hook, which louis takes. Louis is jabbing and landing right hands when he can and slipping liston's shots. It's a fairly even round, as they both test each other's chins.

Round 2: Liston is still pressuring louis and louis jabs and gets out of a corner. they both clinch and louis rips big shots to the body and head and liston holds on and takes time to recover. they break, and louis goes after him throwing great leather and liston looks out of it, but he recovers and fights back. This is louis' round, but liston still puts up a good fight.

Round 3:Liston is still the pursuer. Louis is not backing up quite as much as in the first fight, but he is still being forced back, somewhat. Louis shoots a hard right to liston jaw, and liston still presses on. Louis is jabbing and throwing combinations when he is in position. Louis is being pressured against the ropes, but he parries most of liston's blows and fires a hard combo of lefts and rights. Liston is stunned a little, but he is fighting back, with his piston jab, he sets up his power shots that keep louis away.

Round 4: Louis is still being pushed back, and liston is trying to rip his body. they both clinch and they do tremendous amounts of damage. Louis fires jolting uppercuts to liston's jaw and he folows up with blistering left hooks. liston fights back with his tremendous bombs and louis is hurt! Liston follows it up with left hooks and overhand rights. Liston keeps up this attack and louis looks done, but the bell saves louis!

Round 5: Louis is still shaken up, but he recovers. They both do work on the inside, and this is where they spend most of their time. Louis is the faster of the two, and he tries to beat him to the punch and outswing liston. liston is calm and ripping the body and following up with big left hooks. Louis is also giving it to sonny by using his perfectly thrown punches at the right positions to put a hurt on sonny. This is an even round, as they both do well.

Round 6: Liston kepps applying the pressure, and louis uses his jab. liston scores a right uppercut and a right cross to the jaw. louis shoots a hard right to the body and liston counters a left hook to the body, and a left and right to the head and a left lead to the body. louis is bacvked against the ropes and takes tremendous punishment. It's all liston as he has louis on his last leg.

Round 7: Liston keeps on pounding louis into dust as louis tries to defend himself, but can't. Liston is having his way, scoring a left jab and a right corss, then a left hook to the head and they both clinch. liston pounds louis' body and hits him with big uppercuts. Liston scores some more punches and louis goes down! The crowd is on their feet. louis is up at three and the bell rings!

Round 8: Louis tries to fight back, using his jab and his right hand, but at this point liston is too strong for louis. Louis shoots some shots tothe body and liston answers with left hooks. louis lands some good right hands to try to get back inti this match. Louis is trying desperately to survive elimination. Liston is working on that body and methodically wearing joe down with that jab. Liston is doing well in this round.

Round 9: Liston uses his reach and shots a series of jabs to the jaw of sonny. sonny throws a right hand and a left hook followed by a right to the body and a left ot the body. louis answeres back with a left hook to the chin and a one-two combination. liston slips louis' jab and throws left hook, stunning louis. liston follows up and has louis pinned against the ropes. louis is defenseless, but the bell saves him!

Round 10: They both fight in close and they both try to hurt one another. louis finds his target in liston's midsectionm and works it over. liston works the body and uses uppercuts to stun joe. After a while, louis is writhing from tantalyzing shots by liston, and liston goes into turbo mode, scoring with a right hand to the head, lefts and rights to the body, and consecutive uppercuts, followed by left hooks to the jaw and lefts and rights to the midsection. liston scores a lot to the head and louis head snaps back with each blow. louis is now staggering all over the ring, and conn almost stops it, but the bell sounds!

Round 11: It seems that the end is near for louis. Liston scores great shots to the body and head and pounds louis into desert sand. louis seems like he is about to just drop from all that punishment he is taking. Liston moves in to finish and louis sdcores with a counter jab. Liston backs up a bit and moves in again, and louis scores a right hand from nowhere, and liston is stunned. They fight in close and louis is now fighting back and scoring with big uppercuts that almost take liston's head off. Louis uses his shuffling feet and economy of motion to get in position while parrying liston's blows. louis uppercuts liston again and then a big right hook that drops liston! The crowd is into this as liston struggles to his feet, but he gets up too late, as the referee counts to ten and says that it's all over! But what a fight Sonny Liston gave!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout, at 2:59 of the eleventh round, Joooe Loouiisss!

Wow, that was anogher great fight, and Louis will live to fight another day. Tune in to find out what happens next. Once again, the final score is, louis-ko11. This is butterfly1964 saying goodbye from Convention Hall!! :eek: :eek:

Dempsey 1919
06-21-2006, 06:09 PM
Points and good k would be appreciated. :D

Dempsey 1919
06-29-2006, 02:27 AM
Welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals. I'm butterfly1964, and this is do or die for our number one seed.

1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fight #6. (liston leads 3-2)

Let's go over to Detroit, Michigan. :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
06-29-2006, 02:40 AM
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg vs. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg

Welcome to the Olympia stadium in Detroit, where Joe Louis will stave off elimination against Sonny Liston. Over 50,000 came tonight to see if Louis could tie up the series. He is the 3 to 1 underdog. Louis weighed an in-shape 205, and liston was 211. Here's the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 205
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 211
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

And now Sonny Liston is in the ring, and some people boo, some people cheer. He is wearing a black robe. Joe Louis comes down the aisle and the crowd goes wild! Louis is wearing a white robe.

And now here is Michael Buffer!

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals! Introducing, from Philadelphis, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two eleven, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liston! Liston! And his opponent, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid white trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh five, the Brown Bomber, Joooe Loouissss! Looouiiisss!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Round 1: Liston is the pursuer. Louis shuffles a bit and jabs liston. Louis throws a one-two and liston cuntes with a left hook. Liston is doing some good counterpunching in this round, as well, as keeping that jab in joe's face. Louis is throwing good combinations and he is defending well.

Round 2: Liston is still on the atack, and he opens up when he has joe on the ropes. Louis inadvertently fights back and he catches sonny. sony is wobbled a bit, but he takes a good punch and he recovers. Louis takes over, throwing fast, short, powerful combinations. Liston is still hanging tough, but this is louis' round.

Round 3: Louis is now on the attack. Liston jabs and is now moving back, but louis is right on him. Louis is croutched a bit acting like a force of nature ready to spring up at any moment. liston tries to use his size and strength, but after about a half a round of being pushed around louis decides to just pick liston up during a clinch, ala Primo Carnera! After that experience, Liston stops to bullying then and there. Louis is still the agressor, landing shots moving in, scoring overhand rights and jolting uppercuts.

Round 4: Louis moves in and gets liston against the ropes and pumels him to the body and head. Liston has no answer to this. Referee mark Conn halts the whole thing.

Michael Buffer: The winner by a technical knockout, at 0:33 of the fourth round, Jooooe Loouiissss!!

Everyone in the stands is really happy. Louis now evens up the series. Tune in next time for the decisive game seven. It's anybody's game now! Once again, the final score is louis-tko4. This is butterfly1964 saying goodnight, from Olympia Stadium!

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 08:30 PM
Welcome to The Eastern Conference Finals. I'm butterfly1964, and this might be a great seventh game thriller!

1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fight #7. (series tied at 3-3)

Let's go over to Detroit, Michigan. :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 08:53 PM
http://www.hickoksports.com/images/louis_joe.jpg vs. http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/images/sl.jpg

Welcome to the Olympia stadium in Detroit, where both Joe Louis and Sonny Liston will try to advance. Over 60,000 came tonight to see if Louis could close out the series at home. There is no clear favorite and anyone could win. Louis weighed an in-shape 204, and liston was 209. I talked to Joe louis this morning.

butterfly1964: What will you do to win this fight?

Louis: I'll have to play possum for a while, and then take over in the later rounds.

butterfly: Oh, is that what you ave been doing?

Louis: Yes. I figure, I could hold back and come on strong later.

butterfly: What do you think a match against Muhammad ALi will do for boxing?

Louis: A lot. Many of the boxing writers and fans rank us in the top two out of all thge heavyweights, so this will be a huge series, should I win, which I hope to do so.

butterfly: Thank you, Joe.

Here's the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 204
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Sonny Liston

age: 28
height: 6'-1"
weight: 209
reach: 84"
record: 28-1-0 (18ko)

And now Sonny Liston is in the ring, and some people boo, some people cheer. He is wearing a black robe. Joe Louis comes down the aisle and the crowd goes wild! Louis is also wearing a black robe.

And now here is Michael Buffer!

Buffer: Welcome to the Eastern Conference Finals final game! Introducing, from Philadelphia, PA, wearing black trunks with white strips, at six feet one, weighing two oh nine, The Big Bear, Charles Sonny Liston! Liston! And his opponent, from Detroit, MI, wearing solid black trunks, at six feet two weighing two oooh four, the Brown Bomber, Joooe Loouissss! Looouiiisss!(the crows cheers)

Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Fight clean, and break when I tell you. Any questions? Ok, good luck.

Round 1: Both men move out. Liston is the pursuer. both men use their jabs, they have very good one's indeed. Louis jabs and rips those lightning fast combos to the head, while lston slips some of the punches and go to the body. Both men clinch and they do some body work, with Louis outslugging his opponent. Liston lands a good left hook, which louis takes. Louis is jabbing and landing right hands when he can and slipping liston's shots. It's a fairly even round, as they both test each other's chins.

Round 2: Liston is still pressuring louis and louis jabs and gets out of a corner. they both clinch and louis rips big shots to the body and head and liston holds on and takes time to recover. they break, and louis goes after him throwing great leather and liston looks out of it, but he recovers and fights back. This is louis' round, but liston still puts up a good fight.

Round 3: Louis is still determined, and he jabs liston and throws good solid combinations to sonny's body and head. Sonny is slipping some of those pnches to get through with blows of his own. louis still is pressing on, scoring punches and hurting liston. Liston fights back with a one-two that grazes louis' jaw. louis is now the pursuer as he is firing back big shots to liston. but liston is taking every punch, and he will not go down. Liston throws some punches, but louis parries or slips them and counters with shots of his own.

Round 4: Louis is still pursuing, and liston uses his reach to keep joe away from him. sonny is trying to counter joe's blows, but at this point louis is beating to the punch and is just too fast for liston. Louis scores a right to liston's jaw and louis goes down! liston is up at 4, and they continue. Louis is landing great blows and liston is defenseless. Liston tries to fire back, but louis slips the punch and counters with a right and continues his onslaught. Louis is landing telling blows, and it looks like sonny might go down again, but the bell saves him!

Round 5: Louis smells blood and he goes after sonny with left and rights to the body and head. Liston fires back, but to no avail. Louis drives a hard right to the chin and continues to fire fast punches and outswing liston. liston is hurt and louis continues his onslaught. a right hook sends louis reeling against the ropes! louis moves in to finish but liston has great heart and will not go down.

Round 6: Louis is still going after sonny and he seems to be in control. Liston seems like he doesn't want to be in the ring. he's still standing, but that is it. Louis throws good power shots that stun liston. The end seems to be near. Louis is dominating and liston has no answer to louis' skill and power.

Round 7: Both men are cautious in this round, and are hesitant to mix it up. they simply have a jabbing battle and louis wins that exchange due to the advantage in handspeed. liston throws a hard right to the chin and a left hook to the body, and louis answers with lefts and rights to the body. In close, liston pounds the body and head and uses his strength to outmuscle louis. Louis answers with lefts and rights, and liston is stunned and he covers up. the crowd is on their feet as the round ends.

Round 8: Louis and liston clinch, and liston does some good body work. they both circle and throw punches, and louis is the stronger of the two. liston thrpows a left hook, which louis slips and gets in a hard right hand that stuns sonny. The crowd is on their feet as louis sets up his man and fires a right uppercut and a straight left and liston is down! Liston is just lying there, shielding his face from the crowd. He doesn't get up. The fight is over! Louis is going to the Playoff Boxing Finals!

Louis walks calmly back to his corner and he and Blackburn celebrate.

Michael Buffer: The winner by a technical knockout, at 1:33 of the eighth round, Jooooe Loouiissss!!

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 09:04 PM
Louis has a smile on his face as he dons his Western Conference Champion shirt and hat. Here is Michael Buffer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the presentation of the Eastern Conference Finals Trophy! On behalf of the WBC, WBA, IBC, IBA, and other commissions, here is the trophy, Joe! Congradulations, Mr. Eastern Conference Champion!(the crowd goes wild)

Jack Blackburn(trainer): Well, I know we had our supporters, but we also had unbelievers as well, and I'm glad we got this far and lets go win it all!

John Roxbury(manager): I knew Joe would win. He's a great kid and I'm thrilled to be a part of the whole thing.

Julian Black(manager): We all are proud of him and I hope that we can go on and beat Ali and win this tournament. Joe's a great fighter, and Muhammad will have his hands full.

(cheers are heard as Louis takes the microphone)

Joe Louis: I am glad I won, and it was a rough and tough seven fight, everyone of them. Liston is a great fighter, and he almost beat me. Well, I suppose that Ali will be a tough fight as well. But we will win, because we are on God's side! Thank you!

Joe Louis holds the trophy and raises it in celebration and the whole entoruage goes into the dressing room.

Well, that will do it. Once again, the final score is louis-ko8.
This is butterfly1964, saying goodday! ;)

http://www.fighttoys.com/Louis,Joe%20(on%20horse%206-10-35)a.JPG

Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 09:11 PM
We have finally come to the end of the Conference Finals. Here were our initial competitors.

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali - Houston, TX
2. Jack Dempsey - Manassah, CO

EAST

1. Joe Louis - Detroit, MI
6. Sonny Liston - Philadelphia, PA

* = winner

West matchups:

*1. Muhammad Ali vs. 2. Jack Dempsey 4-1

East matchups:

*1. Joe Louis vs. 6. Sonny Liston 4-3

So now we are left with:

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali - Houston, TX

EAST

1. Joe Louis - Detroit, MI

So here is our final matchup!

"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals

(E) Joe Louis vs. (W) Muhammad Ali - Olympia Stadium, Detroit, MI for fights 1, 2, 6, and 7. Houston Astrodome, Houston, TX for fights 3, 4, and 5.

Enjoy!! :D :D

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 09:55 PM
Well folks what do you think so far? Did it suprise you? :p

Yaman
07-01-2006, 10:45 PM
Louis-Ali wont be so bad. Good job i guess. nice pic at the end.

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 10:46 PM
Louis-Ali wont be so bad. Good job i guess. nice pic at the end.

Yeah, everyone was saying that it was gonna be Ali-Liston. I guess this was a shocker, huh? :D

Yaman
07-01-2006, 10:48 PM
Yeah, everyone was saying that it was gonna be Ali-Liston. I guess this was a shocker, huh? :D

Gyeah, i nearly spilled my drink. You really fooled them.

Dempsey 1919
07-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Gyeah, i nearly spilled my drink. You really fooled them.

Yeah, well like I said, upsets are possible.

I will pick 16 all-time great fighters, the top 8 from the west, and the top 8 from the east(so if you don't see a few fighters on list it is because the east or west has enough people. it will be all 7-bout series, so upsets are possible. the seeds i give them will not be based on my opinion, but on what i hear from people on this forum.

RockyMarcianofan00
07-02-2006, 03:54 AM
Not really because Ali and Louis are considered by most (but not you) to be the best 2 of all time.....so now its gunna be Ali with the win overall

no shock there

so folks there you have it Ali wins the Championship
this is RockyMarcianofan00 saying goodnight...

:D

RockyMarcianofan00
07-02-2006, 03:55 AM
Not really because Ali and Louis are considered by most (but not you) to be the best 2 of all time.....so now its gunna be Ali with the win overall

no shock there

so folks there you have it Ali wins the Championship
this is RockyMarcianofan00 saying goodnight...

:D
I'm just messing with you but seriously that is how i see the outcome

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:18 AM
Good evening, members of Boxingscene! On behalf of Butterfly1964 Productions, we present the Playoff Boxing Finals. This is the well anticipated matchup between arguably the two best Heavyweights ever!

(E) Joe Louis vs. (W) Muhammad Ali - Olympia Stadium in Detroit, Michigan for fight #1.

Hope you'll enjoy it.

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:30 AM
In the Midwestern part of the United States, there is a state, Michigan, and a city, called Detroit. In this city we find that they are many important annual events and landmarks that make this town a popular attraction. For Nascar fans, there is the Daytona 500, a very popular race in Detroit, thus giving it the name "The Motor City". Then there is the Detroit Lions in football, the Detroit Tigers in baseball, the Detroit Red Wings in Hockey, and for you hoopsters, there is the recently dethroned Detroit Pistons located at The Palace in Auburn Hills. However, the big event being held in this city is located in an arena called Olympia Stadium. Inside this stadium, there are exactly 104,176 attendants to watch this apparently grand event. Many people from Hollywood and show business are here to witness this sporting event.

Presenting,










"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals!










for the John L. Sullivan Trophy!










between










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Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion










versus










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Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion










The judges are Artie Aidala and Tony Castellani. The referee is Mark Conn. The ring announcer is Michael Buffer. The ring size is 24'x24'. 15 rounds or less, or perhaps more, should there be a draw.

There are many questions that have to be answered in this fight. Will Muhammad Ali be able to handle Louis' power? Will Joe Louis be Able to handle Ali's speed? This is an interesting tale of styles here. However we do know one thing. They are arguably the two most dominant fighters ever. Both men dominated not one, but two decades! Louis dominated the 1930s and 1940s, and Ali dominated the 1960s and 1970s. This is the stuff legends are made of. One thing to note here is how each fighter to react to a loss. We all know that both Louis and Ali were excellent in rematches. This is evident in Louis when he fought Max Schmeling, Buddy Baer, Abe Simon, Arturo Godoy, Billy Conn, and Jersey Joe Walcott. This is also evident in Ali when he fought Henry Cooper, Sonny Liston, George Chuvalo, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, and Leon Spinks. Personally I feel that whoever loses this first match will win the next one, based on this observation. Both men trained their butts off for this fight, and they are in phenominal shape. Joe Louis weighed in at 205lbs., while Muhammad Ali tipped the scales at 210. Although Louis has the home-ring advantage in this series, there is no clear favorite. It's a deadlock at 1 to 1. Let's go to the press conference.

Ali: How you doing Slow Louis? Ready to lose? I tell you all that I'm gonna cut him up and rip him to shreds!

Louis: Save all that energy for the fight, you'll need it when I knock you out!

Ali: Please, you'll be swinging at air all night, fool! You can't touch me. Iiiiiiii Aaaaammm Theeeeeeee Greatestttt!

Louis: After tonight, you will be the great loser.

Ali: Is that all you can come up with, chump?

Louis: I let my fists do the talking. I don't need a big mouth like you do.

Ali: You may not have a big mouth, but I'll give you a fat lip!

Louis: Careful there Ali, you might break a vocal cord.

Ali: Ali comes out to meet Louis,
and Louis starts to retreat,
if Louis goes back any further,
he'll end up in a ringside seat.
Ali swings with his left,
Ali swings with his right,
just look at the way
Ali carries the fight.
Now Louis keeps backin'
but there's not enough room,
it's only a matter of time,
before Ali lowers the boom.
Now at this point of the fight,
Ali takes a mighty swing,
and the punch lifts Joe
clean out of the ring.
As everyone looks up
the ref wears a frown,
'cause he can't start counting
till Joe comes down.
Now Joe Louis disappears from view,
the crowd is getting frantic,
but our radar stations just picked him up,
he's somewhere's over the Atlantic.
Now who would have thought
when they came to the fight
that they would be witnessing the launching
of a human satellite.
Usually a bomb is launched up
and comes down to where it's sent
but the brown bomber is launched up
and out never to be seen again!
I AM THEE GREATEST!!!!

(the crowd is bursting out laughing)

Louis: I have a poem, too!

Crowd: Ooohhhhhh!(They are a bit surprised, but very intrested in what Louis has to say)

Ali: Ok, Slow, hehe. Let's hear it.

Louis: Ali comes out dancing,
Ali comes out bold,
Ali moves and dances some more,
and Ali is knocked cold!

(the crowd laughs hysterically again)

Well, there you have it folks. Looks like these two are ready. Here is the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 205
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 210
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

As you can see, Ali is the slightly bigger man. Louis has more power, though.

The crowd cheers as Muhammad Ali comes down the aisle, with a huge entourage. Bodyguards, cameramen and othes are with him, including his trainer Angelo Dundee. Ali is attired with a white robe with his name stiched in black lettering. He is in the ring and warms up.

The crowd now roars for Joe Louis entrance, and there are about twice as many people surounding Louis than Ali, about 30. Louis is accompanied by trainer Jack Blackburn, and has on a black robe with his name stiched in white lettering. He now comes in the ring and has a determined look on his face.

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:34 AM
Here is our ring announcer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Playoff Boxing Finals! This is to see who is the greatest heavyweight of all-time! Once and for all, llllets get readyyy to rummmblllllllle! Fifteen rounds! Introducing, from Houston, Texas, wearing white trunks with black stripes, standing six feet three inches tall, weighing two hundred ten pounds, nicknamed, "The Greatest", The Western Conference Champion, Muhammad Aliiii!(the crowd cheers with excitement)Aliiiiii! And his opponent,(the crowd roars now) from right here in Detroit, Michigan, wearing black trunks with white stripes, standing six feet two inches tall and weighing two hundred five pounds, nicknamed "The Brown Bomber", The Eastern Conference Champioooooooon, your Joe Looouiiisss!(the crowd is estatic)Looouiiissss!

Mark Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands and come out fighting.

Both men have come a long way to be here. Joe Louis went through Ezzard Charles in four games, Mike Tyson in six games, and Sonny Liston in seven games. Muhammad Ali went through James Jeffries in four games, George Foreman in six games, and Jack Dempsey in five games. Louis has the initials "JL" on his trunks, while Ali's trunks are plain. The gladiators are wearing ten ounce gloves.

Round 1: As both men move out, the fight goes just as predicted. Louis is stalking Ali, patiently waiting to get into position to throw his punches, while Ali just glides and slides and hides behind a good left jab that might kep Louis a bit off balance. As Ali moves, Louis is patiently waiting to throw that leather. Louis jabs ali, but misses. Ali however finds the mark with his jab. Louis is still waiting and looking. Louis gets in a light jab, and ali keeps moving. ali lets go a one-two, the left scoring, but the right is blocked. This is a feeling out stage, and Louis just jabs Ali and throws only fives right hands, three of them connecting. They clinch a few times, and Ali uses his superior strength to neutralize Joe's inside work. Joe concentrates on wearing down the endlessly moving Ali: Blackburn and Dundee are giving their fighters instructions.

Round 2: Louis comes out and pursues ali, and ali moves to the left and pops that jab. louis slips the jab and scores with a righ hand. ali scores a one-two and then a left hook and an overhand right. Louis gets in a left hook to the body and a right cross to the chin. Louis jabs and throws a right hand but misses. Ali keeps that jab up and keeps moving with tremendous speed to keep Louis off-balance. Louis gets ali against the ropes and pounds the body, but after ali ties him up and pushes Joe away. Ali keeps snapping the left hand to joe's eye: Blackburn is applying ice to the eye, and Dundee is icing ali's chest.

Round 3: Louis keeps on pressuring Ali, but ali finds a way to avoid those corners and stay in ring center. Ali keeps jabbing and using the right hand with force. Louis cannot get under ali's rechbut only a couple of times, but that is not enough. Ali applies good combos to Joe's face, and Joe is trying to stay in it, but he cannot cope with Muhammad's speed right now: Blackburn is still applying ice to the eye, and giving advice.

Round 4: Louis ducks under Ali's jab frequently to land body shots and snap ali's chin. Louis is getting in better, using good tactics that Blackburn gave him during the rest period. Louis lands the jab a bit more, and times his right hand just right. Louis also uses the left hook, which is Ali's Achilles heel. It's all louis as he corners ali and rips the body periodically to wear down his opponent: Dundee tells Ali to uppercut Louis when he ducks under ali's jab, and to stay on his toes. Blackburn is applying more ice and telling joe to keep waiting for ali to throw a punch and react.

Round 5: Louis does the same thing he does in the other round, but as dundee told him, ali uppercut louis when he ducks, and he does this frequently. Ali also moves with great speed to offset louis and to buy him time. louis jabs him in the face and ali jabs back, but louis is afraid to duck, so he takes the punch instead. they both score with right hands and louis cannot get good shots to the body during clinches, as ali stops him: Dundee is giving ali advice, and so is Blackburn to joe.

Round 6: Ali is more flatfooted this time, but still elusive. louis tries to go after him, but ali backs away and louis cannot reach him. Louis paws with his hands and throws a right cross that grazes ali's jaw. ali throws a hard one-two that staggers louis for a moment. Ali moves in to finish, but louis recovers quickly and throws some nice countershots, that gain ali's respect. Ali keeps jabbing louis, and louis is still stalking until the end of the round: Blackburn is applying ice to joe's swollen eye, and dundee is rubbing down Muhammad.

Round 7: Ali is still flatfooted to get that extra power. Ali is just watching and watching, but still using the left hand. Joe periodically gets under ali's reach, but is tied up. ali putsa left hand in the face of Louis, and louis moves it with his right and scores with a left hook that stuns ali. Louis moves in, but ali covers up and louis backs off. ali lands good solid blows that jarr louis continuously. louis face is well swollenm from the punishment, and ali's face is slightly marked, but nothing serious. ali just keeps on louis until louis is dazed. aoi lands sme good blows at the bell: Blackburn is working furiously on Louis' face.

Round 8: Ali is confident now and goes out throwing bombs. A left hook and an overhand right stun louis, and ali the throws a left uppercut and a sharp straight right that drops louis! Louis tries to get up, but he stumbles and falls again. Louis is counted out as louis is up at the count of ten.

Michael Buffer: The winner by ko at :48 seconds of the eighth round, Muhammad Aliii!

Ali goes over to console Louis. Ali marches out of the ring in victory as he takes fight #1. Let's go to the post fight press conferences.

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:35 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How did you react to Louis' power?

Ali: His punches are stiff and hard. He did shake me a little, but he wasn't fast enough to follow it up.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: Will you change your gameplan for tomorrow?

Ali: Not really. I'll do the same things, only I will learn from this fight and maybe add a few things here and there.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: Did the crowd affect you at all?

Ali: The crowd wasn't much of a bother, a lot of people were pulling for me, too, so no, the crowd didn't really affect me.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Do you really dislike Louis?

Ali: Not really. This was just to build up the fight. I have nothing against the guy.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: When did you know you had him?

Ali: Actually, I thought I had him in the sixth, but he did come back. but after the seventh, I knew I could put him away.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: Did you think you were going to lose at any time?

Ali: Well, I don't know if you want to say lose, but in the fourth, he was hitting me more so I wondered in my mind for a moment.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Do you feel that Louis is now in your eyes an easy opponent?

Ali: Not at all. If I wasn't on my toes, I knew I would've lost. He's too tricky, he's got fast hands, and he could bang on top of that. So I still will train hard for the next fight.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter8: Do you feel that he learned anything about you in this fight, and that he might try to use it in the next fight?

Ali: I imagine he might, but I have to stay on top of that situation. I believe my speed should still prevail, though.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter9: Did you think you could knock him out before the fight started, or not?

Ali: I wasn't really going for the knockout at first. I was just moving and jabbing and letting my hands go, and when I saw the opportunity, I took advantage of it.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter10: Are there any mind games you have planned, Mr. Ali?

Ali: You'll just have to wait and see, brother!

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter11: Have you worked on tying this man up in sparring?

Ali: Yes, I have some sparring partners who find similar to joe and I was fortunate enough to work with them to prepare for this fight.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter12: What did your trainer angelo dundee tell you between rounds four and five?

Ali: Oh Angi, he said that I should watch out for when Joe ducked and I should uppercut him coming in.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:36 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How much trouble did you have with Ali's left jab?

Louis: Oh, I had plenty trouble. It's fast as a rocket, and it hurts a lot, too. It's really the speed of the punches that stun you and you don't know what to do.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: Did the movement bother you?

Louis: Yes, it did, but i was just taking my time, and trying to close the space, but I didn't crowd him enough, I suppose.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: Will you change your style?

Louis: My trainer discussed me fighting more like a crowding fighter, it might do some good.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: How suseptible to a left hook is Ali in your opinion?

Louis: He would get hit with it, but a body would have to get real close to get it in, but I would say he is somewhat vulnerable.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: In your opinion, can you beat this man?

Louis: I think I can. Like I said, if I just do some different things I know I will give him more problems.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter6: What went through our mind when you were floored?

Louis: I just tried to push myself up, but my legs were weak and I couldn't stay up, but I tried.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter6: You dropped the first game to Mike Tyson, and to Sonny Liston, but you came back to win those games. Do you feel that will give you a little confidence going into the second game?

Louis: I think so. I faced adversity before and I know how to handle it.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter7: Will you win this next game?

Louis: I hope so.

Reporter8: How much of a problem was Ali's reach advantage, seven inches?

Louis: It was tough, plus he was moving a lot, that is one of the things me and Chappy are gonna work on for this next fight.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-06-2006, 11:39 AM
Wow, what an event. Well, that will do it for today. Once again, the final score is ali-ko8. Feel free to comment on this thread just go to www.boxingscene.com/forums, go to the History Section (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5) and click on NBA Playoffs + Boxing = (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70271). On behalf of Butterfly1964 productions, this is butterfly1964 saying goodnight, from Detroit! :boxing:

Mike Tyson77
07-10-2006, 12:16 PM
Tyson got robbed!!! He should be champ, and no freakin way does Ali KO Louis in 8. Maby a 15 round UD.

Southpaw Stinger
07-10-2006, 01:42 PM
Tyson got robbed!!! He should be champ,

lol no he shouldn't. He was in with the best here and fell short because he's not one of them!

Mike Tyson77
07-12-2006, 02:54 PM
lol no he shouldn't. He was in with the best here and fell short because he's not one of them!


That's funny. Maby Tyson wasnt the greatest, but he was one of them. If Max can KO Louis, so could Tyson.

Hard Boiled HK
07-12-2006, 10:09 PM
Gyeah, i nearly spilled my drink. You really fooled them.


Hahahahahahahaha

Dempsey 1919
07-13-2006, 09:54 PM
Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Playoff Boxing Finals! This might be interesting.

(E) Joe Louis vs. (W) Muhammad Ali - Olympia Stadium in Detroit, Michigan for fight #2. (ali leads 1-0)

Let's pick it up in Detroit.

Dempsey 1919
07-13-2006, 09:55 PM
Presenting,

"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals!










for the John L. Sullivan Trophy!










between










http://www.authentichistory.com/audio/1930s/sports/images/joe_louis_01.jpg
Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion










versus










http://www.bettaauctions.com/ebay/images/10/105003/105003.jpg
Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion

Louis has his hands full tonight. He is down one game and he wants to even the series. As I said before in the last fight, Louis, as well as Ali are excellent in rematches. Can Louis keep his rematch string perfect tonight? Louis weighed in at 204, one pound lighter than in fight #1. Ali was 211¾lbs., still in great shape. Both men have learned something from the last fight. Here is something that went on during the press conference.

Ali: I have a present for Joe. Here it is. A book. The title is "Uncle Tom's Cabin"!

(crowd laughs)

Louis just doesn't say anything, but is a very serious man.

Well, there you have it folks. Looks like these two are ready. Here is the tale of the tape.

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 204
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 211¾
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

The crowd cheers as Muhammad Ali bounces up and down through the aisle. Ali is attired with a white robe with his name stiched in red lettering. He is in the ring and warms up.

The crowd now roars for Joe Louis entrance, as he comes into the ring, wearing a blue robe with his name stiched in white lettering. He now comes in the ring and has a determined look on his face.

Here is our ring announcer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Playoff Boxing Finals! This is to see who is the greatest heavyweight of all-time! Once and for all, llllets get readyyy to rummmblllllllle! Fifteen rounds! Introducing, from Houston, Texas, wearing white trunks with red stripes, standing six feet three inches tall, weighing two hundred eleven and three quarter pounds, nicknamed, "The Greatest", The Western Conference Champion, Muhammad Aliiii!(the crowd cheers with excitement)Aliiiiii! And his opponent,(the crowd roars now) from right here in Detroit, Michigan, wearing blue trunks with white stripes, standing six feet two inches tall and weighing two hundred four pounds, nicknamed "The Brown Bomber", The Eastern Conference Champioooooooon, your Joe Looouiiisss!(the crowd is estatic)Looouiiissss!

Mark Conn: You know the rules of the Michigan State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands and come out fighting.

Since we all know Louis' history in rematches, the odds are still at 1 to 1.

Round 1: Louis is stalking Ali. Ali does his same routine of dancing and prancing and shoving that left hand in Louis' eye. Ali jabs and moves and gets in a fast straight right, now and then. Louis just waits and jabs ali when he gets the chance. Louis is bending his knees a bit, and his legs a bit wider than the last time, unusual for louis to do. Louis gets in a left hook and a right cross to ali's midsection and a left to the chin. ALi ties louis up and dances away and fires rapid-fire combinations: Both men are a little more relaxed as Blackburn and Dundee encourage the two.

Round 2: Louis is bending as he shoots a left jab to the chin and a fast left hook, but misses. Ali fires a left jab and a right hand and ties up Louis. Louis gets ali on the ropes an rips the body. Ali pushes him off, but louis comes back with some body shots before ali ties joe up. muhammad, is still on his toes popping the left jab. ali shoots a left hook and a right uppercut as louis comes in, but louis blocks it and shoots a good right hand: Louis looks ready, and dundee is giving ali advice.

Round 3: Ali is still on his toes, moving and grooving, and louis just waits for the right moment. Louis crowds ali against the ropes and rips the body and jaw. Ali fires back but to no avail as louis is finding his target with left hooks. ali shoves louis away, and jabs, but louis is right on him: Ali is a bit tired, but louis is fresh.

Round 4: Ali is flatfooted, and one-two's louis. Louis fires a jab that is short of the mark, but ali counters with a double right that rocks louis' head. ali follows up, but louis ties ali up and recovers. ali is on the defensive, throwing jabs, and a good left hook now and then. Louis concentrates on body punching to wear Muhammad down. Louis is finding the target more in this fight than the last one. Louis uppercuts ali and ali is hurt, however ali manages to tie louis up and survive the round: dundee is working ali over to get him fresh.

Round 5: Ali is back on his toes, but the bounce is not the same. Louis bullies him again, and ali is against the ropes. A quick one-two-three lands and ali is hurt. Louis hits a right to ali's jaw, and two left jabs to the chin. Louis with the old one-two! Louis is pouring it on in this round, and ali is defense less and he covers up against the ropes. ali jabs a bit, but louis blocks them and counters with a left hook to the body and a right cross to the chin. Louis is moving in fast landing terrific blows, but ali is still standing. Louis lands another right hand. He's landed more blows in this one round, than he has in any five rounds in the other fight. Ali cannot defend himself as the bell sounds!: Dundee is using an endswell to lower the swelling on Ali's jaw and smeling salts to revive him as well.

Round 6: Louis is moving in. ali is on his toes, but still not with the same speed as in the first round. Louis easily gets to him and gets ina tremendous flurry. a left hook sends ali reeling against the ropes, and Louis drives a left to the chin, a right to te stomach, a right to the head, another right to the head. And ali was going down, but he held on to the ropes as Louis moves in with a crushing right hand, and Ali is down! Ali is down! Ali is up at two. Louis moves a right to the head, and a left to the body sends ali down again, and Conn is watching carefully. A left jab to the face, a right to the body, a left to the face, a right to the chin, and ALi is down again! The count is up to 5... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and ali is up, but still wobbly and Referee Mark Conn stops it. The fight is over, on a technical knockout. Muhammad Ali is beaten in six rounds!

Michael Buffer: The winner by tko at 1:27 seconds of the sixth round, Joooooooeeeeee Looouiiiiissssssssssss!(the crowd is in bedlam)

Louis helps Ali to his corner, and consoles Dundee. Louis makes good in the rematch, as he always does. Let's go to the post fight press conferences.

Dempsey 1919
07-13-2006, 09:56 PM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How hard is it to knock this guy out?

Louis: Plenty hard. It's like trying to take a brick out of a wall.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: You fought a different fight this time, didn't you?

Louis: Yes, I fought more like a crowding fighter this time.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: What was your plan?

Louis: Well, Chappy told me to go on out and get him, so that's what I did, to go on out and get him.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: When did you feel you had him?

Louis: In the fourth round, when he was slower, I knew it was just a matter of time.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: Will you continue to use this style against ali?

Louis: If it would work everytime, then yeah.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: Did he give you any trouble at all, this time?

Louis: Yes, he still moved a lot in the beginning, and he tagged me a few times, but I kept going after him, and fortunately, I still came out the winner.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Is the confidence level higher now, Joe?

Louis: I would say so.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter8: What was your reaction to the book that Ali gave you?

Louis: I thought he was a bafoon!

(Laughter)

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter9: Will you change anything for the naxt match?

Louis: Maybe a couple of things, but not much.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter10: Do you feel you can handle going into Houston, Ali's terf?

Louis: I've been booed before, so I think I can handle it.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter11: Were you hurt at any time?

Louis: In the fourth, a little.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter12: Do you think that your performance has sent a message to Ali and his people?

Louis: I think so. He knows what he's really up against and he'll take me serious from now on.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter13: Does Ali's antics affect you in any way?

Louis: Did it look like it did tonight?

Reporter13: Not really.

Louis: Well, there's your answer.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter14: Do you feel your left hook helped you in this fight?

Louis: Yeah, well I tagged him with it a few times and it kind of worn him down, so I would say so.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter15: Was there any opponent you faced in you career that was harder than Ali?

Louis: Yeah, Rocky Marciano.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter16: Was Muhammad's jab still a problem for you?

Louis: Yes, but I was able to overcome it.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter17: Can you win four straight on this guy?

Louis: Can't say for sure, but I'll try.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter18: Do you think there is any way Ali can still beat you?

Louis: I think I've found a way to catch up to him, as long as I got fifteen rounds to work with.

Reporter19: What about Ali's right hand? Was it any trouble?

Louis: It wasn't too much trouble. It wasn't that hard, just sort of annoying everytime I walk into it.

Reporter20: So, have you adopted the style of a pressure fighter for the rest of this series?

Louis: If it'll work, then I suppose so.

Jack Blackburn: No more questions!

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-13-2006, 09:57 PM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: What is going through your mind right now?

Ali: I'm a little suprised, but I'll get over it.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: What was your undoing this time?

Ali: Maybe I felt a little too comfortable. I didn't use my jab as often as I should. Other that tat I don't have a clue. I guess he figured me out.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: What will you change in your style for the next fight?

Ali: I'm not sure. I'll have to work on that with Angelo a bit. I got a lot of work to do in order for me to beat this guy.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Did the left hook bother you much?

Ali: Yes it did. He got a few on me in the third and fourth round. When he got me on the ropes he got a few left hooks to my stomach, and that kind of slowed me down.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: Do you think going to the Astrodome will help you somewhat?

Ali: I hope so. I need all the help and encouragement I can get to beat this guy.

(Laughter)

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: Do you feel that you didn't train hard enough for this fight?

Ali: Well, maybe I could have been in better condition, but I still trained pretty hard. I'll just have to change some things and adjust my strategy.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Is that swollen jaw serious?

Ali: Not really. I'll just put some ice on it and let it heal, that's all.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter8: Do you think the mind games are working?

Ali: If it's not now, it will sooner or later, I hope.

Reporter9: Will you come back and win the next fight?

Ali: I'll sure try.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-13-2006, 09:57 PM
What will happen next, now that it's Even Steven? Tune in next time in the Astrodome in Houston, Texas to find out! Well, that will do it for today. Once again, the final score is louis-tko6. Butterfly1964 here, saying PEACE!!! :boxing: :boxing:

Kid Achilles
07-13-2006, 10:59 PM
Thank you, finally.

Dempsey 1919
07-14-2006, 12:00 AM
Thank you, finally.

What, that I posted game two, or that Louis won?

Easy-E
07-14-2006, 03:08 AM
Louis stopping Ali in 6... :nonono: :nonono:

Easy-E
07-14-2006, 03:12 AM
I think Butterfly just gets tired after doing 5 or so rounds and just decides that someone is going to get knocked out.

Easy-E
07-14-2006, 03:13 AM
Oh, and you have wayyy to much time on your hands, man.
Carry on!

Southpaw Stinger
07-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Louis stopping Ali in 6... :nonono: :nonono:

Indeed, terrible thing that.

RockyMarcianofan00
07-14-2006, 09:35 AM
Thank you, finally.
Your Joy will be short lived...


I wonder who's gunna win..Just we'll have to wait.....

RockyMarcianofan00
07-14-2006, 09:36 AM
I wonder who's gunna win..Just we'll have to wait.....

Yea I wonder when Ali's gunna win

:Thinkingo

Dempsey 1919
07-19-2006, 09:39 PM
Yea I wonder when Ali's gunna win

:Thinkingo

You don't know if he's gonna win. :rolleyes:

Southpaw Stinger
07-19-2006, 10:20 PM
You don't know if he's gonna win.

He better had win. I've got a lot of money on this!

Hard Boiled HK
07-19-2006, 10:39 PM
You don't know if he's gonna win. :rolleyes:

Don't lie. We know you're gonna make him the winner.

hellfire508
07-20-2006, 09:00 AM
Louis stopping Ali in 6... :nonono: :nonono:

That's what I was thinking. If he is gonna stop Ali, it would be late. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Brockton Lip
07-20-2006, 12:32 PM
This time, I do expect Ali to be the winner (if they actually fought, not because Butterfly says so), although it would be difficult. But Sonny Liston, not only beating Rock 4 out of 4 times, but knocking out Rocky in 1 round is absurd.

Southpaw Stinger
07-20-2006, 03:08 PM
This time, I do expect Ali to be the winner (if they actually fought, not because Butterfly says so), although it would be difficult. But Sonny Liston, not only beating Rock 4 out of 4 times, but knocking out Rocky in 1 round is absurd.

Agreed. I think Ali is too fast and too adaptable for Louis with too good a chin.
And Liston flattening Marciano in 1 like he did patterson is absurd.

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 05:48 PM
Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Playoff Boxing Finals! I'm butterfly1964, your ringside commentator.

(W) Muhammad Ali vs. (E) Joe Louis - Houston Astrodome in Houston, Texas for fight #3. (series tied at 1-1)

Will Ali's home-ring advantage be a factor here? Let's pick it up in the dome. :cool:

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 05:49 PM
Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to The Houston, Texas. There are many sights and sounds in this metropolis. Lots of skyscrapers and landmarks to go to. Yes, Houston has a lot to offer, including what is happening inside the Astrodome. Outside the dome there is a brightly lit sign that says, "Welcome to the Astrodome, the Eighth Wonder of the World", and in fact Houston does believe this. There are 129,003 fans waiting in anticipation for the event that is about to take place, a sellout crowd no doubt. Predident George W. Bush is in the audience! Also, Nelly, P. Diddy, Sheryl Crow, Jennifer Lopez, Nick Cannon, Tyra Banks, and many other members of the A-list are ringside.

Presenting,










"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals!










for the John L. Sullivan Trophy!










between










http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/images/Muhammad_Ali_Portrait.jpg
Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion










versus










http://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/images/louis_joe.jpg
Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion










We have seen in the previous fight how Joe Louis reacted to losing. Now we will have a chance to see how Ali reacts to a defeat. One of our ace reporters interviewed Ali accompanied by his long-time confidant, Drew "Bundini" Brown.

Reporter: How do you feel going into this fight?

Ali: I'ma whup that fool. He just got lucky last time. I'm ready for this one!

Reporter: What are you gonna do against him?

Ali: What I'm gonna do?(looks over at Bundini) He asks me what we gonna do! Tell him what we gonna do!

Brown: We gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee!

Ali and Brown: Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr!

Brown: Rumble, young man rumble!

Ali and Brown: Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr!

Ali: See? That's what we gonna do!

Reporter: Thank you, Muhammad.

Well, there you have it folks. Looks like he is ready. Here is the tale of the tape.

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 208¼
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 205½
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

The crowd cheers as Joe Louis enters the ring, wearing a scarlet robe with his name stiched in black lettering. He now comes in the ring and looks serious.

The crowd erupts in applause as Muhammad Ali bounces up and down through the aisle. Ali is attired with a black robe with his name stiched in white lettering. He is in the ring and warms up.

Here is our ring announcer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Playoff Boxing Finals! This is to see who is the greatest heavyweight of all-time! Once and for all, llllets get readyyy to rummmblllllllle! Fifteen rounds! Introducing, from Detroit, Michigan, wearing dark red trunks with black stripes, standing six feet two inches tall and weighing two hundred five and one half pounds, nicknamed "The Brown Bomber", The Eastern Conference Champion, Joe Louisss!(the crowd is applauding)Louisss!And his opponent, (the crowd goes wild) from right here in Houston, Texas, wearing black trunks with white stripes, standing six feet three inches tall, weighing two hundred eight and a quarter pounds, nicknamed, "The Greatest", The Western Conference Champion, your Muhammaaaaad Aaaaaliiiiiiii!(the crowd cheers with excitement)Aaaliiiiiiiiii!

Mark Conn: You know the rules of the Texas State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands and come out fighting.

Once again since we all know Ali's history in rematches, the odds are still at 1 to 1. Many people feel that Ali will come back and win this one.

Round 1: Ali comes out dancing and on his toes. Ali shoots the left jab peiodically and keeping away from louis, who has made himself lower to crouch and bully ali around the ring. Ali shoots a hard one two and circles the ring out of reach. Louis follows ali around landing a few body shots. Louis is trying to corner ali, and ali uses his superior reach to keep louis off of him. Ali has his hands high up near his face, probably out of respect for Louis' puncvhing power. He usually dangles them at his sides. Louis lands a few blows, but ali is not bothered, and he lands enough jabs and right hands to win the round: Angelo Dundee is giving ali's instructions, and so is Blackburn to joe.

Round 2: Louis is the pursuer still and jabs ali in the face. Ali counters with an overhand chopping right. Louis shoots a fast one-two that is short of the mark, and ali counters with a quick one two. ali jabs louis in the face and louis starts firing back jabs. ali throws a right hand, but louis blocks it and moves in with a left and right to the body, and ali ties him up. ali is on his toes trying to keep away from louis: Louis' eye is puffed a bit, and "Chappy" is applying ice to it.

Round 3: Ali keeps moving, on his toes, and his hands ready to conter Louis' left jab. Ali now changes his style and is croutching low, whilst moving back. Louis is baffled at this stance by Muhammad and he doesn't know what to do. Louis rushes him, but ali scores with the right hand from a wierd angle. Louis tries to answer back but he mises and ali ties him up. ali goes back into his wierd stance and is backing up. They both clinch and ali frees up his arms and tagges Louis face a few times with left and right while they are in close. Louis rushes ali again, but ali moves back and judges the correct distance: Blackburn is showing joe what he can do to cambat that wierd stance.

Round 4: Louis moves in cutting the ring off and ducks under a jab and fires a jolting uppercut that ali walks through. Ali is now out of his funny stance and is once again circling to the left with great speed and shooting lefts and rights. Louis gets in some head shots and ali keeps louis away with his reach. Louis does a good job of blocking some of ali's right hands, but most of them are still getting in: Blackburn is applying ice to Louis' eye.

Round 5: Louis uses his left hook more and pursuing ali relentlessly, while ali uses his jab and counters with a straight right when louis fires the left jab. Louis jabs ali, and ali jabs back. they now get into a jabbing battle, and louis gets a good combo in that stuns ali. louis moves in to finish, but ali ties him up. ali is still on his toes, but is lacking the speed he had in the fist round. louis is getting in some good jabs, and ali is up against the ropes as the bell rings: Louis face is well marked, but suprisingly ali's is not.

Round 6: Ali is flatfooted now, and concentrates on countering louis' left with his right, as Max Schmeling did. ali does an okay job with this, as he is able to slip the jab and counter with the right. ali gets in some good blows that rock louis in this round: Louis is a bit worn from swarming ali, so blackburn is working him over.

Round 7: Louis moves in and jabs ali, and muhammad counters with a right. Louis throws a left hook to the face that connects. Louis shoots hard left and rights to the body, and ali ties him up. ali is still flatfooted, looking to counter with his own right. Louis uses his left a lot in this round: Ali's face is a bit marked but it is barely visible.

Round 8: Ali is back on his toes and louis is stalking him. Joe throws a right hand that misses. Joe is not moving forward as fast as before. Joe is a little fatigue from chasing ali across the ring. This is not something he's used to doing. Ali boxes around louis in this one, peppering his face with jabs and counter rights: Louis looks real tired in his corner.

Round 9: Ali is on his toes circling and popping that jab. Louis' shots are a bit weaker, and ali knows this. ali sits on his punches now, feeling he an go for the knockout. ali gets in some hard vicious shots that rock louis. A left to the body and a right cross stun louis, and a left and right hook, followed bya left jab, a right cross, and two left uppercuts, worry joe. Joe is now trying to avoid the punches, but they are lightning fast and joe can't seem to get out of harm's way. joe fight's back with some body shots, but ali walkes through them and counters with a double right and louis is rubbery-legged. ali moves in to finish, but the bell rings: Blackburn is trying to revive joe, and ali is a bit tired, but ready as Dundee gives him instructions.

Round 10: Ali is still flatfooted and is just looking for the right time tothrow the leather. Ali shoots a left jab, followed by a right uppercut as he was moving back. louis throws a wild right hand that misses, and ali counters with a short, fast sharp right to the chin and louis is down! It's a flash knockdown, but it's a knockdown nontheless, and louis jumps up at the count of one. The referee is giving him the count as the crowd is on their feet, cheering ali! The fighters resume and ali is throwing a lot of punches and louis fights back with shots of his own, but two lefts and a big right send louis down again! Louis is up and 5 and takes the 8-count. Ali throws a left hook and a right and louis is down again! Louis is up at 7, but he is glassy-eyed, and Conn waves his hands, signaling the fight is over! Ali has won and takes the 2-1 series lead!

Michael Buffer: The winner by tko 2 minutes into the tenth round, Muhammaaaaad Aaaaaliiiiiiiii!

The crowd is very happy. Let's go to the post fight press conferences.

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 05:50 PM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: What was the punch that did it?

Ali: A right hand shook him, and from there I knew I had him.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: I noticed that you did more dancing, than the last time. Did that help you?

Ali: It helped me stay away from him, and then when he got tired, I was able to take advantage.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: I noticed you held your hands higher than usual. Why was that?

Ali: Basically to get in position to block his punches, and then counter with my own.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Did Louis bother you at any time?

Ali: Yes, in the fifth. He hurt me a little with a left hook and a right.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: What were you trying to do in round three?

Ali: I went low to confuse him, cause my trainer Angelo Dundee told me that Joe would be bothered by wierd stances and styles, so I mixed my stances up a little. I suppose that it might have worked. It was just something new I tried that I was practicing in sparring, that's all.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: I suppose you trained harder for this fight than the last one, right?

Ali: Without a doubt. I worked really hard to get this win.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Will you change your strategy for the next fight?

Ali: I don't think so. I think I've figured this guy out enough, already.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter8: I noticed you didn't do any psyching out to Louis. Were you just more serious, or did you just run out of tricks?

Ali: I never run out of gimmicks. You just wait and see!

Reporter9: Will you win the next two fights?

Ali: I'll try. I'm at home, so I have a pretty good chance.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 05:51 PM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: What did Ali do that troubled you so?

Louis: Well, his right hand was a bother, and he moved a lot. And he went low sort of awkward-like. It kind of puzled me.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: Did you fight a different fight today than in the last fight?

Louis: No, I did the same thing, but I guess he figured me out.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: What will you change for next time?

Louis: I don't know yet. Me and Chappy will ahve to work out something.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Did you feel you were over confident?

Louis: No, I took him seriously, but like I said, he must have figured me out.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: Are you still confident you could win the next game?

Louis: I think I can still find a way, yes.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter6: What do you feel you have to do, now?

Louis: I have to make sure I can play games back in Detroit, or else I'm doomed.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter7: Do you feel you could have used the left hook more in this fight?

Louis: I suppose so. But like I said before, he moved a lot, and I couldn't get my arms off.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 05:52 PM
What will happen in number four, will Louis tie it up, or will Ali force Joe back up against a wall? Tune in next time in Houston to find out! Well, that will do it for today. Once again, the final score is ali-tko10. Butterfly1964 here, saying goodday! :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
07-27-2006, 07:22 PM
Again, feel free to send over good k and points. :D

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:19 AM
Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Playoff Boxing Finals! I'm butterfly1964, your ringside commentator.

(W) Muhammad Ali vs. (E) Joe Louis - Houston Astrodome in Houston, Texas for fight #4. (ali leads 2-1)

Who will come out on top tonight? Let's go over to Houston. :cool:

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:19 AM
Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to Houston's Astrodome.

Presenting,










"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals!










for the John L. Sullivan Trophy!










between










http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/images/Muhammad_Ali_Portrait.jpg
Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion










versus










http://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/images/louis_joe.jpg
Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion










Ali has a one game lead in the series. How will Louis respond? Both men, especially Louis trained hard for this fourth contest. The betting odds on this fight is still 1:1, because many expect Louis to bounce back as he always does. A lot of people expect Louis and Ali to split one game a piece for every two, because we all know how good they are in rematches, so it's still anyone's game. Let's go to the press conference.

Ali: Slow Louis, I'm gonna whup you. You won't never beat me again. You'll be swinging at nothin' all night.

Louis: I'm gonna expose you for the loud mouth comical joke that you are, you'll see.

Ali: And I'm gonna expose your feet being stuck in the mud, fool.

Looks like the love is not lost between them yet, haha. Let's take a look at the tale of the tape.

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 209
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 205
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

The crowd cheers as Joe Louis enters the ring, wearing a gray robe with his name stiched in black lettering. He now comes in the ring and looks serious.

The crowd erupts in applause as Muhammad Ali bounces up and down through the aisle. Ali is attired with a white robe with his name stiched in black lettering. He is in the ring and warms up.

Here is our ring announcer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Playoff Boxing Finals! Llllets get readyyy to rummmblllllllle! Fifteen rounds! Introducing, from Detroit, Michigan, wearing gray trunks with black stripes, standing six feet two inches tall and weighing two hundred five pounds, nicknamed "The Brown Bomber", The Eastern Conference Champion, Joe Louisss!(the crowd is applauding)Louisss! And his opponent, (the crowd goes wild) from right here in Houston, Texas, wearing white trunks with black stripes, standing six feet three inches tall, weighing two hundred nine pounds, nicknamed, "The Greatest", The Western Conference Champion, your Muhammaaaaad Aaaaaliiiiiiii!(the crowd cheers with excitement)Aaaliiiiiiiiii!

Mark Conn: You know the rules of the Texas State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands and come out fighting.

Ali is on his toes in his corner, and Louis is still.

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:20 AM
Round 1: Ali comes out and moves at a furious pace. As in every fight he moves unordinarily fast in the first round; part of the reason is because naturally, he's a little nervous as anyone would be before a fight of this magnitude. So, it has a combined effect of working the edge off, and while Muhammad is moving around with that blinding speed, nobody can hit him. Ali jabs and moves and louis just stalks his prey. Louis fires a quick one-two that's short of the mark, and ali uses his jab a lot and moves to keep away from joe: Dundee and Blackburn is giving both men instructions.

Round 2: Ali keeps moving, on his toes, and his hands ready to conter Louis' left jab. Ali is throwing the right hand well, and louis scores with th left hook from time to time. Ali does the shuffle and then a left hook and a right cross. The crowd is entertained! Louis comes back with an overhand right which puts ali in his place. Both men score well in this round: Blackburn is rubbing joe down.

Round 3: Louis moves in cutting the ring off and ducks under a jab and fires a jolting uppercut that ali walks through. Louis is now shooting lefts and rights that score with consistent accuracy. Louis gets in some head shots and ali keeps louis away with his reach. Louis does a good job of blocking ali's right hands, and is scoring well with his hooks: Blackburn is applying ice to Louis' eye.

Round 4: Louis ducks under Ali's jab frequently to land body shots and snap ali's chin. Louis is getting in better, using good tactics that Blackburn gave him during the rest period. Louis lands the jab a bit more, and times his right hand just right. Louis also uses the left hook, which is Ali's Achilles heel. It's all louis as he corners ali and rips the body periodically to wear down his opponent: Dundee is working ali over and applying ice to his eye as well. Blackburn is applying more ice and telling joe to keep waiting for ali to throw a punch and react.

Round 5: Ali is flatfooted, and one-two's louis. Louis fires a jab that is short of the mark, but ali counters with a double right that rocks louis' head. ali follows up, but louis ties ali up and recovers. ali is on the defensive, throwing jabs, and a good left hook now and then. Louis concentrates on body punching to wear Muhammad down. Louis uppercuts ali and ali is hurt, however ali manages to tie louis up and survive the round: dundee is working ali over to get him fresh.

Round 6: Ali is still on his toes and louis is moving at a faster pace. louis fires a jab that connects, and ali tries for an uppercut that misses, and louis counters with a left hook and another right. Louis is dominating right now and seemingly wearing ali down. ALi finds louis with jabs and a few lead rights, but louis still wins the round: Dundee is again working ali over, while Chappy applies ice to louis' puffed up eye.

Round 7: Louis is moving in and drives ali to the ropes and lands his crushing blows. ali covers up and after a while pushes louis off. ali is flatfooted now and is a bit tired and worn out, but he presses on. Muhammad lands some good punches near the end of this round: Dundee is working ali over and applying ice to his eye.

Round 8: Ali is moving again and is firing blistering combinations. Louis is not bothered much but hurts ali with a left hook to the liver. the crowd's mouths are open as louis has ali against the ropes. louis measureswith his left and throws a big right and then follows up with left and right hooks and ali is down! Ali is up at the count of three and takes the mandatory eight count. ali covers up and louis pounds ali until the round ends: Dundee is putting ice down ali's pants smelling salts to revive ali. Louis looks poised and ready to finish ali off.

Round 9: Louis smells blood and stalks ali. Louis is landing good hard blows, but ali fights back with a good flurry that stuns joe. Ali now fires big shots that rock louis. Now both men get into a slugfest. Then they clinch, and ali pushes him off. ali then lands a jab and then a speedy right hand that jarres louis again, and this holds joe off so ali lasts the round: Blackburn is seeking to revive louis from that exchange.

Round 10: Ali is moving again and has gotten what we call a second -win. Ali fires some good shots that keep louis of of him. Louis stalks ali, but he is unreachable at thais point. ali executed his game plan well this tiem as he uses a trucklload of jabs and his right hands are effective once again. louis lands some body blows, but it's all Ali: Dundee is giving ali instructins, while he is working on his eye.

Round 11: Louis is moving in on ali, but ali has fully recovered and is doing well with his flurries. Ali stuns louis with a left hook, and he moves in to finish, but louisfires back with body blows that make ali back off. Ali continues to land shots from all over, body, head and he uses jis feet as well. Louis lands some good right ahnds, but ali lands much more blows: Blackburn is working on that eye of Louis'.

Round 12: Ali is back on his toes and louis is stalking him. Joe throws a right hand that misses. Joe is not moving forward as fast as before. Joe is a little fatigue from chasing ali across the ring. This is not something he's used to doing. Ali boxes around louis in this one, peppering his face with jabs and counter rights: Louis looks real tired in his corner.

Round 13: Ali is on his toes circling and popping that jab. Louis' shots are a bit weaker, and ali knows this. ali sits on his punches now, feeling he an go for the knockout. ali gets in some hard vicious shots that rock louis. A left to the body and a right cross stun louis, and a left and right hook, followed by a left jab, a right cross, and two left uppercuts, worry joe. Joe is now trying to avoid the punches, but they are lightning fast and joe can't seem to get out of harm's way. joe fight's back with some body shots, but ali walkes through them and counters with a double right and louis is rubbery-legged. ali moves in to finish, but the bell rings: Blackburn is trying to revive joe, and ali is a bit tired, but ready as Dundee gives him instructions.

Round 14: Louis fights back and tries to make a fight of it, and he is in the thick of it for a while, but not for long, as ali's reach and his dancing feet dictate the action right in ring center. ali now goes flatfooted, partly to slow the action down, and partly out of fatigue. louis lands three successive left jabs, but ali counters with a double right. ali keeps this up until the round ends: Both dundee and Black burn are giving their fighters the fight definging instructions.

Round 15: Both men go in close and louis pounds the body, while ali head hunts furiously to the head with lightning-fast flurries. Louis stuns ali with a left hook, but ali holds on to joe and recovers. ali jabs and moves and is throwing the right ahnd well. ali does his famous shuffle and unleashes lefts and right leads. Louis uppercuts ali and snaps mauhammad head up. ali rocks louis with a vicious fluury. Both men fight at a furious pace. ALi throws a lot of jabs, most of them connecting. Louis lands an overhand right juat as the bell rings!

Ali was down in the eighth round, and Both men's eyes were puffed up. Here's Buffer with the decision.

Michael Buffer: Judge Artie Aidala scores it, 8-6-1 for Ali! (The crowd cheers) Judge Tony Castellani scores it 9-6 for Ali! (The crowd celebrates) Referee Mark Conn scores it 8-7 for Ali, the winner by unanimous decision, Muhammaaaaad Aaaaaliiiiiiiii! (The crowd is very happy.)

Let's go to the post fight press conferences.

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:21 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How did you manage to turn it around after being floored?

Ali: Well, Dundee applyed the smelling salts and luckily I sucked it up and went on to victory.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: Did you feel you got the decision in the fight before it was announced?

Ali: I wasn't sure. I was floored and I gave away the middle rounds. Let's say I was doubtful.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: Did you use the right hand enough in this fight in your opinion?

Ali: I would say so. I countered henever I could and that was part of the reason why I won.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Did you think this fight ould go the distance?

Ali: I knew it could eventually. I just wasn't concentrating on that.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: Did you try for a knockout?

Ali: Yes, in the later rounds, but he witstood it, and it didn't happen.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: Were you in good condition for thi fight?

Ali: Oh, yes, I did a lot of roadwork, 8 miles every day. I sparred alot and other things as well.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Will you change your strategy for the next fight?

Ali: I don't figure on that anymore. My gameplan is good enough now.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter8: So, you've fine-tuned your strategy at this point in time?

Ali: I think so. And judging from the fight, so did Slow Louis.

(Laughter)

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter9: Can you finish him off nd win the John L. Sullivan trophy?

Ali: I think I could. If I'm at home, I got a pretty good shot.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter10: Do you think Louis could repond with something new?

Ali: Maybe. I'll just stay in shape and be ready for it.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter11: How bad is your eye?

Ali: Not too bad. Some ice will take care of it.

Reporter12: If you lose game 5, How confident are you that you can beat Louis on his terf?

Ali: I did it before, I can do it again.

Reporter13: Are you the greatest?

Ali: You can fight out in the next fight!

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:21 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How did you let ALi get away from you in the eighth?

Louis: He covered up good and blocked the punches, nd I got a little tired.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: I noticed you went back to your own strategy for the most part.

Louis: Well, that's what I'm used t anyway.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: How will you survive elimination?

Louis: I guess I have to keep going after him.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Are you still confident?

Louis: Yes, there is a way to beat him, I've done it before.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: You survives elimination from Liston. Is this your inspiration?

Louis: It's part of it.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: Are the mind games taking it's toll?

Louis: It's not that, he just good and hard to beat.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter7: Do you feel you could have used the left hook more in this fight?

Louis: I used it enough, but he moved a lot, it was hard to tag him with it.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter8: How is your eye?

Louis: It's okay. I'll just rest for a couple of days cause it's kind of hard to see right now.

Reporter9: Will you win?

Louis: I'll find a way, I promise.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
08-11-2006, 05:22 AM
What will happen in number five, will Louis force a game six, or will Ali will it all? Louis promises a win; can he make it happen? Find out next time in Houston to find out! Well, that will do it for today. Once again, the final score is ali-ud15. Butterfly1964 here, saying goodday! :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:30 AM
Good evening, everyone and thank you for joining us for the Playoff Boxing Finals. On behalf of Butterfly productions, I'm butterfly1964 your blow-by-blow announcer!

(W) Muhammad Ali vs. (E) Joe Louis - Houston Astrodome in Houston, Texas for fight #5. (ali leads 3-1)

This is an elimination game. Will there be eliminating tonight? :(

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:33 AM
Hello, citizens of BoxingScene, and welcome to The Houston's Astrodome.

Presenting,










"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Finals!










for the John L. Sullivan Trophy!










between










http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/images/Muhammad_Ali_Portrait.jpg
Muhammad Ali
Western Conference Champion










versus










http://faculty.washington.edu/qtaylor/images/louis_joe.jpg
Joe Louis
Eastern Conference Champion










There are a lot of questions to be answered about Joe Louis. How much does he have left in the tank? These losses must have taken it's toll on him psychologically. Louis definetely has his back against the wall. However, against Sonny Liston, he responded well after being down 3 games to one and came back to win the entire series, and the same thing can happen tonight. How will Ali prepare for any strategies Louis and the Pompton Lakes camp may have up their sleeves? How will this fight go? I imagine Muhammad will fight a conservative fight tonight to ensure a victory. He certainly has the tools and the know how to keep Louis away from him. The 24 foot ring will be Ali's friend in this whole thing. Will this be the end for Joe Louis Barrow tonight, or will it be just the beginning? I interviewed the Brown Bomber in a Butterfly Productions exclusive!

Butterfly1964: Are you nervous?

Joe Louis: Yes, I am. But I am confident about what me and Chappy worked on during training.

Butterfly: Are you going to be more patient, or are you going right after him?

Louis: I have to go after him, but I can't make stupid mistakes, so I have to be a little patient.

Butterfly: Anything else you want to say before I go?

Louis: I will win this fight tonight, this is a guarantee. Tonight, my arm will be raised in victory.

Louis is a very determined man, and here is the tale of the tape for these gladiators.

Muhammad Ali

age: 25
height: 6'-3"
weight: 212
reach: 83"
record: 29-0-0 (23ko)

Joe Louis

age: 28
height: 6'-2"
weight: 206
reach: 76"
record: 56-1-0 (50ko)

The crowd cheers as Joe Louis enters the ring, many want him to win. Louis is wearing a black robe with his name stiched in gray lettering. He now comes in the ring and has his head down.

The crowd is joyous now that Muhammad Ali enters in view. He bounces down the $50 seats, then the $100 seats, then the $250, $500 and $1,000 seats, until he gets tothe $2,000 seats and into the ring. Ali is wearing a white robe with his name stiched in red lettering. He is in the ring and warms up. by shadowboxing, and doing his little shufle, the famous "Muhammad Ali Shuffle", which befuddles everyone!

Here is our ring announcer, Michael Buffer!

Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Playoff Boxing Finals! Llllets get readyyy to rummmblllllllle! Fifteen rounds! Introducing, from Detroit, Michigan, wearing black trunks with gray stripes, standing six feet two inches tall and weighing two hundred six pounds, nicknamed "The Brown Bomber", The Eastern Conference Champion, Joe Louisss!(the crowd is applauding) Louisss! And his opponent, (the crowd goes wild) from right here in Houston, Texas, wearing white trunks with red stripes, standing six feet three inches tall, weighing two hundred twelve pounds, nicknamed, "The Greatest", The Western Conference Champion, your Muhammaaaaad Aaaaaliiiiiiii!(the crowd cheers with excitement)Aaaliiiiiiiiii!

Mark Conn: You know the rules of the Texas State Athletic Boxing Commision. Protect yourself at all times, and break when I tell you to break. Any questions? Shake hands and come out fighting.

Ali is on his toes in his corner, and Louis is still. Ali is now the 2:1 favorite to win the tournament.

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:33 AM
Round 1: Both men come out, feeling each other out. Ali jabs louis and moves. Louis jabs and then comes forward. Ali uses the jab a lot, and counters well with the right. Louisd throws a one-two that's short of the mark, and ali leans back on the punch and moves laterally to the right. Ali then throws a jab, then left hook. Louis gets shots to the body and they both clinch. ali pushes Joe away. louis lands a good combination at the bell: Dundee and Blackburn is giving both men instructions.

Round 2: Louis is shuffling his feet to get close and lands a one-two on ali's temple. Ali just moves. Ali is now landing a steady stream of jabs. Joe presses on and uses his jabv a little. Ali lands a hard right hand and then a left uppercut and an overhand right and simultaneously getting out of harm's way. Ali lands good blows in this round: Dundee is giving ali instructions and working ali over.

Round 3: Louis makes an attempt to cut the ring off, nd ali goes into his twinkletoes routine and dances away from any punishment. ali moves and tghrows a jab and then a right that worries joe. Joe fires back with a good uppercut, but ali is not bothered: Blackburn is applying ice to Louis' eye.

Round 4: Ali comes out dancing once again, and lands some more jabs, and the occasional right hand. Louis is trying to duck under it, but most of the jabs are getting in, simply because they are two fast, and ali's accuracy is tremendous. Louis tries for a left hook, but ali avoids it. Louis is trying to use the jab and right hand as a trick to make ali run into his left hook. But ali fights a smart fight and is ready for any form of lunge or attack from Louis. Ali is on the back foot hitting louis with a lot of jabs. Ali misses the right hand at the bell, and louis scores with a left hook after the bell: Blackburn is again trying to keep that eye under control.

Round 5: Ali now goes flatfooted, but he still is fast as ever. Louis lands a good combination, the best set of punches he has landed so far. ali lands the jab well, and louis ducks under one to uppercut him. ali is hurt a little and louis goes after ali and lands a good one-two as ali is against the ropes. Louis concentrates on body punching and then ali pushes Louis off and goes on his toes again, landing some good jabs. Louis lands some lefts of his own, and some good right hands to wear Muhammad down. Ali triews to recover and lands a fast flurry to stop louis in his tracks. Ali is flatfooted again and blocks a few of joe's punches at the bell: dundee is working ali over to get him fresh. Chappy is still concerned about that eye.

Round 6: Ali is still flatfooted and is concentrating on his right hand. Louis is jabbing as well, but he is short of the mark a lot of the time. Louis' right hand gets in a couple of times, but ali is not hurt. Louis is hurt by a quick flurry and ali moves in with a good one-two. Louis recovers and scores with a solid left hook. Ali lands well with his jab as the round ends: Dundee is again working ali over, while Chappy applies ice to louis' puffed up eye.

Round 7: Louis is fighting at a faster pace, but is catching a lot of leather from Muhammad. Muhammad is flatfooted and is now hitting the slower joe at will. Ali moves in and out with ease, and Louis now has a cut eye. ali is working on that eye. Ali lands some right hands that staggers Louis. ali continues to pour it on as Louis is getting tired. Louis slips, and the referee wipes louis' gloves and they continue. Ali shuffles and lands a good one-two-three and louis is reeling against the ropes. Ali tries to finish, but the bell sounds!: Blackburn is tring furiously to keep that eye under control.

Round 8: Ali is moving at a faster pace and scoring heavily on his weary opponent. Ali methodically lands many jabs and short combinations. Joe lands a few punches, but they have absolutely no effect. Ali stuns louis again with a left hook, and ali continues to jab and move. Louis tries to land one big punch, but at this point Ali is to fast for Louis. Louis is game, but ali still dominates the round: Dundee is giving Muhammad's instructions, while Blackburn is tring to revive Louis.

Round 9: Ali is moving and jabbing. Louis hits ali about twice with some light punches, and ali counters with the left. Louis looks tired and wasted, blood dripping from his eye. Ali stuns joe again with a right hand. Muhammad then circles the ring, and then feints, and moves in double pumping to throw louis off and then when joe is in a corner, unleashes a lightning fast flurry of hooks and then straight lefts and rights ala Brian London and Louis goes down! Ali goes to a neutral corner and referee Mark Conn starts the count. As Conn is counting, Ali raises his arms and shuffles his feet out into the center of the ring, like he did when he won the title against Sonny Liston. The count is 7, 8, 9...louis tries to get up, but is too late...10! The crowd goes wild. That's it! The fight is stopped! Muhammad Ali wins by a dramatic ninth round knockout! Ali is celebrating by jumping around the ring. He walks over to console louis as louis leaves the ring in shame. Muhammad Ali wins in five games and wins the entire tournament!!

Michael Buffer: The winner by a knockout in the ninth round and the Playoff Boxing Champion, Mmmmuuuuuuhaaaammmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllliiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

I'm going into ring center.

Butterfly1964: Congradulations, Muhammad. How do you feel?

Ali: Oh, I feel great. I'm so happy... whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Butterfly: What are you gonna do next?

Ali: I'm going to Disney World!!!

Wow what a scene. I can hardly hear myself think it's so loud! What a finish to a great tournament. I guess now Muhammad Ali can call himself "The Greatest". He's certainly proved it tonight.

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:34 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: Are you disappointed?

Louis: Yes, I tried, but he was too good, he was too fast.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: When did you feel the fight was slipping away from you?

Louis: Around the fifth and sixth. I tried to teg him, but I couldn't.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: Did you feel you let Detroit down.

Louis: Yes, but there is nothing I can do about it now.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Do you feel you could ahve done something different?

Louis: No, I did everything in my power and it still didn't work. He is good and that's all I can say.

Reporter5: Any last words before we let you go?

Louis: Well, it's been fun, and I am glad I got this far, and I wish Ali the best.

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:35 AM
Michael Buffer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the Presentation of the John L. Sullivan Trophy! On behalf of the WBC, WBA, IBC, IBA, IBO, WBO, and all other boxing commissions, congradulations, Muhammad Ali!!!

(Ali holds the trophy)

Ali: Wow, I'm so cought up in the moment right now. I'm just happy it's over. The training was hard and I'm just exhausted right now. But I would not have won if it weren't for my guy Angelo Dundee. Angelo?

(Dundee comes on stage)

Angelo Dundee: We all are proud of our guy. It was hard work, but this is what you live for, the fight of the moment, and I'm just glad that I could ride on his coat tails the whole time. Muhammad is simply the greatest.

(Cheers from the crowd)

Ali: I just like to say one thing, Iiiii Aaaam Theee Greatessst!

(very loud cheers)

Wow, that was classic. Lets go over to Ali's press-conference.

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:35 AM
(Loud Shouting)
Reporter1: How do you feel now that it's all over?

Ali: Glad!

(laughs)

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter2: What did it for you in the fight?

Ali: Well, my jabs got through, and I got him with a lot of right hands.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter3: Is he your toughest fighter in the whole tournament?

Ali: I would say so. He was the fastest, and he ws really tricky.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter4: Were you hurt at any time?

Ali: Yeah, in the fifth. he really tricked me into those ropes and landed some shots that shook me a little.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter5: Is Louis easy to tag?

Ali: He's not real easy, cause he blocks a lot of them, but he's not real hard either.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter6: What was your physical condition for this fight?

Ali: Excellent, as usual. I wasn't taking no chances with this guy.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter7: Do you feel he tried something different in this fight?

Ali: I don' think he's tried anything I haven't seen him do before.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter8: Do you think Louis could ahve beatenn Dempsey, your last opponent?

Ali: Definetely. Joe Louis is the greatest fighter of all times... next to me.

(Laughter)

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter9: Are you anxious to got back to Louisville?

Ali: I believe I'll go there in a short while. I'm anxious to meet up with my high school buddies.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter10: Those mind games you were playing on Joe, was that just an act, or was there something serious?

Ali: Just to gain a psychological advantage. I never meant nothing by it.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter11: Are you suprised that you are unmarked?

Ali: Not really. I avoided most of those punches and I did a good job of neutralizing his power.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter12: If you did lose this game, then how do you think you would have done on Louis' terf?

Ali: It would have been a challenge, but I can't say for sure.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter13: I saw your wife, Belinda. She looked really happy. She must have been really into this fight, too huh?

Ali: Well, she's always concerned about me. I guess she was just glad that it's over.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter14: How swollen is your hand?

Ali: Just a little.

(Loud Shouting)
Reporter15: Um, are you gonna wrap that hand or what?

Ali: Yeah, this happens after all my fights, no big deal.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter16: Is Joe Louis the toughest fighter you ever fought?

Ali: No, Joe Frazier still rules that category.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter17: Anything you want to say to Joe Louis?

Ali: Joe it was fun, and I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. It was just to build the fight up.

(Soft Bickering)
Reporter18: Do you think you have silenced the critics?

Ali: I think I have. but there will still be adversaries in this game.

Reporter19: Are you "Thee Greatest"?

Ali: You better believe it!

Reporter20: After Disney Land, where are you headed next?

Ali: Home, to get some rest!

(laughter)

Dundee: No more questions!

(The reporters leave)

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:36 AM
I had fun this summer doing this. I hope you had fun reading the fights. The final score is ali-ko9.

http://www.danielpipes.org/pics/large/art_3161_1.jpg
Muhammad Ali
"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Champion

Verstyle
08-18-2006, 01:39 AM
I had fun this summer doing this. I hope you had fun reading the fights. The final score is ali-ko9.

http://www.danielpipes.org/pics/large/art_3161_1.jpg
Muhammad Ali
"NBA Playoffs + Boxing =" Champion


wow i wouldnt have never guessed ali(sarcastic) :rolleyes:

Dempsey 1919
08-18-2006, 01:43 AM
In the beginning of this tournament, it started out with...

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Jack Johnson
4. George Foreman
5. Lennox Lewis
6. Max Schmeling
7. Max Baer
8. James Jeffries

EAST

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Larry Holmes
4. Joe Frazier
5. Mike Tyson
6. Sonny Liston
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Ezzard Charles

Then there was...

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Jack Dempsey
3. Jack Johnson
4. George Foreman

EAST

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
5. Mike Tyson
6. Sonny Liston

These numbers dwindled to...

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Jack Dempsey

EAST

1. Joe Louis - Detroit, MI
6. Sonny Liston - Philadelphia, PA

And then...

WEST

1. Muhammad Ali

EAST

1. Joe Louis

And finally...

1. Muhammad Ali!

Thank you all for posting.

This thread is now officially closed.





















Peace!!! :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

Dempsey 1919
03-03-2007, 02:44 PM
bump......

Yaman
03-03-2007, 03:00 PM
Good memory of this thread is the fact that it was in the summer.

jazz123
05-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Good memory of this thread is the fact that it was in the summer. Great thread, I enjoyed reading the ones I did.

titoi
05-23-2007, 10:38 PM
This thread did an excellent job of simulating the real boxing world!























(It was fixed)

Dempsey 1919
05-24-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm glad you all enjoyed it.:boxing:

paulfinch
06-22-2007, 03:39 PM
One of the weirdest and coolest things I've seen in a while, good job, dude!

Dempsey 1919
06-22-2007, 04:35 PM
One of the weirdest and coolest things I've seen in a while, good job, dude!

Thanks, a lot.:boxing:

Pittsburgh159
11-10-2007, 06:56 PM
Whats up Pittsburgh? I can not believe that the only place in the state of PA showing tonights fight is Phili.

Any suggestions? Home to watch tonights fight! Where do all of Pittsburgh boxing fans hang?

Peace out