I have no doubts. Wlad will be an excellent champion -- skillful, powerful, and vulnerable at the same.

I heard he is fighting Byrd next, that should interesting.

I have no doubts. Wlad will be an excellent champion -- skillful, powerful, and vulnerable at the same.

anybody who has been here a while knows you are bias towards the klitschkos, wlad has a glass psyche which is even worse than a glass jaw, he just cant cut it at the world class level, he has no balls man, he lets his big brother avenge all his losses, he is a godam bum

nautilus , funny threads belongs to the lounge .

Wlad is a ***** but I think that he will win the title from Byrd.

God I truly hope Byrd finds a way to beat him.

Wlad is a ***** but I think that he will win the title from Byrd.

God I truly hope Byrd finds a way to beat him.

It seems like Byrd finds a way to beat everyone.

It seems like Byrd finds a way to beat everyone.

Yeah but he really got his ass handed to him by Wlad the first time. But we can't forget that this is a different Wlad now, so anything is possible.

I have no doubts. Wlad will be an excellent champion -- skillful, powerful, and vulnerable at the same.


Sorry never gonna happen.

I dont like Wlad
but he did beat, Byrd already.
so unless byrd pulls somethign out of his ass
Wlad is gonna be a champ again,
although i dont see him defending it for a long time.

It seems like Byrd finds a way to beat everyone.

Except for Wlad, Golota, and Ike.

Except for Wlad, Golota, and Ike.
You took the words out of my mouth. He-He.
I would laugh my ass off when Wlad wins.
Because if he wont the haters will probably fry this forum with hate threads.

You took the words out of my mouth. He-He.
I would laugh my ass off when Wlad wins.
Because if he wont the haters will probably fry this forum with hate threads.


....Yes they will and I will enjoy that very much. When it gets close to the Byrd fight those haters are gonna be so nervous. Byrd at this point in time is the perfect opponent for Wlad. He has nothing to hurt him with, isn't nearly as mobile as he was before, and Wlad dislikes him for **** he talked about the klitschko's. Wlad is gonna knock his ass out, regain his confidence and become a force in the heavies again. At least that's the way I'm praying it will play out. :)

....Yes they will and I will enjoy that very much. When it gets close to the Byrd fight those haters are gonna be so nervous. Byrd at this point in time is the perfect opponent for Wlad. He has nothing to hurt him with, isn't nearly as mobile as he was before, and Wlad dislikes him for **** he talked about the klitschko's. Wlad is gonna knock his ass out, regain his confidence and become a force in the heavies again. At least that's the way I'm praying it will play out. :)
Amen Brother

While I do believe about 98% chance of him winning the IBF belt from Byrd. He better get his **** straightened out quick, cause his first defense he will lose otherwise. I say WK too far toasted to be a champ realy long, but at least him and Big V will fullfill there dream for a couplremonths. LOL

anybody who has been here a while knows you are bias towards the klitschkos, wlad has a glass psyche which is even worse than a glass jaw, he just cant cut it at the world class level, he has no balls man, he lets his big brother avenge all his losses, he is a godam bum


a bum with a whole lot of potential at least.

anybody who has been here a while knows you are bias towards the klitschkos, wlad has a glass psyche which is even worse than a glass jaw, he just cant cut it at the world class level, he has no balls man, he lets his big brother avenge all his losses, he is a godam bum



i couldn't have said it better, ruiz beats him now, by KO ...even Holy might be able to decision him now

i couldn't have said it better, ruiz beats him now, by KO ...even Holy might be able to decision him now


I dont know about that one. Holyfield can't even make a decision these days.

sure he does. Do I write out check for bastard a or bastard b today? Hmmm lifes decisions? :confused:

wouldent that be nice and wlad will beat byrd just as long as hes in good shape

wouldent that be nice and wlad will beat byrd just as long as hes in good shape

That's the key. IMO Wlad should come into this one below 240 lbs.

Yeah, i wonder how good a match this'll be. I think Byrd is supposed to be pretty good right? I mean, they his stats all decked out in Fight Night 2004.

Yes finaly their dream will come true.

By this year the klitschko`s will rule.

I just cant see wlad lose to byrd after their first match.

Wlad only has to take it cool,pace himself and stick his jab out and he will be champion.

Agree i tink he should drop som weight, he should be like 235-240 not 245-250.

Yes finaly their dream will come true.

By this year the klitschko`s will rule.

I just cant see wlad lose to byrd after their first match.

Wlad only has to take it cool,pace himself and stick his jab out and he will be champion.

Agree i tink he should drop som weight, he should be like 235-240 not 245-250.
sounds easy, but what all wladimirs losses were from easy fights. but you're right, i can't see bird winning.

nothing bird does is risky. he's such a tedious fighter to watch. sorry, i just can't stand his style.

i couldn't have said it better, ruiz beats him now, by KO ...even Holy might be able to decision him now

and Toney get's KO'd by WK...

Byrd will win this fight. At least I hope he does, I want to see Byrd vs Toney eventually.

It's all in Wladimir's hands... it's all up to him.

well, I guess if DK want's it a certain way bad enough, he can win even with a drugged WK..
:D :p

I want to see Byrd vs Toney eventually.

they can fight in the loser's bracket of the HW tournament!!
:D

they can fight in the loser's bracket of the HW tournament!!
:D






Probably true :rolleyes:

I think that would be an awesome feud, the two of them.
I'd like to see a 3 set of fights (if competitive) between Toney and Byrd :)

anybody who has been here a while knows you are bias towards the klitschkos, wlad has a glass psyche which is even worse than a glass jaw, he just cant cut it at the world class level, he has no balls man, he lets his big brother avenge all his losses, he is a godam bum
I am just curious to ask everyone who questions Wlad's pshyche. The guy has three losses and 46 victory's and everyone questions his psychological frame of mind, but Tyson, Ruiz, Rahman and Toney all have four or more losses on their resume but no one questions their physche. That is proof of the hatred people have for the Klitschko brothers.

I am just curious to ask everyone who questions Wlad's pshyche. The guy has three losses and 46 victory's and everyone questions his psychological frame of mind, but Tyson, Ruiz, Rahman and Toney all have four or more losses on their resume but no one questions their physche. That is proof of the hatred people have for the Klitschko brothers.


You are rediculous...None of these fighters outside of Tyson can blame their losses on being mentally weak or having a ****ed up mindset. Ruiz was beaten because he's not very good anyway and he faced superior competition, Toney lost because he gets lazy and lets himself get out of shape, etc etc. Wlads psychological frame of mind these days is completely out of wack. If you are going to sit here and say that Wlad has the three losses because he fought superior competition then you are crazy. His resume reads nowhere near that of Tyson or Toney. Brewster and Sanders really shouldnt be on Wlads level. It's quite clear to see that Wlad is mentally weak whereas Vitali has his **** together.

You are rediculous...None of these fighters outside of Tyson can blame their losses on being mentally weak or having a ****ed up mindset. Ruiz was beaten because he's not very good anyway and he faced superior competition, Toney lost because he gets lazy and lets himself get out of shape, etc etc. Wlads psychological frame of mind these days is completely out of wack. If you are going to sit here and say that Wlad has the three losses because he fought superior competition then you are crazy. His resume reads nowhere near that of Tyson or Toney. Brewster and Sanders really shouldnt be on Wlads level. It's quite clear to see that Wlad is mentally weak whereas Vitali has his **** together.
Anyone of the fighters I mentioned gets hit by the lefts that Sanders hit Wlad with would go to sleep. As a matter of fact someone like Ruiz would be knocked unconscious as would Toney. Wlad needs a trainer that believes in his skill and style and he'll be OK. Steward does not believe in Wlad's style and that is why he is trying to change it.

You are rediculous...None of these fighters outside of Tyson can blame their losses on being mentally weak or having a ****ed up mindset. Ruiz was beaten because he's not very good anyway and he faced superior competition, Toney lost because he gets lazy and lets himself get out of shape, etc etc. Wlads psychological frame of mind these days is completely out of wack. If you are going to sit here and say that Wlad has the three losses because he fought superior competition then you are crazy. His resume reads nowhere near that of Tyson or Toney. Brewster and Sanders really shouldnt be on Wlads level. It's quite clear to see that Wlad is mentally weak whereas Vitali has his **** together.


Sanders could get anyone in trouble if he lands his punch at least twice in a row, and Brewster is not a bum by any means. I think Brewster will defeat Golota.

Tyson was beaten by bums too, except Lewis of course; and Ruiz was beaten by some guy who got KOed by some LHWs twice afterwards; Rahman was also KOed by not so a prominent fighter.

You are rediculous...None of these fighters outside of Tyson can blame their losses on being mentally weak or having a ****ed up mindset.

It's quite clear to see that Wlad is mentally weak whereas Vitali has his **** together.

None of WK's losses were due to him being mentally weak.
But the poor fella is probably that way right now, due to some of those losses, but still after the fact..

i favor wlad over byrd in their next fight

the obvious reason
he already beat byrd before
and in a one sided fight

second
its not like byrd has been getting any better himself
most thought he lost to Oquendo
most thought he lost to Golota
and he got KD by McCline

The guy is like a big Zab Judah, we keep expecting him to dominate because with his skills he should. But he just can't seem to get his **** together for some reason.

Wlad is CLEARLY damaged goods now. A fighter who is as skilled and powerful as Wlad should NOT out himself in a situation where a garbage fighter like TOS KD's him. If any of you are going to tell me that Lamon friggin Brewster is better than Wladdy than we can end this conversation now. The fact is that Wlad, for all of his great offensive skills and power, has a feeble heart, has unreliable stamina, has a poor chin, and has a very unstable mind right now. What else can you say for his losses besides excuses excuses. And no I don't think that Sanders left would put any of the fighters above to sleep. I believe that all four of the above fighters could eat a Sanders left and continue to go on. Now multiple shots might be a different story...but most of those guys wouldn't put themselves in the way of that harm...especially Toney and Huggy Bear.

None of WK's losses were due to him being mentally weak.
But the poor fella is probably that way right now, due to some of those losses, but still after the fact..


Well Pno for me, mentally weak includes overpunching to the point of exhaustion. It includes being KD'ed by a wimp who was destroyed by Joe Mesi of all people. It includes not coming back harder than ever after suffering a loss or two.

The guy is like a big Zab Judah, we keep expecting him to dominate because with his skills he should. But he just can't seem to get his **** together for some reason.


Absolutely.

I don't think that Wlad has earned this shot at the title. The only upside would be that we would have 2 champs not wholly owned by King. The downside is that all the belts would be partially owned by King.

As to the fight, if they haven't done some serious conditioning work, Wlad doesn't stand a chance. Byrd is too slick and will move and wear Wlad out. Ad to the fct that Byrd seems to be sitting down on his punches a little more and you could have Byrd KO Wlad. I never thought I would here "Byrd could KO Wlad", let alone be the one to say it.
If Wlad is somehow in better condition for this, then he beats Byrd easily, again. Just don't let him get his socks from Pac's camp;)

I have no doubts. Wlad will be an excellent champion -- skillful, powerful, and vulnerable at the same.


I agree with you 100% Nautilus. Wlad will be holding at least one belt, but probably the two his brother doesnt by the end of this year. And anyone who discounts the foul play that took place with the fight against Brewster is just deluding themselves.

anybody who has been here a while knows you are bias towards the klitschkos, wlad has a glass psyche which is even worse than a glass jaw, he just cant cut it at the world class level, he has no balls man, he lets his big brother avenge all his losses, he is a godam bum


Oh look, more wisdom from Sweeney. You just love bashing the Klitschkos, dont you? Sad thing is, on his worst day, Wlad wouldl kill you with one punch. Go cry in your juice, you assclown.

[QUOTE=Warrior Spirit]Wlad is a ***** but I think that he will win the title from Byrd.

Wlad is a *****? Say it to his face, and we'll see who the ***** is, wont we?

Yes, Wlad won the first match but it won't be the first time a boxer wins the first fight and loses the rematch. Look for Byrd to totally dominate him. If Lamon Brewster (please :rolleyes: ) can beat him then, Why can't Byrd? Bird wins by TKO in 8. Wlad's mentality has been damaged by his last two loses, especially against Brewster. You are only as good as your last fight.

Also, when he fought Byrd the first time he was 215 pounds, look at him now, hovering around 260. A disgrace!

Anyone of the fighters I mentioned gets hit by the lefts that Sanders hit Wlad with would go to sleep. As a matter of fact someone like Ruiz would be knocked unconscious as would Toney. Wlad needs a trainer that believes in his skill and style and he'll be OK. Steward does not believe in Wlad's style and that is why he is trying to change it.



Exactly right, brother. Sanders would put anyone to sleep, and Wlad didnt lose the Brewster fight.

Yes, Wlad won the first match but it won't be the first time a boxer wins the first fight and loses the rematch. Look for Byrd to totally dominate him. If Lamont Brewster (please :rolleyes: ) can beat him then, Why can't Byrd? Bird wins by TKO in 8. Wlad's mentality has been damaged by his last two loses, especially against Brewster. You are only as good as your last fight.

Also, when he fought Byrd the first time he was 215 pounds, look at him now, hovering around 260. A disgrace!


Sorry to correct you, but Lamon didnt beat him. You saw the fight right? Wlad was drugged. Deal with it.

Sorry to correct you, but Lamon didnt beat him. You saw the fight right? Wlad was drugged. Deal with it.

Was he really drugged? I thought Wladamir knocked him down, then ended up getting knocked out? Is that correct?

Yes, Wlad won the first match but it won't be the first time a boxer wins the first fight and loses the rematch. Look for Byrd to totally dominate him. If Lamon Brewster (please :rolleyes: ) can beat him then, Why can't Byrd? Bird wins by TKO in 8. Wlad's mentality has been damaged by his last two loses, especially against Brewster. You are only as good as your last fight.

Also, when he fought Byrd the first time he was 215 pounds, look at him now, hovering around 260. A disgrace!

His last fight he won, maybe not the best way, but he won.

about 'if LB beat him, why can't CB? simple, becauase DK didn't have options on WK in the LB fight..

and Brewster is not a bum by any means. I think Brewster will defeat Golota.

Are you for real? Brewster maybe the worst "champion" in the history of the sport.

Sorry to correct you, but Lamon didnt beat him. You saw the fight right? Wlad was drugged. Deal with it.

Your a ****ing retard, Wlad lost cause hes a ***** with no balls. Who has the WBO belt and who doesn't?

Show me the evidence that Wlad was drugged.

Are you for real? Brewster maybe the worst "champion" in the history of the sport.




Bruce Seldon might have something to say about that :D

i couldn't have said it better, ruiz beats him now, by KO ...even Holy might be able to decision him now

Don't be so hard on Toney.

Sorry to correct you, but Lamon didnt beat him. You saw the fight right? Wlad was drugged. Deal with it.
Of course, you have evidence of this, right? If Wlad were drugged the WBO would've declared the bout a NC and Wlad would've retained his title. The fact is that his conditioning sucked and he is a sorry excuse for a HW fighter. Deal with it.

Yes, Wlad won the first match but it won't be the first time a boxer wins the first fight and loses the rematch. Look for Byrd to totally dominate him. If Lamon Brewster (please :rolleyes: ) can beat him then, Why can't Byrd? Bird wins by TKO in 8. Wlad's mentality has been damaged by his last two loses, especially against Brewster. You are only as good as your last fight.

Also, when he fought Byrd the first time he was 215 pounds, look at him now, hovering around 260. A disgrace!

correct me if im wrong but wlad useally weighs aroun 245.

And hasnt been that as 215 since the olympics in 1996

ye leff ur rite

also i wudn't be surprised if wlad pulls of the upset, all he has to do is use his jab around the ring and hell win
shud be an ez fite for him

Wlad was never a world champion to begin with....

I don't give a **** about whatever BOGUS belt he held !

That aside...he'll never be as successful as he once was.
He's toast.

ye leff ur rite

also i wudn't be surprised if wlad pulls of the upset, all he has to do is use his jab around the ring and hell win
shud be an ez fite for him

uhu!

But i wouldnt call it upset if wlad beats byrd, anything else would be an upset.


Be quiet jabbs.

uhu!

But i wouldnt call it upset if wlad beats byrd, anything else would be an upset.


Be quiet jabbs.


Of course....when you're wrong you don't want to hear the truth.
I understand.

Of course....when you're wrong you don't want to hear the truth.
I understand.

No, as allways i dont like bs

Your a ****ing retard, Wlad lost cause hes a ***** with no balls. Who has the WBO belt and who doesn't?

Show me the evidence that Wlad was drugged.


You know as well as I do that boxing is as corrupt a sport at they come. Dont even try to get all defensive and pretend otherwise. You would have to be a retard not to see the obvious. You're just *****-ass hater with no respect for true talent. Wlad would make you prom queen.

You know as well as I do that boxing is as corrupt a sport at they come. Dont even try to get all defensive and pretend otherwise. You would have to be a retard not to see the obvious. You're just *****-ass hater with no respect for true talent. Wlad would make you prom queen.


your a jackass man, seriously, he was knocked the **** out by a left hook, he got knocked the **** out 2 times before, talent is nothing without heart, and guess what? your boy doesnt have any! stop crying you klitoris loving ****** ass homo

your a jackass man, seriously, he was knocked the **** out by a left hook, he got knocked the **** out 2 times before, talent is nothing without heart, and guess what? your boy doesnt have any! stop crying you klitoris loving ****** ass homo

if you really think he was KO'd by Brewster, then you musta missed something.. like the ref said 'i never saw anything like that in all my years' say he tired out, say he got drugged, say it wasn't his night, but PLEASE don't say he got KO'd by Brewster!! :D

I love that last bit... a "****** ass homo" that loves clitoris...
LOL sounds like a canundrum..

your a jackass man, seriously, he was knocked the **** out by a left hook, he got knocked the **** out 2 times before, talent is nothing without heart, and guess what? your boy doesnt have any! stop crying you klitoris loving ****** ass homo


And when Wlad holds two belts by end of year, what will your excuse be? You sir, are pathetic in a way most can scarcely imagine.

Gran.....


It's cool that you defend your boy. It's fine that you'll engage in an insult-fest in order to do so.
But, the "say that to Wlad's face" routine is something a grade-schooler would resort to...

Oliver Stone is in production on his latest movie. The Wlad Klitschko Story.

I think it was Colonel Mustard in the dining room with the candlestick who "drugged" Wlad.

Will wlad ever be a champion again??? ya never know....

who woulda thought lamon brewster would be champ after losing to etienne and shufford? or ruiz would be a 3 time champ after losing tua, nicholson and RJ... or bruce seldon would be champ after getting KTFO by mccall and bowe....

Will wlad ever be a champion again??? ya never know....

who woulda thought lamon brewster would be champ after losing to etienne and shufford? or ruiz would be a 3 time champ after losing tua, nicholson and RJ... or bruce seldon would be champ after getting KTFO by mccall and bowe....


Brewster, Wlad, & Ruiz have never been champions.

Saying they are, gives strength to the sorry-ass sanctioning bodies.

Wlad will not win a title again.
Even in a weak division.

Wlad will not win a title again.
Even in a weak division.

...especially if Byrd gets his way and fights Toney.

And when Wlad holds two belts by end of year, what will your excuse be? You sir, are pathetic in a way most can scarcely imagine.


you blind idiot, he got ****ed up 3 godam times man, jesus, how many times must he be get kayoed for you to realize he doesnt have what it takes. what are you 10 or something, cant you see what the rest of us do? he's a bum, he will never get a belt, he cant take a punch! stop with the wordplay and face reality, dick head

If Wlad does get this fight with Byrd, he will be the IBF champ for sure! Anybody who honestly thinks Wlad could lose to Byrd is a ****in idiot and has NO business commenting on boxing-PERIOD! As far as Wlad beating someone else, or winning another title, that may be up for debate.

But what makes you say this if he got winded against lamon brewster?
Do you think Byrd will just stand there and let him tee off on him? Sure Byrd doesnt posses the pop to keep Wlad off of him but he has the mobility to make him miss and tire out.

But what makes you say this if he got winded against lamon brewster?
Do you think Byrd will just stand there and let him tee off on him? Sure Byrd doesnt posses the pop to keep Wlad off of him but he has the mobility to make him miss and tire out.

If you saw the first fight, Wlad had no problem landing punches on Byrd for 12 rounds! Wlad fainting again is the only chance Byrd has. I doubt that will ever happen again because the Klitschko's will be ready for it from now on.

If Wlad does get this fight with Byrd, he will be the IBF champ for sure! Anybody who honestly thinks Wlad could lose to Byrd is a ****in idiot and has NO business commenting on boxing-PERIOD! As far as Wlad beating someone else, or winning another title, that may be up for debate.

wlads washed up and byrd has been in good fights lately and will beat wlad.i have no reason to think otherwise. sanders didnt deserve the title to begin with and he was about to retire before he exposed wlad for the fighter he is.wlad lost to lamon brewster :D this shows where his career is headed

I just saw the first Wlad/Bird fight. Bird did not look impressive to me at all. Maybe he's a different fight now, but i still don't think he'll be able to defeat Klitschoko.

I just saw the first Wlad/Bird fight. Bird did not look impressive to me at all. Maybe he's a different fight now, but i still don't think he'll be able to defeat Klitschoko.

but thats the less confident, fighting in other fighters backyard byrd. today he is female looking,slick fighting in antlantic city or vegas byrd. ;) iam tired and just rambling now, what can i say :confused:

sanders didnt deserve the title to begin with

This just in no one better than Sanders wanted to fight Wlad at the time.

I don't like Wladimir Klitschko. He have a crystal chin and this is a serious limit.

As far as I'm concerned, Wlad would still kick Bryd's ass if they fought tomorrow. Byrd's lack of power would just allow Wlad to pick his shots and not blow his load in a few rounds.

You know as well as I do that boxing is as corrupt a sport at they come. Dont even try to get all defensive and pretend otherwise. You would have to be a retard not to see the obvious. You're just *****-ass hater with no respect for true talent. Wlad would make you prom queen.

Keep living in your ****ing dreamworld with your boyfriend Wlad you little homo.

Jesus Christ!!! This is why I hate the Klit brothers, its because of theior ignornat fans like this that think their gods or something!

Oliver Stone is in production on his latest movie. The Wlad Klitschko Story.

I think it was Colonel Mustard in the dining room with the candlestick who "drugged" Wlad.

LOL, good one. :D