Naz deserves a lot more respect just look at his record won 36 (31 ko's) - lost 1 - drawn 0,
Won 3 different world titles.

yes he is arrogant ****y etc but that made him the fighter he was.

He had a Psychological advantage over his opponents he tried to get his opponents beaten before they entered the ring. With things he said in the press conferences making his opponents wait in the ring. He tried to get opponents angry so they would come forward and throw punches which a lot did which suited naz.

He had everything power, speed, a good chin (most knockdowns he was off balance never hurt). He also entertained everyone. He filled stadiums in Britain before his opponents were announced beacause he was a great fighter, but when he came to America people wanted him to lose as soon as he got there, people in america wanted him to fail.

The thing what annoys me is people couldn't wait for him to lose and then start slagging him off, but when he did lose he was No 1 in the world and got beat by a great boxer MAB no shame in that look at MAB record he just outboxed Naz on the night.

People can't just dislike him because he was arrogant people seem to like Mayorga, Judah, Hopkins, Mayweather or is it beacause he was an arrogant british fighter coming to America challenging american fighters in there own backyard such as Kevin Kelley and beating him. You lot slag Hatton, Calzaghe etc off for not fighting in america but you dont give any repsect to british fighters who do come to America Naz, Collins, Lewis etc.

Have you Americans got problems with good British fighters? Especially Naz?

i guess we americans don't like fighters who don't have any heart. lewis was a great champ, collins was a favorite, eubanks another one. but when you talk about naz - NO - he doesn't deserve any respect. 1) he was an arrogant little **** 2) he got STOMPED by MAB, yes, but thats why we don't like him, its the ***** move that he did after he got his ass handed to him. NO HEART. calzaghe - good champ, who knows but until that little girl and his little sister hatton get out of their back yard and cross the pond we will continue to dislike them. look at them, both w/ almost 40 fights on their respective ledgers and haven't taken on anyone yet. hatton, yeah - hes about to step it up, but after 38 fights, **** man, its overdue like a muuuuvafuqqer.

does that answer your question?

well the americans he fougth sure did, they had a problem staying on their feet.
i never liked Naz in fact shouted for MAB when they fought but he is constantly belittled on this site, not out of hatred just out of ignorance.

Poeple think prime hamed was gainst MAB, bull****, he was at his best 2 years prior to that when he was fighting with INgle still in his corner.

Peple should do proper research and watch some of his early featherweight defences before poouring scorn on a talented fighter.

One ****ing idiot even had the balls to call him a protected Euro Bum.

Which is just ignorant beyond belief. I cant even be bothered to argue with suchb a moronic statment that a three belt holder IBF, WBO and WBC is protected and a bum....hmmm how many of todays greats can profess to held three belts at the weight.

not ****ing many.

i guess we americans don't like fighters who don't have any heart. lewis was a great champ, collins was a favorite, eubanks another one. but when you talk about naz - NO - he doesn't deserve any respect. 1) he was an arrogant little **** 2) he got STOMPED by MAB, yes, but thats why we don't like him, its the ***** move that he did after he got his ass handed to him. NO HEART. calzaghe - good champ, who knows but until that little girl and his little sister hatton get out of their back yard and cross the pond we will continue to dislike them. look at them, both w/ almost 40 fights on their respective ledgers and haven't taken on anyone yet. hatton, yeah - hes about to step it up, but after 38 fights, **** man, its overdue like a muuuuvafuqqer.

does that answer your question?

what utter piss, answer question? no you just proved my point..

what utter piss, answer question? no you just proved my point..


Stop getting your British skirt all in a frenzy.. How can the British be taken seriously as sports enthusiasts when their most popular athlete is David Beckham LMFAO!!. If that cat isnt the most overrated athlete in the world I don't know who is. Please dont make the excuse of Hamed without Ingle, the Prince was simply exposed as the fraud that he is.. Late in 97 when he fought Kevin Kelly he just escaped by the skin of his teeth..At that point if you put him in with world class competition I guarantee he wouldnt have gotten up the three times he got knocked down. Oh yeah, why do you folks still have a King and a Queen? No wonder the brave Europeans of the past left to start the "New World" and get away from Euroweenies

For me it didn't help that HBO treated him like he was the second coming. I thought his ring entrances were **** too. Prime Tyson did a mind **** ring walk, the **** Naz did was just a circus. I couldn't tell if I was watching a fight or the WWF. I'm not a hater btw, I just don't really care for that crap.

a prime naz would beat the living **** out of hatton

Soko im here to discuss boxing which seems almost impossinble due tot the amount of filth and prejudiced bollox that spurts out of peoples excuses for mouths like yours, Ive forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know sun*****, Im not here for a slanging match but you need to get your fistic facts straight. Not just base his career on one performance.

in fact im pretty close to f*cking this site off due to c*nt nuggets like you.

[QUOTE=JPW]what utter piss, answer question? no you just proved my point..[/QUOTE

you sensitive *****, thats how the majority of us feel. you gonna cry?

Soko im here to discuss boxing which seems almost impossinble due tot the amount of filth and prejudiced bollox that spurts out of peoples excuses for mouths like yours, Ive forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know sun*****, Im not here for a slanging match but you need to get your fistic facts straight. Not just base his career on one performance.

in fact im pretty close to f*cking this site off due to c*nt nuggets like you.

lol - cunt nuggets - how ****in' clever

Stop getting your British skirt all in a frenzy.. How can the British be taken seriously as sports enthusiasts when their most popular athlete is David Beckham LMFAO!!. If that cat isnt the most overrated athlete in the world I don't know who is. Please dont make the excuse of Hamed without Ingle, the Prince was simply exposed as the fraud that he is.. Late in 97 when he fought Kevin Kelly he just escaped by the skin of his teeth..At that point if you put him in with world class competition I guarantee he wouldnt have gotten up the three times he got knocked down. Oh yeah, why do you folks still have a King and a Queen? No wonder the brave Europeans of the past left to start the "New World" and get away from Euroweenies

i think you will actually find kelly holmes is our most popular sportperson the double olympic champ middle distance runner, followed by the johhny wilkinson world champ rugby player, and when we say world we dont mean some sport that only we play like American football and baseball, how the **** can you call your self world champs at a sport only you play..... :D :D ****ing joke.

Dude I hate to break your 'naz' bubble, but look how he handled the first ass whupping he had ever taken. I think they call it seclusion....Thats right he went back across the pond and avoided the American press etc. etc. etc. etc

BOTTOM LINE IS 'NAZ SQUATS WHEN HE PEE's'

Soko im here to discuss boxing which seems almost impossinble due tot the amount of filth and prejudiced bollox that spurts out of peoples excuses for mouths like yours, Ive forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know sun*****, Im not here for a slanging match but you need to get your fistic facts straight. Not just base his career on one performance.

in fact im pretty close to f*cking this site off due to c*nt nuggets like you.


JPW Im sorry you feel that way.. Most people here don't like Naz or never will.. He is a fraud and a fake..You should put more of your energy into promoting someone like Lennox Lewis. He is much a gentleman, a class act, and intelligent.. Oh also.. did I mention that Lennox Lewis has avenged every loss that he's ever had. Perhaps thats the reason why Naz isnt liked.. HE HAD NO HEART.. He didn't even try to avenge is loss to MAB, he ran.... disgrace

i think you will actually find kelly holmes is our most popular sportperson the double olympic champ middle distance runner, followed by the johhny wilkinson world champ rugby player, and when we say world we dont mean some sport that only we play like American football and baseball, how the **** can you call your self world champs at a sport only you play..... :D :D ****ing joke.




If foreign people are any good at those sports the odds are they will end up in the US to play them. It does sound dumb though, I'll give you that.

Soko im sorry if i offended you but ive had this all day, I didnt like Naz neither but he wasnt a bum nor was he talentless, he held the friggin WBC IBF AND WBO belts in the 90 s for crying out loud.

As for the prick thats just challenged me about sport so you dont do ahtletics then. THats exactly what im talking aobut.

Im here to talk boxing and every thread turns into a pro american/ anti islam anti european whatever slanging match.

Im not anti american so i just dont get some of the hatred spread on this board about other nations.

Im sorry but Im not hear to talk about that ****.

The thing is, some ****yness is understandable. But, down right disrespect is something else IMO. I can't stand guys like that. It's nice to see people broken of their pride.

naz gets no respect here!! all the guys he fought were either old boxers ( who were more like sparring partners) or they were young guys who weren't ready for that level of fighting. he could hit!, there's no doubt about that, but the only time he stepped into the ring with someone that was on the same level as he, he got stomped!!! flat out!! then quit, cause he has no heart. if he was a ture fighter he would have avenged or at least tried to avenge his only loss. but what does he do, he fights another bum, in a very very boring fight, gets booed by his own people and then quits, falls of the radar.........no respect here, dudes a chump!!! hate it if you want but it's the way it is......

your a disgrace to call him a bum or a chump, he held three belts at one time..and has LaMotta's beard..have some respect for him for coming to a foreign country and owning our ranks

your a disgrace to call him a bum or a chump, he held three belts at one time..and has LaMotta's beard..have some respect for him for coming to a foreign country and owning our ranks
he's a chump!! enough said....

I could be wrong, but the most famous athelete in the whole world is David Beckham, so he would be your most famous athelete.

who cares if people don't like Prince Hamed?

most people have pride in their countries...
I was talking to a guy over here in the UK that questioned when I stated that America was a colony of England and they fought a war for their independence... I think it might not be taught wholly over here, but it's all besides the point..

if there are any nations on this earth that are in an alliance and that should get along, it's the US, England, and Israel

I personally don't like European fighters, especially english ones. Fighters like Ricky Hatton, Lennox Lewis, and Scott Harrison make me sick, although I do respect Lewis. But The Prince was simply too cool. He was the coolest fighter since Muhammad Ali, and he had some skill. He was an amazing puncher, had blinding speed, and a good chin. He kept coming in the Barrera fight, and never gave up hope. He was not the greatest fighter of all time, but he was entertaining and exciting. I think people should view him like Gatti, his show was the attraction.

he's easily my favorite featherweight..

the way he would drop down two-three inches before letting off a power shot was unique, while trainers teach conventional /southpaw fighters to do this, most fighters don't take full advantage of it. Naseem would dip down low and come up hard with everything he had! even with punches like jabs, he'd start the punch from like eight feet away from his opponent.. dip a little bit and come forward with all his lower body strength on the jab..a pleasure to watch, he was


edited: I'll always remember the way George Foreman sounded when he saw Naseem's power against Kevin.. he was in awe, 'That was power from Naseem...'

Naz's unorthodox ways were his biggesst asset, & his biggest liability.

well the americans he fougth sure did, they had a problem staying on their feet.
i never liked Naz in fact shouted for MAB when they fought but he is constantly belittled on this site, not out of hatred just out of ignorance.

Poeple think prime hamed was gainst MAB, bull****, he was at his best 2 years prior to that when he was fighting with INgle still in his corner.

Peple should do proper research and watch some of his early featherweight defences before poouring scorn on a talented fighter.

One ****ing idiot even had the balls to call him a protected Euro Bum.

Which is just ignorant beyond belief. I cant even be bothered to argue with suchb a moronic statment that a three belt holder IBF, WBO and WBC is protected and a bum....hmmm how many of todays greats can profess to held three belts at the weight.

not ****ing many.

I just love the way the americans have a go at Naz but he KO'd their top 2 featherweights, 1 of them in their own backyard :)

Naz deserves more respect for his fighting ability but to let Barrera retire him up is lame, unless Naz comes back and does things he will never have any real respect.

Naz deserves more respect for his fighting ability but to let Barrera retire him up is lame, unless Naz comes back and does things he will never have any real respect.

alas, a smart one from across the pond who can sympathize as to what we americans feel about naz.

(we'll just pretend for this once that you're not a raving hatton fan, and i'm not a raving cotto fan)

I personally don't like European fighters, especially english ones. Fighters like Ricky Hatton, Lennox Lewis, and Scott Harrison make me sick, although I do respect Lewis. But The Prince was simply too cool. He was the coolest fighter since Muhammad Ali, and he had some skill. He was an amazing puncher, had blinding speed, and a good chin. He kept coming in the Barrera fight, and never gave up hope. He was not the greatest fighter of all time, but he was entertaining and exciting. I think people should view him like Gatti, his show was the attraction.

:rolleyes:

Not that UK hate bull**** again Asian, i dont undersatnd the issue but i assume its the "world revolves around the US" thing a lot of people have.

alas, a smart one from across the pond who can sympathize as to what we americans feel about naz.

(we'll just pretend for this once that you're not a raving hatton fan, and i'm not a raving cotto fan)

LOL :D

Naz had some skills but he took that defeat like a *****, getting beat in boxing isnt too bad but letting Barrera rough him up made me lose a lot of my respect

he was a decent fighter with a lot of flash. He proved what kind of man he was when MAB whooped him. He deserves little if any respect! :mad:

LOL :D

Naz had some skills but he took that defeat like a *****, getting beat in boxing isnt too bad but letting Barrera rough him up made me lose a lot of my respect

unlike a lot of people on here, UK hate is not my thing. lewis was a great champ, eubanks a awesome one and tito trinidad is my favorite (j/k) ... and nigel to me was THE man. its just being taken for a straight *****, like how it happened to naz, then to fall off the face of the earth. his **** talk was unparalleled, so it was just that his bark was louder than his bite and yeah, not because he fronted islam, not because he was from the UK, it was basically becasue he got *****ed by a mexican.

simple as that. had that happened to a puerto rican, he'd be just as hated.

he was a decent fighter with a lot of flash. He proved what kind of man he was when MAB whooped him. He deserves little if any respect! :mad:

I was pretty pissed when i watched Barrera use rough tactic on Naz, but as the fight went on i ended up being more pissed at Naz for letting him do it!!

Naz didnt exactly man up and give him some back, remember Naz was seen to be the stronger guy with a bigger punch before the fight.

Naz has to prove to the world that he is not a fluke...otherwise, he will always be remembered as such.

Naz has to prove to the world that he is not a fluke...otherwise, he will always be remembered as such.

I question your intelligence.

Naseem Hamed no matter what any americans our Muslim haters say. Was one of the best bantamweight, super-Bantamweight, and at Featherweight one of the greatest of all time. He has never been given credit for becoming the undisputed Featherweight champion. Tom Johnson was IBF Champion, Israel Vasquez WBA Featherweight chammpion (who later fought Juan Lacazno (a lightweight who fought for the world title last year), Cesar Soto WBC champion.

They all talk about Hopkins holding four titles. If it was not for politics he would have all the titles at the same time.

everybody loses and I would rather him sit out for a couple of years o retire but he will come back may never be the same a bit like Roy Jones. But one thing he can say that not a lot of fighters can HE WAS KNOCKED KNOCKED OUT just ask the greatest fighters of our time

Lennox Lewis (twice)
Roy Jones (twice)
Oscar De La Hoya (body shot)
Terry Norris
Azumah Nelson (yes he got stopped by Sanchez) he even ducked Hamed

I can go on but am sure u understand facts are facts

Thank You Rudy. :)

Naseem Hamed no matter what any americans our Muslim haters say. Was one of the best bantamweight, super-Bantamweight, and at Featherweight one of the greatest of all time. He has never been given credit for becoming the undisputed Featherweight champion. Tom Johnson was IBF Champion, Israel Vasquez WBA Featherweight chammpion (who later fought Juan Lacazno (a lightweight who fought for the world title last year), Cesar Soto WBC champion.

They all talk about Hopkins holding four titles. If it was not for politics he would have all the titles at the same time.

everybody loses and I would rather him sit out for a couple of years o retire but he will come back may never be the same a bit like Roy Jones. But one thing he can say that not a lot of fighters can HE WAS KNOCKED KNOCKED OUT just ask the greatest fighters of our time

Lennox Lewis (twice)
Roy Jones (twice)
Oscar De La Hoya (body shot)
Terry Norris
Azumah Nelson (yes he got stopped by Sanchez) he even ducked Hamed

I can go on but am sure u understand facts are facts

tried to +k rudy for this but I have given out too much reputation in the last 24 hours ;-)

I was pretty pissed when i watched Barrera use rough tactic on Naz, but as the fight went on i ended up being more pissed at Naz for letting him do it!!


Barrera only did that because he was acting like a frustrated little boy. Naseem landed a HUGE left hook in a semi-clinch that pissed Marco off right before he did this.

The question lies in where and how you give out respect.

I tend to give more respect to someone who is respectful of others, who is a sportsman, with good conduct, who isn't arrogant or pompous, and who treats others good.

His attitude may have been in question, which might make some (like me) respect him less, right or wrong.

but as far as ring respect, I doubt anyone can challenge him being a great boxer, at least not with any solid proof.

:D VK also hasn't been KO'd in any professional or ameture kickboxing or boxing :D

Hamed was a coward...the only world class fighter he fought in Barrera, he got his ass whipped and suddenly disappeared.Looks like he cant back up his big mouth with heart...i sure hope he comes back and faces the PACMAN...He will surely get an ass beating double of what MAB did to him!!

I just love the way the americans have a go at Naz but he KO'd their top 2 featherweights, 1 of them in their own backyard :)
Exactly what top two featherweights are you referring to?

Exactly what top two featherweights are you referring to?

I'd guess he means Tom Johnson & Kelley, which was true at the time.

Who the hell do you think Kevin Kelley was? He beat an undefeated Morales.

Gotta love uneducated opinions.


Kevin Kelly LOST to Erik Morales, in 2000.
That was the only time they fought.

Kelly was NOT in his prime when Hamed beat him.
He had been thrashed by Alejandro Gonzalez, needed a one-punch KO to save him from a TKO loss to gainer, & had struggled horribly with journeymen in between the Gonzalez & Hamed fights.

I was pretty pissed when i watched Barrera use rough tactic on Naz, but as the fight went on i ended up being more pissed at Naz for letting him do it!!

Naz didnt exactly man up and give him some back, remember Naz was seen to be the stronger guy with a bigger punch before the fight.

He got what was coming to him when Barrera rammed him against the corner and made him his *****. In my opinion most people felt that way.