View Full Version : Would B-Hop done well Against Hagler?


Manny_P
04-14-2006, 06:59 AM
I think despite of Hop's excellent defense, Hagler would have ended him before the final bell. Prime vs Prime BTW. What do you guys think?

JDizzle79
04-14-2006, 07:15 AM
I think all you fools with black hankies on your face are too hard-core so therefore I'm afraid to post on your threads...I'm scared
:rolleyes:

Manny_P
04-14-2006, 07:16 AM
I think all you fools with black hankies on your face are too hard-core so therefore I'm afraid to post on your threads...I'm scared
:rolleyes:

you just did. Now talk boxing.

JDizzle79
04-14-2006, 07:17 AM
the answer is yes than...

King Koyle
04-14-2006, 09:50 AM
I have great respect for B-Hop,and I rank him as a top
five or ten MW of all-time.But I tend to put Hagler in
a different league.As great as Hopkins defense was,I
agree that hagler would have eventually broken through
it.

Azteca
04-14-2006, 05:55 PM
of course he would of had a chance. people often forget about hopkins physical dimensions. he was a 6'1'' 157 pound middleweight. hagler stood at approximately 5'9'' but had extraordinary reach, especially for his size.

hopkins would of done well, but ultimately he would of been stopped. it would be much easier to compare the two if he fought tough perennial challengers like hagler did (mugabi, minter, caveman lee, duran, hearns etc.), but he didn't.

mokele
04-14-2006, 07:00 PM
If you take the Hopkins of the mid 1990s, he would have made a great fight out of it, outboxing Hagler from the outside. Hagler wasn't always that impressive against skilled boxers the 1st time that he fought them. He lost to Willie Monroe, Bobby "Boogaloo" Watts, and gave up a draw to Sugar Ray Seales earlier in his career, but destroyed all 3 of those guys in rematches. That's what I think would have happened against Hopkins, a close decision win for Hopkins in their 1st fight and then a knockout win for Hagler in the rematch. Hopkins was better than Boogaloo Watts, Seales or Monroe, and even in the rematch would have been tough. Hagler was a ruthless finisher though, and would have broken through on Bernard in the later rounds in the rematch.

ricecrispi
04-14-2006, 07:07 PM
That's very perceptive to notice Hagler lost the first fights and to slick boxers. Most peple believe Hagler is this invincible machine when he ldropped some close decisions. In most of those fights Hagler started slow and tried to find his range and lost the too many early rounds. Once Hagler found his range he pretty much controls the fight and was why he won his rematchs.

Hagler actually could lose a decision to Hopkins if Hopkins played it safed and boxed and used his reach. Also depends on which Hopkins shows up. Is it the old and crafty Hopkins, the one that attacked the body relentlessly, or the one awesome performance he had against Tito trinidad

Skydog
04-14-2006, 11:04 PM
I think B-Hop would have a chance, but I can't see him pulling out a win against a relentless machine like Hagler. Hagler can control from a range with a deadly straight right (remember how bad Taylor's jab hurt Hopkins in their first fight), or he could be a ferocious predator and destroy Hopkins.

Hagler UD 15, or late TKO.

Azteca
04-14-2006, 11:26 PM
no way hopkins even survives in hagler's era or even in the 70's. i'd like to see hopkins face the tough contenders that hagler fought, i doubt he'd survive.

Heckler
04-15-2006, 12:03 AM
Hagler couldn't track down sugar ray, would the same thing happen?

Azteca
04-15-2006, 12:05 AM
what relevance is that? hopkins is a poor mans marvin hagler.

oldgringo
04-15-2006, 12:25 AM
what relevance is that? hopkins is a poor mans marvin hagler.


Wow...Marvin Hagler is one of my favorite fighters ever and I rank him as the greatest middleweight ever as well...but you're speaking in extremes.

Hopkins would have given ANY middleweight throughout history a serious run for their money. In his prime he was quick, strong, crafty, well schooled offensively/defensively, etc. Hopkins is about as tough as they come as well.

I'd take Hagler by close decision, but he'd have problems finding his mark early on. I can see Hopkins quick straight right/sneak right hand being a huge weapon against the southpaw Hagler. Both guys fought really well on the inside. Ultimately I think Haglers will would shine through and he'd take more of the late rounds, landing better punches down the stretch of the fight.

It would really be a pretty even fight though.