Ricky has fought alot of bums. His first opponent was a guy named Kid McAuley. His record? 8-48-3. Kostya's first opponent? Darrell Hiles, 7-1-0.

here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
David Thompson 7-20-3..
Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)

When Hatton and Kostya get in the ring, Kostya will naturally have an experience advantage. This is because Kostya didn't knit pick his opponents, and went up against whoever challenged him.

While I agree that Tszyu has seen better opposition than Hatton I must remind you that records don't tell the whole story. A good example of this is Emanuel Augustus (A.K.A. Emanuel Burton) who is 30-24-6 but I would give a chance at beating anyone at 140 if he comes in prepared (as he's said he will from now on since he stopped smoking weed). He is a journeyman but a very tough opponent. Ask Alex Trujillo and Courtney Burton about that!

here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
David Thompson 7-20-3..
Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)

3 out of the 4 top guys on that list are the type of guys that all the young prospects get tested against because they don't win much but at the same time they don't get beat easily either, very tricky and they go the distance on most occasions unless the guy has something so ain't that bad really.

Ricky has fought alot of bums. His first opponent was a guy named Kid McAuley. His record? 8-48-3. Kostya's first opponent? Darrell Hiles, 7-1-0.

here's some more of Ricky's opposition.
Karl Taylor 14-36-3..
Brian Coleman 17-72-7..
David Thompson 7-20-3..
Mark Ramsey 15-25-5..
Pascal Montulet 9-19-4..
Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5.. (ricky fought this guy when he was 29-0)

When Hatton and Kostya get in the ring, Kostya will naturally have an experience advantage. This is because Kostya didn't knit pick his opponents, and went up against whoever challenged him.Zoo's resume is better but it's not as great as you try to make it sound.

3 out of the 4 top guys on that list are the type of guys that all the young prospects get tested against because they don't win much but at the same time they don't get beat easily either, very tricky and they go the distance on most occasions unless the guy has something so ain't that bad really.

Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.

Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.

Don't get too bogged down with stats, it's obvious Tszyu has faced better opponents but he took the fast track to the top whereas Hatton has been a slow burner so I don't really read too much into that it's all about styles on the night ;)

Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.
Yes I see what you mean but Im speaking specificly about Zoo and his resume is way overated

Don't get too bogged down with stats, it's obvious Tszyu has faced better opponents but he took the fast track to the top whereas Hatton has been a slow burner so I don't really read too much into that it's all about styles on the night ;)

I always figured Hatton was the one on the fast track, since he began his pro career in '97. (Kostya '92)

Obviously Tszyu has fought the much better opposition. I mean Judah, Mitchell (2ce), JCC etc. Hatton hasn't even come close. I still give him a chance on the 5th of June though!

You also need to appreciate that Hatton turned pro at 17 or 18 whilst Zoo stayed in the amatures well into his twentys, so Hatton did alot more of his learning in the pros.

I always figured Hatton was the one on the fast track, since he began his pro career in '97. (Kostya '92)

Yeah but Tszyu fought for the IBF title after about 13 or 14 fights so he's been on the fast track compared to just about anybody :cool:

Its obvious Tszyu has fought and beaten better fighters than Hatton, hell Tszyu had a ten year head start!!

Tszyu turned pro late so he was able to progess faster, Hatton turned pro early when he still had a lot of learning still to do.

Tszyu's had 120+ more amateur fights than Hatton, that experience is a huge advantage especially since Tszyu's Pro&Am style is the same.

In future you should check Hatton's record from when he turned 21, thats the age boys become men.

this question seem pointoless im a big big hatton fan i belive he will gaive zoo a run for his money but it is competly obvious that zoo has faced better oppostionby a long stretch


oh and hattons first oppenent kid macualey i know him hes a great fella and know his stuff about boxing so i think its a little disrespectful to call him a bum he was quite a good amature.plus any one who steps into a boxing get my respect
and is no bum it takes balls

(IM A BOXER LOLOL)

Yeah but Tszyu fought for the IBF title after about 13 or 14 fights so he's been on the fast track compared to just about anybody :cool:

Hatton's 11th fight was for a British title and his 13th was for the WBO title. :D

Hatton's 11th fight was for a British title and his 13th was for the WBO title. :D

Maybe a WBO intercontinental title :cool: but I think you've had your answer.

Its obvious Tszyu has fought and beaten better fighters than Hatton, hell Tszyu had a ten year head start!!

Tszyu turned pro late so he was able to progess faster, Hatton turned pro early when he still had a lot of learning still to do.

Tszyu's had 120+ more amateur fights than Hatton, that experience is a huge advantage especially since Tszyu's Pro&Am style is the same.

In future you should check Hatton's record from when he turned 21, thats the age boys become men.

that's my exact thoughts, however i do think that hatton went after the bottom of the barrel fighters to make his record look good


barryboy, accept da fact that your boy based his career off of beating up lower calibr fighters. you are acting like the IC WBO belt is worthless.

This has to be the dumbest topic ever. I didnt read the replies, but if anyone dared to say Hatton its obvious that your lips on his "bum" is the reason why you cant see reality from fiction.

this question seem pointoless im a big big hatton fan i belive he will gaive zoo a run for his money but it is competly obvious that zoo has faced better oppostionby a long stretch


oh and hattons first oppenent kid macualey i know him hes a great fella and know his stuff about boxing so i think its a little disrespectful to call him a bum he was quite a good amature.plus any one who steps into a boxing get my respect
and is no bum it takes balls

(IM A BOXER LOLOL)

I agree

I think the term bum should be used with fighters who ***** out of fights, but far to many people call fighters bums when they have never seen them. I prefer to make comments about the records if havent seen them fight.

that's my exact thoughts, however i do think that hatton went after the bottom of the barrel fighters to make his record look good


barryboy, accept da fact that your boy based his career off of beating up lower calibr fighters. you are acting like the IC WBO belt is worthless.

I dont blame Hatton, He fought the fighters Warren put in front of him, Warrens well known for giving his talented fighters the easiest possible start.

This has to be the dumbest topic ever. I didnt read the replies, but if anyone dared to say Hatton its obvious that your lips on his "bum" is the reason why you cant see reality from fiction.

my iq dropped reading this. it is not dumb, the person posting this is.

age and ring experience doesnt always make it a no-brainer. look at mike tyson for example you ****hill

this question seem pointoless im a big big hatton fan i belive he will gaive zoo a run for his money but it is competly obvious that zoo has faced better oppostionby a long stretch


oh and hattons first oppenent kid macualey i know him hes a great fella and know his stuff about boxing so i think its a little disrespectful to call him a bum he was quite a good amature.plus any one who steps into a boxing get my respect
and is no bum it takes balls

(IM A BOXER LOLOL)

oh, well if you wanna respect guys that dont respect themselves enough to be in the sport to win, to accumulate 45+ losses without even having 10 wins, your respect isnt worthy now is it

Why does it say Clueless Dickhead next to that guy's name?

is that self- appointed or how does the titling work

Why does it say Clueless Dickhead next to that guy's name?

is that self- appointed or how does the titling work

mods here title you if they don't agree with your opinions, and of course title themselves "LargeDick" etc etc. very mature as you can see.

Why does it say Clueless Dickhead next to that guy's name?

is that self- appointed or how does the titling work

You can change it yourself for about 50,000 points or someone else can change yours for about 3mil. You can get discounts on the price depending on your member status.

Just go to the store link

my iq dropped reading this. it is not dumb, the person posting this is.

age and ring experience doesnt always make it a no-brainer. look at mike tyson for example you ****hill

the topic was comparing opponents. I think Hatton's best opponent was Vince Phillips, the guy who beat Zoo. That being said Hatton has mostly fought guys that wouldnt cut it on ESPN FRiday Night Fights. guys that never had a chance, all the heart in the world doesnt make you a good fighter. Hattons has fought characters that arent on anyone's radar. I've seen him fight in MEN Arena, and what you think of Hatton is different than what you think of his opponents but Kostya has been on the P4P List for a long time and its because of who and how he beats his opponents. Hatton could go 100-0 but if he kept fighting the kind of C, D boxers, he would never recognized for any lists. Well... i thought that the 2 sentences I wrote before would get the point across but some i guess you just have to dumb down things for the "special" people. You need a dick b4 someone you get called a dickehead and your ***** ***** azz needs to stick to high heels and come out of the closet already because your posts are outing you, maricon.

My thread has become a flamefest ;-( obviously it wasn't such a good topic after all.

I never knew monkeys could speak

you being from N'Arlens......i dont know if thats a racial comment but anyway, get Hatton's dick out your mouth before you speak

Calm down dude, having clueless dickhead under your name is still better than it saying "banned"

get Hatton's dick out your mouth before you speak

I think you mean, Kostya's

he was hating on hatton :cool:

Boxing is a show and tell sport, and until Hatton shows, I don't respect him. I have nothing against England or nothing, but I don't have any respect for any of the current English fighters. Until they step off of Sky Sports and onto HBO, they could knock out their mothers for all I care. Kostya Tszyu is a much better fighter than Hatton, Hatton is garbage.

Boxing is a show and tell sport, and until Hatton shows, I don't respect him. I have nothing against England or nothing, but I don't have any respect for any of the current English fighters. Until they step off of Sky Sports and onto HBO, they could knock out their mothers for all I care. Kostya Tszyu is a much better fighter than Hatton, Hatton is garbage.

How can he be garbage if he hasnt had chance to show you yet? he couldnt have beaten his other opponents any better.

yeah but a bunch of his opponents have put a whupping on him. He has been bloodied up and knocked down but dudes ive never heard of before or after but though he gets the jon done in the end many of those cats would get there azz handed to them by real topo fighters like Zoo, Cotto, May and Gatti

is the kid overhyped? I think so...

I wouldn't be a bit suprised if Kostya stops him 30 seconds into round one.

How can he be garbage if he hasnt had chance to show you yet? he couldnt have beaten his other opponents any better.
The fact that hes having life and death fights with guys who I've never heard of.

yeah but a bunch of his opponents have put a whupping on him. He has been bloodied up and knocked down but dudes ive never heard of before or after but though he gets the jon done in the end many of those cats would get there azz handed to them by real topo fighters like Zoo, Cotto, May and Gatti

is the kid overhyped? I think so...

Just because you have never heard of some of Hatton opponents doesnt mean their no good.

Hatton was KD'd against Magee(very good fighter) and thats the only time i remember him lossing a round! even then he was winning the round until the flash knock down. Hattons never been in trouble and the cuts are a skin problem, the career is perfect up til now.

Hatton just needs a step up in class, which is exactly the same as all the other top 140lb fighters(except Tszyu).

There's no way Cotto, Mayweather or Gatti could finish Hatton opponents better than him, only Tszyu has the power to do that.

The fact that hes having life and death fights with guys who I've never heard of.

Just give him a fair chance, we will all have the right to judge him after the Tszyu fight.

I wouldn't be a bit suprised if Kostya stops him 30 seconds into round one.

I wouldnt be suprised if Tszyu stopped Vitali in 30secs :D

barryboy, accept da fact that your boy based his career off of beating up lower calibr fighters. you are acting like the IC WBO belt is worthless.

:confused: :rolleyes: Hope your kidding on the last part and as far as Hatton's opponents go, when did you see me say different to what you've said? I agree to an extent, all I discussed was those few early guys, didn't say anything about the rest of his career so don't jump the gun ;) Magee, Phillips, Tackie & Oliveira are all solid fighters but Phillips aside a level below Tszyu so it's all guess work as to how he'll handle the jump in class, but imo he'll do pretty good against Tszyu who needs room to get that big right hand in so if Hatton sticks to the inside and tries to negate that it will be interesting to see what happens then.

Just because you have never heard of some of Hatton opponents doesnt mean their no good.

Hatton was KD'd against Magee(very good fighter) and thats the only time i remember him lossing a round! even then he was winning the round until the flash knock down. Hattons never been in trouble and the cuts are a skin problem, the career is perfect up til now.

Hatton just needs a step up in class, which is exactly the same as all the other top 140lb fighters(except Tszyu).

There's no way Cotto, Mayweather or Gatti could finish Hatton opponents better than him, only Tszyu has the power to do that.


I agree about HAtton being impressive against the opponents that he faced, but I don't agree that Mayweather and Cotto wouldn't **** on those same opponents like Hatton did. I'd actually go so far as to say they would beat them in more impressive fashion.

Kostya has a total of 33 fights, and Hatton a total of 38.

Kostya's opponents have a total of 118 losses.
Hatton's opponents have a total of 353 losses.

sure, Hatton has five more fights, but clearly you see what I mean.


.....Yeah those numbers are hard to dispute.

This isn't even up for debate. Jake Rodriguez was a tough, experienced titlist. Tszyu fought him and KO'd him in 6 in like his 14th fight. His pro debut was against a guy who was 7-1. Tszyu's competition is FAR superior.

Kostya Of course but

Hatton has fougth some good ones too:
Tony Pep 42-7-1
A.N.Rios 35-2-0
Ray Oliveira 47-9-2

but there is no competition against:

Sharmba Mitchell 55-3-0
Julip Cesar Chavez 104-4-2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 43-1-1
Oktay Urkal 28-0-0

I agree about HAtton being impressive against the opponents that he faced, but I don't agree that Mayweather and Cotto wouldn't **** on those same opponents like Hatton did. I'd actually go so far as to say they would beat them in more impressive fashion.

I depends on how you rate fighters, Hatton destroyed the fighters he's been in with by giving them a beat down, you might rather watch Cotto or Mayweather working the jab more but IMO i just dont think its possible to do a better job regardless of the styles you like.

I think they would give his opponents a beating but no better than Hatton did, maybe the same but not better.

my lil sister fought tougher competition than hatton

Can everyone forget about Hatton early pro career, please!!

Hatton turned pro at 18, just a kid! He should have fought easy opponents at that stage, Kostya was a seasoned fighter(200+ am fights) by the time he turned pro!!

There is no doubt Tszyu has faced better fighters than Hatton but some of the stats i've read are meaningless.

I'd much rather everyone rate his pro career from the age of 21, when he was a man :cool:

lol I'm just messing

Kostya Of course but

Hatton has fougth some good ones too:
Tony Pep 42-7-1
A.N.Rios 35-2-0
Ray Oliveira 47-9-2

but there is no competition against:

Sharmba Mitchell 55-3-0
Julip Cesar Chavez 104-4-2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 43-1-1
Oktay Urkal 28-0-0

Not to mention Zab Judah, Diobelys Hurtado, and Jake Rodriguez.

I'll never forget what Zab did that night when he tried to get up..

Zoo's resume is better but it's not as great as you try to make it sound.
tszyu has a better resume than mayweather. they're my two favourite fighters today besides tito trinidad, but i think tszyu has slayed some mighty oppponents

hatton hasn't done much. he's a promising fighter, but that's all. and i wouldn't back him against tszyu.

therealdunagragadonagraggonadam or whatever ur called all i was say is dat it takes bottel to get in da ring and if ya dont even know the guy then who are you or who ever it was that called him a bum to decide weather he is or not. ppl use that tearm to loosley and all i was sayin is dat i dont like it

KT has fought more world class fighters than hatton, this is going to be hatton's first real test against a real live fighter. vince phillips is the only guy on hattons resume that has fought on the world level. when people pull out guys records and say "well he fought this guy with a record of 42-7-blah blah blah" your just looking at numbers, you have to see who that guy fought, and who their opponents fought, all the way down the line. and after looking at the records of hatton opponents and who they fought vs KT's opponents and who they fought, you'll see that hatton is way out classed.......... hate it if you want but thats the truth.

Vince really went downhill.

He got beat up by some kickboxer..didn't exactly set a good example for boxers

tszyu has a better resume than mayweather. they're my two favourite fighters today besides tito trinidad, but i think tszyu has slayed some mighty oppponents
You are insane if you think that Zoo has a better resume then Floyd

Kostya has fought some 16 championship fights and united the 3 major belts. Het has to fight most of the top contenders to do this.
And as LuKahnLi already pointed out tszyu fought Experienced Jake Rodriguez in his 14th fight for the IBF Light Welterweight Title.

Ricky Hatton has not won any (major) titles (The WBU title does not mean a thing). So he can handpick his opponents (the "has beens" that where falling apart, or the nonos with great records).

You are insane if you think that Zoo has a better resume then Floyd

Floyd fought this guy when he was 8-0.. Jesus Chavez, 0-15..http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004761.

as for their resume's, lets take the top 8 opponents each has faced

you have Tszyu..
Sharmba Mitchell 55-3-0
Julio Cesar Chavez 104-4-2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 43-1-1
Oktay Urkal 28-0-0
Zab Judah 27-0-0
James Leija 43-5-2
Rafael Ruelas 52-3-0
Angel Hernandez 40-1-2 =392 wins

and then PBF.
Jose LuisCastillo 45-4
Jesus Chavez 35-1
Diego Corrales 33-0
Genaro Hernandez 38-1-1
Gregorio Vargas 40-6-1
Carlos Gerena 34-2-0
Phillip N'dou 31-1-0
Victor Sosa 35-2-2 =291 wins

Don't get too bogged down with stats, it's obvious Tszyu has faced better opponents but he took the fast track to the top whereas Hatton has been a slow burner so I don't really read too much into that it's all about styles on the night ;)
Absolutely, right on.

Yes I see what you mean but Im speaking specificly about Zoo and his resume is way overated
No. You're not right. Yes, Chavez and Gonzalez were past their best, Chavez more so than Gonzalez. Judah, and Mitchell weren't. And Kostya more or less ruined Judah in an upset. He has not fought anyone with a losing record in twelve years. That was in his second pro fight. The weakest opposition since then was probably Calvin Grove. He got destroyed in a round. The guy fights at a very high level, doesn't take tune up fights and still has only gone the distance in two out of his last eighteen fights. He has a hell of a record.

No. You're not right. Yes, Chavez and Gonzalez were past their best, Chavez more so than Gonzalez. Judah, and Mitchell weren't. And Kostya more or less ruined Judah in an upset. He has not fought anyone with a losing record in twelve years. That was in his second pro fight. The weakest opposition since then was probably Calvin Grove. He got destroyed in a round. The guy fights at a very high level, doesn't take tune up fights and still has only gone the distance in two out of his last eighteen fights. He has a hell of a record.
Bull ****. He has 2 good wins and they were against the extremely overated Mitchell and Zab who hasnt beaten anyone

Floyd fought this guy when he was 8-0.. Jesus Chavez, 0-15..http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004761.

as for their resume's, lets take the top 8 opponents each has faced

you have Tszyu..
Sharmba Mitchell 55-3-0
Julio Cesar Chavez 104-4-2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 43-1-1
Oktay Urkal 28-0-0
Zab Judah 27-0-0
James Leija 43-5-2
Rafael Ruelas 52-3-0
Angel Hernandez 40-1-2 =392 wins

and then PBF.
Jose LuisCastillo 45-4
Jesus Chavez 35-1
Diego Corrales 33-0
Genaro Hernandez 38-1-1
Gregorio Vargas 40-6-1
Carlos Gerena 34-2-0
Phillip N'dou 31-1-0
Victor Sosa 35-2-2 =291 wins
This is so flawed and you know it. Anybody can have a good record but who did they beat and how old were they when you beat them and how much past there prime were they when you beat them

kostya complied an amateur record of 259 wins 11 losses. won the world championships in sydney (1991) and came 3rd in Moscow. he also won in 1990 at the goodwill games in seatle, at the european championships in athens (1989) and Gothenburg (1991). He won the soviet championships in 1989, 1990 and 1991, and came second in 1988...and the list goes on

that's only his amateur record. he still currently holds a title, having boxed since the age of 9. He trains harder than most (probably all pro fighters) and has an incredible boxing brain.

don't get me wrong, i follow mayweather closely and i love his style. but tszyu has such a good record that he can't be overrated. in fact he is unbelievably underrated.

kostya complied an amateur record of 259 wins 11 losses. won the world championships in sydney (1991) and came 3rd in Moscow. he also won in 1990 at the goodwill games in seatle, at the european championships in athens (1989) and Gothenburg (1991). He won the soviet championships in 1989, 1990 and 1991, and came second in 1988...and the list goes on

that's only his amateur record. he still currently holds a title, having boxed since the age of 9. He trains harder than most (probably all pro fighters) and has an incredible boxing brain.

don't get me wrong, i follow mayweather closely and i love his style. but tszyu has such a good record that he can't be overrated. in fact he is unbelievably underrated.
Your speaking about his amature record and how good you think he is but the fact of the matter is he hasnt faced hardly any good fighters and he never moved up where the real comp was.

alright, i had hoped i could convert you using only tszyu's amateur record but evidently it has not worked and i need to try further to convince you

alright, i had hoped i could convert you using only tszyu's amateur record but evidently it has not worked and i need to try further to convince you
I already know about his amateur career. He had one of the best in history but this is the pros now

you do not think that tszyu has fought the best in the junior-welters throughout his entire career? he has fought former champions like jake rodriguez, roger mayweather, jan bergman, phillips, grove, ruelas, hurtado, gonzales, chavez, mitchell and judah.

tszyu's main goal has been to dominate the junior welters, and to be regarded as the best in the division of all time. it takes two to make a deal. and as far as i'm concerned, sweet pea, dlh, etc all had their chances to stick around and prove something against tszyu but never did.

you do not think that tszyu has fought the best in the junior-welters throughout his entire career? he has fought former champions like jake rodriguez, roger mayweather, jan bergman, phillips, grove, ruelas, hurtado, gonzales, chavez, mitchell and judah.

tszyu's main goal has been to dominate the junior welters, and to be regarded as the best in the division of all time. it takes two to make a deal. and as far as i'm concerned, sweet pea, dlh, etc all had their chances to stick around and prove something against tszyu but never did.
Come on now, Oscar and Sweet Pea had the name and the fame. Nobody even cared too much about Zoo then. He fought the best in the division but the division was so weak. Those guys you named were not good when he fought them except for Mitchell and Zab and name one good fighter who they have beaten. He also couldve been moved up and faced Oscar, Sweet Pea, Mosley, Tito, Forrest, Mayorga, and Margarito

i think that jan bergman was an all round faster fighter than zab judah, his jabs were lightning quick and his hooks "kicked like a mule". Roger mayweather, Floyd's uncle and mentor was no bum either.

to be quite honest with you, i don't rate mitchell or judah up there as his best opposition.

they're just the biggest names that were around then.

i think that jan bergman was an all round faster fighter than zab judah, his jabs were lightning quick and his hooks "kicked like a mule". Roger mayweather, Floyd's uncle and mentor was no bum either.
Who is Jan Bergman and Roger was old and had double digit losses

to be quite honest with you, i don't rate mitchell or judah up there as his best opposition.

they're just the biggest names that were around then.
You seem like a pretty cool guy thought so were going to just have to agree to disagree

i am a pretty cool guy. yeah. but i agree with you less than you agree with disagreeing with me...oh forget it.

i am a pretty cool guy. yeah. but i agree with you less than you agree with disagreeing with me...oh forget it.
Zoo is a great fighter and I take nothing from him. He is definatly in my top 5 #4# and might be in my top 3

choice.

i can't wait for a tszyu-mayweather show down.

to be quite honest with you, i don't rate mitchell or judah up there as his best opposition.

they're just the biggest names that were around then.

name a better opponent that would go in those slots, rather than mitchell or judah.

diobelys hurtado

This is so flawed and you know it. Anybody can have a good record but who did they beat and how old were they when you beat them and how much past there prime were they when you beat them

you can think that, but if I was betting on a fight, these are the numbers I'd want to see.

the numbers never lie.

hurtado fought sweat pea for the WBC welterweight title in 1997. hurtado floored whitaker twice and outboxed him for 10 rounds until whitaker came back stopped him with only a round left.

hurtado fought sweat pea for the WBC welterweight title in 1997. hurtado floored whitaker twice and outboxed him for 10 rounds until whitaker came back stopped him with only a round left.

I would say you are right about Hurtado being better than Judah for the list, but Hurtado was TKO'd in the 2nd round vs Vivian Harris

i rate him and judah about even, hurt maybe a tad more experienced, but weaker chin

yeah, hurtado was tko'd in 2, but 4 years after tszyu showed how. :)

you think mitchell is better than judah?

oh hell no. Judah reminds me of hatton, he has also hand picked some opponents.

edited: they need to make it so there's no 'picking' your opponents. You fight who is ranked next to you in order to go up. this way there will be less Prince Henry's defiling our sport.

vince phillips is the only guy on hattons resume that has fought on the world level.

meh vince philips

why the hell did he do that **** with K2 he really ****ed over the boxing community as a whole.

OMG definately Kosta has faced better oposition.
The fight will be a good one but Kosta willbe too much for Hatton and win by late tko.

Hey Slipx nice gif! Julian Jackson ko-ing Herol Graham, right?:

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Hey Slipx nice gif! Julian Jackson ko-ing Herol Graham, right?:

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Yeah. JJ will always be remembered for his pure power.

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