Ive been always intrigued by this, and i dnt know if i missed this in the fantasy fights they do on the discovery channel...but will there be a slightest possibility that a full grown lion and a full grown tiger will meet to engaged in a deathmatch? if ever who would you think will win and why.

The Tiger. Much bigger, much heavyer, much stronger. Simple as that.

good point!!!tnx.However another question thats been bugging me is how come they never get to meet in actual combat? i know the reason is that geographically they can never be together or live together in the same place(aside from the zoo of course...lols!!!!)am I correct?

good point!!!tnx.However another question thats been bugging me is how come they never get to meet in actual combat? i know the reason is that geographically they can never be together or live together in the same place(aside from the zoo of course...lols!!!!)am I correct?

This is a question which has intrigued me as well I might add.
Actually, I've seen a clip where a lion and tiger fight eachother. They're both circus-animals though and in that one, the lion is much much bigger than the tiger and it was still a close fight.
You are right, lions and tigers don't cross paths seeing as they don't share the same territorium.
But there are some things to take into consideration. Although tigers (depending on species ofcourse) are bigger than lions, fact is - the lion is the larger agressor. The lion is also used to killing larger preys. It would be a close call, but I hold the tiger as the winner. By tko :)

Siberian Tiger weighs about 360kg
Average Lion weighs about 170Kg

Not a fair fight.

Edit: Tyson would knock 'em both out. Lol :D
Edit again: Watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1372882387110365632&q=tiger

Tnx BRO. the clip was awesome...it satisfied my appetite for curiosity..lols. Good karam to you bro:)

karma to you

The old phrase "Eye of the Tiger" sums it up well!

lions actually win 7 out of ten encounter with tigers

a siberian tiger beats a lion though

A lion usually has the support of a pride.

A lion usually has the support of a pride.

even on 1 on 1 though the lion comes out on top more times
tigers may be bigger but lions are more agressive and better fighters

look at this a grizzly bear shitting it from mountain lion

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lions do win most times i seen a program on discovery channel about it
of course it was a male african lion against a male indian tiger

Interesting. Looks like Apollo Creed got it wrong. Should have been eye of the lion!

even on 1 on 1 though the lion comes out on top more times
tigers may be bigger but lions are more agressive and better fighters

look at this a grizzly bear shitting it from mountain lion

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is this clip for real

http://videos.caught-on-video.com/search/vs/2/F80040C4-2097-43CE-9050-0D8A6FAF9D9A.htm

Old footage, but still a ****in cool (cruel?) fight.

tnx Oasis nice clip BRo:)

Lions definately get the best of tigers, exception being the siberian which are nearly extinct anyway. Lions have bigger front quarters then the african/indian counterparts and their jaws produce more pressure.

tigers are slightly bigger than lions but what is the prime target for a predatory animal when it is trying to kill? the throat!! now take a good look around a male lions throat

the lion kicks ass

even on 1 on 1 though the lion comes out on top more times
tigers may be bigger but lions are more agressive and better fighters

look at this a grizzly bear shitting it from mountain lion

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well the moutain lion here was defending her cubs the bear must have simply thought it pointless to get scratched up just to eat a tiny cub esppecially when he has a fat ass anyway

even on 1 on 1 though the lion comes out on top more times
tigers may be bigger but lions are more agressive and better fighters

look at this a grizzly bear shitting it from mountain lion

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Grizzly bears aren't fighting animals though...

What about a Silverback Male Guerilla Vs. a Lion or anything for that matter...talk about evil intentions from a Guerilla...

well the moutain lion here was defending her cubs the bear must have simply thought it pointless to get scratched up just to eat a tiny cub esppecially when he has a fat ass anyway

i agree it was just an example to show how agressive lions of any kind are and how they wont back down

even on 1 on 1 though the lion comes out on top more times
tigers may be bigger but lions are more agressive and better fighters

look at this a grizzly bear shitting it from mountain lion

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Dude that's a Cougar lol, not a lion.. funny clip though.

Like I said, bears suck at fighting...

This is a question which has intrigued me as well I might add.
Actually, I've seen a clip where a lion and tiger fight eachother. They're both circus-animals though and in that one, the lion is much much bigger than the tiger and it was still a close fight.
You are right, lions and tigers don't cross paths seeing as they don't share the same territorium.
But there are some things to take into consideration. Although tigers (depending on species ofcourse) are bigger than lions, fact is - the lion is the larger agressor. The lion is also used to killing larger preys. It would be a close call, but I hold the tiger as the winner. By tko :)

Siberian Tiger weighs about 360kg
Average Lion weighs about 170Kg

Not a fair fight.

Edit: Tyson would knock 'em both out. Lol :D
Edit again: Watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1372882387110365632&q=tiger


lions are 200-250kg tigers are 250-300kg so your right thatthetiger useally would win, however your wrong thatthey would never face each other since there are bothlions and tigersin some parts off india

Cougar = mountain lion.

Not that they are actual lions but both terms are considered appropriate.

Do you mean they're classed as lions of the mountains, or are they actually related to lions?

moutain lion...puma, or cougar whatever ppl call them...that clip of the bear getting scratched up n stuff is funny, the bear didnt even try n defend itself, u know if it would of that cougar puma moutain cat would b smashed up, although cougars have the highest percentage kill ratio compared to any other predator, it couldnt handle a bears crazy claws or jaws!! but neway back to topic, a tiger would most likely win in a real time fight, just depends on which kind of tiger ur talking about, but its better to make love not war so liger FTW!!

For le win.

Tigers have the size advantage but male lions actually fight one another (and therefore only the best fighters can mate and pass on their genes) while tigers are mostly solitary and capture their prey through stealth. Lions are constantly tangling with hyenas, honey badgers (very tough and insanely strong for their size) and those nasty ass vultures that I hear are very mean and have sharp beaks.

Male lions also have the mane which is a surprisingly effective defense because it protects and hides the throat.

It's hard to say for sure because of the tiger's awesome strength but I think I'll go with the smaller but better warrior, the lion.

Tigers have the size advantage but male lions actually fight one another (and therefore only the best fighters can mate and pass on their genes) while tigers are mostly solitary and capture their prey through stealth. Lions are constantly tangling with hyenas, honey badgers (very tough and insanely strong for their size) and those nasty ass vultures that I hear are very mean and have sharp beaks.

Male lions also have the mane which is a surprisingly effective defense because it protects and hides the throat.

It's hard to say for sure because of the tiger's awesome strength but I think I'll go with the smaller but better warrior, the lion.

They may weigh less, but you'd be surprised.. I think the only tiger that a Male lion can't match up to in size is the Siberian, and its co-species, same size but not white, can't remember the name.
Other than that the lions body mass is pretty much equal to a tigers.

Shanus to answer your question: no, cougars/mountain lions/whatever are types of pumas and aren't real lions at all but "mountain lion" is considered an acceptable name for them.

i agree it was just an example to show how agressive lions of any kind are and how they wont back down

only because she had cubs, if the bear also had cubs it would have went very differently

"cat fight" lol

i think that the bear would win if it were more agressive
one good swipe with its whole weight behind it would knock the lion down and then the bear would kill it

"cat fight" lol

i think that the bear would win if it were more agressive
one good swipe with its whole weight behind it would knock the lion down and then the bear would kill it

form an adult male grizzly and the lion would be dead instantly

I heard that a Grizzly smacked a horse in the head and ripped it off!!!

What about a guerilla? How do you guys think a pissed off Male, Silverback guerilla would fare against a Lion, Tiger, and bear?

A siberian Tiger is alot bigger than any lion.Then the tiger wins every time.And you can't use that a mountain lion stale mate a bear to prove your point.I seen a show were a warthog made lion run away when the lion tried to attack its offspring.

And why do so many people still come to this forum bullshitting about how a ****ing 180 pound man like Marciano is the best or second best heavyweight of all time when he isn't a heavyweight and couldn't even beat a guy like James Toney...If Marciano is a top 1,000 all time heavyweight then God fears my pee pee

tiger would kick the lions ass

It's been recorded in Roman history that most of the time, lions would kill the tigers 9 out of 10 times. However, the Romans were using the most vicious of all lions : The Barbary Lion. (black mane that goes all the way down to it stomach area)

I think it even beat the most vicious of tigers the Romans could find : the Caspian Tiger.

Siberian Tiger (the largest cat in the world) has little to no fighting experience with other predators like lions do. Lions have to constantly fight off other male rivals from his pride, hence why they fight better than tigers because of their natural predisposition to fighting other predators.

Sorry, I like tigers better....but the truth is, lions just have the advantage of power and protection.

History and common sense all point to the lion winning. Great, maybe now we can end this thread.

Oh and LOL at Hearns bringing up Marciano again out of nowhere.

First let me tell you all something. I'm a fighter, a great fighter. Untouchable, any person who says lion, an is on a boxing forum. Is insane, any boxer will tell you, after seeing the 2 cats fight, that a full grown male bengal or siberian tiger will come out on top the majority, pretty much everytime.

Secondly a lion has never killed a tigress or tiger on film. A tiger has killed lions on film. Im sure many have seen the prank that was shown, from Gir Forest. But as I said, no boxer would ever side with a lion after seeing a male tiger and male lion
fight.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7557533191907963449&pl=true

As far as the people talking about the collesium, are you nuts. Every real source to every real big cat expert researching will tell you the Tigers didnt just win, they slaughtered lions any time pitted with them. An to the comment about Siberian Tigers, all I can do is laugh. Siberian tigers will crush any cat.

Tigers dominated the collesium and dominated Korean Pit fights.

Actually read the real stuff, the roman times sunquists. Ask the big cat experts. Against big male indian And siberian tigers no lion has a shot.

http://www.geocities.com/kinesisksweden/ig4b.jpg


The tiger is a rare jewel in a treasure chest of truly spectacular Indian wildlife. When the ancient Romans set tiger against lion in the coliseum, the tiger invariably won. In some ways, the tiger is the ultimate predator.
http://www.pbs.org/edens/bhutan/a_tiger.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...vs+lion&pl=true

This isnt a fight at all, hell leopards have been know to kill lions in fights. Lets not get into tigers.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...rd+lion&pl=true

Tigers would win the majority of the time by far not really a contest.

Tiger vs lion videos


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6902311227603109690&q=tiger&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4701009336110724831&q=tigress&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4103817393208209134&q=tigress&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7514014921351757812&q=tigress&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4847100431337511732&q=tigress&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6902311227603109690&q=tigress&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5263553036807695991&q=tiger+vs+lion&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1372882387110365632&q=tiger+vs+lion&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3080386436334376889&q=leopard&pl=true

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/bbe7c0da25Lion-male.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/tigerhistorical0vm.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/tttigerlionplay.jpg



PS YOUVE YET TO SEE A MALE TIGER FIGHT A MALE LION. A GOOD SIZE HEALTHY MALE TIGER, AND BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU DO, MAYBE THEN YOU CAN START ACTING LIKE MEN.


NO MAN WHO IS A GREAT FIGHTER, WILL EVER IN HIS RIGHT MIND, SAY A LION WILL BEAT A TIGER IN A FIGHT.


LIKE I SAID YOUVE YET TO SEE A MALE TIGER FIGHT A MALE LION. LION DOESNT HAVE A SHOT IN HELL.

That last video was a load of rubbish, no way that leopard beat that lion, it was getting tossed about like a rag doll.

liger would ko both of them at the same time in 1/2 a second

taipan good reply bro....your the best ever!!!!tnx alot

What the hell does picking lions over tigers have to do with how well someone fights? That post was ridiculous.

what about the liger

http://www.fahad.com/pics/liger.jpg

First let me tell you all something. I'm a fighter, a great fighter. Untouchable, any person who says lion, an is on a boxing forum. Is insane, any boxer will tell you, after seeing the 2 cats fight, that a full grown male bengal or siberian tiger will come out on top the majority, pretty much everytime.

Secondly a lion has never killed a tigress or tiger on film. A tiger has killed lions on film. Im sure many have seen the prank that was shown, from Gir Forest. But as I said, no boxer would ever side with a lion after seeing a male tiger and male lion
fight.


PS YOUVE YET TO SEE A MALE TIGER FIGHT A MALE LION. A GOOD SIZE HEALTHY MALE TIGER, AND BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU DO, MAYBE THEN YOU CAN START ACTING LIKE MEN.


NO MAN WHO IS A GREAT FIGHTER, WILL EVER IN HIS RIGHT MIND, SAY A LION WILL BEAT A TIGER IN A FIGHT.


LIKE I SAID YOUVE YET TO SEE A MALE TIGER FIGHT A MALE LION. LION DOESNT HAVE A SHOT IN HELL.

What DOES being a boxer have anything to do with knowing who will win a fight between a tiger and lion? I'd say a zoologist would know this better than a boxer. Sorry, but that statement is just plain silly.

Captive animals raised in a zoo and then having little scurmishes is not the same as compared to wild lions fighting wild tigers. Captive Lions introduced back into the wild have been documented as being killed by wild lions or simply never won a fight to inherit a pride of lionesses.

Here's a web page for you to read in regards to predator vs predator.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict4.html


But....Ligers have magical properties...at least that's what Napoleon Dynamite says. ;)

what about the liger

http://www.fahad.com/pics/liger.jpg

What DOES being a boxer have anything to do with knowing who will win a fight between a tiger and lion? I'd say a zoologist would know this better than a boxer. Sorry, but that statement is just plain silly.

Captive animals raised in a zoo and then having little scurmishes is not the same as compared to wild lions fighting wild tigers. Captive Lions introduced back into the wild have been documented as being killed by wild lions or simply never won a fight to inherit a pride of lionesses.

Here's a web page for you to read in regards to predator vs predator.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict4.html


But....Ligers have magical properties...at least that's what Napoleon Dynamite says. ;)


How on earth is that statement silly? The point is as far as fighting skills, noone on earth who values fighting would pick the lion. Its not even close, it's a mismatch. If you think a lion is a "better" fighter, then I don't know what to tell you. WIth out its mane it will die 100% of the time. You say zoologists, yah zoologist would know better. Just about every zoologist in America Picks the tiger. Just about every big cat trainer there is picks the tiger. Yes you made a point saying what about zoologists, Yes what about them? Look into it.
Large Indian And Siberian Tiger Males, No lion on earth stands a chance, big cat trainers will tell you that.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/26702060610.png

You actually post Maxines Lairwebs, that sites a made up joke by maxine, who is heavily biased for the lion. She came to the old afo boards, along time ago, and was humilating and embarrassed beyond reconition. From Nepal Bengal Tiger weights, to everything. She stays to poisioning people now, where people can't really respond. That site is about as credable as anyone making a site from Angel Fire, your site would be more credable if you made one today. Maxine a girl, who flat out made basically everything up on a site, that site is a joke. Maxines whose from New Zeland made the site, and is a complete fool.

How on earth is that statement silly? The point is as far as fighting skills, noone on earth who values fighting would pick the lion. Its not even close, it's a mismatch. If you think a lion is a "better" fighter, then I don't know what to tell you. WIth out its mane it will die 100% of the time. You say zoologists, yah zoologist would know better. Just about every zoologist in America Picks the tiger. Just about every big cat trainer there is picks the tiger. Yes you made a point saying what about zoologists, Yes what about them? Look into it.
Large Indian And Siberian Tiger Males, No lion on earth stands a chance, big cat trainers will tell you that.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/26702060610.png

You actually post Maxines Lairwebs, that sites a made up joke by maxine, who is heavily biased for the lion. She came to the old afo boards, along time ago, and was humilating and embarrassed beyond reconition. From Nepal Bengal Tiger weights, to everything. She stays to poisioning people now, where people can't really respond. That site is about as credable as anyone making a site from Angel Fire, your site would be more credable if you made one today. Maxine a girl, who flat out made basically everything up on a site, that site is a joke. Maxines whose from New Zeland made the site, and is a complete fool.

If you don't believe her site, The Discovery Channel had an hour long debate about which would win, the Lion or Tiger. The zoologists picked the Lion. Lions are used to combat while the Tigers are solitary animals.

Lions have to constantly keep their place in the pride by fighting off male rivals that want to take over the pride. You're talking about an experienced fighting lion against a Tiger that has very little fighting experience with other Tigers.

There is no debate that in Roman History, Lions have more often than not, killed Tigers.

Case closed.

Also, look up Clyde Beatty. This is thought to be a staged fight...but insiders point out it was a real fight and the lion ended killing the larger tiger.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4318948967926803903&q=tiger

If you don't believe her site, The Discovery Channel had an hour long debate about which would win, the Lion or Tiger. The zoologists picked the Lion. Lions are used to combat while the Tigers are solitary animals.

Lions have to constantly keep their place in the pride by fighting off male rivals that want to take over the pride. You're talking about an experienced fighting lion against a Tiger that has very little fighting experience with other Tigers.

There is no debate that in Roman History, Lions have more often than not, killed Tigers.

Case closed.

Also, look up Clyde Beatty. This is thought to be a staged fight...but insiders point out it was a real fight and the lion ended killing the larger tiger.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4318948967926803903&q=tiger


Theres nothing to believe, its a made up site, by a liar, and a story teller. The Discovery channel, Nelson Mendel Isn't a zoologist, and even now he changes his opinion, saying it's to close to call. Every big cat trainer and zoologist will favor the tiger.

The discovery channel picked the lion, for money and marketing purposes. I actually read about that, and them trying to sell the lion to viewers, to improve ther ratings, and that footage of lions was easier to get. That was part of a whole campaign on selling lions to viewers.

When male tigers meet alot of time it means death. An check the cub death rate. No lion pride in the world has as high of a mortality rate as the nepal bengal tiger cubs. WHich average 517 pounds. No lion comes near Nepalean Tigers.

An Roman History all the sources back tigers, its unanymous. An from the sources, it says tigers slaughters lions. These are sources that you cannot possibly match. What sources are you going on? Roman history says when lions matched tigers, lions died. Internet kids and story tellers making up sites, tell us what they like to believe.

http://www.geocities.com/kinesisksweden/ig4b.jpg


The tiger is a rare jewel in a treasure chest of truly spectacular Indian wildlife. When the ancient Romans set tiger against lion in the coliseum, the tiger invariably won. In some ways, the tiger is the ultimate predator.
http://www.pbs.org/edens/bhutan/a_tiger.htm


That's a staged fight. Another bonehead statement by Maxine. All the fights have to be staged. All these fights are staged. "Staged" and "Fixed" are two different things.

An ah thats half the video, and the tigress about kills the larger lion. The lion is much bigger then the lion. The tigress almost kills the lion, if not for the fire hose, she would of.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4919219172705875656&q=big+cage&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6902311227603109690&q=big+cage&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4103817393208209134&q=big+cage&pl=true


Thats a complete lie, the tigress won that fight. An yes its staged, meaning set up to happen, you have to stage the fight. Fixed and staged are different things. It wasn't fixed. An that is a tigress. Much smaller then the lion.

Put a male tiger like this in there, the lion lasts 20 seconds.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/snider_/156mn.jpg

You're giving credit to a geocities site? Are you mad? Anyone can type that up, make a hard copy and say it's a "fact". That's what I call a "red herring". Your using that to attract attention away from the fact that lions will beat a tiger.

And explain exactly how Discovery Channel can increase their ratings by picking a lion? How is this (lion as a winner when most people prefer Tigers, like myself) even relevant to their ratings? They don't have a weekly series about lions, you know. You're grasping at straws.

Lions are born fighters. They have to be since they far more enemies than tigers. That's a fact that can not be refuted.

Oh....and one more thing, those videos....some of those have been edited to make the tigress or tiger come out to look like the winner. No wonder there's so many different versions.

the only evidence we have either way is records of the battles in roman colloseum; tigers rarely won

I heard that a Grizzly smacked a horse in the head and ripped it off!!!



not likely but they can break a mooses neck with one swipe, mooses weigh a tonne

no way could a leopard kill a lion and defiantely not a pride of them as it says in one of taipans sources

i had a hard time watching those videos they were difficult to see but i certainly didn't see a male lion of the mass you would see in the wild and they are smaller now due to hunting of the largest males

There's no evidence of a large male bengal/siberian tiger fighting a large male lion, so the argument is nullified.

As it's been stated, fights between animals that have been raised in captivity do not reflect the results of a wild animal encounter. The reason lions are favored are their manes and tactics they acquire in order to fight off other male lions in order to procreate. A lion raised in captivity would not have learned how to fight against other big cats as a cub, and of course it would be at a disadvantage against the heavier tiger. A wild lion that was brought up learning how to fight is a completely different animal than one raised in the zoo.

And explain to me how a solitary animal that uses stealth would win a confrontation against a veteran of many battles? This is like (to use a lame AD&D reference) a rogue (albeit with great strength) pitted against a warrior class in a straight up conflict where stealth is not an option.

The lion has the armor (the mane) and the skill at arms. He has the superior THAC0 (wow yeah this is getting pretty dorkish pretty fast) and armor class. All the tiger has is strength and size and I just don't see that as being enough.

There we go, Dungeons and Dragons just solved the puzzle.

You're giving credit to a geocities site? Are you mad? Anyone can type that up, make a hard copy and say it's a "fact". That's what I call a "red herring". Your using that to attract attention away from the fact that lions will beat a tiger.


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Oh no no. That's just hosted the picture. Thats scanned from Wild Cat of the World, by Mel And Fiona Sunquists. World Renowned big Cat Experts. This is the best source there is, it was scanned From Wild Cats of the World. This source is the best of the best unmatchable. There now it's hosted by imageshack. By World known big cat experts. The best of the best.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2154/sunquistss3rb.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226779998/104-6242347-4270369?v=glance&n=283155

Also the book "the Roman Times", they say Caspian Tigers beat lions everytime, and where the unmatchable Cat. The book the Roman Times, it's states lions had little success against tigers.

http://www.willamette.edu/~ehodder/lion-tiger_0001.jpg

Here's a documented newspaper article of a tiger killing a lion. An actual event.

The Tiger. Much bigger, much heavyer, much stronger. Simple as that.

That pretty much sums it up.

How do you expect us to read that? :o

http://www.willamette.edu/~ehodder/lion-tiger_0001.jpg

Here's a documented newspaper article of a tiger killing a lion. An actual event.


That was four score and seven years ago, we need something current

Oh no no. That's just hosted the picture. Thats scanned from Wild Cat of the World, by Mel And Fiona Sunquists. World Renowned big Cat Experts. This is the best source there is, it was scanned From Wild Cats of the World. This source is the best of the best unmatchable. There now it's hosted by imageshack. By World known big cat experts. The best of the best.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2154/sunquistss3rb.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226779998/104-6242347-4270369?v=glance&n=283155

Also the book "the Roman Times", they say Caspian Tigers beat lions everytime, and where the unmatchable Cat. The book the Roman Times, it's states lions had little success against tigers.

Please. She's one sidedly biased for tigers. And you still haven't addressed how Discovery Channel will increase their ratings by picking the lion. And the lions had little success against tigers? Based on the lions' surroundings, that is highly unlikely.

And that old newspaper clipping, jeez...not EVERY single battle was won by a lion. That's one incident. What about the Clyde Beatty movie where the lion kills the tiger - which wasn't staged. Jeez. If yer gonna ignore the facts, please don't debate.

Good bye.

Please. She's one sidedly biased for tigers. And you still haven't addressed how Discovery Channel will increase their ratings by picking the lion. And the lions had little success against tigers? Based on the lions' surroundings, that is highly unlikely.

And that old newspaper clipping, jeez...not EVERY single battle was won by a lion. That's one incident. What about the Clyde Beatty movie where the lion kills the tiger - which wasn't staged. Jeez. If yer gonna ignore the facts, please don't debate.

Good bye.


Its well known fact that discovery channel was almost called the Lion vs Tiger channel. On their 20th anniversy they were going to do a Lion vs Tiger mechanical deathmatch build off between American Chopper and Monter Garage, Both the mechanical lion and tiger were said to be the most deadly robots in the world but on the day of the match between the two The Tiger leaked a small amount of oil that stained the pants of the Celebrity guest judge Chuck Norris. He round house kicked the tiger and destory it, and then went after the lion. Since it took two round house kicks to destroy the lion Discovery Channel declared it the winner. And ever since has been biased for the lion.

Its well known fact that discovery channel was almost called the Lion vs Tiger channel. On their 20th anniversy they were going to do a Lion vs Tiger mechanical deathmatch build off between American Chopper and Monter Garage, Both the mechanical lion and tiger were said to be the most deadly robots in the world but on the day of the match between the two The Tiger leaked a small amount of oil that stained the pants of the Celebrity guest judge Chuck Norris. He round house kicked the tiger and destory it, and then went after the lion. Since it took two round house kicks to destroy the lion Discovery Channel declared it the winner. And ever since has been biased for the lion.

The only reason why we exist is because Chuck Norris allows it. One time, he kicked so fast, his foot went back in time and killed John F. Kennedy. It is rumored that Chuck Norris was wearing his tiger skin undies.

Please. She's one sidedly biased for tigers. And you still haven't addressed how Discovery Channel will increase their ratings by picking the lion. And the lions had little success against tigers? Based on the lions' surroundings, that is highly unlikely.

And that old newspaper clipping, jeez...not EVERY single battle was won by a lion. That's one incident. What about the Clyde Beatty movie where the lion kills the tiger - which wasn't staged. Jeez. If yer gonna ignore the facts, please don't debate.

Good bye.

Do you even think when you post? No she's one sided for the lion, because I've debated her on forums. So let me tell you this again, she's a lionfan because I've debated her, she took that video that people uploaded to Movie Maker when people and put it on google and linked the lie to it. The whole things 5 minutes and the tigress wins. When She posted on Forums. Yes she's a lionfan, and obsessed with it.

How will it improve ratings? Very simple get people to like the lion, market it as there top animal. Sell it to the viewers, and as they found out, With Tigers in Africa And the Lion's den. Tiger show ratings killing lion show ratings. They hoped marketing the lion would improve ratings, because that's the animal they wanted to market.


Yes how about that, lions had little success against tigers. Stated by the top sources in the world. An If you asked the big experts, 90% favor the tiger. Even Craig Packer a lion expert, You'll be surprised what he says.

No it's a widely know newspaper article, where the tiger breaks into the male lions cage and kills it. Stated as a source by many, the tigress won the big cage. Lion lost.

The clyde beatty video is the Big Cage, the lion lost. The hose separates them, spraying in her face. That lie by lairsweb has been exposed. Do you understand what movie maker is, there is no death, the tigress is in the process of coming up and crashing through stools chasing the lion, they run to spot, she flips him, gets his face in the death grip. If not for the hose, the lion would of died.


Yes it was staged, do you understand. Maxine is brainless, that statement of the lie she makes out of bs. Is Totally obsurd.

All fights, like the Korean One, have to be staged. All staged is, is staging an animal fight. You saying your going to fight someone, your staging the fight. A pitbull fight is staged to happen. Now if, it's fixed, that's another thing. No the lion flat out lost. Same thing on the movie cheap fast and out of control. Tigress charges through stools, they run around she flips him. Death grip....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4103817393208209134&q=tiger+vs+lion&pl=true

What facts have you shown? What facts? Your the one ignoring facts. What do you expect.

The tiger is bigger, stronger, faster, more agile, the ability to fight on it's hindlegs, 2 times as long canines, longer claws etc.

2 males, who do you thinks, gonna when the majority?

on the discovery channel they did a lion versus a tiger

and the lion won

http://www.tv.com/animal-faceoff/lion-vs.-tiger/episode/321730/summary.html

im in the process of uploading this show i'll post it when its finished

How will it improve ratings? Very simple get people to like the lion, market it as there top animal. Sell it to the viewers, and as they found out, With Tigers in Africa And the Lion's den. Tiger show ratings killing lion show ratings. They hoped marketing the lion would improve ratings, because that's the animal they wanted to market.



Yeah Fedex guy just delivered mine. I got a two for one deal. But will prop send them back they are shitting all over my house.

I better start investing in the LIONS stock. With so much vested interest in it, there seems to be little chance of it ever falling. A real blue chip.

What I'm really wondering is, I have hundreds of shares of ARMDLO but it seems pretty iffy. I mean, I haven't seen many armadillos in cartoons and stuff recently. Hell, I don't even think I've seen a documentary on armadillos in years. Public interest seems to be at an all time low. Do I sell before the value drops or wait and see? And even if it does drop, maybe I should pick up some more shares in anticipation of future growth (eg someone makes a 3D aventure video game with an armadillo protagonist).

What do I do? I need your expert advice Taipan!

I better start investing in the LIONS stock. With so much vested interest in it, there seems to be little chance of it ever falling. A real blue chip.

What I'm really wondering is, I have hundreds of shares of ARMDLO but it seems pretty iffy. I mean, I haven't seen many armadillos in cartoons and stuff recently. Hell, I don't even think I've seen a documentary on armadillos in years. Public interest seems to be at an all time low. Do I sell before the value drops or wait and see? And even if it does drop, maybe I should pick up some more shares in anticipation of future growth (eg someone makes a 3D aventure video game with an armadillo protagonist).

What do I do? I need your expert advice Taipan!


The reason ARMDLO stock hasn't been doing well is the Discovery Channel hasn't done enough to promote it. They are busy trying to sell Lions. Just an insider tip for you Discovery Channel is about to replace Discovery Kids with Discovery Lions. Its going to be like the home shopping channels so they can sell more lions.

Obviously a Lion!
Because it is the king, of the jungle!
And is purley bigger and heavier! :D

It is really no point is trying to reason with some people.If you still can't grasp that tigers are bigger,more powerful and used to killing its prey one on one were as lions hunt in prides then i feel sorry you kids.

Taipan said a lot of nothing.

Lions increasing the ratings? Wow. NBC should have just shown a bunch of lions sipping coffee at a cafe in New York City and call the show "Pride".

I hear it'll do much better than "Friends" according to Taipan's reasoning.

It is really no point is trying to reason with some people.If you still can't grasp that tigers are bigger,more powerful and used to killing its prey one on one were as lions hunt in prides then i feel sorry you kids.

yes tigers do hunt one on one, they hunt smaller prey that cant fight

Male lions do not hunt; occasionally they will help bring down a 1 tonne buffalo but its rare. instead lions only have to eat and defend their pride against mostly other male lions


Male tigers rarely come into contact in the wild and even if they do most fights are asic posturing, they havewnt got cubs and hareems of females to protect

think of it in terms of boxers; would you favour a heavyweight who has fought nothing but strawweights and destroyed them all(TIGER) or one who has fought many other heavyweights and won most of them(Lion)

yes tigers do hunt one on one, they hunt smaller prey that cant fight

Male lions do not hunt; occasionally they will help bring down a 1 tonne buffalo but its rare. instead lions only have to eat and defend their pride against mostly other male lions


Male tigers rarely come into contact in the wild and even if they do most fights are asic posturing, they havewnt got cubs and hareems of females to protect

think of it in terms of boxers; would you favour a heavyweight who has fought nothing but strawweights and destroyed them all(TIGER) or one who has fought many other heavyweights and won most of them(Lion)

Back before the days of cable, I saw on PBS a slow motion footage of a large male lion leaping on the back of a zebra. You could see the cut flesh from its paws as it dug in to bite the neck. Extraordinary footage.

It was one of those documentaries of a young lion without a pride, looking for a pride to take over. It took a long time but this lion, after many many fights, eventually ousted an older lion and took over a pride. Thing is, he too, would have to defend his pride from other male rivals....and attacks from hayenas.

It's tough to be king. :)

Buddy but lions do not hunt one on one period and as you said most male lions dont hunt period.Just as in boxing size is very important.If the question was could a lion who weighed lets say 500 pounds beat a tiger who weighed 500 pounds then it would be up to who was more skilled or powerful right?But i believe siberian tigers get up to 900 or even 1000 pounds which is much larger than a lion so it would be a logical guess that a tiger would win.I know you get what i am saying you seem rational.

Buddy but lions do not hunt one on one period and as you said most male lions dont hunt period.Just as in boxing size is very important.If the question was could a lion who weighed lets say 500 pounds beat a tiger who weighed 500 pounds then it would be up to who was more skilled or powerful right?But i believe siberian tigers get up to 900 or even 1000 pounds which is much larger than a lion so it would be a logical guess that a tiger would win.I know you get what i am saying you seem rational.

Male lions on their own...obviously, must hunt by themselves. It's true, once a male lion takes over a pride, it doesn't do most of the hunting. It protects its territory from other prides that venture in, protects the kill from scavenging and sometimes attacking hayenas, must fight other lions off that is trying to usurp his reign over his pride.

Lions are veteran hunters and fighters. Wild Lion vs Wild Tiger, I will have to choose the Lion.

Buddy but lions do not hunt one on one period and as you said most male lions dont hunt period.Just as in boxing size is very important.If the question was could a lion who weighed lets say 500 pounds beat a tiger who weighed 500 pounds then it would be up to who was more skilled or powerful right?But i believe siberian tigers get up to 900 or even 1000 pounds which is much larger than a lion so it would be a logical guess that a tiger would win.I know you get what i am saying you seem rational.

avergae weight of male siberian tiger is about 550lbs. an average mnale lion is 500lbs (they tend to be smaller now due to overhunting of pride males) tigers have been recorded at over 1000lbs lions at nearly 900
the size difference is not that incredible

I was just checking out a site and it had lions weighing 550 pounds and siberian tigers weighing 500.So you really can't believe some of these old sites on the computer.I was watching a program about tigers before and on average a male siberian tiger is over 700 pounds while most lions weigh about 450.That is alot bigger.And again as i said lions rarely hunt alone.They are used to fighting in groups while tigers always hunt alone.A leopard would even kill a lion if it was the same size.I heard its jaws are the most powerful of any big cat.

a leopard would kill a lion or a tiger if it was the same size it is pound for pound the most powerful big cat

amur tigers are the biggest tigers and they can reach 700lbs although 600 is more normal

Captive tigers and lions are typically heavier than their wild counterparts. Comparing captive fat animals to live fit ones is not a good source of comparison.

probably a lion.

Wow! This is hands down the funniest thing i've read all night. Thanks to all the participants. And seriously, where the hell did that Marciano reference fly in from? aha Awesome!

Wow! This is hands down the funniest thing i've read all night. Thanks to all the participants. And seriously, where the hell did that Marciano reference fly in from? aha Awesome!

How could you miss the Chuck Norris and magical Liger reference? Gosh! ;)

siberian tiger vs grizzly bear animal face off the discovery channel

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/38563/_0siberiantigervsgrizzlybeardi.html

the lion vs tiger one i will post later too

here it is lion vs tiger

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/39611/_0lionvstigerdiscoverychannel..html

I can't download off them sites, who wins?

video evidence says Tiger. Cant be argued much.

video evidence says Tiger. Cant be argued much.

And of other media showing the lion killing a tiger? What about those?

And of other media showing the lion killing a tiger? What about those?


they dont, gnub.

I can't download off them sites, who wins?

if you can direct me to another site which allows you to upload
more than 400 mb i'll happily upload it on that

I have no idea of one, my router sucks so I can't download off sites like megaupload/sendspace etc, my usual downloads are torrents.

Tigers should be called the King of the jungle IMO.Tiger>Lion

siberian tiger vs grizzly bear animal face off the discovery channel

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/38563/_0siberiantigervsgrizzlybeardi.html

the lion vs tiger one i will post later too

here it is lion vs tiger

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/39611/_0lionvstigerdiscoverychannel..html

here they are ^ :cool:

here they are ^ :cool:

And the lion won. Thank you.

Tigers should be called the King of the jungle IMO.Tiger>Lion

yeh they should because lions dont live ion the jungle

lol, the shitty discovery doc didnt even consist of a fight. Pure fantasy.

lol, the shitty discovery doc didnt even consist of a fight. Pure fantasy.


see my earlier post of why discovery channel didnt show the actual fight

see my earlier post of why discovery channel didnt show the actual fight

because there wasnt one, bitch. If a tigress can hold it's own, & even pwn a male lion, wtf do u think a large Siberian male would do?

Even Ntwaidumeila from National Geographic: Eternal Enemies would get pwned by a male tiger.

so stfu noob.

see my earlier post of why discovery channel didnt show the actual fight

Chuck Norris once round house kicked so hard, he ripped the space/time continuum and knocked Amelia Earhart unconscious over the Pacific.


http://usera.imagecave.com/morpho18/chuck.bmp.jpg

because there wasnt one, bitch. If a tigress can hold it's own, & even pwn a male lion, wtf do u think a large Siberian male would do?

Even Ntwaidumeila from National Geographic: Eternal Enemies would get pwned by a male tiger.

so stfu noob.

Listen up LazyTits

mr 16 posts and I'm a noob. you run around the forum telling everyone stfu noob, but if you have only 16 posts are you a noob or an alt who already got banned if you would have seen my posts you would have known I didnt even compare the two. Its pretty clear you don't have enough money to buy a lion from the discovery channel so you got a free tiger from UPN, thats why you are such a tiger nuthugger